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Richmond coach unsure despite contract
July 24, 2007 - 4:10PM
The Age & Sportal
Terry Wallace has admitted that he may not get to complete his five-year contract as Richmond coach.
After posting respectable mid-table finishes in his first two years in charge, the Tigers have slumped to last spot on the ladder with just one victory and seem certain to claim the wooden spoon.
Wallace's position seems safe enough for now, with no suggestion that he will join Carlton's Denis Pagan, Fremantle's Chris Connolly and Melbourne's Neale Daniher on the outer this year.
But the situation could be markedly different in 12 months' time if the Tigers have not shown significant on-field improvement.
In the current unstable coaching climate, Wallace said he was not "twitchy" about his position and said he planned on fulfilling his part of the deal.
"I'm not getting twitchy but it's always disappointing when you see guys and you know and understand what they go through on a regular basis," Wallace said at his weekly press conference on Tuesday.
"My promise was when I came here that we were going to re-align the footy club in relation to developing our own players for the future rather than trading them in from outside," Wallace said.
"That's the pathway that I've put in place and that's the pathway I'll continue to go down until I get a tap on the shoulder and (I'm told) `that's not your job to do any more'.
"All you can do is, you've made a pledge and you just stand by your pledge."
Wallace said he hoped the Richmond board would honour his contract which runs until the end of 2009, while adding "that's not always the case in football as we know".
"I think that all of us knows that our time comes and it comes and goes and from where I am situated I'm just getting on with my job," he said.
"I think it goes through waves. This was always going to be a fairly unusual year when we had so many coaches close to the end of contract or coming out of contract.
"There was probably a little bit more stability in the previous few years.
"Going through the history it's always gone in crests and waves.
"I suppose that's one of the reasons why this football club - it wasn't just me, it was this football club - decided when I first started that they wanted a long term contract so we could try to realign the club to where we wanted to go."
Wallace's 'pathway' is enduring a pear-shaped third season as the Tigers languish in last position with a solitary win and the Richmond coach is concerned that the season may peter out.
"Clearly the three sides down the bottom of the ladder performed really poorly on the weekend," Wallace said.
"Has their season come to an end? Have they thrown in the towel? It's absolutely fair to speculate that, we're pretty keen as a group [to ensure] that that's not the case."
Wallace said that while it appeared Richmond was down and out on the field, it was actually progressing.
"What we can re-assure them [Richmond fans] is that we're heading in a direction and we haven't changed from the direction we want to head," he said.
"Sometimes you look like you're going backwards at 100 miles an hour when you're actually marching forwards.
"Those who are privy to what we are trying to achieve internally are confident that we are going forward.
"Those on the outside probably see us that we're going backwards."
Meanwhile, Wallace believes the AFL should address the current system which sees clubs benefit from finishing in the lower reaches of the ladder, although the Tigers coach admits he isn't sure what can be done about it.
"When I was a young person watching games, ninth position was better than twelfth position and that was the way that it was back in those days," explained Wallace.
"It's not necessarily that way now and I don't know whether that's a great thing."
http://news.realfooty.com.au/richmond-coach-unsure-despite-contract/20075424-phz.html
http://sportal.com.au/default.aspx/afl-news-display/no-extra-pressure-on-plough-31862
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Terry admitting that he mighten get to complete his 5 year contract ::)
Terry knows he wont get to complete his 5 year contract , the plot thickens doesnt people.
I reckon the number 3 has a nice sound to it.
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Here's audio of Terry's press conference courtesy of Sportal. He was with Newy and Simmo.
http://sportal.com.au/default.aspx/mediaplayer/audio/AFL/tuesday-with-terry-391 (http://sportal.com.au/default.aspx/mediaplayer/audio/AFL/tuesday-with-terry-391)
Terry Wallace also talks up assistant Brian Royal as a candidate for a senior coaching vacancy
http://sportal.com.au/default.aspx/mediaplayer/audio/AFL/terry-wallace-on-brian-royal-392 (http://sportal.com.au/default.aspx/mediaplayer/audio/AFL/terry-wallace-on-brian-royal-392)
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Tigers dismiss tank talk
4:53 PM Tue 24 July, 2007
By Catherine Murphy
richmondfc.com.au
TIGERS ruckman Troy Simmonds says he finds talk about his team tanking “offensive”.
“Every time you step out on to the field, it’s a competitive game and you want to win and that group of players (the Tigers) want to win every game,” Simmonds says.
“There’s no talk of tanking whatsoever. We’re coming up against some quality opposition (in the next few weeks) and I think it’s a great chance to show that if we’re coming up against the Sydneys and the Geelongs, West Coast over in Perth, and we come up with some good footy, it will certainly back up what I’m saying.”
Tigers’ coach Terry Wallace echoed Simmonds sentiments and said the current system of allocating draft picks should be changed.
“I’ve said before that the system at the moment isn’t the way I’d like to see it,” Wallace said.
“When I was a young person watching games, ninth position was better than 12th position and that was the way that it was back in those days. It’s certainly not that way now and I’m not sure that’s a great thing.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=47902
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when u talk up that u r not tanking and try and conviince all that u r trying,,,,,,,,,thats enough proof to suggest u r tanking!
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http://sportal.com.au/default.aspx/mediaplayer/audio/AFL/tuesday-with-terry-391 (http://sportal.com.au/default.aspx/mediaplayer/audio/AFL/tuesday-with-terry-391)
Terry Wallace also talks up assistant Brian Royal as a candidate for a senior coaching vacancy
http://sportal.com.au/default.aspx/mediaplayer/audio/AFL/terry-wallace-on-brian-royal-392 (http://sportal.com.au/default.aspx/mediaplayer/audio/AFL/terry-wallace-on-brian-royal-392)
Unfortunately or should I say fortunately, he will never be a senior coach, nice bloke, nice blokes dont make good coaches.
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when u talk up that u r not tanking and try and conviince all that u r trying,,,,,,,,,thats enough proof to suggest u r tanking!
:yep
If there's no tanking then why does everyone suggest there's a problem with the draft system.
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Plough in the audio clip said he knew when he signed up that it would take a couple of years before the Club's finances would be in a position to help improve the footy department in terms of say another recruiting officer or assistant coach or development coach. They ask the players what they need.
Wallace also said as an example of our side moving forward, our young backline is very different to the experienced one we had last year which included oldies such as Gas, Chubba and Chaffey.
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Terry admitting that he mighten get to complete his 5 year contract ::)
Terry knows he wont get to complete his 5 year contract , the plot thickens doesnt people.
I reckon the number 3 has a nice sound to it.
"He knows" ::) ::) - gee there's a statement ;D
As I have said many times he aint going anywhere unless there is a cowardly coup by the faceless ones
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Terry admitting that he mighten get to complete his 5 year contract ::)
Terry knows he wont get to complete his 5 year contract , the plot thickens doesnt people.
I reckon the number 3 has a nice sound to it.
"He knows" ::) ::) - gee there's a statement ;D
As I have said many times he aint going anywhere unless there is a cowardly coup by the faceless ones
wp, what i wanna know is why cant jack back up his statements. as i read it, yerry just said something pretty obvious, be in the bottom next yr and im gone. he based that statement on whats happened in the last 3 weeks , with 3 coaches moving on.
but jack say "he knows" as if jack "knows " something. back it up jack
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Terry admitting that he mighten get to complete his 5 year contract ::)
Terry knows he wont get to complete his 5 year contract , the plot thickens doesnt people.
I reckon the number 3 has a nice sound to it.
"He knows" ::) ::) - gee there's a statement ;D
As I have said many times he aint going anywhere unless there is a cowardly coup by the faceless ones
wp, what i wanna know is why cant jack back up his statements. as i read it, yerry just said something pretty obvious, be in the bottom next yr and im gone. he based that statement on whats happened in the last 3 weeks , with 3 coaches moving on.
but jack say "he knows" as if jack "knows " something. back it up jack
mate, whats the point.
Its quiet obvious that Terry is now uncertain where his career is.
He knows it wont go the 5 years.
At the end of the day, if the RFC was run like a business, he would of been out the door along with Pagan , Connelly and Daniher.
ONE win from 16 games is hardly good enough.
Unfortunately the RFC is a ""mates club"" with Gary March being too close to Wallace which in turn will bring around his downfall as well.
The will be no cowardly coup.
You might find he might have had enough
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Terry admitting that he mighten get to complete his 5 year contract ::)
Terry knows he wont get to complete his 5 year contract , the plot thickens doesnt people.
I reckon the number 3 has a nice sound to it.
"He knows" ::) ::) - gee there's a statement ;D
As I have said many times he aint going anywhere unless there is a cowardly coup by the faceless ones
wp, what i wanna know is why cant jack back up his statements. as i read it, yerry just said something pretty obvious, be in the bottom next yr and im gone. he based that statement on whats happened in the last 3 weeks , with 3 coaches moving on.
but jack say "he knows" as if jack "knows " something. back it up jack
The will be no cowardly coup.
You might find he might have had enough
has he told you he has had enough? or are you just speculating
take this scenario
season 2008
tigers have a full and great preseason with no issues/injuries
players like snake and coghs are fit and firing from day 1
brown is fit and firing from day 1
polak really starts to dominate at chb
lids and tambling come into their own
jack and cleve improve out of site aka t cloke this yr
rfc win the games that they nearly won in 2007/should have won in 2007
we finish top 8
this can all happen, say it does
will terry coach his 5th yr? i think so
will u assume terry may have had enough? i think not
just remember, every yr, someone has to finish last or down teh bottom end, this yr, rfc & mfc both had disastrous starts due to injury, hardly either coaches fault
u just hate terry and its not half obvious
and about march and terry, its a good thing they get along, but march did not emply terry when terry started!
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Terry admitting that he mighten get to complete his 5 year contract ::)
Terry knows he wont get to complete his 5 year contract , the plot thickens doesnt people.
I reckon the number 3 has a nice sound to it.
"He knows" ::) ::) - gee there's a statement ;D
As I have said many times he aint going anywhere unless there is a cowardly coup by the faceless ones
wp, what i wanna know is why cant jack back up his statements. as i read it, yerry just said something pretty obvious, be in the bottom next yr and im gone. he based that statement on whats happened in the last 3 weeks , with 3 coaches moving on.
but jack say "he knows" as if jack "knows " something. back it up jack
The will be no cowardly coup.
You might find he might have had enough
has he told you he has had enough? or are you just speculating
take this scenario
season 2008
tigers have a full and great preseason with no issues/injuries
players like snake and coghs are fit and firing from day 1
brown is fit and firing from day 1
polak really starts to dominate at chb
lids and tambling come into their own
jack and cleve improve out of site aka t cloke this yr
rfc win the games that they nearly won in 2007/should have won in 2007
we finish top 8
this can all happen, say it does
will terry coach his 5th yr? i think so
will u assume terry may have had enough? i think not
just remember, every yr, someone has to finish last or down teh bottom end, this yr, rfc & mfc both had disastrous starts due to injury, hardly either coaches fault
u just hate terry and its not half obvious
and about march and terry, its a good thing they get along, but march did not emply terry when terry started!
Lets see xXx
Lets start with Cogs, was offered for trade to Freo at the end last year BUT HE changed his mind and didnt want to go, FACT. He has poor kicking skills, will never get back to the player he was.
Nathan Brown is 29 years old and has had a very serious injury, will never be the player he was unfortuneately, lucky to be playing now.
Polak has played like ""Jason Cloke"" for the past 10 weeks, lets see how he goes when he is made accountable
Lids. needs to be alot stronger at the ball, will be great player though
Tambling. I like Richie although he will struggle, has little confidence in his own ablilty thus his poor performances at times.
Can tell you Cleve will never be any where as good as Travis Cloke. Travis Cloke was a standout in his under 18 year. Would have been easy first round if there wasnt the father and son rule.
As for hating Terry, no not all . Im my opinion he continually talks crap and people beleive him , good for you ,the people who beleive him.
I would think that Terry coaching has been ordinary at the best this year . He started off on thr wrong foot by training the guts out of players thus having a big injury list at the start of the year, his problem , he is the coach. Dont see Paul Roos having injuries before the first game, Oh yeah thats right,
Terry blamed the drought ::)
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The will be no cowardly coup.
You might find he might have had enough
What Crazy has changed his mind?
The "Executive" have changed their mind?
After only yesterday when he said he wouldn't walk away from the deal he made, he's going to at the end of the year say I'm going?
What a tangled web of intrigue this year has been ::)
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The will be no cowardly coup.
You might find he might have had enough
What Crazy has changed his mind?
The "Executive" have changed their mind?
After only yesterday when he said he wouldn't walk away from the deal he made, he's going to at the end of the year say I'm going?
What a tangled web of intrigue this year has been ::)
It is actually.
I reckon he admitting that he mighten see out his 5 years is of great interest
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The will be no cowardly coup.
You might find he might have had enough
What Crazy has changed his mind?
The "Executive" have changed their mind?
After only yesterday when he said he wouldn't walk away from the deal he made, he's going to at the end of the year say I'm going?
What a tangled web of intrigue this year has been ::)
It is actually.
I reckon he admitting that he mighten see out his 5 years is of great interest
But not from his end, he said he would honour the deal he made!
So it has to be getting that tap on the shoulder from Gary who you say Terry and him are great mates?
Or Gary March will stand down and no coup just a transition with Crazy coming in?
That I find unlikely.
Which scenario is it, Jack?
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this is the likely scenio.
honeymoon is over from the boards point of view.
Pressure will be put on Coach to restructure. Coach wont like the changes suggested ala ( Dennis P with Barry Mitchell)?
Coach could possibly walk.
Might also add current game plan hasnt been understood or embraced by playing group and players have lost focus.- Team is not tanking but players dont care or embrace game plan, (WHICH IS OBVIOUS)
I think the Crazy John thing WONT happen as I know Gary wants to keep his position.. He loves the Tiges and will make hard decisions if need be.
He is under huge pressure by sponsors as well. If onfield performance doesnt improve or doesnt seem to be improving, this places the club at huge risk of losing sponsors.
You might find we wont get many Friday nite games in the future due to our poor performance this year. This will make a huge impact to the $$$$$$
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Jack, you've been saying all year - and might I say, you've destroyed my year in footy personally because of these statements - that Sheeds is coming back to Richmond.
Now these statements were made well before the poor performances and before any need for Gary to say we need to restructure.
You've also insinuated Crazy is coming and now you don't think it will happen if Gary decides to stay.
And now you say the coup is off.
If Terry leaves because he has an argument over them forcing him to have a restructure, so be it, I will be very disappointed in him. But your statements, your winking, your hinting has been anything from this scenario.
You now seem to be backing away from all of that, which is driving a few ppl here a bit crazy, for good reason. There is something underhanded going on, something which a very few are privy to, and the members are left high and dry as usual, sitting back waiting for faceless people or whatever to do what they're going to do, whatever that may be.
Do you see how some people could be a bit frustrated with all this?
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Jack, you've been saying all year - and might I say, you've destroyed my year in footy personally because of these statements - that Sheeds is coming back to Richmond.
Now these statements were made well before the poor performances and before any need for Gary to say we need to restructure.
You've also insinuated Crazy is coming and now you don't think it will happen if Gary decides to stay.
And now you say the coup is off.
If Terry leaves because he has an argument over them forcing him to have a restructure, so be it, I will be very disappointed in him. But your statements, your winking, your hinting has been anything from this scenario.
You now seem to be backing away from all of that, which is driving a few ppl here a bit crazy, for good reason. There is something underhanded going on, something which a very few are privy to, and the members are left high and dry as usual, sitting back waiting for faceless people or whatever to do what they're going to do, whatever that may be.
Do you see how some people could be a bit frustrated with all this?
This Crazy John thing is real.
Although the club wont let this happen though ( as WP has said)
IF they club dont change things, the Crazy John thing will happen. Gary March will make changes . If you asked him 3 months ago, he would have said no changes required. - Thus his meeting with Gary Cameron and others.
If Sheeds does come back to Punt Road, 10,000 members extra means $1,000,000.
Can tell you Sheeds would love to come back. An bring RICHMOND people back to the club that will install passion in the club, not the lame attempt of CRUNCH BALLS and other crap thats been happening.
Terry has to restructure and face the music, the club CANNOT have 2008 as a failure onfield. there is too much at stake!
Lets just see what happpens shall we.
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Sheedy has been sacked, stay tuned
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Well, that is a more honest scenario than winking and hinting all year, Jack.
Congratulations in being open about that :thumbsup
The Richmond fans deserve better, because we don't deserve the instability that innuendo and whispers behind the scenes cause.
Those who are behind whatever is happening need to come out now and be honest and open.
I think that's all we ask.
Sheeds will bring more supporters back to the club. But he's got a big job to do to convince those who think he's only at Richmond because he got the sack from his first and most loved choice that he's got the best interests of the club at heart and not just his own.
Kapish!
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he has the best interests of the club
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he has the best interests of the club
But we are his second choice and that will linger over his head.
If he comes, double the criticism you've given Wallace this year.
He will be scrutinised just as much, and given the unfair criticism Terry's had, expect much of the same!
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If sheedy does come he may be able to save the career of a danny meyer...maybe afew others...
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this is the likely scenio.
honeymoon is over from the boards point of view.
So which board members are those Jack ::)
Without trying to be a smart alec - have you spoken to all of them?
So how do you know?
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I think the Crazy John thing WONT happen as I know Gary wants to keep his position.. He loves the Tiges and will make hard decisions if need be.
He is under huge pressure by sponsors as well. If onfield performance doesnt improve or doesnt seem to be improving, this places the club at huge risk of losing sponsors.
You might find we wont get many Friday nite games in the future due to our poor performance this year. This will make a huge impact to the $$$$$$
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At least some sort of common sense has prevailed reagarding Mr Crazy ego
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it is a hard one ...
if we are here next year in the same position ... you would think Terry will get the sack ...
BUT ...
i wouldn't blame Terry ... our playing list have no heart ...
give Terry his 5 years ... don't make the club look worse by sacking Terry because our players have no heart ...
i am convinced that our players (not all) are the major problem ... something isn't right at Richmond and it isn't the coach ...
i am sure supporters know that our players aren't that good ... Terry is probably supporting them as best he can to get the best out of them ... (obviously) ... and if they don't ... they are out the door ...
the only thing that was good about yesterday's conference was that Terry said "players are playing for there positions at this time of year like all other clubs that are struggling" ...
that might be an obvious statement ... but at least i heard and know that there are players on the team that are trying to save there careers and Terry knows it ...
i am sure we all know those players and HOPE they get "THE SACK" ...
though, when he is talking about "heading in the right direction" ... what does he mean ??? ... i can see it from where we are !!! ...
is he talking about our under 22 players getting and playing good football under there belt ??? ...
because that is (direction) i don't understand ???
to me ... "club culture" is changing ... "group of players playing years and matches together" !!!