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Title: Ruck problems
Post by: one-eyed on April 04, 2007, 06:59:05 PM
Some glaring ruck stats from Sunday's game  :-\

Total Hitouts: 12 - 36
CB hitouts: 5 - 20
TI hitouts: 2 - 9
BU hithouts: 5 - 7

CB - centre bounce
TI - throw in
BU - ball ups

Just while were are on stats we had 25 handling errors (fumbles and dropped marks) as well. Equally worst for round 1. Plus just 53 to Carlton's 80 tackles.

http://www.prowess.com.au/pro-stats/reports/team_round_leaders.pdf
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: Stephanie on April 04, 2007, 07:04:30 PM
Plus just 53 to Carlton's 80 tackles.

We need to make our tackles stick, perhaps they should get the Storm boys in again to show them how it's done.
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: Bulluss on April 04, 2007, 07:12:38 PM
Not sure if Knoble was contracted for this season, but we have been better off giving him the stuff and picking up someone like Keating from Brisbane.

I know he was also injury prone but atleast we know he could play well in the ruck.

I am sure there was also a number of other rucks we could have looked at. I am disappointed that we havent drafted another ruck yet, as i dont think they have much hope for Angus and i know he was very close to getting the chop last year.

Knoble will surely be gone at years end unless he can really turn it around and that only leaves Simmo as a genuine ruck.

Patto tries hard but i think he is more suited up forward.

Maybe we need to get Razor in there, it may be his chance to shine.
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: mightytiges on April 04, 2007, 09:47:05 PM
Staff was on his last legs and made the right decision to retire but we didn't go out and find someone to replace him.
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: Gordon Bennett on April 05, 2007, 09:24:58 AM
Staff was on his last legs and made the right decision to retire but we didn't go out and find someone to replace him.
Imagine the furore if we'd gone out and got Cameron Cloke, the guy who killed us on sunday. The words "dud" and "hack" would've been used a hundred times at least.
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: letsgetiton! on April 05, 2007, 10:29:18 AM
cloke is a joke and his tap work was so predictable, just shows how dumb our players and coaces are, esp the captain. how mant times did cloke tap the ball behind him str8 to stephens
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: torch on April 05, 2007, 11:51:26 AM

why couldn't we just promote Angus ???

give him a shot !
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: mightytiges on April 05, 2007, 01:09:36 PM

why couldn't we just promote Angus ???

give him a shot !

Another Tiger would have to go onto the long-term injury list for us to promote Gus. Maybe Knobel might be given his cronic ankle problems. Still Gus is along way from being ready to play AFL. 
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: Gordon Bennett on April 05, 2007, 04:52:39 PM

why couldn't we just promote Angus ???

give him a shot !
I think it will be a case of "No gus, no glory" for quite a while yet.
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: mightytiges on April 05, 2007, 05:16:18 PM

why couldn't we just promote Angus ???

give him a shot !
I think it will be a case of "No gus, no glory" for quite a while yet.

That's a shocker GB  lol
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: letsgetiton! on April 05, 2007, 05:21:09 PM

why couldn't we just promote Angus ???

give him a shot !

Another Tiger would have to go onto the long-term injury list for us to promote Gus. Maybe Knobel might be given his cronic ankle problems. Still Gus is along way from being ready to play AFL. 

put knobs on teh long term injury list
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: DallasCrane on April 05, 2007, 09:20:35 PM
I think it will be a case of "No gus, no glory" for quite a while yet.

 :D
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: Ramps on April 06, 2007, 01:01:22 PM
Whats the worry guys, Kruezer or Bellchambers will be in Richmond colors by late November lol.
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 06, 2007, 01:16:01 PM
Still Gus is along way from being ready to play AFL. 

Will get a better idea on Sunday where Gus is at. He is named 1st Ruck for Coburg.

ANd to put it into persepective just a little - Sunday will be Gus Graham's 2 senior VFL game (yep folks 2nd) - that's the main reason I don't think we should be rushing with him - he has a lot to learn
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: torch on April 06, 2007, 09:57:41 PM

still ... put Knoble on long-term list and give Angus a shot !
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: mightytiges on April 07, 2007, 06:52:24 PM
Hurry back Simmo  :pray. Plough said Simmo and Browny are a chance next week but will be definitely right in a fortnight.

Polak was fairly good in the circumstances but Patto struggled big time in the first half. I still don't know what Patto saw instead of 3 free Swans out on the opposite wing  ??? lol.
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: bluey_21 on April 07, 2007, 07:00:44 PM
Hurry back Simmo  :pray.

That's an understatement if I ever saw one  :lol

We need Simmo back ASAP
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: one-eyed on April 10, 2007, 04:05:37 AM
Pretty amazing how many clearances we got against the Swans considering how much we got pumped in the hitouts.

Total hitouts: 18-51       Total clearances: 33-34
CB hitouts:  7-12           CB clearances:   8-13
BU hitouts:  4-22           BU clearances:   13-8
TI hitouts:   7-17           TI clearances:    12-8

CB = centre bounce
BU = ball up
TI = throw in

http://www.prowess.com.au/pro-stats/reports/team_round_leaders.pdf
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: julzqld on April 10, 2007, 08:34:44 AM
They said on the tv that Jolly/Everitt had around 5000 hitouts compared to Polak/Patto's 100+ (can't remember exact numbers but we were totally outdone).
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: Gordon Bennett on April 10, 2007, 11:11:28 AM
Pretty amazing how many clearances we got against the Swans considering how much we got pumped in the hitouts.

Total hitouts: 18-51       Total clearances: 33-34
CB hitouts:  7-12           CB clearances:   8-13
BU hitouts:  4-22           BU clearances:   13-8
TI hitouts:   7-17           TI clearances:    12-8

CB = centre bounce
BU = ball up
TI = throw in

http://www.prowess.com.au/pro-stats/reports/team_round_leaders.pdf
Tuck got 8 clearances, but only 2 were effective
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 10, 2007, 03:11:34 PM
Pretty amazing how many clearances we got against the Swans considering how much we got pumped in the hitouts.

Total hitouts: 18-51       Total clearances: 33-34
CB hitouts:  7-12           CB clearances:   8-13
BU hitouts:  4-22           BU clearances:   13-8
TI hitouts:   7-17           TI clearances:    12-8

CB = centre bounce
BU = ball up
TI = throw in

http://www.prowess.com.au/pro-stats/reports/team_round_leaders.pdf
Tuck got 8 clearances, but only 2 were effective

Got to say not great surpise in that stat Gordon :-\

It's just another take on the quality -v- quantity argument I suppose

Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: julzqld on April 10, 2007, 03:13:13 PM
No ruck relief for Tigers against 'Pies
Tuesday Apr 10 14:33 AEST
There is no immediate ruck respite for Richmond, who will be without their best two ruckmen for another AFL round.

Coach Terry Wallace said the Tigers did not want to rush Troy Simmonds back into the fray too quickly, which means he will likely miss Friday night's round three game against Collingwood at the MCG.

Simmonds underwent ankle surgery during the pre-season but has resumed full training.

Fellow big man Trent Knobel is also set to miss another game because of ankle troubles, as he will undergo an arthroscopy in the next two days.

The Tigers badly missed a strong ruck option in Saturday's loss to Sydney, where Peter Everitt and Darren Jolly dominated the hit outs.

Forward Nathan Brown also faces another week at least on the sidelines as he continues to recover from soreness in the leg he broke two years ago.


İAAP 2007

 :banghead :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: letsgetiton! on April 10, 2007, 03:25:12 PM
julz, would you like my shoulder???
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: julzqld on April 10, 2007, 03:32:39 PM
Is it big enough?  The shoulder, I mean.
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: letsgetiton! on April 10, 2007, 04:43:09 PM
im sure you will find it just the right size for you! the shoulders that is!


what else may you me thinking :D
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: julzqld on April 10, 2007, 10:33:11 PM
Prefer Simmo's shoulder.
Title: Re: Ruck problems
Post by: letsgetiton! on April 11, 2007, 07:07:49 AM
Prefer Simmo's shoulder.

damn! :'( :'( :'(