John Ilhan to run for the board for 2008

[mightytiges]

fact of the matter is that the business I run has the same dollar turnover as the RFC. Running a business isnt hard if you have strategy and leaders who know what there doing

Then why should we support the very "Richmond people" who have shown over the past 25 years that they never understood what they're doing and still haven't learnt and moved into the 21st century. They still believe in board upheaval, sackings and other quick fixes. It's not as simple as translating business success to football club success. There are so many artifical socialist constraints at an AFL club that you don't encounter in the free market. All we've heard over the past few years is Ilhan wants to join the board and become prez. We need more substance than just that he is loaded. He can't go out and buy players. Pratt has stabilised Carlton off-field but Carlton haven't improved any further than expected this year. They are still a bottom 4 side.

[Life goes on]

Like it or not, Footy is now a business.
Just ask Eddie!

[mightytiges]

Like it or not, Footy is now a business.
Just ask Eddie!

True Jack but Eddie bleeds Collingwood and understands the average Pie fan's psyche. He also had a weekly national tv program to promote his Club and draw in sponsors, more members and revenue.

[Fishfinger]

We'd better not ask Eddie how business success translates to football club success though (which was the point made). He doesn't know. 

[Life goes on]

Eddie talk on a job that he never had the skills to do.
CEO of a TV Channel 
Hardly think Eddies has had much of an eduction or passed degrees etc etc

[mightytiges]

We'd better not ask Eddie how business success translates to football club success though (which was the point made). He doesn't know. 

Didn't realise Collingwood won a premiership under Eddie  . Footy is a business but the name of the game is still winning flags. No one remembers runners-ups.

In any case as far as Richmond goes I don't see the sky falling in as the has-beens squealing from behind the scenes are trying to make out and feeding Caro. The club needs to persist with the kids and not throw out the baby with the bathwater because of one or two absolute shockers. There'll be more downers and backward steps to come but that's the nature of a young inexperienced side. We certainly don't need boardroom upheavel and idiots wanting to change things now mid-stream with their quick fixes.

[one-eyed]

Crazy idea to boost the Tigers
20 May 2007   Sunday Herald Sun
Jon Ralph

NO point banging on again about how terrible Richmond's plight has become.

Any hope of turning around what is statistically its worst start to the season might have gone down the gurgler with a face injury to Matthew Richardson, the Tigers' only available matchwinner.

The Tigers were much improved on Friday night and their draw gets easier, but the fact remains they have equalled Sydney and Fremantle as the only 0-8 teams in the past 15 years.

The two options available to most clubs in such a predicament would seem closed off.

Richmond won't sack its coach and won't be able to trade off a host of its established players as Hawthorn did recently to bring together young talent in a cohesive group.

The coach has another two years left on his contract, and there simply aren't the Jon Hay/Nathan Thompson equivalents to garner interest elsewhere.

The answer lies in recruiting and it is here that a novel idea might be the solution.

Publicity craving John Ilhan (above), of Crazy John's fame, was at it again on The Footy Show on Thursday, forecasting his intention to move on to the Richmond board and eventually become president.

Here is another idea, John.

Why not put your money where your mouth is and cough up $500,000 a year to sponsor an expanded Richmond recruiting department and give the Tigers a legitimate chance to build through the kids?

Those juniors were on show on Friday - rookie elevations Nathan Foley, Jake King, Will Thursfield and a revelation in first-year midfielder Shane Edwards.

But there is no point in having emerging kids - you need more than your rivals or you just stagnate.

Collingwood, which is today unveiling its fifth first-gamer of the year, spent $787,000 on its recruiting last year compared with Richmond's $150,000.

That figure doesn't include Greg Miller's salary, but it is a woefully inadequate sum.

Call the kids Crazy John's Cubs, or Crazy John's Young Guns, but think of the goodwill engendered when another late pick or rookie begins to flourish.

You can bet Collingwood, which even has a sponsor for Eddie McGuire and boasts it will soon be a $100 million-a-year business, will only be expanding its recruiting budget.

The new frontier of recruiting is scouring international destinations, hiring a battery of recruiters, spending vast sums on developing interstate potential and honing rookie talent.

Desperate measures call for desperate solutions and Richmond needs something drastic to ensure it is not a middle-of-the-road side for another quarter of a century.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21761341%255E19742,00.html

[mightytiges]

Great article  . We need constructive ideas that are specific, useful and practical; not handwavey notions of accountability and set-ups.

[Moi]

Great article 

[1965]

Great article 

I was beginning to think OER had died on me.

4 1/2 hours between posts thank goodness I still have a couple of active accounts at PRE where I can go and cause the Mods some grief.

 

[Fishfinger]

.....thank goodness I still have a couple of active accounts at PRE where I can go and cause the Mods some grief.

Aren't you a teacher, '65? Reform school? 

[1965]

.....thank goodness I still have a couple of active accounts at PRE where I can go and cause the Mods some grief.

Aren't you a teacher, '65? Reform school? 

Couldn't be further from the truth, reform school might be a little more rewarding than the...

Don't start me.

[2JD]

Crazy idea to boost the Tigers
20 May 2007   Sunday Herald Sun
Jon Ralph

The new frontier of recruiting is scouring international destinations, hiring a battery of recruiters, http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21761341%255E19742,00.html

I will put my hand up to go see if there are any potentials in the Greek Isles!! 

[Ramps]

Crazy idea to boost the Tigers
20 May 2007   Sunday Herald Sun
Jon Ralph

The new frontier of recruiting is scouring international destinations, hiring a battery of recruiters, http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21761341%255E19742,00.html

I will put my hand up to go see if there are any potentials in the Greek Isles!! 

You can go to Rhodes and Ill go Kerkyra and Santorini. Im sure we'll both find plenty of talent 

[WilliamPowell]

You're showing remarkable restraint, WP, and you're right on the money about this guy.

I show restraint GB because this bloke is not worth my time or energy. He says he bleeds for the Tigers but he sponsors the Magpies first before he considers sponsoring the club he supposedly loves and then blames Richmond for not sponsoring sooner. As I said conditions.

Now I am not in Mr Crazy's league financially. All I know is that ever year come hell or higher water I put what I can afford into this football club and I don't put conditions on support I just do it (like most on this forum do). I have never liked him and I've always found myself questioning his motives. Again in this instance my "gut" feel has not changed.

Ilhan would be a disaster for this club. He doesn't care about the club, he cares about himself and making money. He regularly makes vague promises, but rarely delivers. His self-promotion is shameless. I honestly don't believe he's a "richmond person".

Exactly GB

Crazy idea to boost the Tigers
20 May 2007   Sunday Herald Sun
Jon Ralph

NO point banging on again about how terrible Richmond's plight has become.

Any hope of turning around what is statistically its worst start to the season might have gone down the gurgler with a face injury to Matthew Richardson, the Tigers' only available matchwinner.

The Tigers were much improved on Friday night and their draw gets easier, but the fact remains they have equalled Sydney and Fremantle as the only 0-8 teams in the past 15 years.

The two options available to most clubs in such a predicament would seem closed off.

Richmond won't sack its coach and won't be able to trade off a host of its established players as Hawthorn did recently to bring together young talent in a cohesive group.

The coach has another two years left on his contract, and there simply aren't the Jon Hay/Nathan Thompson equivalents to garner interest elsewhere.

The answer lies in recruiting and it is here that a novel idea might be the solution.

Publicity craving John Ilhan (above), of Crazy John's fame, was at it again on The Footy Show on Thursday, forecasting his intention to move on to the Richmond board and eventually become president.

Here is another idea, John.

Why not put your money where your mouth is and cough up $500,000 a year to sponsor an expanded Richmond recruiting department and give the Tigers a legitimate chance to build through the kids?

Those juniors were on show on Friday - rookie elevations Nathan Foley, Jake King, Will Thursfield and a revelation in first-year midfielder Shane Edwards.

But there is no point in having emerging kids - you need more than your rivals or you just stagnate.

Collingwood, which is today unveiling its fifth first-gamer of the year, spent $787,000 on its recruiting last year compared with Richmond's $150,000.

That figure doesn't include Greg Miller's salary, but it is a woefully inadequate sum.

Call the kids Crazy John's Cubs, or Crazy John's Young Guns, but think of the goodwill engendered when another late pick or rookie begins to flourish.

You can bet Collingwood, which even has a sponsor for Eddie McGuire and boasts it will soon be a $100 million-a-year business, will only be expanding its recruiting budget.

The new frontier of recruiting is scouring international destinations, hiring a battery of recruiters, spending vast sums on developing interstate potential and honing rookie talent.

Desperate measures call for desperate solutions and Richmond needs something drastic to ensure it is not a middle-of-the-road side for another quarter of a century.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21761341%255E19742,00.html

Excellent article Jon Ralph - hit the nail on the head

fact of the matter is that the business I run has the same dollar turnover as the RFC. Running a business isnt hard if you have strategy and leaders who know what there doing
I still trying to work out how young Cleve Hughes got dropped.?
Can anyone here answer that please ?

What has Cleve Hughes being dropped got to do with the business side of the Club? One would hope absolutely nothing

I have no doubt that at the RFC there is a business strategy (plan) and a football department strategy. To ensure that the footy side is achievable the business side of things needs to be stable and productive. The reality is that the business side of the Club is now very strong (eg the financial side). Mr Crazy coming on board is not going to change that. The hard work on that front has already been done