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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: letsgetiton! on April 15, 2007, 11:08:48 AM
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many many ppl suporters and journos laid the boot into wayne campbell
campbo is/was 1000 times a better player leader and captain than sugar will ever be, i dont care how many premiership medals teh crows gave him.
sugar is getting it easy from many and campbo copped plenty of sh it
why cant he just stand down and give newman the gig
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Aren't we just repeating what we did with Cambo?! Finding a single scapegoat when our mediocrity seems to be a deeper problem within the whole club or at least the footy department. If it takes the captain to play well for the rest to play well then that doesn't say much for the mentality of our players. I don't see the Carlton players chucking it in because Lance can't get a kick. Where's the pride and self-belief in your own effort and performance and wanting to do the team things?
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Aren't we just repeating what we did with Cambo?! Finding a single scapegoat when our mediocrity seems to be a deeper problem within the whole club or at least the footy department. If it takes the captain to play well for the rest to play well then that doesn't say much for the mentality of our players. I don't see the Carlton players chucking it in because Lance can't get a kick. Where's the pride and self-belief in your own effort and performance and wanting to do the team things?
lance showed whuy he is captain, he worked his way out of teh cold and played hard and well yesterday
only if us tigers had a leader like him, who against the odds can bounce back
blues have heart and balls, we dont
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lance showed whuy he is captain, he worked his way out of teh cold and played hard and well yesterday
only if us tigers had a leader like him, who against the odds can bounce back
Johnson had a poor start to 2006. By the end of the season he was B&F.
Is that the type of working out of the cold and bouncing back you mean?
Just because Campbell was unfairly treated doesn't make it ok for the same to happen to Johnson.
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You cant be serious even comparing the two.
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No. I'm saying it's not ok to treat Johnson poorly on the premise that Campbell was.
(I'm assuming you were replying to me ???)
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No. I'm saying it's not ok to treat Johnson poorly on the premise that Campbell was.
(I'm assuming you were replying to me ???)
no, not at you at all fishy.
just think the two players are poles apart in regards to what they have done for the RFC
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No. I'm saying it's not ok to treat Johnson poorly on the premise that Campbell was.
(I'm assuming you were replying to me ???)
no, not at you at all fishy.
just think the two players are poles apart in regards to what they have done for the RFC
Tell that to our so called supporters who never forgave Cambo for threatening to walk to North and who would bag him ad nauseum for his short little chips and him getting the captaincy from Knighter. The same leadership question marks pointed at Sugar now were also pointed at Cambo. The captain bashing isn't poles apart.
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Campbell -v- Sugar (aka Johnosn)
it's like .....
beans -v- brussel sprouts
You cannot really compare because some people no matter what love beans while others no matter what love brussel sprouts
;)
;D
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Campbell -v- Sugar (aka Johnosn)
it's like .....
beans -v- brussel sprouts
You cannot really compare because some people no matter what love beans while others no matter what love brussel sprouts
;)
;D
LOL
With that analogy no wonder they don't inspire our kids to greatness :lol
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To me its more like beans vs what happens after you eat too many of them. :lol
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At least Campbell was a great,servicable player for the club at one point of his career.even inspiring.
The Captaincy,imo,was too big a burden in light of the fact he was consumed by his ownership of the Swan Hotel
and then later another pub in Richmond.
I also heard a whisper that he was over the way how feral our supporters can be.
Can't say i blame him for that.
Johnson is just a fairy and as i think about his service to us this far I can actually feel
my stomach knot.
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No. I'm saying it's not ok to treat Johnson poorly on the premise that Campbell was.
(I'm assuming you were replying to me ???)
no, not at you at all fishy.
just think the two players are poles apart in regards to what they have done for the RFC
Tell that to our so called supporters who never forgave Cambo for threatening to walk to North and who would bag him ad nauseum for his short little chips and him getting the captaincy from Knighter. The same leadership question marks pointed at Sugar now were also pointed at Cambo. The captain bashing isn't poles apart.
mt the only reason he wanted to leave was because he was made aware of inhouse talk about trading him, he felt gutted and betrayed thus wanted to leave and rightly so! same thing happened to northey, the last half decent coach we had. thanx to mal brown he left, who the hell was mal brown, played a handful of games and thought he owned the joint.
campbell was as good a captain as can be, but copped unwarranted stuff over his leadership.
why is sugar so protected, what a joke it was to a/ reccruit him, and b/ make him captain
let see if terry has the balls to drop the captain
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Knights was a champion.
Campbell was a good player.
Johnson is a hack.
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Knights was a champion.
Campbell was a good player.
Johnson is a hack.
agree
sugar should be dropped and sent to coburg, but i bet terry is to proud to admit he stuffed up picking him as captain and now it makes it damn hard to drop him, who was the last captain dropped from a team cos of form.
terry drop sugar immediately
ps, ppl say joel never deserved his jd medals!!!! pigs a rse of course he did, its sugar who was bloody given one
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That may be so about Cambo X but some supporters never forgave him. I can still remember a supporter in the RFC members a few years ago, after we had just kicked a goal thanks to a smart lobbed kick by Cambo to one of our leading forwards, remaining arms crossed and turning to his mate next to him saying "typical Campbell kicking short up and unders, that's why I've never liked him" ::).
Knights was a great player (moreso before and including '95) but we never made the finals either under his captaincy.
I seriously believe we could make anyone captain and they would get bagged by our own supporters. Team depth especially quality ballwinning onballers is something we have always lacked and still do. Too much left to too few. That's not the captain's fault that's the recruiter's job. Right now our older starting midfielders are just B-graders at best and below them are our young blokes still learning the caper. One top player isn't going to solve our deficiencies. If we somehow got Judd and made him captain little would change IMO.
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Even Cambo ended up being schhit as captain. The difference was though that he was shot at the time, whereas Johnson is meant to be in the prime of his career.
I thought Cambo was out best player in 2001 ( not Gaspar ), he was second in the league in clearances and was doing a lot of hard things, somewhat unsual for him. 2002 he was ok, playing injured half the year and still pulled off some inspirational performances, notably against West Coast (36 touches, 4 goals) and Melbourne (17 touches and a goal in last quarter) to win games off his own boot. In 2003 he started of great, and was miles ahead of anyone in our B&F until he did his achilles. After that he was history and we, following him, went to total scchit.
Johnson looks to be playing injured to me. He is so slow it's glaring. But I don't want to attribute everything to injury, for even when he does get the ball he makes as stupid errors as you'd see from a first gamer. IMO he never has had and never will have the footy nous of someone like cambo, both as a player and as a captain. He seems no more tactically aware than Luke McGuane.
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That may be so about Cambo X but some supporters never forgave him. I can still remember a supporter in the RFC members a few years ago, after we had just kicked a goal thanks to a smart lobbed kick by Cambo to one of our leading forwards, remaining arms crossed and turning to his mate next to him saying "typical Campbell kicking short up and unders, that's why I've never liked him" ::).
Knights was a great player (moreso before and including '95) but we never made the finals either under his captaincy.
I seriously believe we could make anyone captain and they would get bagged by our own supporters. Team depth especially quality ballwinning onballers is something we have always lacked and still do. Too much left to too few. That's not the captain's fault that's the recruiter's job. Right now our older starting midfielders are just B-graders at best and below them are our young blokes still learning the caper. One top player isn't going to solve our deficiencies. If we somehow got Judd and made him captain little would change IMO.
I understand what you are saying MT, but I'm comenting on his playing ability. Had he'd not been captain I'd still say he's a hack and be calling for his axing. He's basically a blonde version of Mathew Rogers (geez I couldn't stand him). He has little awareness, vision, and footy smarts. He's a first otion type player and if the first option isn't glaringly obvious he'll take the easy option and blaze away anywhere. IMO he is one of the most overrated players in the league.
You cannot compare him to Campbell because, even though Campbells kicking let him down alot, he was still smart enough to find the hard and loose ball and he was great in getting his teamates into the game by hand. Wasn't the biggest fan of Campbell but had respect for him as a player.
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ROFLAMOOOO@Rogers. Trust Harry to bring old hand grenade back to discussion. Funny carrnt.You're right though, Johnson is turning into Rogers mach II. Rogers could still be playing today given the standard we are setting.
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Knights was a champion.
Campbell was a good player.
Johnson is a hack.
I don't know about a hack.
I think my non tiger friend sums him up perfectly- 'he was good for Adelaide, has only been OK for Richmond'
In an ideal world, your captain wouldn't be OK. He'd be a gun!
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Rogers was better than Johnson at Richmond.
LMAO@ Rogers being our captain
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Took your time to get back here John.
WP - I'd rather beans than brussell sprouts :chuck
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WP - I'd rather beans than brussell sprouts :chuck
;D :thumbsup
Personally I prefer peas ;)
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Yeah me too - especially mint peas.
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Took your time to get back here John.
On Skippy they whistle with a gumleaf.
On OER they whistle with a Campbell.
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Took your time to get back here John.
On Skippy they whistle with a gumleaf.
On OER they whistle with a Campbell.
:lol
Cambo: tsk tsk tsk
JohnF: What's that Cambo?
Cambo: tsk tsk tsk
JohnF: There's a problem at Punt Rd?
Cambo: tsk tsk tsk
JohnF: They're talking about you on OER?
Cambo: tsk tsk tsk
JohnF: I'll be right there
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LOL
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Cambo: tsk tsk tsk
JohnF: What's that Cambo?
Cambo: tsk tsk tsk
JohnF: There's a problem at Punt Rd?
Cambo: tsk tsk tsk
JohnF: They're talking about you on OER?
Cambo: tsk tsk tsk
JohnF: I'll be right there
Lol, that's gold. :ROTFL
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Took your time to get back here John.
On Skippy they whistle with a gumleaf.
On OER they whistle with a Campbell.
:lol
Cambo: tsk tsk tsk
JohnF: What's that Cambo?
Cambo: tsk tsk tsk
JohnF: There's a problem at Punt Rd?
Cambo: tsk tsk tsk
JohnF: They're talking about you on OER?
Cambo: tsk tsk tsk
JohnF: I'll be right there
ROFLAMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooo :bow
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:bow MT :bow
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LSHICAB ! :rollin :rollin :rollin
(LAUGHING SO HARD i'VE CRACKED A BARNY)