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Title: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: mightytiges on May 17, 2007, 10:05:35 PM
He wants to join the board for next year and if the club wants to become president within 2 years.

Source: Hutchy on the footy show. They showed a recorded interview with Ilham.
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 17, 2007, 10:15:54 PM
He wants to join the board for next year and if the club wants to become president within 2 years.
Source: Hutchy on the footy show. They showed a recorded interview with Ilhan.

Gee John's a generous soul - if the Club wants - pluuzeee.....  :wallywink

I think Caro's been out scoped with the poop.

Hmmmm what was that I was saying earlier in the week about conditions being attached .........  :banghead



Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: mightytiges on May 17, 2007, 10:20:20 PM
Apparently has the support of sponsor Motorola according to Hutchy.
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 17, 2007, 10:21:49 PM
And another thing  :-\

Is John one of these so-called "people at richmond" that poor Caro was talking about :help

If so what an absolute joke

But I wont harp on this .....  :whistle
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Life goes on on May 17, 2007, 11:29:55 PM
As i said a few weeks ago , he will be there by years end, as Pres ;)
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: one-eyed on May 18, 2007, 06:00:04 AM
From 2004:
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Ilhan said last night he had the time to join the board of his beloved Tigers but was not interested in being president.

But bad business dealings with Casey in the past had soiled his relationship with the embattled leader.

"No one has actually asked me (to join). If they did it wouldn't be with the current board," Ilhan said.

"I have had a few bad business dealings with them.

"We tried a couple of sponsorship deals in the past, but they (the Tigers) weren't professional."

http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=199.msg4480#msg4480

From 2005:
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Mobile phone retailer Crazy John's is in the hunt to put its name on Richmond shirts after the Transport Accident Commission withdrew sponsorship of the club last week.

The company, run by Richmond fan John Ilhan, is one of 12 companies considering getting involved with the club.

"We have not formally approached Richmond yet but are discussing it internally," managing director Brendan Fleiter said.

"We are always looking for good value sponsorship options.

"It is potentially a good fit for us because Motorola is already a club sponsor and also a major supplier to Crazy John's."

http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=1525.msg16859#msg16859

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RICHMOND is poised to sign a lucrative sponsorship deal with mobile phone magnate "Crazy" John Ilhan.

The two parties are in discussions and are expected to finalise an agreement for the 2006 season and beyond by Christmas.

The Tigers are already well supported by joint major sponsors Motorola and the Australian Finance Group, but Mr Ilhan, a life-long Richmond supporter, says he is willing to pour millions of dollars into the club he loves.

"I've been waiting for a major (sponsorship) but it's never really come up. So we're going to go in there anyway at some level and get involved," he said yesterday.

"We've tried a few times before and it didn't work out – but now we'll be there for the long haul."

The 39-year-old said few people at Tigerland realised he was a die-hard supporter until his name emerged during last year's bitter boardroom dispute.

He has since met with coach Terry Wallace and chief executive Steve Wright to discuss a number of options, including signage rights at Punt Rd Oval.

Ilhan said he was also interested in joining the Richmond board in coming years. "If the opportunity was there and I was asked, I'd love to – they're my team, " he said.

Crazy John's has an existing sponsorship deal with Collingwood.

Richmond's off-field fortunes have soared since the TAC withdrew its major sponsorship in April.

http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=2298.0

From 2006:
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MILLIONAIRE mobile phone magnate "Crazy" John Ilhan wants to be Richmond president.

And the lifelong Tigers fan says he's willing to pour millions of dollars into the club he loves to return it to its premiership glory days.

"I love Richmond, I always have," he said.

"When the time is right, and if they want me, I'd love to lead the club."

Ilhan, 41, topped last year's BRW Young Rich List with an estimated worth of $300 million.

Richmond president Gary March has revealed moves are already under way for the innovative phone king to join the Tigers board, possibly as early as next season, but more likely in 2008 once a new overseas business venture is finalised.

"John is looking more and more to be involved with Richmond. It's his club of choice. And anyone of John's business acumen, obviously we'd be very keen," March said.

"We are constantly looking for the next wave of directors to come through, and John is one of the ones we targeted."

March said Ilhan had all the credentials for Punt Rd's top job.

Ilhan said he had been inspired by close friend Eddie McGuire's reign at Collingwood and the innovative ideas adopted by the Pies' board to make it the AFL's power franchise.

Crazy John's is already one of Richmond's financial backers behind major sponsors Motorola and the Australian Finance Group. But Ilhan said he was ready to give more.

His ideas include luring club legend Kevin Bartlett back to the fold and aligning the Tigers with other codes such as netball and soccer to create a financial super club.

"I don't think the Melbourne-based clubs are really looking outside the square enough, and I think they need to, to survive," Ilhan said.

http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=4053.msg45409#msg45409
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: julzqld on May 18, 2007, 07:52:06 AM
What happened to Rex joining the board?

How can Crazy John have an existing sponsorship deal with Collingwood?  Isn't that a conflict of interest?
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 18, 2007, 08:40:01 AM
As i said a few weeks ago , he will be there by years end, as Pres ;)

And how does he intend to do that Jack - the board elect the president not "people at Richmond".

There are only 3 vacancy a season on the board unless......

So is he and his people going to spill the entire board.... :banghead

We just don't get it
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Life goes on on May 18, 2007, 09:27:22 AM
I honestly dont know, only tell you what I am told.
Buy his way in perhaps? Money is not a problem
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Ramps on May 18, 2007, 09:56:48 AM
Well the rumours are gathering more and more reality as time moves on, Plough may have a decision to make soon?
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: FooffooValve on May 18, 2007, 10:07:50 AM
As i said a few weeks ago , he will be there by years end, as Pres ;)

And how does he intend to do that Jack - the board elect the president not "people at Richmond".

There are only 3 vacancy a season on the board unless......

So is he and his people going to spill the entire board.... :banghead

We just don't get it

the board elects the president after every election, doesn't it? so, Ilhan gets elected, then the board elects him pres. can happen.

why do i get a bad feeling about this bloke?
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 18, 2007, 10:13:48 AM
the board elects the president after every election, doesn't it? so, Ilhan gets elected, then the board elects him pres. can happen.


Yes the board does so if the board elects him well and good but if they don't what he going to do is all I am asking.

As I said there is under normal circumstances 3 positions on the board that become vacant every year - which Mr Ilhan has right to nominate for (if he is a member - he is a member now isn't he ::)) he he wants. I am just asking does he intend to do this or is going to call for a spill. What is he going to do.

I don't watch the footy show but I wonder if this is just another one of his self promotional interviews >:( :P ::)

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why do i get a bad feeling about this bloke?

You and me both.....

But I wont go there ;D

Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Life goes on on May 18, 2007, 10:19:21 AM
would think there are some extremely nervous people today at punt road.
There is no doubt that if he is successful and its only the timimg of it all ,that there will be a clean sweep.
Similar to what Eddie did at the pies
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: wayne on May 18, 2007, 10:24:44 AM
You and me both.....

But I wont go there ;D

Could be a Gutnick?
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Moi on May 18, 2007, 10:34:53 AM
would think there are some extremely nervous people today at punt road.
There is no doubt that if he is successful and its only the timimg of it all ,that there will be a clean sweep.
Similar to what Eddie did at the pies
Then god help these people if those that are behind it - not looking at anyone  ::)- put this club in the scrap heap!
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Life goes on on May 18, 2007, 10:44:01 AM
would think there are some extremely nervous people today at punt road.
There is no doubt that if he is successful and its only the timimg of it all ,that there will be a clean sweep.
Similar to what Eddie did at the pies
Then god help these people if those that are behind it - not looking at anyone  ::)- put this club in the scrap heap!

Hey Moi.
This has nothing what so ever to do with me. Only telling you what I am told, if you dont like , run for the board!
If people want to put money up and improve the processes behind the scenes, well and good.
As how things are functioning at the moment is extremely poor
Now why did Cleve Hughes get dropped ::)
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Moi on May 18, 2007, 10:53:18 AM
Hey Moi.
This has nothing what so ever to do with me.
Sorry, I see it differently. 
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Life goes on on May 18, 2007, 10:54:53 AM
What do you think me and John are friends ? Answer no
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: FooffooValve on May 18, 2007, 10:57:53 AM
What do you think me and John are friends ? Answer no

so, you can't increase his exposure and help him make money?  ;D
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Life goes on on May 18, 2007, 11:02:37 AM
What do you think me and John are friends ? Answer no

so, you can't increase his exposure and help him make money?  ;D

i probably could actually
Anyway, interesting times ahead
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Moi on May 18, 2007, 11:08:00 AM
What do you think me and John are friends ? Answer no

so, you can't increase his exposure and help him make money?  ;D

i probably could actually
Anyway, interesting times ahead
Gee, if only you had a bit of self-confidence....  ::)
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Life goes on on May 18, 2007, 11:12:06 AM
fact of the matter is that the business I run has the same dollar turnover as the RFC. Running a business isnt hard if you have strategy and leaders who know what there doing ::)
I still trying to work out how young Cleve Hughes got dropped.?
Can anyone here answer that please ?
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: FooffooValve on May 18, 2007, 11:25:54 AM
fact of the matter is that the business I run has the same dollar turnover as the RFC. Running a business isnt hard if you have strategy and leaders who know what there doing ::)
I still trying to work out how young Cleve Hughes got dropped.?
Can anyone here answer that please ?

maybe because 6 disposals and 1 behind in his last outing wan't quite good enough?

it's gonna be wet.

we need runners against adelaide.
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Ramps on May 18, 2007, 12:48:29 PM
If John Ilhan runs for the board I expect he'll win because our members wont accept the season we just had, if the people who dont want Ilhan to be on the board want a better outcome Id suggest they get together and try and get David Morgan to take over the presidency of the club coz hes just about the only big name thats been out there associated with us who could beat Ilhan and he could probably do it to coz hes tenure at Westpac is finishing.
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Gordon Bennett on May 18, 2007, 12:59:50 PM
You're showing remarkable restraint, WP, and you're right on the money about this guy.

I have a neighbour with a lot of money. He wants to be president of Richmond as well. He thinks he can just takeover the club because he wants to. I told him that the members might not want him. He said "but I've got lots of money...that means I'm the right person for the job". He also says he's a die-hard supporter. When I questioned him about some of our young players, he didn't have a clue.

Ilhan would be a disaster for this club. He doesn't care about the club, he cares about himself and making money. He regularly makes vague promises, but rarely delivers. His self-promotion is shameless. I honestly don't believe he's a "richmond person".

We need stability.If he wants to donate some money, that's great.If he wants to increase his sponsorship, that's okay too. If he wants to stand for the board, then that's his right. A real "richmond person", someone with CLASS, would first try to win a place on the board. They would keep their presidential aspirations quiet, instead trying to EARN that position after being on the board for awhile and having the faith of the rest of the board. If he said "give me the presidency or I'll keep my money that I've promised", then they should tell him to get stuffed.
His past record suggests that you shouldn't believe any of his promises anyway. If Motorola is backing him, then it's clear they're doing it out of self-interest (cross-promotion), not goodwill for the club.

I will never vote for Ilhan, and if he takes over in some sort of coup, then I really fear for the club.

We need stability. Wallace must be given time to serve out his contract. Slow and steady wins the race. Big upheavels haven't helped in the past.

Hughes being omitted this week is totally irrelevant to this issue.
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: wayne on May 18, 2007, 01:58:50 PM
Now why did Cleve Hughes get dropped ::)

Because they have no idea?
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: julzqld on May 18, 2007, 04:10:52 PM
Yes I feel uneasy about a person buying their way into the presidency.  Is Crazy John actually a member?  And why has no-one answered my question about Rex? 
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Fishfinger on May 18, 2007, 04:35:04 PM
Rex thought his THC membership was also a club membership, Julz.
It's not, so he wasn't a member and couldn't run for the board then. The opportunity has not presented again, for whatever reason. Probably because the people on the board seem to have turned the business side of the club


I still trying to work out how young Cleve Hughes got dropped.?
Can anyone here answer that please ?
Because John Ilhan is not on the match committee?  :-\ (Is it a trick question?)
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Moi on May 18, 2007, 04:37:12 PM
Cleve refuses to use modern technology and doesn't own a mobile phone lol
Great question, Jack  :rollin
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Life goes on on May 18, 2007, 05:02:01 PM
Cleve refuses to use modern technology and doesn't own a mobile phone lol
Great question, Jack  :rollin


It is a great question, as he was the future of the club a fortnight ago and now he is back at the burgers.
Wallace wont survive as he isnt prepared to do what the current board want!
Can tell you he went against the wishes of the board( No player over 25 ) by recruiting Kingsley, and now drop a kid after one bad game
Might add the Matty White shouldnt of been dropped either.
Shut the door on the way out Terry, its a disgrace, :banghead
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: mightytiges on May 18, 2007, 06:31:27 PM
fact of the matter is that the business I run has the same dollar turnover as the RFC. Running a business isnt hard if you have strategy and leaders who know what there doing ::)
Then why should we support the very "Richmond people" who have shown over the past 25 years that they never understood what they're doing and still haven't learnt and moved into the 21st century. They still believe in board upheaval, sackings and other quick fixes. It's not as simple as translating business success to football club success. There are so many artifical socialist constraints at an AFL club that you don't encounter in the free market. All we've heard over the past few years is Ilhan wants to join the board and become prez. We need more substance than just that he is loaded. He can't go out and buy players. Pratt has stabilised Carlton off-field but Carlton haven't improved any further than expected this year. They are still a bottom 4 side.
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Life goes on on May 18, 2007, 06:36:01 PM
Like it or not, Footy is now a business.
Just ask Eddie!
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: mightytiges on May 18, 2007, 06:48:22 PM
Like it or not, Footy is now a business.
Just ask Eddie!

True Jack but Eddie bleeds Collingwood and understands the average Pie fan's psyche. He also had a weekly national tv program to promote his Club and draw in sponsors, more members and revenue.
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Fishfinger on May 18, 2007, 06:50:06 PM
We'd better not ask Eddie how business success translates to football club success though (which was the point made). He doesn't know.  ;)
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Life goes on on May 18, 2007, 07:02:51 PM
Eddie talk on a job that he never had the skills to do.
CEO of a TV Channel  ::)
Hardly think Eddies has had much of an eduction or passed degrees etc etc ::)
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: mightytiges on May 19, 2007, 01:19:43 AM
We'd better not ask Eddie how business success translates to football club success though (which was the point made). He doesn't know.  ;)
Didn't realise Collingwood won a premiership under Eddie  ;). Footy is a business but the name of the game is still winning flags. No one remembers runners-ups.

In any case as far as Richmond goes I don't see the sky falling in as the has-beens squealing from behind the scenes are trying to make out and feeding Caro. The club needs to persist with the kids and not throw out the baby with the bathwater because of one or two absolute shockers. There'll be more downers and backward steps to come but that's the nature of a young inexperienced side. We certainly don't need boardroom upheavel and idiots wanting to change things now mid-stream with their quick fixes.
Title: Crazy idea to boost the Tigers (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on May 20, 2007, 04:09:12 AM
Crazy idea to boost the Tigers
20 May 2007   Sunday Herald Sun
Jon Ralph

NO point banging on again about how terrible Richmond's plight has become.

Any hope of turning around what is statistically its worst start to the season might have gone down the gurgler with a face injury to Matthew Richardson, the Tigers' only available matchwinner.

The Tigers were much improved on Friday night and their draw gets easier, but the fact remains they have equalled Sydney and Fremantle as the only 0-8 teams in the past 15 years.

The two options available to most clubs in such a predicament would seem closed off.

Richmond won't sack its coach and won't be able to trade off a host of its established players as Hawthorn did recently to bring together young talent in a cohesive group.

The coach has another two years left on his contract, and there simply aren't the Jon Hay/Nathan Thompson equivalents to garner interest elsewhere.

The answer lies in recruiting and it is here that a novel idea might be the solution.

Publicity craving John Ilhan (above), of Crazy John's fame, was at it again on The Footy Show on Thursday, forecasting his intention to move on to the Richmond board and eventually become president.

Here is another idea, John.

Why not put your money where your mouth is and cough up $500,000 a year to sponsor an expanded Richmond recruiting department and give the Tigers a legitimate chance to build through the kids?

Those juniors were on show on Friday - rookie elevations Nathan Foley, Jake King, Will Thursfield and a revelation in first-year midfielder Shane Edwards.

But there is no point in having emerging kids - you need more than your rivals or you just stagnate.

Collingwood, which is today unveiling its fifth first-gamer of the year, spent $787,000 on its recruiting last year compared with Richmond's $150,000.

That figure doesn't include Greg Miller's salary, but it is a woefully inadequate sum.

Call the kids Crazy John's Cubs, or Crazy John's Young Guns, but think of the goodwill engendered when another late pick or rookie begins to flourish.

You can bet Collingwood, which even has a sponsor for Eddie McGuire and boasts it will soon be a $100 million-a-year business, will only be expanding its recruiting budget.

The new frontier of recruiting is scouring international destinations, hiring a battery of recruiters, spending vast sums on developing interstate potential and honing rookie talent.

Desperate measures call for desperate solutions and Richmond needs something drastic to ensure it is not a middle-of-the-road side for another quarter of a century.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21761341%255E19742,00.html
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: mightytiges on May 20, 2007, 05:52:47 AM
Great article  :clapping. We need constructive ideas that are specific, useful and practical; not handwavey notions of accountability and set-ups.
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Moi on May 20, 2007, 01:33:18 PM
Great article  :thumbsup
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: 1965 on May 20, 2007, 01:56:56 PM
Great article  :thumbsup

I was beginning to think OER had died on me.

4 1/2 hours between posts thank goodness I still have a couple of active accounts at PRE where I can go and cause the Mods some grief.

 :shh

Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Fishfinger on May 20, 2007, 02:41:12 PM
.....thank goodness I still have a couple of active accounts at PRE where I can go and cause the Mods some grief.

Aren't you a teacher, '65? Reform school?  ;D
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: 1965 on May 20, 2007, 02:48:51 PM
.....thank goodness I still have a couple of active accounts at PRE where I can go and cause the Mods some grief.

Aren't you a teacher, '65? Reform school?  ;D

Couldn't be further from the truth, reform school might be a little more rewarding than the...

Don't start me.

Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: 2JD on May 20, 2007, 03:03:20 PM
Crazy idea to boost the Tigers
20 May 2007   Sunday Herald Sun
Jon Ralph

The new frontier of recruiting is scouring international destinations, hiring a battery of recruiters, http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21761341%255E19742,00.html

I will put my hand up to go see if there are any potentials in the Greek Isles!!  ;D
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Ramps on May 20, 2007, 06:08:14 PM
Crazy idea to boost the Tigers
20 May 2007   Sunday Herald Sun
Jon Ralph

The new frontier of recruiting is scouring international destinations, hiring a battery of recruiters, http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21761341%255E19742,00.html

I will put my hand up to go see if there are any potentials in the Greek Isles!!  ;D

You can go to Rhodes and Ill go Kerkyra and Santorini. Im sure we'll both find plenty of talent  ;D
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 21, 2007, 08:04:22 PM
You're showing remarkable restraint, WP, and you're right on the money about this guy.


I show restraint GB because this bloke is not worth my time or energy. He says he bleeds for the Tigers but he sponsors the Magpies first before he considers sponsoring the club he supposedly loves and then blames Richmond for not sponsoring sooner. As I said conditions.

Now I am not in Mr Crazy's league financially. All I know is that ever year come hell or higher water I put what I can afford into this football club and I don't put conditions on support I just do it (like most on this forum do). I have never liked him and I've always found myself questioning his motives. Again in this instance my "gut" feel has not changed.

Quote
Ilhan would be a disaster for this club. He doesn't care about the club, he cares about himself and making money. He regularly makes vague promises, but rarely delivers. His self-promotion is shameless. I honestly don't believe he's a "richmond person".


Exactly GB :clapping

Crazy idea to boost the Tigers
20 May 2007   Sunday Herald Sun
Jon Ralph

NO point banging on again about how terrible Richmond's plight has become.

Any hope of turning around what is statistically its worst start to the season might have gone down the gurgler with a face injury to Matthew Richardson, the Tigers' only available matchwinner.

The Tigers were much improved on Friday night and their draw gets easier, but the fact remains they have equalled Sydney and Fremantle as the only 0-8 teams in the past 15 years.

The two options available to most clubs in such a predicament would seem closed off.

Richmond won't sack its coach and won't be able to trade off a host of its established players as Hawthorn did recently to bring together young talent in a cohesive group.

The coach has another two years left on his contract, and there simply aren't the Jon Hay/Nathan Thompson equivalents to garner interest elsewhere.

The answer lies in recruiting and it is here that a novel idea might be the solution.

Publicity craving John Ilhan (above), of Crazy John's fame, was at it again on The Footy Show on Thursday, forecasting his intention to move on to the Richmond board and eventually become president.

Here is another idea, John.


Why not put your money where your mouth is and cough up $500,000 a year to sponsor an expanded Richmond recruiting department and give the Tigers a legitimate chance to build through the kids?

Those juniors were on show on Friday - rookie elevations Nathan Foley, Jake King, Will Thursfield and a revelation in first-year midfielder Shane Edwards.

But there is no point in having emerging kids - you need more than your rivals or you just stagnate.

Collingwood, which is today unveiling its fifth first-gamer of the year, spent $787,000 on its recruiting last year compared with Richmond's $150,000.

That figure doesn't include Greg Miller's salary, but it is a woefully inadequate sum.

Call the kids Crazy John's Cubs, or Crazy John's Young Guns, but think of the goodwill engendered when another late pick or rookie begins to flourish.

You can bet Collingwood, which even has a sponsor for Eddie McGuire and boasts it will soon be a $100 million-a-year business, will only be expanding its recruiting budget.

The new frontier of recruiting is scouring international destinations, hiring a battery of recruiters, spending vast sums on developing interstate potential and honing rookie talent.

Desperate measures call for desperate solutions and Richmond needs something drastic to ensure it is not a middle-of-the-road side for another quarter of a century.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21761341%255E19742,00.html

Excellent article Jon Ralph - hit the nail on the head :clapping

fact of the matter is that the business I run has the same dollar turnover as the RFC. Running a business isnt hard if you have strategy and leaders who know what there doing ::)
I still trying to work out how young Cleve Hughes got dropped.?
Can anyone here answer that please ?

What has Cleve Hughes being dropped got to do with the business side of the Club? One would hope absolutely nothing

I have no doubt that at the RFC there is a business strategy (plan) and a football department strategy. To ensure that the footy side is achievable the business side of things needs to be stable and productive. The reality is that the business side of the Club is now very strong (eg the financial side). Mr Crazy coming on board is not going to change that. The hard work on that front has already been done
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: mightytiges on June 14, 2007, 02:19:17 PM
While talking about Steve Bedwell backing off today from his challenge on Rod Butterss at the Saints, Mark Doran on SEN had a little dig at John Ilhan saying Bedwell was like Crazy John who pops up every year saying he wants to be on the Richmond board then disappears again after getting the pludits and publicity while the club gets nothing.
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: torch on June 14, 2007, 02:35:48 PM
he will inject $$$ for us ...

elect him in 08 !
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Moi on June 14, 2007, 02:37:30 PM
Alan Bond's making money again - how about him lol
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: bluey_21 on June 14, 2007, 03:13:38 PM
he will inject $$$ for us ...

elect him in 08 !

Yeah, might be able to get a decent recruiting department
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Gordon Bennett on June 14, 2007, 04:19:36 PM
he will inject $$$ for us ...

elect him in 08 !
Do you know that for sure, and if so, whether it'll be of any substance? The answer is "no".

Mark Doran has gone up in my estimation.

Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: mightytiges on June 14, 2007, 06:26:20 PM
Does anyone know who are the three on the RFC board up for re-election at the end of the year?

Is it Miller, Dalton and OShannassy?
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 14, 2007, 10:00:42 PM
he will inject $$$ for us ...

elect him in 08 !

If he really loves the Club as much as he claims torch, he'd pour the money regardless.

He isn't what we need on the board.

Football club boards need people who are prepared to work together when things are tough and when things are great.

It's funny that now that the finances have turned around due to the hard work of the current board Mr Crazy is interested in being on the board :o :o What a surprise. Come on the board now when the hardest work is already done and enjoy the spoils - yeah right ::)

Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Fishfinger on June 15, 2007, 08:54:39 PM
Does anyone know who are the three on the RFC board up for re-election at the end of the year?

Is it Miller, Dalton and OShannassy?
O'Shannassy, Dalton and Cameron were last year.  ;) Miller is next year.

Not sure who is up. I think they had to draw straws or something as they were all elected at the same time.

I seem to recall Clinton Casey would have been one, so that would mean Penny Haines seeing she took his place.
The other 2 have to be out of March, Lord, Matthies and Mithen.
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: mightytiges on June 15, 2007, 10:32:47 PM
Does anyone know who are the three on the RFC board up for re-election at the end of the year?

Is it Miller, Dalton and OShannassy?
O'Shannassy, Dalton and Cameron were last year.  ;) Miller is next year.

Not sure who is up. I think they had to draw straws or something as they were all elected at the same time.

I seem to recall Clinton Casey would have been one, so that would mean Penny Haines seeing she took his place.
The other 2 have to be out of March, Lord, Matthies and Mithen.
Thanks FF  :). I was being lazy not doing a search.

Just checked. Mithen was last year and Cameron the year before. Leaves March, Matthies and Haines up for re-election this year.

March was appointed on 1/10/02 (last elected 2004)
Cameron - 16/12/99 (2005)
Lord - 23/10/01  (2005)
Dalton - 9/11/04 (2006)
Matthies - 29/1/04 (2004)
Mithen - 20/4/04 (2006)
Miller - 22/12/04  (2005)
OShannassy - 22/12/04 (2006)
Haines - 12/11/05 (took Casey's position who was last elected 2004)
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Fishfinger on June 15, 2007, 10:38:35 PM

Just checked. Mithen was last year and Cameron the year before. Leaves March, Matthies and Haines up for re-election this year.

Ahh, that's right. The reports last year kept mistakenly saying Cameron when it was actually Mithen.

That's a pretty comprehensive search in the end. Worth the wait.  :)
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Bulluss on June 15, 2007, 10:46:27 PM
he will inject $$$ for us ...

elect him in 08 !

If he really loves the Club as much as he claims torch, he'd pour the money regardless.

He isn't what we need on the board.

Football club boards need people who are prepared to work together when things are tough and when things are great.

It's funny that now that the finances have turned around due to the hard work of the current board Mr Crazy is interested in being on the board :o :o What a surprise. Come on the board now when the hardest work is already done and enjoy the spoils - yeah right ::)



I dare say that most of the work that has been done to get us in the position we are now in financially has to do with Steven Wright and not so much the board.
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 16, 2007, 11:14:07 AM
I dare say that most of the work that has been done to get us in the position we are now in financially has to do with Steven Wright and not so much the board.

The CEO reports to the board Bull - and ultimately the board give "yeahs & neahs" on long term strategic decisions. For example Boards sign off on the budgets etc - management put them together Boards give final approval - that's what happens in nearly every company.

Also, Directors bring with them the contacts regarding sponsorship. For example it was Gary March who bought AFG to the RFC - Steven Wright did the deal but it was Gary who made the first contact and bought them to the table.

Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: blaisee on June 16, 2007, 11:52:24 AM
Millers ability and contribution to us becoming financially viable should not be understated in all this.

HE has contributing massive amounts of funds indirectly through his richmond executive and another little money earner just comp[leted that will profit the club +180k to be announced soon.

 :shh
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: mightytiges on June 16, 2007, 07:01:42 PM
That's true blaisee.

Well if John Ilhan wants to get on the board and be Prez will he challenge March at this year's upcoming election or will it be more hot air?! He's been saying for 3 years about wanting to join the board in 2008. There's a quote from 2004 in the media of him saying that.
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Bulluss on June 16, 2007, 07:35:20 PM
I dare say that most of the work that has been done to get us in the position we are now in financially has to do with Steven Wright and not so much the board.

The CEO reports to the board Bull - and ultimately the board give "yeahs & neahs" on long term strategic decisions. For example Boards sign off on the budgets etc - management put them together Boards give final approval - that's what happens in nearly every company.

Also, Directors bring with them the contacts regarding sponsorship. For example it was Gary March who bought AFG to the RFC - Steven Wright did the deal but it was Gary who made the first contact and bought them to the table.



Ofcourse the CEO reports to the board, but Wright has done all of the hard work to get things where they are. He is the one who has done all of the number crunching etc to make sure that we are making a profit. It's no coincidence that things have improved since he has come on board.

Just look how back things were when Brayshaw was in charge and that other American dude. It wasnt the board's fault it was the CEO's of the time.
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: mightytiges on June 16, 2007, 07:56:12 PM
The CEO does the work but the board appoints the CEO and is answerable to the shareholders (the members in our case). The board carries the responsibility for decisions made.
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Bulluss on June 16, 2007, 07:57:44 PM
The CEO does the work but the board appoints the CEO and is answerable to the shareholders (the members in our case). The board carries the responsibility for decisions made.

No denying that, thats why they sack them when they dont perform.

There is also no denying that Steven Wright has been a key factor in our current financial position.
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 17, 2007, 09:12:11 PM

There is also no denying that Steven Wright has been a key factor in our current financial position.

Not disputing the work Steven Wright's done Bull - exceptional operator (quality person) :thumbsup

Just saying the kudos should be shared around to all those involved in it and I am a little wary of the likes of Mr Crazy wanting to be part of it now  :thumbsup
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: rogerd3 on June 17, 2007, 09:21:04 PM

There is also no denying that Steven Wright has been a key factor in our current financial position.

Not disputing the work Steven Wright's done Bull - exceptional operator (quality person) :thumbsup

Just saying the kudos should be shared around to all those involved in it and I am a little wary of the likes of Mr Crazy wanting to be part of it now  :thumbsup


Steve Wright deserves every plaudit that comes his way, not to mention the others that for some reason have a strike against their names.
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Passionfruit on July 26, 2007, 10:24:02 AM
bump ;)
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Tigermonk on July 26, 2007, 12:23:33 PM
l like to see hardened football knowledge people on the board at Richmond
not people who have got bags of $$$ & no football knowledge
l'm sure every rich supporter of Richmond would like to get on the board
Gary March is not someone l want at the helm
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: torch on July 26, 2007, 01:53:06 PM
$$$ wants success ... so will have power ... and if we don't ... sack sack sack ... more $$$ the better ...

Terry did say we still need more $$$ for more "things" around the club ... $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ = power !!!
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: one-eyed on July 27, 2007, 04:31:08 AM
Ilhan was on Ch 7 news last night supporting Plough to continue.
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Moi on July 27, 2007, 05:42:43 AM
Ilhan was on Ch 7 news last night supporting Plough to continue.

John Ilhan gave Channel Seven a statement saying:

“I am a Terry Wallace fan and believe he should have at least five years to implement his coaching strategy.

Whether it is business or sport everyone should be offered the opportunity to implement their strategy over five years, similar to Bomber Thompson.”


 :bow
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: {X} on July 27, 2007, 08:54:11 AM
Ilhan was on Ch 7 news last night supporting Plough to continue.

i know he is not our pres, but everytime someone such as a president assures or backs teh coach, its a deadset sign the coach will be sacked
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Moi on July 27, 2007, 08:58:58 AM
Ilhan was on Ch 7 news last night supporting Plough to continue.

i know he is not our pres, but everytime someone such as a president assures or backs teh coach, its a deadset sign the coach will be sacked
But surely if he was trying to get on side with supporters, the popular thing would be to say "Get Sheeds".  He's not president, or even a board member, so there's no need for him to defend him. 
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: the_boy_jake on July 27, 2007, 09:00:59 AM
Ilhan was on Ch 7 news last night supporting Plough to continue.

The fact that Ilhan's views on the coaching situation are getting coverage despite the fact he has no role at the club would hardly comfort Wallace!
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: mjs on July 27, 2007, 09:02:28 AM
Ilhan was on Ch 7 news last night supporting Plough to continue.

i know he is not our pres, but everytime someone such as a president assures or backs teh coach, its a deadset sign the coach will be sacked
But surely if he was trying to get on side with supporters, the popular thing would be to say "Get Sheeds".  He's not president, or even a board member, so there's no need for him to defend him. 



If this guy ever gets to a position of authority or power at Richmond I swear "I'll spew up"
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: Gordon Bennett on July 27, 2007, 09:46:26 AM

If this guy ever gets to a position of authority or power at Richmond I swear "I'll spew up"
yeah, there'll be carrot on the floor of many homes.

At least it puts paid to many people saying that he'll use his own money to pay out Wallace's contract in order to get Sheedy.
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 27, 2007, 01:11:07 PM
If this guy ever gets to a position of authority or power at Richmond I swear "I'll spew up"

 :thatsgold Terry sorry I meant mjs  :thumbsup
Title: Re: John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008
Post by: mightytiges on July 27, 2007, 04:09:43 PM
At least it puts paid to many people saying that he'll use his own money to pay out Wallace's contract in order to get Sheedy.
Yep GB. Not even Crazy John would just throw away $1 million.