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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 26, 2007, 12:09:45 PM
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Okay having now seen the draw, how many games do you think we will win next year?
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1 Thursday, Mar 20 (Pub Hol) Carlton MCG Away 6:10 pm 60% chance of winning
2 Sunday, Mar 30 (Sun Twilight) Kangaroos MCG Home 4:40 pm 50%
3 Sunday, Apr 06 (Sun Aft) Collingwood MCG Home 2:10 pm 60%
4 Sunday, Apr 13 (Day) Fremantle Subiaco Away 2:40 pm 20%
5 Sunday, Apr 20 (Sun Aft) Western Bulldogs Telstra Dome Away 2:10 pm 35%
6 Sunday, Apr 27 (Sun Twilight) Hawthorn MCG Away 4:40 pm 30%
7 Saturday, May 03 (Sat Night) St. Kilda Telstra Dome Home 7:10 pm 20%
8 Saturday, May 17 (Sat Aft) Geelong MCG Home 2:10 pm 10%
9 Saturday, May 24 (Sat Night) Essendon MCG Away 7:10 pm 70%
10 Sunday, Jun 01 (Sun Early) Sydney SCG Away 1:10 pm 25%
11 Saturday, Jun 07 (Sat Aft) Adelaide MCG Home 2:10 pm 50%
12 Sunday, Jun 15 (Sun Twilight) Melbourne Telstra Dome Home 4:40 pm 60%
13 Saturday, Jun 21 (Sat Aft) Port Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away 2:40 pm 30%
14 Saturday, Jun 28 (Sat Aft) Carlton MCG Home 2:10 pm 75%
15 Sunday, Jul 13 (Day) West Coast Subiaco Away 2:40 pm 10%
16 Saturday, Jul 19 (Sat Aft) Essendon MCG Home 2:10 pm 65%
17 Saturday, Jul 26 (Sat Night) Brisbane Lions Telstra Dome Home 7:10 pm 60%
18 Saturday, Aug 02 (Sat Night) Geelong Telstra Dome Away 7:10 pm 5%
19 Sunday, Aug 10 (Sun Aft) Adelaide AAMI Stadium Away 2:40 pm 30%
20 Sunday, Aug 17 (Sun Early) Hawthorn MCG Home 1:10 pm 35%
21 Saturday, Aug 23 (Sat Aft) Fremantle MCG Home 2:10 pm 45%
22 Sunday, Aug 31 (Sun Aft) Melbourne MCG Away 2:10 pm 60%
About 800ish% out of 2200%, therefore an average of 36% and a total of 7-8 wins. :rollin
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7 games
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2 maybe 3. essendon and melbourne
we will not beat carlton and thats pretty much a fact.
in a way i hope we only win 3 or 4 so changes can be made and wallace is gone.
im sick and tired of his plugging holes stragedy at this footy club
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we will not beat carlton and thats pretty much a fact.
No, it's not a fact.
Who knows how many we will win. I don't, neither does anyone else. We may get 5 wins, we may get 13 wins. Most likely somewhere in between.Either way, I'll be there supporting the club, not moping around, or wanting to sack everyone, or holding people responsible for things that are out of their control.
There really are some sad people out there. If it makes you so miserable, go and do something else with your time.
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Who knows how many we will win. I don't, neither does anyone else. We may get 5 wins, we may get 13 wins. Most likely somewhere in between.Either way, I'll be there supporting the club, not moping around, or wanting to sack everyone, or holding people responsible for things that are out of their control.
There really are some sad people out there. If it makes you so miserable, go and do something else with your time.
Thats why I went for percentage, I cant name what we will or not, it was easier to say, well what is the chance of this game being a W.
And in the end it went near what I think is realistic for us.
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we will not beat carlton and thats pretty much a fact.
No, it's not a fact.
Who knows how many we will win. I don't, neither does anyone else. We may get 5 wins, we may get 13 wins. Most likely somewhere in between.Either way, I'll be there supporting the club, not moping around, or wanting to sack everyone, or holding people responsible for things that are out of their control.
There really are some sad people out there. If it makes you so miserable, go and do something else with your time.
:thumbsup
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we will not beat carlton and thats pretty much a fact.
No, it's not a fact.
Who knows how many we will win. I don't, neither does anyone else. We may get 5 wins, we may get 13 wins. Most likely somewhere in between.Either way, I'll be there supporting the club, not moping around, or wanting to sack everyone, or holding people responsible for things that are out of their control.
There really are some sad people out there. If it makes you so miserable, go and do something else with your time.
I'm with you Gordon, looking at the draw and trying not to get ahead of myself, but we have a lot of winnable games. By winnable I mean we'll be within striking distance at 3 quarter time.
We weren't far off in a few games last season, all the youngsters will be a year older, it might be enough in some games to get us over the line this time.
Very Winnable Games
Carlton - Yes
Kangaroos - Yes
Collingwood - Yes
Fremantle - No
Western Bulldogs - Yes
Hawthorn - No
St. Kilda - Yes
Geelong - No
Essendon - Yes
Sydney - Yes
Adelaide - Yes
Melbourne - Yes
Port Adelaide - No
Carlton - Yes
West Coast - Yes
Essendon - Yes
Brisbane Lions - Yes
Geelong - No
Adelaide - Yes
Hawthorn - No
Fremantle - Yes
Melbourne - Yes
I don't expect we'd win all of these, but this is of course based on our form and the form of the other teams in the last half of the season.
Nobody knows who the bolters will be though, I could revisit this in round 6 next season and the Saints are running rampant and we're not going so well and my prediction looks silly.
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we will not beat carlton and thats pretty much a fact.
No, it's not a fact.
Who knows how many we will win. I don't, neither does anyone else. We may get 5 wins, we may get 13 wins. Most likely somewhere in between.Either way, I'll be there supporting the club, not moping around, or wanting to sack everyone, or holding people responsible for things that are out of their control.
There really are some sad people out there. If it makes you so miserable, go and do something else with your time.
I'm with you Gordon, looking at the draw and trying not to get ahead of myself, but we have a lot of winnable games. By winnable I mean we'll be within striking distance at 3 quarter time.
We weren't far off in a few games last season, all the youngsters will be a year older, it might be enough in some games to get us over the line this time.
Very Winnable Games
Carlton - Yes
Kangaroos - Yes
Collingwood - Yes
Fremantle - No
Western Bulldogs - Yes
Hawthorn - No
St. Kilda - Yes
Geelong - No
Essendon - Yes
Sydney - Yes
Adelaide - Yes
Melbourne - Yes
Port Adelaide - No
Carlton - Yes
West Coast - Yes
Essendon - Yes
Brisbane Lions - Yes
Geelong - No
Adelaide - Yes
Hawthorn - No
Fremantle - Yes
Melbourne - Yes
I don't expect we'd win all of these, but this is of course based on our form and the form of the other teams in the last half of the season.
Nobody knows who the bolters will be though, I could revisit this in round 6 next season and the Saints are running rampant and we're not going so well and my prediction looks silly.
The Saints will be on at least 7 wins, probably 8 by the split round next year. Their first half of the season is very kind.
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I went for 8 wins. Geelong x2, Hawthorn x2 plus the interstate trips will be tough. The rest who knows. We could win the close ones next year and finish mid-ladder or we could repeat the narrow loses of this year and finish near the bottom. This time last year we were doing cartwheels drawing the wooden spooners first up yet 6 months later we got run over :scream.
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well l'm gunna make a statement & say we will win 14 games
yep you heard right l'm saying it now before going into the drafts
if we dont make the finals we will finish 9th just out on percentage :thumbsup
call me back at round 11
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personally id rather finish bottom 4 than 9th.
9th for me is one big kick in the guts because what it means is just more doom and gloom for this footy team for 3 years at best. average draft picks etc etc
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personally id rather finish bottom 4 than 9th.
9th for me is one big kick in the guts because what it means is just more doom and gloom for this footy team for 3 years at best. average draft picks etc etc
The stupid draft system makes it that way. It should be a lottery for the bottom 8 sides (but wait until 2009 lol).
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lottery system. dont they do that for another code in the US or something. i may be wrong.
This system is a joke and wouldnt surprise me if demetriou the loser changes it to the lottery in round 20 as we have 3 wins on the board. i get the feeling that guy likes no one but himself.
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lottery system. dont they do that for another code in the US or something. i may be wrong.
This system is a joke and wouldnt surprise me if demetriou the loser changes it to the lottery in round 20 as we have 3 wins on the board. i get the feeling that guy likes no one but himself.
They do it for the NBA.
The team who comes last gets the most combinations in a lotto thing and its staggered back from there.
Teams still tanked in the NBA last year regardless to get a better chance its not foolproof either.
Although quite a few teams did get stung.
Memphis and Boston rested all their good players came last and 2nd last and still only got picks 4 and 5 while portland basically played the year out, came 6th last and got number one, about a 5% chance I think they had. :lol :rollin
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lottery system. dont they do that for another code in the US or something. i may be wrong.
This system is a joke and wouldnt surprise me if demetriou the loser changes it to the lottery in round 20 as we have 3 wins on the board. i get the feeling that guy likes no one but himself.
They do it for the NBA.
The team who comes last gets the most combinations in a lotto thing and its staggered back from there.
Teams still tanked in the NBA last year regardless to get a better chance its not foolproof either.
Although quite a few teams did get stung.
Memphis and Boston rested all their good players came last and 2nd last and still only got picks 4 and 5 while portland basically played the year out, came 6th last and got number one, about a 5% chance I think they had. :lol :rollin
LOL. That's why it's good. Yeah it's not foolproof but you never know for sure whereas now in the AFL sides are tanking from halfway through the year because they can plan in advance.
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Can see 1 win out of first nine rounds and thats against the Bombers in round 9.
reckon rounds 17,20,21 22 are wins.
Think that 5 is where we will be for 2008
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Well lets hope that we get more than we did this year. Or our bandwagon wont have a wheel to spin on. But I don't have any idea's on the amount that we will win, just hoping it more. :gotigers
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I would love nothing more than for us to make the finals, saying that i dont think there is much hope in the first four games except for Carlton.
If we dont win rd 1 i expect us to be anywhere from 0-4 to 0-8.
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We'll beat the Pies :thumbsup. Collingwood = overrated. One narrow loss to a Geelong side who played their worst game of the year in the PF and the Pies and media believe they are close to a flag :wallywink.
Injuries will play a big part with us as we lack depth especially with our talls. If we can get our best 22 on the park we may shock a few early on. Our last month of footy wasn't the worst in the league by any means even without Simmo.
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Being realistic I beleieve somewhere between 8 - 10.
Injuries like this year 3-5.
Best 22 for the majority of the year could be 11-13.
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We did worse this year than what we should have, I thought 10 wins was pretty getable before the injuries struck pre-season. The injury to Simmonds turned out to be catastrophic on two fronts, firstly the loss of our only effective ruckmen and secondly the pounding to morale that that situation created. We lost and we kept loosing and never recovered.
If simmonds can be fit or another effective ruckmen is put in place, confidence can be restored. Based on were I believe this group is at right now this is how I believe the season can pan out.
Carlton - Yes: We can win this game and we should win this game based on what happened in the last eight weeks of season 2007. Yes carlton tanked but I don't believe they are good enough to beat us anyway.
Kangaroos - Yes: The Kangaroos did a lot better this year than a lot of people thought they would, themselves included, they will come back to earth in 2008.
Collingwood - Yes: I believe that Collingwood are more hype than actual ability, I think they'll get found out in 2008
Fremantle - No: This is an interesting one, this side will make the eight next year and will surprise a lot of people. I wasn't a fan of Harvey's about three years ago but he just might make me eat humble pie.
Western Bulldogs - Yes: This is a fifty fifty one, bulldogs are in a bit of strife, eade wont ever win a premiership. Out of eade and Wallace we did get the best. dogs will finish mid table.
Hawthorn - Yes: Had a blinder of a season, one out of the box, wont happen this year but, welcome back to the pack Hawks. If they can hold there list together they are going to be a very good side, but not yet.
St. Kilda - No: St Kilda will bounce back. The loss of Grant really unsettled a lot of the boys down their at the saints early on in 2007, alot of people were peeed off. Ross Lyon, what a brave man to walk into that. Justice has been served and Butters has been scalped. The Saints will be one of the improvers this season.
Geelong - No: Nothing more needs to be said.
Essendon - Yes: Good luck Matthew.
Sydney - No: Sydney are still just a little bit out of our league, especially at the SCG.
Adelaide - Yes: We will win this one, Adelaide are on the way down.
Melbourne - Yes: This is an interesting one too, were as teams over performed last year, most notably hawks, kangars and Port, Richmond and melbourne under performed. Melbourne will bounce back, but we will still beat them.
Port Adelaide - Yes: Port will come back to the pack, everything fell their way last year, that wont happen twice.
Carlton - Yes: They'll be better than round one, but so will we.
West Coast - No: Subiaco, still a great side, they will be better without the criminal influence.
Essendon - Yes: Good luck Matthew.
Brisbane Lions - Yes: only because we will play them in Melbourne.
Geelong - No: Next
Adelaide - Yes: ageing side, on the way down
Hawthorn - Yes: As stated earlier
Fremantle - No: Will make the eight.
Melbourne - No: they'll get one back on us for their 150th year.
So that's 13 wins, 52 points and a finals berth, it's entirely possible, just ask Hawthorne.
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Yeah sounds good in theory. more than likely demetriou and his fag mate anderson will probabaly scrap the p.pick in round 20 as we sit on 3 wins.
their probabaly thinking the job is done with the blues, they are on top again, now lets "Fix this system"
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8, I hope (obviously hope more but really not sure how we will go).
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who knows !!!
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We'll beat the Pies :thumbsup. Collingwood = overrated. One narrow loss to a Geelong side who played their worst game of the year in the PF and the Pies and media believe they are close to a flag :wallywink.
Injuries will play a big part with us as we lack depth especially with our talls. If we can get our best 22 on the park we may shock a few early on. Our last month of footy wasn't the worst in the league by any means even without Simmo.
the pies are overated i agree but gee they are well coached. i really believe him and sheeds both ex tigers are the 2 best coaches ive seen. sheeds in his prime
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the pies are overated i agree but gee they are well coached. i really believe him and sheeds both ex tigers are the 2 best coaches ive seen. sheeds in his prime
Agree with Malthouse being a top coach who gets the best out of his group. Funny how some "Richmond" people are obsessed with Sheeds yet never once mention Malthouse.
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I would love nothing more than for us to make the finals, saying that i dont think there is much hope in the first four games except for Carlton.
If we dont win rd 1 i expect us to be anywhere from 0-4 to 0-8.
Same feeling. We must start 1-0 or I feel any confidence will drain again almost instantly.
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I would love nothing more than for us to make the finals, saying that i dont think there is much hope in the first four games except for Carlton.
If we dont win rd 1 i expect us to be anywhere from 0-4 to 0-8.
Same feeling. We must start 1-0 or I feel any confidence will drain again almost instantly.
funny this comment because thats whats been going on in my head.
if we lose to the blues round 1 i can see heads dropping and ending up at 0/8 or 1/8
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If losing round 1 is enough to destroy all confidence then how weak-minded is that. If all clubs thought like that then the finals might as start in April.
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it shouldnt be like that but i feel this year it was and with the tigers we always drop our heads when we dont have to. we lack a mental toughness that other clubs have.
i believe if we had beaten the blues in round 1 then we may have been more respectful than what we dished up early this year which was nothing short of pathetic.
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It all depends on the loss.
If its like this year where we were 27 up in the third in control and then Terry shuts up shop to hang on to what he has and we lose gone.
If he plays defensive football that exposes our lack of skill but won't get us thrashed due to the players efforts gone. Because that will show the players that Terry has no confidence in them and he is bereft of ideas or untrustworthy of the players and that will cause real issues between players and coach and we will then be talking about the same old same old problems.
Only way we benefit is this way even if we lose go out and play open footy as we did in the last month and play a style of footy that when the kids have more experience will be able to manipulate successfully week in and week out and lose that way or play that way and we win. That way Terry has the players attention Terry trusts them enough to execute a game plan that will "really" help them win and the preparation is there much in the same way the players were up for Hird's last game in Vic.
Plough is coaching for his future and you'll find there will be no middle ground or grey areas only black or white, Either have 12 -14 and make the 8. Or finish up with 3-5 wins and finish up in the bottom 2. Simple