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Title: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: one-eyed on June 14, 2007, 03:51:45 AM
As the topic says - Who needs a strong showing over the next 11 weeks to remain at Punt Road?

Thoughts?


Out of curiosity, these were our thoughts this time last year:
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=3367.0
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: retygas on June 14, 2007, 08:38:29 AM
Not that up here we get to see many Richmond matches, which sucks. But from what I have seen it has to be Kane Johnson and Richard Tambling. Of what I have seen neither of these two have their hearts in the Tigers. They seem to be more for themselves. But like I have said I haven't seen many matches here. But most definitly Johnson has to go or turn over the job he's got. :gotigers
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: wayne on June 14, 2007, 08:47:00 AM
Anyone under 21 is going to be safe in my opinion.

Schulz could become trade bait.

I think players to go will be Knobel, Krakouer, P. Bowden, Kingsley.
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: {X} on June 14, 2007, 09:09:35 AM
Not that up here we get to see many Richmond matches, which sucks. But from what I have seen it has to be Kane Johnson and Richard Tambling. Of what I have seen neither of these two have their hearts in the Tigers. They seem to be more for themselves. But like I have said I haven't seen many matches here. But most definitly Johnson has to go or turn over the job he's got. :gotigers

think u r totally wrong about both sugar and blingers

sugars heart is for teh tigers, just his abliity isnt good enough

and blingers shows more passion on the field and desire than deledio, havent you seen whenever blingers kicks a goal how he tries to lift his team mates, and he has shown enough this yr to prove he is a definate future leader
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: Life goes on on June 14, 2007, 09:44:29 AM
Would say the coach :lol
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: Gordon Bennett on June 14, 2007, 10:12:09 AM
1.Gas - gone
2.Hall- gone, apparently
3.Knobel - mainly due to the degenerative nature of injury
4. Hartigan

Next in line:
5. Moore - thought he was safe 6 weeks ago
6. Krak
7.Kingsley

I think 7 will be as many as they'll deduct, giving them room for the possibility, before trades, of picks 1, 17, 18, 34, PSD pick 1 (youngish ruckman), plus elevation of King and Howat from the rookie list.

Question marks also over their future plans for P.Bowden and Meyer
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: bluey_21 on June 14, 2007, 01:24:17 PM
Would say the coach :lol

True, but would have to consider the costs of dumping him at seasons end  :banghead
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: torch on June 14, 2007, 02:44:35 PM
Hall
Tivendale
Tuck
Kingsley
Hartigan
Moore
Knobel
Krakouer
Hyde

either out, trade, delist !
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: bluey_21 on June 14, 2007, 02:55:20 PM
Hall
Tivendale
Tuck
Kingsley
Hartigan
Moore
Knobel
Krakouer
Hyde

either out, trade, delist !


Looking at that list the only way we are going to get rid of them is by delisting  :banghead
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: blaisee on June 14, 2007, 04:06:01 PM
Lets see

KK
Hall
Gas
Krak
Moore
Hartigan
Knob

Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: Gracie on June 14, 2007, 06:22:41 PM
Kingsley may have some value depending on how he finishes the year. A team like the Kangaroos may be looking to bolster their forward line or even the WC. You just never know
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: mightytiges on June 14, 2007, 07:00:29 PM
Gas - retired
Hall - retire (due to hip injury)
Knobel - retire/delist (due to ankle injury)
Hartigan - delist
Moore - delist
Krak - trade if not delist

Tuck, Meyer, Schulz, Hyde, Kingsley, Jacko, Howat, Graham are still in the iffy bracket for various reasons (some due to form, others thier skills are not up to it)

I think 7 will be as many as they'll deduct, giving them room for the possibility, before trades, of picks 1, 17, 18, 34, PSD pick 1 (youngish ruckman), plus elevation of King and Howat from the rookie list.
I think you're right GB about 7 maybe 8 with trades will get the heave-ho. I'm not sure if Howat is that safe being so one-sided.

Gus' 2nd year on the rookie list is up as well. His future may depend on who is on offer during trade week and the drafts. If we pick up a young ruckman in the PSD (Meesen?) like you've got there GB then you'd think we'll let Gus go.
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: retygas on June 14, 2007, 08:27:17 PM
Like I said xXx we don't get many game of Richmond here. I think we have had 2 games in total so my selections are uneducated. But I will stick with Johnson Send him packing. I'm going by what I have read on this site mostly. But its hard to send in boys to do a mans job, which we are doing.  :gotigers
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: bluey_21 on June 14, 2007, 09:18:08 PM
I say shop Meyer and Schulz around, might be the kick up the arse they need
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 14, 2007, 09:47:25 PM
I reckon there are the obvious ones -like Krak, Hartigan and Moore.

I think Meyer is the one that needs to show something. Out of the 5 we got in 2004 (Lids, Bling, Patto & Polo being the others) Meyer to me has been the most disappointing/frustrating
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: mightytiges on June 14, 2007, 10:54:13 PM
I think Meyer is the one that needs to show something. Out of the 5 we got in 2004 (Lids, Bling, Patto & Polo being the others) Meyer to me has been the most disappointing/frustrating
Thankfully no Fantastic Five talk this year.
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: DallasCrane on June 14, 2007, 11:30:59 PM
I would hate to see Danny Meyer do well at another club, especially if it was an SA one  :banghead
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: bluey_21 on June 15, 2007, 03:49:24 PM
I would hate to see Danny Meyer do well at another club, especially if it was an SA one  :banghead

That's what Weaver said on Bigfooty, he is a talented kid but needs a kick up the arse to make him realise the talent he is. Weaver reckons if we shop him around and no one takes him, it might be the thing he needs to start working hard.

Has the talent, needs the ethic
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: mightytiges on June 15, 2007, 09:52:15 PM
I would hate to see Danny Meyer do well at another club, especially if it was an SA one  :banghead

That's what Weaver said on Bigfooty, he is a talented kid but needs a kick up the behind to make him realise the talent he is. Weaver reckons if we shop him around and no one takes him, it might be the thing he needs to start working hard.

Has the talent, needs the ethic
Let's hope so bluey. It would be a waste of talent. Playing at HF you can't expect your teammates to always put the ball on a plate for you to show off that talent. Took Petts a few years to learn that too. It'll be interesting to see if Danny does better this weekend if Coburg has a good win.
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 16, 2007, 11:17:17 AM
That's what Weaver said on Bigfooty, he is a talented kid but needs a kick up the behind to make him realise the talent he is. Weaver reckons if we shop him around and no one takes him, it might be the thing he needs to start working hard.

Has the talent, needs the ethic

I reckon Weaver has a point; problem is that if he was to be "shopped around" I reckon a SA based Club would snap him up
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: bluey_21 on June 16, 2007, 02:35:52 PM
That's what Weaver said on Bigfooty, he is a talented kid but needs a kick up the behind to make him realise the talent he is. Weaver reckons if we shop him around and no one takes him, it might be the thing he needs to start working hard.

Has the talent, needs the ethic

I reckon Weaver has a point; problem is that if he was to be "shopped around" I reckon a SA based Club would snap him up

See your point there, but Weaver begs to differ, reckons that there wasn't any real interest in him by SA clubs on draft day.And seeing as he is yet to really do anything he can't see how things are different now.
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: bluey_21 on June 16, 2007, 02:38:44 PM
Also, I reckon we are a real show to snap up Meesen in the PSD.

He is out of contract and would be desparate just to play AFL.

Chuck him a healthy 2-3 year contract and tell him he will be given every opportunity to play.

Also hear he was a Tiger supporter when he was young.
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: mightytiges on June 16, 2007, 07:05:54 PM
Also, I reckon we are a real show to snap up Meesen in the PSD.

He is out of contract and would be desparate just to play AFL.

Chuck him a healthy 2-3 year contract and tell him he will be given every opportunity to play.

Also hear he was a Tiger supporter when he was young.
But we're considering wasting our PSD pick on Charman  :help.
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: bluey_21 on June 17, 2007, 04:28:06 PM
Also, I reckon we are a real show to snap up Meesen in the PSD.

He is out of contract and would be desparate just to play AFL.

Chuck him a healthy 2-3 year contract and tell him he will be given every opportunity to play.

Also hear he was a Tiger supporter when he was young.
But we're considering wasting our PSD pick on Charman  :help.

Please no   :pray

He is past it IMO and is certainly not what we need
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: one-eyed on July 01, 2007, 05:01:57 AM
10 weeks to save their careers
01 July 2007   Sunday Herald Sun
Jon Ralph

THE end-of-season broom is bearing down on the fringe dwellers at your AFL club. With less than half a season to go, can they avoid being swept out the door?

RICHMOND

Kent Kingsley is in the classic crunch-time position: perform or else.

Injuries and political pressure have conspired to put the heat on the Geelong cast-off, who is not the only Tiger in trouble.

Trent Knobel and Ray Hall have both had injury-plagued seasons, but if the Tigers get ruck prodigy Matthew Kreuzer will that be enough to force their hand on their back-up rucks?

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21994209%255E19771,00.html
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: bluey_21 on July 01, 2007, 08:32:45 AM
wow, that's not a great deal of players to sweep away from the bottom team
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: mightytiges on July 01, 2007, 09:32:08 PM
wow, that's not a great deal of players to sweep away from the bottom team
Yep they just went for the obvious starting candidates with us. Knobel and Razor will probably retire due to chronic injury before getting the axe.
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: mightytiges on July 13, 2007, 01:07:42 PM
A reporter asked David King if Schulz has a big 8 weeks in front of him and King agreed. Nothing earth-shattering but only confirms Sarge is in the gun to show something or he is in trouble.
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: bluey_21 on July 13, 2007, 02:33:12 PM
last week was a good first step for sarge
Title: Re: Who needs a strong second half of the season to remain on our list?
Post by: mightytiges on July 13, 2007, 02:46:33 PM
last week was a good first step for sarge
Yep but he needs to bring that work ethic to AFL level too on Sunday.