One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on July 12, 2007, 05:15:32 PM
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In: K. Moore, C. Hyde, B. Hartigan, L. McGuane, J. Schulz
Out: B. Deledio (hand), M. White
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Richmond
B: J. Bowden Thursfield King
HB: Raines Polak Newman
C: Tambling Tuck Tivendale
HF: Howat Richardson Pettifer
F: Edwards Brown Simmonds
R: Pattison Johnson Foley
Int (from): Hyde, Hartigan, McGuane, Moore, Riewoldt, Schulz, Jackson
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In: K. Moore, C. Hyde, B. Hartigan, L. McGuane, J. Schulz
Out: B. Deledio (hand), M. White
No surprises with the changes. Harts is probably a certainty. The other 4 vying for the final spot in the side.
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mguane and jay will miss out
shame meyer wasnt in the mix
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mguane and jay will miss out
I've got a feeling too that Moore will come in.
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moore and schulz in IMO
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mguane and jay will miss out
I've got a feeling too that Moore will come in.
gr8 minds must think alike
moore in to play on buddy i reckon, has the pace and height
and as i said, luke and jay will miss out :thumbsup
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moore and schulz in IMO
No wonder we have only won one game when we play these duds ::)
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Harts is a certainty. :thumbsup
Why would you take two little guys(White and Lids) and replace them with two big guys(Schulz and Moore)??
So Harts and Mcguane I reckon.
Although wouldnt surprise me if the Tiges pull Jack out and throw in Schulz. :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Hawthorn
B: Guerra Gilham Ladson
HB: Birchall Croad Brown
C: Young Mitchell Smith
HF: Dixon Franklin Crawford
F: Hodge Roughead Bateman
R: Campbell Sewell Lewis
Int (from): Ellis, Jacobs, McGlynn, Taylor, Thorp, Thurgood, Tuck
In: Dixon, Thorp, Tuck
New: Mitch Thorp, 18, Tasmania, Travis Tuck, 19, Dandenong
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moore and schulz in IMO
No wonder we have only won one game when we play these duds ::)
how many games have these duds actually played ::)
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RICHMOND
B: King, Thursfield, J.Bowden
HB: Raines, Polak, Newman
C: Tambling, Tuck, Tivendale
HF: Pettifer, Richardson, Howat
F: Edwards, Brown, Simmonds
FOLL: Pattison, Johnson, Foley
I/C: Hyde, Hartigan, Schulz, Jackson
EM: Moore, McGuane, Riewoldt
IN: Hyde, Hartigan, Schulz
OUT: Deledio (hand), White, Riewoldt
HAWTHORN
B: Ladson, Gilham, Guerra
HB: Brown, Croad, Birchall
C: Smith, Mitchell, Young
HF: Dixon, Franklin, Crawford
F: Hodge, Roughead, Bateman
FOLL: Campbell, Sewell, Lewis
I/C: Taylor, Ellis, Thorp, McGlynn
EM: Tuck, Jacobs, Thurgood
IN: Dixon, Thorp
OUT: Jacobs, Thurgood
FIELD UMPIRES: Stevic, Grun, Goldspink
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IN: Hyde, Hartigan, Schulz
OUT: Deledio (hand), White, Riewoldt
"whose on the chopping block" week going by those ins :yep. Not much use to Jack though - one game in then out again :-\.
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moore and schulz in IMO
No wonder we have only won one game when we play these duds ::)
how many games have these duds actually played ::)
Schultz about 8 this year I reckon and Moore about 5, that probably 8 and 5 games tooo many
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IN: Hyde, Hartigan, Schulz
OUT: Deledio (hand), White, Riewoldt
"whose on the chopping block" week going by those ins :yep. Not much use to Jack though - one game in then out again :-\.
Am tipping Riewodlt would be a bit psissed off
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thats bs, jack riewoldt had some really good touches last week and showed a bit, he deserved another go, yet f ups like tiv sugar tuck and raines are still there!!!!!!
terry is either stuffing up really bad or we really are tanking
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Fairly ordinary decision to drop Jack.
Maybe they have told him that they want to give Sarge his last chance. Still pee poor though.
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Although wouldnt surprise me if the Tiges pull Jack out and throw in Schulz. :banghead :banghead :banghead
Just to recap . . . . .
:banghead :banghead :banghead
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moore and schulz in IMO
No wonder we have only won one game when we play these duds ::)
how many games have these duds actually played ::)
Schultz about 8 this year I reckon and Moore about 5, that probably 8 and 5 games tooo many
Close enough. 9 and 4. Sarge played the first 8 weeks and then against Brissy. Moore first 3 rounds and the Geelong game.
We're clearly playing the blokes on a knife-edge. Last chance for all of them and they're probably only getting another chance because this upcoming draft lacks depth. Some of them playing AFL may also help us come trade week.
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It's all very well to say they're duds and why are we playing them.
If we can get some good games out of them in the last couple of rounds, they may not be a total loss, even if it's just trade value.
What is to be gained otherwise if we leave them in the seconds to finish their careers at the club?
Nothing.
So why not play them? You try all avenues to get value out of your list. You don't just say bye-bye and not try and extract some interest from other clubs. If they fail, so be it, but at least to me it's good management to play them. I think Schulz is capable of playing some good games and might be another one that comes on at another club given a second chance. Prefer it was at Richmond, but it ain't happening.
Riewoldt's not going anywhere (as in head on chopping block, not his form) and it's not as if our existence in this competition matters if he plays or not. He'll still gain valuable experience at Coburg!
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People are dreaming if you think that Schultz and Moore are trade value. Reality is that they wouldnt get a game at another AFL club.
If you cant get a game with the bottom team, how on earth are you going to get a game elsewhere.
Have said from early this year the kids should have been played from day 1. Reiwoldt should be played in successive weeks to get his confidence up, not to be dropped back and forth ::)
McGaune, JON,Meyer, Play them and see where they are at.
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Can tell you for a fact that Jack's confidence is shot by his treatment as in one in, one out.
Absolute disgrace.
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Can tell you for a fact that Jack's confidence is shot by his treatment as in one in, one out.
Absolute disgrace.
Then he needs to grow up.
He's not a seasoned veteran to go all sooky sooky la-la ala Gaspar. He's a kid starting out and really has no entitlement or earned a ready-made position in the team.
Great, we have recruited a prima donna! ::)
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Can tell you for a fact that Jack's confidence is shot by his treatment as in one in, one out.
Absolute disgrace.
could say the same for hawkins ::)
in one week out the next ;)
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Can tell you for a fact that Jack's confidence is shot by his treatment as in one in, one out.
Absolute disgrace.
Then he needs to grow up.
He's not a seasoned veteran to go all sooky sooky la-la ala Gaspar. He's a kid starting out and really has no entitlement or earned a ready-made position in the team.
Great, we have recruited a prima donna! ::)
He is only 18, fair go ::)
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Can tell you for a fact that Jack's confidence is shot by his treatment as in one in, one out.
Absolute disgrace.
Then he needs to grow up.
He's not a seasoned veteran to go all sooky sooky la-la ala Gaspar. He's a kid starting out and really has no entitlement or earned a ready-made position in the team.
Great, we have recruited a prima donna! ::)
He is only 18, fair go ::)
Precisely my point. Plenty of time for him to make the grade, but not much time for the other two to show some worth. You don't think if there was some minute chance we could get something in return for those two that it wouldn't be worth the effort?
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Never said he was sooking about it.
It does nothing for his confindence to be dropped after one game, it doesnt send the right message to all players when it happens.
Shultz played one half decent game at Coburg and he is straight in.
This has been a problem at Punt Road for a long time and sadly it looks set to continue.
Jack is not going to get any better playing at Coburg, he needs senior games.
He spent most of last year playing VFL for Tassie, he needs games with Richmond so he can continue his development.
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Jack is not going to get any better playing at Coburg, he needs senior games.
Who said he won't get any more this year - a few more games yet.
Make the boy hungry for it!
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People are dreaming if you think that Schultz and Moore are trade value. Reality is that they wouldnt get a game at another AFL club.
If you cant get a game with the bottom team, how on earth are you going to get a game elsewhere.
Moore no way but KPPs always have some trade value. Even the perceived dud ones lol. We're not saying Schulz is worth a first round pick but may get us a higher pick in a swap of picks.
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Schultz is worth nothing,
Is intreverted and doesnt add anything to a team enviroment.
And Moi, if you dont beleive me, go and have chat to him, like speaking to a brick wall.
As for young Jack, as been screwed by Wallace
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Plenty of no-name and "dud" KPPs below from the last 3 years of trades.
2006
Andrew McDougall from West Coast to Bulldogs for Picks #29 and #59
Michael Gardiner and Pick #59 from West Coast Eagles to St Kilda for Pick #43
Graham Polak and Pick #13 from Fremantle to Richmond for Pick #8
2005
Fergus Watts from Adelaide to St. Kilda for Pick #17
Richard Cole from Collingwood to Essendon for Pick #23 (even some non-KP duds are overvalued ;) )
Ted Richards from Essendon to Sydney for Picks #19 & #51
Jonathan Hay from Hawthorn to Kangaroos for Pick #18
Daniel McConnell from West Coast to Kangaroos for Picks #13 & #29
Jade Rawlings from Bulldogs to Kangaroos for Pick #46
Mark Powell from Sydney to Kangaroos for Pick #61
2004
Bo Nixon and Pick #7 from Collingwood to Hawthorn for Picks #10 and #37
Source: Wikipedia
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Lol Jade Rawlings ::)
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Lol Jade Rawlings ::)
whats wrong with jade
he seems to know his stuff and is highly regarded about his coaching talents and he also was a decent player b4 injuries took over.
oh thats right , he works 4 richmond now and u dont........... I GET THE JOKE, JEALOUSY IS A CURSE!!!! :lol
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you better off with an assistant with experience rather than have an assistant with no experience,
How can he be highly regarded by his coaching talents when he hasnt coached before. ::)Take Mick McGaune for example, coached 5 premierships before he went to Richmond and then got a better offer from the saints.
For whats its worth Mick McGaune would eat this bloke as an assistant coach
And the reason Mick isnt an assistant at an AFL club, he is better off doing his radio gig and coaching Balwyn. $$$
Dont know why you keep bringing personal things onto this forum, it has nothing to do with me, i am better off where I am, can tell you that
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Would also believe guys like Ash Prescott, Andy Collins, and TAC coaches would have an advantage .
Anthony Rock coached North Ballarat under 18,s and then went to melb and then the saints.
You have to start somewhere, not go straight to AFL level..
Reckon the tiges have made a mistake having inexperienced coaches invloved at AFL level- eg King and Rawlings.
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Dont know why you keep bringing personal things onto this forum, it has nothing to do with me, i am better off where I am, can tell you that
hmmmmmmm
bit of the case of teh pot calling the kettle black
u have been noth but personal re tery and the tigers all yr
the bombers have experience assistants, and they are crap, sont worry about ladder position, the blues have experience assistants, look at them! so have melb
u r teh one being personal, and u are just gloating and loving it because we are last, wait till next yr and the yr after when all the winnable games we lost this yr we will win next yr
just get off the tigers and terrys case, we all know as supporters where we are at
we could have won 8 games thus far at least this yr with teh luck that the bombers have had! luck has been against us! but our game plan and style of footy hjas been pretty good, just marred by turnovers, we will get better and then its pay back time, but by then u will be hiding
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Dont know why you keep bringing personal things onto this forum, it has nothing to do with me, i am better off where I am, can tell you that
Do your employers know you post on a football forum?
Mine do compliments of a friend of yours on another forum?
And stop calling me "Teach" if you don't like "personal things" brought up.
8)
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Dont know why you keep bringing personal things onto this forum, it has nothing to do with me, i am better off where I am, can tell you that
hmmmmmmm
bit of the case of teh pot calling the kettle black
u have been noth but personal re tery and the tigers all yr
the bombers have experience assistants, and they are crap, sont worry about ladder position, the blues have experience assistants, look at them! so have melb
u r teh one being personal, and u are just gloating and loving it because we are last, wait till next yr and the yr after when all the winnable games we lost this yr we will win next yr
just get off the tigers and terrys case, we all know as supporters where we are at
we could have won 8 games thus far at least this yr with teh luck that the bombers have had! luck has been against us! but our game plan and style of footy hjas been pretty good, just marred by turnovers, we will get better and then its pay back time, but by then u will be hiding
Beautifully said, X - almost brought a tear to my eye :'( lol
One day soon we will come good and when we do .................. ;D............. I'll be here to tell you so hahahaha!
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Plenty of no-name and "dud" KPPs below from the last 3 years of trades.
2006
Andrew McDougall from West Coast to Bulldogs for Picks #29 and #59
Graham Polak and Pick #13 from Fremantle to Richmond for Pick #8
2005
Fergus Watts from Adelaide to St. Kilda for Pick #17
Ted Richards from Essendon to Sydney for Picks #19 & #51
Jonathan Hay from Hawthorn to Kangaroos for Pick #18
Daniel McConnell from West Coast to Kangaroos for Picks #13 & #29
I agree with Jack that Schulz isnt worth alot- to us- but to a SA club they may feel different. This list probably suggest that Schulz could attract something half decent. Especially if its Port Adelaide or Adelaide who seem to need key forwards. Key forwards dont grow on trees, and Rodans experience probably means that Williams feels that he can take a Richmond player and turn him around. Based on that list provided Schulz is valued at between 15 and 20 to a club that needs a key forward.
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Dont know why you keep bringing personal things onto this forum, it has nothing to do with me, i am better off where I am, can tell you that
hmmmmmmm
bit of the case of teh pot calling the kettle black
u have been noth but personal re tery and the tigers all yr
the bombers have experience assistants, and they are crap, sont worry about ladder position, the blues have experience assistants, look at them! so have melb
u r teh one being personal, and u are just gloating and loving it because we are last, wait till next yr and the yr after when all the winnable games we lost this yr we will win next yr
just get off the tigers and terrys case, we all know as supporters where we are at
we could have won 8 games thus far at least this yr with teh luck that the bombers have had! luck has been against us! but our game plan and style of footy hjas been pretty good, just marred by turnovers, we will get better and then its pay back time, but by then u will be hiding
Beautifully said, X - almost brought a tear to my eye :'( lol
One day soon we will come good and when we do .................. ;D............. I'll be here to tell you so hahahaha!
thanx moi. but my spelling and grammar need some attention lol
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Dont know why you keep bringing personal things onto this forum, it has nothing to do with me, i am better off where I am, can tell you that
hmmmmmmm
bit of the case of teh pot calling the kettle black
u have been noth but personal re tery and the tigers all yr
the bombers have experience assistants, and they are crap, sont worry about ladder position, the blues have experience assistants, look at them! so have melb
u r teh one being personal, and u are just gloating and loving it because we are last, wait till next yr and the yr after when all the winnable games we lost this yr we will win next yr
just get off the tigers and terrys case, we all know as supporters where we are at
we could have won 8 games thus far at least this yr with teh luck that the bombers have had! luck has been against us! but our game plan and style of footy hjas been pretty good, just marred by turnovers, we will get better and then its pay back time, but by then u will be hiding
Beautifully said, X - almost brought a tear to my eye :'( lol
One day soon we will come good and when we do .................. ;D............. I'll be here to tell you so hahahaha!
thanx moi. but my spelling and grammar need some attention lol
Grammar is overrated, X. Some ppls have beautiful grammar but talk shiit ;)
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nice one moi! best post i have read in ages!!! so true!
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nice one moi! best post i have read in ages!!! so true!
Great post :thumbsup