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Title: Wallace on SEN
Post by: one-eyed on March 12, 2008, 05:38:48 PM
Plough on SEN soon with Schwarz and Francis Leech. Sometime between now and 7pm.
Title: Re: Wallace coming up on SEN
Post by: one-eyed on March 12, 2008, 06:02:05 PM
They said Terry will be on straight after the news.
Title: Re: Wallace coming up on SEN
Post by: tigersalive on March 12, 2008, 06:12:03 PM
Recording as we speak.  The SEN webstream isnt great and Plough's line is pretty bad but if it turns out ok I'll up it on some kind of file uploader.
Title: Re: Wallace coming up on SEN
Post by: Francois Jackson on March 12, 2008, 06:20:36 PM
im sick to death of the comparisons of our young players to geelong players.
jon is a dud, i wish wallace would just come out and say that
meyer and schulz same boat
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: one-eyed on March 12, 2008, 06:27:16 PM
Summary

* Quiet preseason Terry? Terry - Why didn't you call (laughs). Used the same line on Sport 927. Same answer too. We've got to go out and prove it rather than just talk.

* Any pressure Terry?
It is time in terms of maturity. We gutted the place to the bone when we first arrived with young boys running around in first few years. Now they are young men and need to stand up. Last year had 7-8 players not ready for round 1. Meyer and Cotchin the only 2 not available this year.

* Preseason Results aren't really important. Won 2, loss 2. Won interstate so get a stamp size news report. Played the losses in Victoria so it gets more publicity. Loss to Saints and full-side geeloing side up and running. We'll see how it goes first round and see how that stacks up.

* During preseason we see what worked well and what didn't. Sides have lost by 80 points preseason and then turned it around come the real stuff. We've done it ourselves. We've also seen sides built up as world champions preseason and nothing happens. The Roos came good in the real season after a poor preseason last year.

* Easter Thursday and Juddy makes the Carlton game big. We finished late in the year with the big Sheedy-Hird game and that was great for our young guys to play in. Good to get that opportunity again first up.

* Sides like geeloing and others can bring players in when they are 21 (used Gamble as an example). JON is still only 19. Hughes is slightly different as he's started to bulk up and slightly older. But really it's more Raines, Schulz, Lids, Tambo, Patto, Polo that need to and should step up. Those 4-5 year players.

* Agreed it's a bonus to have those who can come in straight off the bat but the expectation should be on the older 4-5 year guys than the 1-2 year kids. Then the 1-2 year came come in without expectation and surprise.

* Blingers - only concerned about who plays for us. We always expected him to come good once he matured mentality and physically. He's now starting to reach that stage.

* Lids - flexible to move around. All this talk of be like Judd. We couldn't care if he becomes more like Hird or Brad Johnson. Lids has the ability to play both midfield and up forward.

* Cogs - great to see him back. Not only coming back from the two knees but also the groin. A tread easy situation. Getting better each time he plays. Guide ourselves by how well he comes along and plays.

* Richo - loves the big stage. Loves the contest. He's had a full preseason.

* Pleased we've only got one player underdone and needs to play this week.

* Schwarz expects 75-80,000 to the game.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 12, 2008, 07:20:11 PM
He doesnt know what to do with Lids.
He was hell bent off playing him off half back 12 months ago.
Oh ,how we forget.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: rogerd3 on March 12, 2008, 07:24:04 PM
He doesnt know what to do with Lids.
He was hell bent off playing him off half back 12 months ago.
Oh ,how we forget.

right on cue. :rollin
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 12, 2008, 07:43:24 PM
He doesnt know what to do with Lids.
He was hell bent off playing him off half back 12 months ago.
Oh ,how we forget.

right on cue. :rollin

Well its a FACT.
If and IF , you actually go to the games, he used Lids off half back for quiet a while during 2006 and a bit in 2007
I get bagged for stating the truth ::)
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: HKTiger on March 12, 2008, 08:14:25 PM
He doesnt know what to do with Lids.
He was hell bent off playing him off half back 12 months ago.
Oh ,how we forget.

right on cue. :rollin

Well its a FACT.
If and IF , you actually go to the games, he used Lids off half back for quiet a while during 2006 and a bit in 2007
I get bagged for stating the truth ::)

Yes it's a fact.  But you conveniently forget the rider to that fact that it was also to teach him defensive pressure skills and may not be the end position.

Mate, I live thousands of miles away and I knew that.  Your selective facts are hilarious.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 12, 2008, 08:32:34 PM
He doesnt know what to do with Lids.
He was hell bent off playing him off half back 12 months ago.
Oh ,how we forget.

right on cue. :rollin

Well its a FACT.
If and IF , you actually go to the games, he used Lids off half back for quiet a while during 2006 and a bit in 2007
I get bagged for stating the truth ::)

Yes it's a fact.  But you conveniently forget the rider to that fact that it was also to teach him defensive pressure skills and may not be the end position.

Mate, I live thousands of miles away and I knew that.  Your selective facts are hilarious.

i can tell you that the coaching staff have had issues in where to play Lids and a lesser extent Tambling, thats your problem you if dont want to  beleive, it a free world. ::)
Had nothing to do with teaching his defensive skills either
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Infamy on March 12, 2008, 09:07:09 PM
He doesnt know what to do with Lids.
He was hell bent off playing him off half back 12 months ago.
Oh ,how we forget.
Two words for you... LUKE HODGE
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Mr Magic on March 12, 2008, 09:08:44 PM
Deledio is not the problem.
Those more senior around him are. ;)
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: tigersalive on March 12, 2008, 09:53:50 PM
For overseas-ers or those who just want to listen who missed it.

http://rapidshare.com/files/98933528/SEN_Wallace_12-3-08.mp3.html
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 12, 2008, 10:07:54 PM
He doesnt know what to do with Lids.
He was hell bent off playing him off half back 12 months ago.
Oh ,how we forget.
Two words for you... LUKE HODGE

What has Hodge have too do with it, ::) I could go and say Jason Gram :o
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: rogerd3 on March 12, 2008, 10:11:29 PM
He doesnt know what to do with Lids.
He was hell bent off playing him off half back 12 months ago.
Oh ,how we forget.

right on cue. :rollin

Well its a FACT.
If and IF , you actually go to the games, he used Lids off half back for quiet a while during 2006 and a bit in 2007
I get bagged for stating the truth ::)

Yes it's a fact.  But you conveniently forget the rider to that fact that it was also to teach him defensive pressure skills and may not be the end position.

Mate, I live thousands of miles away and I knew that.  Your selective facts are hilarious.

i can tell you that the coaching staff have had issues in where to play Lids and a lesser extent Tambling, thats your problem you if dont want to  beleive, it a free world. ::)
Had nothing to do with teaching his defensive skills either

please tell us about these so called issues Jackstar, as you seem to know whats going on in the minds of our coaching staff, i would have thought in this day and age of the professional footballer an important requirement would be able to play in many positions especially someone with young Bretts capabilites.

And i very rarely miss a game by the way, good try anyway ;)...i just love the way you continually get stuck into the football club you supposedly support..seems a bit of a paradox actually.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: yellowandback on March 12, 2008, 10:19:02 PM
He doesnt know what to do with Lids.
He was hell bent off playing him off half back 12 months ago.
Oh ,how we forget.
Two words for you... LUKE HODGE

What has Hodge have too do with it, ::) I could go and say Jason Gram :o

Nice try Magpie - you are a Collingwood supporter.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Infamy on March 12, 2008, 11:05:08 PM
He doesnt know what to do with Lids.
He was hell bent off playing him off half back 12 months ago.
Oh ,how we forget.
Two words for you... LUKE HODGE

What has Hodge have too do with it, ::) I could go and say Jason Gram :o
Where was Luke Hodge getting played in his 4th & 5th years in the system?
Oh that's right, half back

Now that he's a couple of years older and is now a full time midfielder who rests forward, does that mean that the coach didn't know where to play him in his early years, or do you think it may have just been part of his development?

Your football knowledge is lacking
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: blaisee on March 13, 2008, 08:57:03 AM
He doesnt know what to do with Lids.
He was hell bent off playing him off half back 12 months ago.
Oh ,how we forget.

right on cue. :rollin

Well its a FACT.
If and IF , you actually go to the games, he used Lids off half back for quiet a while during 2006 and a bit in 2007
I get bagged for stating the truth ::)

Yes it's a fact.  But you conveniently forget the rider to that fact that it was also to teach him defensive pressure skills and may not be the end position.

Mate, I live thousands of miles away and I knew that.  Your selective facts are hilarious.

i can tell you that the coaching staff have had issues in where to play Lids and a lesser extent Tambling, thats your problem you if dont want to  beleive, it a free world. ::)
Had nothing to do with teaching his defensive skills either

please tell us about these so called issues Jackstar, as you seem to know whats going on in the minds of our coaching staff, i would have thought in this day and age of the professional footballer an important requirement would be able to play in many positions especially someone with young Bretts capabilites.

And i very rarely miss a game by the way, good try anyway ;)...i just love the way you continually get stuck into the football club you supposedly support..seems a bit of a paradox actually.

you and I both know rog, jack is a disgruntled ex-employee, and everything he says should be seen in that light
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Ramps on March 13, 2008, 09:04:37 AM
Jacko is usually proven right based on whats happened in the past.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 13, 2008, 09:59:04 AM
He doesnt know what to do with Lids.
He was hell bent off playing him off half back 12 months ago.
Oh ,how we forget.

right on cue. :rollin

Well its a FACT.
If and IF , you actually go to the games, he used Lids off half back for quiet a while during 2006 and a bit in 2007
I get bagged for stating the truth ::)

Yes it's a fact.  But you conveniently forget the rider to that fact that it was also to teach him defensive pressure skills and may not be the end position.

Mate, I live thousands of miles away and I knew that.  Your selective facts are hilarious.

i can tell you that the coaching staff have had issues in where to play Lids and a lesser extent Tambling, thats your problem you if dont want to  beleive, it a free world. ::)
Had nothing to do with teaching his defensive skills either

please tell us about these so called issues Jackstar, as you seem to know whats going on in the minds of our coaching staff, i would have thought in this day and age of the professional footballer an important requirement would be able to play in many positions especially someone with young Bretts capabilites.

And i very rarely miss a game by the way, good try anyway ;)...i just love the way you continually get stuck into the football club you supposedly support..seems a bit of a paradox actually.
w
you and I both know rog, jack is a disgruntled ex-employee, and everything he says should be seen in that light

I love the RFC. I have been a supporter longer than most of you, went to my first game in 1966 , Northey kicked 9 against melbourne, played half forward.
Would love to see the tiges successful, unfortunately it wont happen with the current structure they have in place
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Moi on March 13, 2008, 10:38:56 AM
You'd sell your soul to the devil to get rid of Wallace, Jack.
BTW we're all Tiger supporters, don't give us "you're-a-better-supporter-than-us" crap
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Tigermonk on March 13, 2008, 11:19:42 AM
problem is with them Jack is there been staring at only one team while the others are doing circles around us thats why we hold the big wooden spoon
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: mightytiges on March 13, 2008, 07:20:52 PM
Deledio is not the problem.
Those more senior around him are. ;)
:thumbsup
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: yellowandback on March 13, 2008, 09:48:59 PM

He doesnt know what to do with Lids.
He was hell bent off playing him off half back 12 months ago.
Oh ,how we forget.
[/quote]

right on cue. :rollin
[/quote]

Well its a FACT.
If and IF , you actually go to the games, he used Lids off half back for quiet a while during 2006 and a bit in 2007
I get bagged for stating the truth ::)
[/quote]

Yes it's a fact.  But you conveniently forget the rider to that fact that it was also to teach him defensive pressure skills and may not be the end position.

Mate, I live thousands of miles away and I knew that.  Your selective facts are hilarious.
[/quote]

i can tell you that the coaching staff have had issues in where to play Lids and a lesser extent Tambling, thats your problem you if dont want to  beleive, it a free world. ::)
Had nothing to do with teaching his defensive skills either
[/quote]

please tell us about these so called issues Jackstar, as you seem to know whats going on in the minds of our coaching staff, i would have thought in this day and age of the professional footballer an important requirement would be able to play in many positions especially someone with young Bretts capabilites.

And i very rarely miss a game by the way, good try anyway ;)...i just love the way you continually get stuck into the football club you supposedly support..seems a bit of a paradox actually.
[/quote]
w
you and I both know rog, jack is a disgruntled ex-employee, and everything he says should be seen in that light
[/quote]

I love the RFC. I have been a supporter longer than most of you, went to my first game in 1966 , Northey kicked 9 against melbourne, played half forward.
Would love to see the tiges successful, unfortunately it wont happen with the current structure they have in place

[/quote]

I just think that if you are such a keen supporter, then and we have a decent year - say we win 10 or 11 games you have painted yourself into a corner.

Half the crap that you post just sounds bitter - and by the way this forum is called "ONE EYED RICHMOND"
If we improve like a Collingwood or a Kangaroos circa 2007 then you look stupid.  Not likely but still.....

What would you rather - look stupid BUT Richmond have a great year OR have the satisfaction of being right but the Tigers finishing down the bottom of the ladder.

Either way, if you are a real supporter, you're going to look at personal downside this year.
All because you want to jump the gun and judge OUR club before a ball is kicked in anger.

Why would you do that to yourself?

Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: torch on March 13, 2008, 11:11:03 PM
nothing wrong with Deledio ... BUT ...

Terry putting Deledio as a key forward to me is a "Quick Fix" ...

Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 13, 2008, 11:21:10 PM

He doesnt know what to do with Lids.
He was hell bent off playing him off half back 12 months ago.
Oh ,how we forget.

right on cue. :rollin
[/quote]

Well its a FACT.
If and IF , you actually go to the games, he used Lids off half back for quiet a while during 2006 and a bit in 2007
I get bagged for stating the truth ::)
[/quote]

Yes it's a fact.  But you conveniently forget the rider to that fact that it was also to teach him defensive pressure skills and may not be the end position.

Mate, I live thousands of miles away and I knew that.  Your selective facts are hilarious.
[/quote]

i can tell you that the coaching staff have had issues in where to play Lids and a lesser extent Tambling, thats your problem you if dont want to  beleive, it a free world. ::)
Had nothing to do with teaching his defensive skills either
[/quote]

please tell us about these so called issues Jackstar, as you seem to know whats going on in the minds of our coaching staff, i would have thought in this day and age of the professional footballer an important requirement would be able to play in many positions especially someone with young Bretts capabilites.

And i very rarely miss a game by the way, good try anyway ;)...i just love the way you continually get stuck into the football club you supposedly support..seems a bit of a paradox actually.
[/quote]
w
you and I both know rog, jack is a disgruntled ex-employee, and everything he says should be seen in that light
[/quote]

I love the RFC. I have been a supporter longer than most of you, went to my first game in 1966 , Northey kicked 9 against melbourne, played half forward.
Would love to see the tiges successful, unfortunately it wont happen with the current structure they have in place

[/quote]

I just think that if you are such a keen supporter, then and we have a decent year - say we win 10 or 11 games you have painted yourself into a corner.

Half the crap that you post just sounds bitter - and by the way this forum is called "ONE EYED RICHMOND"
If we improve like a Collingwood or a Kangaroos circa 2007 then you look stupid.  Not likely but still.....

What would you rather - look stupid BUT Richmond have a great year OR have the satisfaction of being right but the Tigers finishing down the bottom of the ladder.

Either way, if you are a real supporter, you're going to look at personal downside this year.
All because you want to jump the gun and judge OUR club before a ball is kicked in anger.

Why would you do that to yourself?


[/quote]

I am not in dreamworld like most on this site.
Seeing that you like quoting, go and find the thread from last year ( 2007 season)when I said we wouldnt win a game for the first 10 weeks,
I am a realist, reality is we are no good and we will be bottom four this year, god help if Simmons gets injured again.
I dont think that Wallace can coach, thats my opinion, first hand I might add!
You people judge Wallace on what, not results thats for sure.
As he was a terrible coach at the doggies at the finish .
You are sucked in by him being media friendly etc, guess what, the media will get right in to him if they lose the first game.
You know something, I actually care about the RFC, and I am really concerned by the current direction the club is heading in.
I see no signs of improvement but heaps of spindoctoring about recruits who are built up as superstars who cant play, players who have difficenies in the there game being signed up on extended contracts before a game is played, might add the same guy was offered as trade bait by Miller on several occassions during trade week over the past 2 season.
They then sign up some light weight from the western bulldogs for 3 years ::) on a $1,000,000 contract who is the most unaccountable footballer playing the game, might add played 8 games at Werribee last year, gets traded to the bottom of the ladder club and gets more money, you work that one out, cause I CANT.
Yes, i am extremely concerned where this club is heading, and so are many supporters, have a look a t the current membership numbers, not good.
Also big deal that I was involved there, it just opened my eyes up to what an unprofessional club we are really are and I can fully understand why we havent been successful for so many years.  Didnt find any problem getting a gig elsewhere either. ;)
As I have said many times, I dont think through my heart like most of you here do, I love the RFC and would love to see us make the finals, reality is that we have poorly recruited and therefore have a poor list and I beleive that we are poorly coached. Thats my opinion.
Lets just see what eventuates next thursday nite. I dont want to see the short kicks sideways in defensive 50, but that Terrys game plan to hold on to possesion of the ball and go short. If we get b ehind in the game and Richo plays behind the ball, thats the sign of defeat and they then try and avoid a blow out.

Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Tigermonk on March 14, 2008, 12:53:44 AM
Good post Jackstar  :clapping  :clapping l fully agree
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: yellowandback on March 14, 2008, 11:21:44 PM

He doesnt know what to do with Lids.
He was hell bent off playing him off half back 12 months ago.
Oh ,how we forget.

right on cue. :rollin

Well its a FACT.
If and IF , you actually go to the games, he used Lids off half back for quiet a while during 2006 and a bit in 2007
I get bagged for stating the truth ::)
[/quote]

Yes it's a fact.  But you conveniently forget the rider to that fact that it was also to teach him defensive pressure skills and may not be the end position.

Mate, I live thousands of miles away and I knew that.  Your selective facts are hilarious.
[/quote]

i can tell you that the coaching staff have had issues in where to play Lids and a lesser extent Tambling, thats your problem you if dont want to  beleive, it a free world. ::)
Had nothing to do with teaching his defensive skills either
[/quote]

please tell us about these so called issues Jackstar, as you seem to know whats going on in the minds of our coaching staff, i would have thought in this day and age of the professional footballer an important requirement would be able to play in many positions especially someone with young Bretts capabilites.

And i very rarely miss a game by the way, good try anyway ;)...i just love the way you continually get stuck into the football club you supposedly support..seems a bit of a paradox actually.
[/quote]
w
you and I both know rog, jack is a disgruntled ex-employee, and everything he says should be seen in that light
[/quote]

I love the RFC. I have been a supporter longer than most of you, went to my first game in 1966 , Northey kicked 9 against melbourne, played half forward.
Would love to see the tiges successful, unfortunately it wont happen with the current structure they have in place

[/quote]

I just think that if you are such a keen supporter, then and we have a decent year - say we win 10 or 11 games you have painted yourself into a corner.

Half the crap that you post just sounds bitter - and by the way this forum is called "ONE EYED RICHMOND"
If we improve like a Collingwood or a Kangaroos circa 2007 then you look stupid.  Not likely but still.....

What would you rather - look stupid BUT Richmond have a great year OR have the satisfaction of being right but the Tigers finishing down the bottom of the ladder.

Either way, if you are a real supporter, you're going to look at personal downside this year.
All because you want to jump the gun and judge OUR club before a ball is kicked in anger.

Why would you do that to yourself?


[/quote]

I am not in dreamworld like most on this site.
Seeing that you like quoting, go and find the thread from last year ( 2007 season)when I said we wouldnt win a game for the first 10 weeks,
I am a realist, reality is we are no good and we will be bottom four this year, god help if Simmons gets injured again.
I dont think that Wallace can coach, thats my opinion, first hand I might add!
You people judge Wallace on what, not results thats for sure.
As he was a terrible coach at the doggies at the finish .
You are sucked in by him being media friendly etc, guess what, the media will get right in to him if they lose the first game.
You know something, I actually care about the RFC, and I am really concerned by the current direction the club is heading in.
I see no signs of improvement but heaps of spindoctoring about recruits who are built up as superstars who cant play, players who have difficenies in the there game being signed up on extended contracts before a game is played, might add the same guy was offered as trade bait by Miller on several occassions during trade week over the past 2 season.
They then sign up some light weight from the western bulldogs for 3 years ::) on a $1,000,000 contract who is the most unaccountable footballer playing the game, might add played 8 games at Werribee last year, gets traded to the bottom of the ladder club and gets more money, you work that one out, cause I CANT.
Yes, i am extremely concerned where this club is heading, and so are many supporters, have a look a t the current membership numbers, not good.
Also big deal that I was involved there, it just opened my eyes up to what an unprofessional club we are really are and I can fully understand why we havent been successful for so many years.  Didnt find any problem getting a gig elsewhere either. ;)
As I have said many times, I dont think through my heart like most of you here do, I love the RFC and would love to see us make the finals, reality is that we have poorly recruited and therefore have a poor list and I beleive that we are poorly coached. Thats my opinion.
Lets just see what eventuates next thursday nite. I dont want to see the short kicks sideways in defensive 50, but that Terrys game plan to hold on to possesion of the ball and go short. If we get b ehind in the game and Richo plays behind the ball, thats the sign of defeat and they then try and avoid a blow out.


[/quote]

I appreciate you talking like a supporter, thanks for that. I wasn't sure and I read as many of your posts to try and work out your agenda.

To me, this is not about hearts vs head - you can swing between both when you follow the Tigers, sometimes in the same post.

I don't doubt your passion - in fact i don't doubt any one who posts on this forum - 99% would want to see a great team play for what is a great club.

So if you want to think I love the coach, thats your interpretation - the point of my post was less about the Tigers and more about how you support the tigers.

If you come out before Round 1 and declare the side is no good (and if you did that last year, it really reinforces my point) then I think you have backed yourself into a corner.

If we do well, your wrong, if we perform badly you get the satisfaction of being proven right.  Now it is human nature to want to be right. So us failing almost seems like your best option this year.  That is what I don't get.
If you think we are no good, why post that on a supporter forum  before round 1?


Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 15, 2008, 08:21:42 AM
Maybe just maybe we are all sick of being losers..  Alot of members have dropped off.  All I am saying is where i see the club. We have the worst captain in the comp, we are poorly coached, we overuse the ball something shocking.  There is a reason we are on bottom you know, and its not caused by luck either.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Moi on March 15, 2008, 08:37:36 AM
I am very confused as to who's quoting what in this thread  :rollin

If you don't know how to use quotes, try changing the colour of the text, or something. 

I don't know how to use them either so you're not alone  :wallywink
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: 1965 on March 15, 2008, 08:50:27 AM
Maybe just maybe we are all sick of being losers..  Alot of members have dropped off.  All I am saying is where i see the club. We have the worst captain in the comp, we are poorly coached, we overuse the ball something shocking.  There is a reason we are on bottom you know, and its not caused by luck either.

Speak for yourself.

I am quite happy being a loser.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: tigersalive on March 15, 2008, 09:27:26 AM
Maybe just maybe we are all sick of being losers..  Alot of members have dropped off.  All I am saying is where i see the club. We have the worst captain in the comp, we are poorly coached, we overuse the ball something shocking.  There is a reason we are on bottom you know, and its not caused by luck either.

Arent we still at record pace?  If there's more coming in than dropping off I'm fine with that.

Apart from that yes we probably have the worst captain and we certainly overuse the the ball.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 15, 2008, 09:59:43 AM
Bottom 2-3 memberships Vic clubs, fact!
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Smokey on March 15, 2008, 10:25:45 AM
Bottom 2-3 memberships Vic clubs, fact!
Not when apples are compared to apples.  When the league or newspaper makes a definitive call on what actually constitutes a member - ticketed vs non-ticketed - and when all clubs figures are then based on that directive then you will find that we are actually quite well placed for a club that as been a basket case for as long as we have.  And a few years of confidence in the club through stable governorship and on-field competitiveness/success will see us place in the top tier once again.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Fishfinger on March 15, 2008, 10:26:57 AM
A distorted fact.

Other clubs count non-ticketed memberships in the published figures, as they should in my opinion because all club members are club members.
Adding Richmond's non-ticketed memberships (which are not in the published figures) moves the club well up the membership ladder.

I'd be interested to hear the explanation of how members are dropping off when there are about 1200 more now than at the same time last year.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Moi on March 15, 2008, 10:31:30 AM
As a previous seller of memberships, you'll find the figures are still low at this time of the year. 
They sell them up until May/June or whatever.
I wouldn't be classing us as a basket case yet
But I would be if I was Jack, becuase he's a miserable sod lol
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Smokey on March 15, 2008, 10:38:57 AM
I'd be interested to hear the explanation of how members are dropping off when there are about 1200 more now than at the same time last year.
He would be correct in that many members do not renew for one of a thousand reasons but if they are being replaced by more new members each year then it isn't a problem.  Every club bar none loses members to non-renewal - the aim is to replace them and we have been doing that very well for a number of years now, especially considering what we have to offer by way of results!
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Tigermonk on March 15, 2008, 10:47:42 AM
the membership drive would have to be excellent with all the drive the club does
anyway l brought a few extra memberships this year for the niece & nephew the next generation
l just got to try & convince all the others to change colours  :lol  :thumbsup
but membership is not dropping off, maybe the older generation is but the new generation will be larger
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: tigerfan1961 on March 15, 2008, 11:02:24 AM
Good post Jackstar  :clapping  :clapping l fully agree

I pretty much agree as well. I have been a huge Wallace supporter but am starting to have doubts after watching that NAB Cup game. I know "it was only a NAB Cup game" but gee, that chipping around game plan is truly crap. I posted on another thread about how frustrating it was so I will not repeat myself, but geez, if we play that chippy chippy back and sideways rubbish during this season proper, he will have really lost me.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 15, 2008, 12:30:56 PM
Good post Jackstar  :clapping  :clapping l fully agree

I pretty much agree as well. I have been a huge Wallace supporter but am starting to have doubts after watching that NAB Cup game. I know "it was only a NAB Cup game" but gee, that chipping around game plan is truly crap. I posted on another thread about how frustrating it was so I will not repeat myself, but geez, if we play that chippy chippy back and sideways rubbish during this season proper, he will have really lost me.

He would of lost you  and lost his job as well
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 15, 2008, 12:32:15 PM
As a previous seller of memberships, you'll find the figures are still low at this time of the year. 
They sell them up until May/June or whatever.
I wouldn't be classing us as a basket case yet
But I would be if I was Jack, becuase he's a miserable sod lol


They are very low for this time of year.
as for me being miserable, :lol :lol :lol people would say I am generous in more ways the one.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Moi on March 15, 2008, 12:48:58 PM
They are very low for this time of year.
Read what Fish said  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 15, 2008, 01:22:39 PM
A distorted fact.

Other clubs count non-ticketed memberships in the published figures, as they should in my opinion because all club members are club members.
Adding Richmond's non-ticketed memberships (which are not in the published figures) moves the club well up the membership ladder.

I'd be interested to hear the explanation of how members are dropping off when there are about 1200 more now than at the same time last year.

I am interested to tell you.
Have a look at where we sit on the membership ladder compared to other clubs., kangaroos have more members , we are down with the Dogs and Melbourne.
furthermore, its no secret that all us diehard supporters now by MULTILPLE memberships, and a certain poster thinks I am miserbale. :lol
Fish, you must have been to the Terry Wallace school of spindoctoring , as we have fallen well off the pace of the Powerhouse Vic teams, FACT!
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 15, 2008, 01:24:54 PM
They are very low for this time of year.
Read what Fish said  :thumbsup

Yeah  READ what I said.
Our membership is down with the Dogs and the Demons, Kangas have more than us
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: blaisee on March 15, 2008, 01:36:06 PM
They are very low for this time of year.
Read what Fish said  :thumbsup

Yeah  READ what I said.
Our membership is down with the Dogs and the Demons, Kangas have more than us



you have no idea. complete ill-informed and ignorant..as usual

memberships are up by 750 compared to last year.

On rack for another record membership.

LOL at jacks inide info...wrong agian :sleep :wallywink
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Moi on March 15, 2008, 01:41:25 PM
They are very low for this time of year.
Read what Fish said  :thumbsup

Yeah  READ what I said.
Our membership is down with the Dogs and the Demons, Kangas have more than us



you have no idea. complete ill-informed and ignorant..as usual

memberships are up by 750 compared to last year.

On rack for another record membership.

LOL at jacks inide info...wrong agian :sleep :wallywink
Like talking to a child lol
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 15, 2008, 01:42:54 PM
They are very low for this time of year.
Read what Fish said  :thumbsup

Yeah  READ what I said.
Our membership is down with the Dogs and the Demons, Kangas have more than us



you have no idea. complete ill-informed and ignorant..as usual

memberships are up by 750 compared to last year.

On rack for another record membership.

LOL at jacks inide info...wrong agian :sleep :wallywink

Just goes to show what a fool you are.
Whats the point being up 750 when everyone else is up 3,000- 5,000 ::) :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
And Blaisee, no inside info here, i dont associate with losers anymore.   This is what was printed in the paper.please yourself.
Question Blaisee, you seem to know everything, how will the tiges go on Thursday evening ?
They going to play a chip it sideways, backwards etc   ?? Do tell , I am interested really
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 15, 2008, 01:43:48 PM
They are very low for this time of year.
Read what Fish said  :thumbsup

Yeah  READ what I said.
Our membership is down with the Dogs and the Demons, Kangas have more than us



you have no idea. complete ill-informed and ignorant..as usual

memberships are up by 750 compared to last year.

On rack for another record membership.

LOL at jacks inide info...wrong agian :sleep :wallywink
Like talking to a child lol

Read my post CHILD
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: blaisee on March 15, 2008, 01:45:45 PM
They are very low for this time of year.
Read what Fish said  :thumbsup

Yeah  READ what I said.
Our membership is down with the Dogs and the Demons, Kangas have more than us



you have no idea. complete ill-informed and ignorant..as usual

memberships are up by 750 compared to last year.

On rack for another record membership.

LOL at jacks inide info...wrong agian :sleep :wallywink

Just goes to show what a fool you are.
Whats the point being up 750 when everyone else is up 3,000- 5,000 ::) :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
And Blaisee, no inside info here, i dont associate with losers anymore.   This is what was printed in the paper.please yourself.
Question Blaisee, you seem to know everything, how will the tiges go on Thursday evening ?
They going to play a chip it sideways, backwards etc   ?? Do tell , I am interested really

sorry mate

cant reveal playing style to opposition scouts...even sacked ones ;)
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 15, 2008, 01:46:16 PM
They are very low for this time of year.
Read what Fish said  :thumbsup

Yeah  READ what I said.
Our membership is down with the Dogs and the Demons, Kangas have more than us



you have no idea. complete ill-informed and ignorant..as usual

memberships are up by 750 compared to last year.

On rack for another record membership.

LOL at jacks inide info...wrong agian :sleep :wallywink
Like talking to a child lol

And you think Wallace is god, wait till later in the year when he is shown the door
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Moi on March 15, 2008, 01:47:09 PM
They are very low for this time of year.
Read what Fish said  :thumbsup

Yeah  READ what I said.
Our membership is down with the Dogs and the Demons, Kangas have more than us



you have no idea. complete ill-informed and ignorant..as usual

memberships are up by 750 compared to last year.

On rack for another record membership.

LOL at jacks inide info...wrong agian :sleep :wallywink

Just goes to show what a fool you are.
Whats the point being up 750 when everyone else is up 3,000- 5,000 ::) :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
And Blaisee, no inside info here, i dont associate with losers anymore.   This is what was printed in the paper.please yourself.
Question Blaisee, you seem to know everything, how will the tiges go on Thursday evening ?
They going to play a chip it sideways, backwards etc   ?? Do tell , I am interested really

sorry mate

cant reveal playing style to opposition scouts...even sacked ones ;)
:rollin
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 15, 2008, 01:49:05 PM
They are very low for this time of year.
Read what Fish said  :thumbsup

Yeah  READ what I said.
Our membership is down with the Dogs and the Demons, Kangas have more than us



you have no idea. complete ill-informed and ignorant..as usual

memberships are up by 750 compared to last year.

On rack for another record membership.

LOL at jacks inide info...wrong agian :sleep :wallywink

Just goes to show what a fool you are.
Whats the point being up 750 when everyone else is up 3,000- 5,000 ::) :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
And Blaisee, no inside info here, i dont associate with losers anymore.   This is what was printed in the paper.please yourself.
Question Blaisee, you seem to know everything, how will the tiges go on Thursday evening ?
They going to play a chip it sideways, backwards etc   ?? Do tell , I am interested really

sorry mate

cant reveal playing style to opposition scouts...even sacked ones ;)

Have already watched them at a closed session, nothing has changed, they should get flogged if they play that crap.
By the way, you seemed to reading problems, I walked . best move i ever done.  
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 15, 2008, 01:51:41 PM
They are very low for this time of year.
Read what Fish said  :thumbsup



Yeah  READ what I said.
Our membership is down with the Dogs and the Demons, Kangas have more than us



you have no idea. complete ill-informed and ignorant..as usual

memberships are up by 750 compared to last year.

On rack for another record membership.

LOL at jacks inide info...wrong agian :sleep :wallywink

Just goes to show what a fool you are.
Whats the point being up 750 when everyone else is up 3,000- 5,000 ::) :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
And Blaisee, no inside info here, i dont associate with losers anymore.   This is what was printed in the paper.please yourself.
Question Blaisee, you seem to know everything, how will the tiges go on Thursday evening ?
They going to play a chip it sideways, backwards etc   ?? Do tell , I am interested really

sorry mate

cant reveal playing style to opposition scouts...even sacked ones ;)
:rollin

Dont know why you are laughing Moi.

Its you and the dreamers on here that will have a miserable season watching crap football.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Moi on March 15, 2008, 01:55:43 PM
They are very low for this time of year.
Read what Fish said  :thumbsup



Yeah  READ what I said.
Our membership is down with the Dogs and the Demons, Kangas have more than us



you have no idea. complete ill-informed and ignorant..as usual

memberships are up by 750 compared to last year.

On rack for another record membership.

LOL at jacks inide info...wrong agian :sleep :wallywink

Just goes to show what a fool you are.
Whats the point being up 750 when everyone else is up 3,000- 5,000 ::) :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
And Blaisee, no inside info here, i dont associate with losers anymore.   This is what was printed in the paper.please yourself.
Question Blaisee, you seem to know everything, how will the tiges go on Thursday evening ?
They going to play a chip it sideways, backwards etc   ?? Do tell , I am interested really

sorry mate

cant reveal playing style to opposition scouts...even sacked ones ;)
:rollin
Dont know why you are laughing Moi.
You actually know that I walked and didnt get the sack.
You did not
Total denial now lol
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Ramps on March 15, 2008, 01:57:46 PM
this a great sadness for our supporters, our player group is shocking and the coaches cant seem to prove that they will be able to reach the ultimate success.

At best our player group if everything goes well with development ... at best they have the capacity reach 7th or 8th position in any one year but not higher. If people think that having a ceiling of 7th or 8th is acceptable then they dont have any ambition for our club.

The truth is we stuffed up over the last few years and we followed up again this year with the McMahon trade.... Scott Selwood is gonna turn out to be another Franklin situation for us. These types of mistakes are not acceptable.

Jacko once again will be proven correct on all these matters.

We dont have a good side.

We dont have enough talent.

We recruit poorly.

The supporters are losing hope.

And we have supporters who believe our only hope is for us to finish on the bottom and get early picks to rectify the mistakes over the past 4 years - and yes I belong in this group of supporters because we are tired of watching rabble, of seeing the same mistakes being made over and over again.

Richmond people deserve better. Richmond people are loyal. Most other clubs would have gone out of business if theyd had the same level of performance over 25 years.

Richmonds Administration needs a new philosophy and new drive to reach for success because the current systems and football management are not working.

Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 15, 2008, 02:00:01 PM
Not even going to bothered answering you Moi
You have little idea, I shouldnt even bother replying to anything you write, and I wont anymore

Have a great year at the footy,


Ramps, great post, at least there is someone on here who doesnt walk around with there eyes closed and actually understand football


  
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Ramps on March 15, 2008, 02:14:48 PM
Im just sad that TAB Sportsbets arent taking bets on whether Richmond supporters will be going ape droppings by R11 not only on where we are on the ladder but why we have McMahon and why we DONT have Scott Selwood.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Moi on March 15, 2008, 02:19:49 PM
Not even going to bothered answering you Moi
You have little idea, I shouldnt even bother replying to anything you write, and I wont anymore
Sorry you will have to respond when I ask you to hand over the $100 at the end of the year.
Until then do as you wish lol
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 15, 2008, 02:50:18 PM
Not even going to bothered answering you Moi
You have little idea, I shouldnt even bother replying to anything you write, and I wont anymore
Sorry you will have to respond when I ask you to hand over the $100 at the end of the year.
Until then do as you wish lol


You are dreaming
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Moi on March 15, 2008, 02:51:03 PM
Not even going to bothered answering you Moi
You have little idea, I shouldnt even bother replying to anything you write, and I wont anymore
Sorry you will have to respond when I ask you to hand over the $100 at the end of the year.
Until then do as you wish lol


You are dreaming
Are you saying you wouldn't pay?
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 15, 2008, 02:57:30 PM
Im just sad that TAB Sportsbets arent taking bets on whether Richmond supporters will be going ape droppings by R11 not only on where we are on the ladder but why we have McMahon and why we DONT have Scott Selwood.

The bet should read as follows.

McMahon 12 games or more at Coburg  $1.33
             11 at each                         $2.00
             12 games or more at Richmond $3.15

Although this will become embrassing for the RFC, they will have to play him regardless of performance, hey look on the brightside, the reason they got him as they wont have to been seen as tanking if they keep playing him, mate, he cannot play and its an absolute disgrace that Selwood aint at Punt Road.
Most of the dreamers on this website dont realise this, hey if you thought Patty Bowden was as skunk, this guy is worse.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 15, 2008, 03:00:32 PM
Not even going to bothered answering you Moi
You have little idea, I shouldnt even bother replying to anything you write, and I wont anymore
Sorry you will have to respond when I ask you to hand over the $100 at the end of the year.
Until then do as you wish lol


The sun will go down tonite
The sun will come up in  morning
You will be paying me the $100 as RFC have no chance of being above the Bombers at years end,.
I will not be replying to any more of your posts till then,  not going to waste my time arguing with idiots

You are dreaming
Are you saying you wouldn't pay?
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Moi on March 15, 2008, 03:12:06 PM
Not even going to bothered answering you Moi
You have little idea, I shouldnt even bother replying to anything you write, and I wont anymore
Sorry you will have to respond when I ask you to hand over the $100 at the end of the year.
Until then do as you wish lol


The sun will go down tonite
The sun will come up in  morning
You will be paying me the $100 as RFC have no chance of being above the Bombers at years end,.
I will not be replying to any more of your posts till then,  not going to waste my time arguing with idiots

You are dreaming
Are you saying you wouldn't pay?
So you'd welsh on a bet
Fine, but let it be known I would have coughed up.
You obviously have no faith in what you say.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 15, 2008, 03:16:52 PM
$100, I dont think $100 is hardly going too break my bank dear ::)
Anyway, not going to lose it am I!
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Moi on March 15, 2008, 03:40:06 PM
$100, I dont think $100 is hardly going too break my bank dear ::)
Anyway, not going to lose it am I!
We'll see.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Francois Jackson on March 15, 2008, 05:07:45 PM
every time im gonna see selwood play ill think of miller and his pathetic lure of this mcmahon dud to punt road.
pathetic
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: blaisee on March 15, 2008, 06:29:03 PM
Im just sad that TAB Sportsbets arent taking bets on whether Richmond supporters will be going ape droppings by R11 not only on where we are on the ladder but why we have McMahon and why we DONT have Scott Selwood.

The bet should read as follows.

McMahon 12 games or more at Coburg  $1.33
             11 at each                         $2.00
             12 games or more at Richmond $3.15

Although this will become embrassing for the RFC, they will have to play him regardless of performance, hey look on the brightside, the reason they got him as they wont have to been seen as tanking if they keep playing him, mate, he cannot play and its an absolute disgrace that Selwood aint at Punt Road.
Most of the dreamers on this website dont realise this, hey if you thought Patty Bowden was as skunk, this guy is worse.


3.15 to play more than 12 games at richmond. geez jack, if you have the nuts I am happy to invest a guerilla.

Have you got the balls ...or just like everything else..you are full of crap ::)
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Smokey on March 15, 2008, 06:48:47 PM
3.15 to play more than 12 games at richmond. geez jack, if you have the nuts I am happy to invest a guerilla.

Have you got the balls ...or just like everything else..you are full of crap ::)
Me AND my punters club are also very very very interested in these odds.  If we can get on can you please let us know?
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Ramps on March 15, 2008, 07:40:42 PM
Im just sad that TAB Sportsbets arent taking bets on whether Richmond supporters will be going ape droppings by R11 not only on where we are on the ladder but why we have McMahon and why we DONT have Scott Selwood.

The bet should read as follows.

McMahon 12 games or more at Coburg  $1.33
             11 at each                         $2.00
             12 games or more at Richmond $3.15

Although this will become embrassing for the RFC, they will have to play him regardless of performance, hey look on the brightside, the reason they got him as they wont have to been seen as tanking if they keep playing him, mate, he cannot play and its an absolute disgrace that Selwood aint at Punt Road.
Most of the dreamers on this website dont realise this, hey if you thought Patty Bowden was as skunk, this guy is worse.


3.15 to play more than 12 games at richmond. geez jack, if you have the nuts I am happy to invest a guerilla.

Have you got the balls ...or just like everything else..you are full of crap ::)

Lets judge McMahon on how well he plays shall we. How many Bronlow Votes will he get and how well will he votes in the media best player voting. Lets also judge how Scott Selwood goes and who the supporters would of liked to have had at Punt Rd going forward.

Getting games is not a correct criteria. There have been plenty of very average footballers get games at RFC over the past 25 years Blaisee and you know it.

So how about you tell us how well McMahon will go in the brownlow count and in the media vote counts.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Fishfinger on March 15, 2008, 07:59:13 PM
Lets judge McMahon on how well he plays shall we.
Good call.  :thumbsup

Have you considered practicing what you preach?   ;)
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 15, 2008, 08:03:31 PM
Im just sad that TAB Sportsbets arent taking bets on whether Richmond supporters will be going ape droppings by R11 not only on where we are on the ladder but why we have McMahon and why we DONT have Scott Selwood.

The bet should read as follows.

McMahon 12 games or more at Coburg  $1.33
             11 at each                         $2.00
             12 games or more at Richmond $3.15

Although this will become embrassing for the RFC, they will have to play him regardless of performance, hey look on the brightside, the reason they got him as they wont have to been seen as tanking if they keep playing him, mate, he cannot play and its an absolute disgrace that Selwood aint at Punt Road.
Most of the dreamers on this website dont realise this, hey if you thought Patty Bowden was as skunk, this guy is worse.


3.15 to play more than 12 games at richmond. geez jack, if you have the nuts I am happy to invest a guerilla.

Have you got the balls ...or just like everything else..you are full of crap ::)

You obviously arent a punter, no mention of a quinella there.
There the odds sports bet should be offering on this dud.
By the way, if you think he can play, you are totally deluded.
I actually watched him play at Werribee last year and he is a disgrace, he is worse than Patty Bowden, oh yeah, they have all swept Patty Bowden under the carpet havent they. I actually been to his restaurant a few times, Num num Birdies, well named lol
By the way, I have got the balls, I punt well beyond my means
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 15, 2008, 08:05:49 PM
Lets judge McMahon on how well he plays shall we.
Good call.  :thumbsup

Have you considered practicing what you preach?   ;)
Forget about that, seen him 8  time slast year at Dogs and Werribbee, is a disgrace!
If you all thought Patty Bowden was bad,wait till you get to know this lightweight :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Ramps on March 15, 2008, 08:05:59 PM
Lets judge McMahon on how well he plays shall we.
Good call.  :thumbsup

Have you considered practicing what you preach?   ;)

Dont need to, I have a fair idea whats gonna happen. Blaisee was trying to lower the level of the bar in terms of McMahon and I just put it back where it should be. The question is 1 and only 1.

At R22 of 2008 will Richmond supporters be happy with McMahon or will they be raging with anger if Scott Selwood is playing well? thats it. Thats the criteria.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Moi on March 15, 2008, 08:06:28 PM
I punt well beyond my means
:rollin
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 15, 2008, 08:14:19 PM
Lets judge McMahon on how well he plays shall we.
Good call.  :thumbsup

Have you considered practicing what you preach?   ;)

Dont need to, I have a fair idea whats gonna happen. Blaisee was trying to lower the level of the bar in terms of McMahon and I just put it back where it should be. The question is 1 and only 1.

At R22 of 2008 will Richmond supporters be happy with McMahon or will they be raging with anger if Scott Selwood is playing well? thats it. Thats the criteria.

McMahon has been in the system long enough too know that he cant play, just one person who happens to be an Ex Coach thinks he can perform miracles ala Patty Bowden.
Tell you something funny, when Wallet first came to Richmond, he was hell bent on trying to get Mark Alvey, the supporters would of rioted, this isnt much different I am afraid.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 16, 2008, 10:22:40 AM
I actually been to his restaurant a few times, Num num Birdies, well named lol

Err Jack ....

It's Birdie Num Nums ... not Num Num Birdies  ;D
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 16, 2008, 12:26:52 PM
I actually been to his restaurant a few times, Num num Birdies, well named lol

Err Jack ....

It's Birdie Num Nums ... not Num Num Birdies  ;D

Have been very" num num "there a few times, lol :cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers
Pireus Blues as well,
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: crackertiger on March 16, 2008, 07:08:44 PM
If Richmond play anything like they did at Geelong the other day, none of the Wallace defending spin will save him!

Jackstar will own this forum. :help

Gracie, Blaisie and others will have no where to hide.
 
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Infamy on March 16, 2008, 07:19:31 PM
every time im gonna see selwood play ill think of miller and his pathetic lure of this mcmahon dud to punt road.
pathetic
It was Wallace who wanted him, not Miller. Miller just had to get the trade done.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Francois Jackson on March 16, 2008, 07:30:20 PM
every time im gonna see selwood play ill think of miller and his pathetic lure of this mcmahon dud to punt road.
pathetic
It was Wallace who wanted him, not Miller. Miller just had to get the trade done.
\
it was both of them. they r the 2 idiots who wanted him
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 16, 2008, 07:32:45 PM
every time im gonna see selwood play ill think of miller and his pathetic lure of this mcmahon dud to punt road.
pathetic
It was Wallace who wanted him, not Miller. Miller just had to get the trade done.

Can tell you Wallet loves him, same as he loved Patty Bowden.
Why would any club want to gain a player who is totally non-accountable, we need accountable footballers.
The Selwood thing will bite Richmond big!
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: WA Tiger on March 16, 2008, 07:54:09 PM
Why don't some of you lot just wait until McMahon has a few games under his belt with us until you hang him??
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Moi on March 16, 2008, 07:57:46 PM
Why don't some of you lot just wait until McMahon has a few games under his belt with us until you hang him??
I bet you even if he plays well these blokes won't let up.
Playing well isn't part of the agenda for them
Either is support of any kind
Just bag everything and everyone
Beyond boring and ruining the site unfortunately  :help
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Mopsy on March 16, 2008, 08:08:33 PM
Why don't some of you lot just wait until McMahon has a few games under his belt with us until you hang him??
I bet you even if he plays well these blokes won't let up.
Playing well isn't part of the agenda for them
Either is support of any kind
Just bag everything and everyone
Beyond boring and ruining the site unfortunately  :help
Yeah! I am getting jack! of their crap! :chuck
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 16, 2008, 08:10:05 PM
Why don't some of you lot just wait until McMahon has a few games under his belt with us until you hang him??
I bet you even if he plays well these blokes won't let up.
Playing well isn't part of the agenda for them
Either is support of any kind
Just bag everything and everyone
Beyond boring and ruining the site unfortunately  :help

Ruining the site :lol
Its most footballer public opinions  that the deal was laughable, He has been in the system for 6 years and I hate to say this, he aint much good, thats my opinion of course, probably the Bulldogs opinion as well, Played at Werribbe last year which is a real concern seeing the doggies nosedived in the 2nd half of the year.
You will have to see for yourself, wont you.
Patty Bowden all over again and a waste of a trade/draft pick
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 16, 2008, 08:12:07 PM
Why don't some of you lot just wait until McMahon has a few games under his belt with us until you hang him??
I bet you even if he plays well these blokes won't let up.
Playing well isn't part of the agenda for them
Either is support of any kind
Just bag everything and everyone
Beyond boring and ruining the site unfortunately  :help
Yeah! I am getting jack! of their crap! :chuck

Dont complain when we finish down the bottom then !
6 out 8 in todays paper picked us for the spoon  today,I wonder why????
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Mopsy on March 16, 2008, 08:26:56 PM
Why don't some of you lot just wait until McMahon has a few games under his belt with us until you hang him??
I bet you even if he plays well these blokes won't let up.
Playing well isn't part of the agenda for them
Either is support of any kind
Just bag everything and everyone
Beyond boring and ruining the site unfortunately  :help
Yeah! I am getting jack! of their crap! :chuck

Dont complain when we finish down the bottom then !
6 out 8 in todays paper picked us for the spoon  today,I wonder why????
Jackstar i have barracked for the tigers for as long as my 75 years will let me remember 'i was at the 1943 grand final' and never once have i ever complained about  where the club finished on the ladder in that time. i firmly believe that to be a good supporter you take the good times with the bad and any supporter who has not been talented enough to wear their clubs colours on the field. have no right to criticise those that do.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Ramps on March 16, 2008, 08:27:10 PM
Why don't some of you lot just wait until McMahon has a few games under his belt with us until you hang him??
I bet you even if he plays well these blokes won't let up.
Playing well isn't part of the agenda for them
Either is support of any kind
Just bag everything and everyone
Beyond boring and ruining the site unfortunately  :help

Everyones entitled to there view Moi. No site is being ruined. This site is a success because we have people like you and mopsy and blaisee and co. and then theres Jacko and co. Who provide a cutting edge dialogue to this site with focus on the realities of it all. Thats how it works. Your truth and Jackos Truth is different ... time will tell whose truth will be proven to be correct.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Moi on March 16, 2008, 08:43:06 PM
Why don't some of you lot just wait until McMahon has a few games under his belt with us until you hang him??
I bet you even if he plays well these blokes won't let up.
Playing well isn't part of the agenda for them
Either is support of any kind
Just bag everything and everyone
Beyond boring and ruining the site unfortunately  :help

Everyones entitled to there view Moi. No site is being ruined. This site is a success because we have people like you and mopsy and blaisee and co. and then theres Jacko and co. Who provide a cutting edge dialogue to this site with focus on the realities of it all. Thats how it works. Your truth and Jackos Truth is different ... time will tell whose truth will be proven to be correct.
You mean those who support the club vs those who couldn't give a stuff?
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: rogerd3 on March 16, 2008, 10:01:08 PM
Why don't some of you lot just wait until McMahon has a few games under his belt with us until you hang him??
I bet you even if he plays well these blokes won't let up.
Playing well isn't part of the agenda for them
Either is support of any kind
Just bag everything and everyone
Beyond boring and ruining the site unfortunately  :help
Yeah! I am getting jack! of their crap! :chuck

Dont complain when we finish down the bottom then !
6 out 8 in todays paper picked us for the spoon  today,I wonder why????

so by your reasoning if these co-called experts made these predictions about the make-up of the end of season ladder in 08 they must be right.
mate you crack me up :lol
wonder what happens to say Carlton if Fev and Judd break down.
these so called experts dont know how the season will unfold just as you or i dont. :whistle...unless you have a crystal ball hanging around somewhere.

how about supporting the team you supposedly barrack for instead i trying to undermine it with every opportunity as i said previously you are the true meaning of the word paradox
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: WA Tiger on March 17, 2008, 11:37:40 AM
Why don't some of you lot just wait until McMahon has a few games under his belt with us until you hang him??
I bet you even if he plays well these blokes won't let up.
Playing well isn't part of the agenda for them
Either is support of any kind
Just bag everything and everyone
Beyond boring and ruining the site unfortunately  :help

Couldn't agree any more Moi, they don't even deserve to be Tiger supporters and Probably aren't, hey Jackstar I have heard nothing but rubbish from your posts since I started posting here regarding the players and Wallace. Name a coach that actually came into this club of ours and cleaned out the poo and turned over as many players as he has to try to find a group that clicks. Also when was the last time we had stability in the playing group and the board. Mmmmmm I would say we have improved out of site, we actually made money this year for the first time in many years. I suppose your not happy about that either, we made that money because of our current group including Wallace.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Francois Jackson on March 17, 2008, 11:58:00 AM
Why don't some of you lot just wait until McMahon has a few games under his belt with us until you hang him??
I bet you even if he plays well these blokes won't let up.
Playing well isn't part of the agenda for them
Either is support of any kind
Just bag everything and everyone
Beyond boring and ruining the site unfortunately  :help

are you fair dinkum? if thats what you believe you have serious issues.
personally i give credit where credit is due like players and staff who deserve it like richo, kingy, foley and a few others i cant even be bothered mentioning
gary march has done a great job as well. i have the right like you to say what i want and about who i want. im sorry i dont live in a bubble as you clearly do and believe that the rfc cant put a foot wrong. There is a reason we have made the finals twice since 1982 and that is because our culture sucks. We don't have heart and you can sit here all you like and say we got to be positive and this and that but the fact remains that on field we have been a disaster zone for many years now.
we don't have a heart like other clubs do but in saying that its supporters like us who keep this club going.
ive said countless times most other clubs would be gone for all money if they had our success in the last 20 odd years.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: WA Tiger on March 17, 2008, 12:09:12 PM
Why don't some of you lot just wait until McMahon has a few games under his belt with us until you hang him??
I bet you even if he plays well these blokes won't let up.
Playing well isn't part of the agenda for them
Either is support of any kind
Just bag everything and everyone
Beyond boring and ruining the site unfortunately  :help

are you fair dinkum? if thats what you believe you have serious issues.
personally i give credit where credit is due like players and staff who deserve it like richo, kingy, foley and a few others i cant even be bothered mentioning
gary march has done a great job as well. i have the right like you to say what i want and about who i want. im sorry i dont live in a bubble as you clearly do and believe that the rfc cant put a foot wrong. There is a reason we have made the finals twice since 1982 and that is because our culture sucks. We don't have heart and you can sit here all you like and say we got to be positive and this and that but the fact remains that on field we have been a disaster zone for many years now.
we don't have a heart like other clubs do but in saying that its supporters like us who keep this club going.
ive said countless times most other clubs would be gone for all money if they had our success in the last 20 odd years.

 :banghead, Sorry mate (no I am not!!) just trying to be a bit positive. So where are the names of these coaches since 1980 please (not Northey) that have go into the mess Wallace went into and have actually changed it, cleaned it out and started a re-building program that by the way took Bomber Thompson 8 years to do with people continually calling for his head. Get out of your negative bubble and get behind the club!! If you don't think we are heading in the right direction then that bubble of yours would have to be full of smoke. Go down to the club and let them know what you think.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Francois Jackson on March 17, 2008, 12:16:01 PM
jordy mcmahon is not heading in the right direction.not spending money on administration and recruiting is not going in the right direction. as for rebuilding yeah so why the hell is players like tivers and hyde still on our list. they are a joke. If you think i dont tell the club my thoughts you are so wrong pal, last year i let greg miller my thoughts a few times via email
jake king, foley, lids, even daniel jackson is heading in the right direction. sugar as captain come on mate you seriously agree with that and why the hell are duds like meyer and schulz still on our list. If wallace was hell bent on a clean out then these 2 should've been shown the door but they continue to squeze every last dollar out of the rfc and what do we get in return. SFA!!
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Moi on March 17, 2008, 01:24:32 PM
Why don't some of you lot just wait until McMahon has a few games under his belt with us until you hang him??
I bet you even if he plays well these blokes won't let up.
Playing well isn't part of the agenda for them
Either is support of any kind
Just bag everything and everyone
Beyond boring and ruining the site unfortunately  :help

are you fair dinkum? if thats what you believe you have serious issues.
personally i give credit where credit is due like players and staff who deserve it like richo, kingy, foley and a few others i cant even be bothered mentioning
gary march has done a great job as well. i have the right like you to say what i want and about who i want. im sorry i dont live in a bubble as you clearly do and believe that the rfc cant put a foot wrong. There is a reason we have made the finals twice since 1982 and that is because our culture sucks. We don't have heart and you can sit here all you like and say we got to be positive and this and that but the fact remains that on field we have been a disaster zone for many years now.
we don't have a heart like other clubs do but in saying that its supporters like us who keep this club going.
ive said countless times most other clubs would be gone for all money if they had our success in the last 20 odd years.

Not asking you to be positive all the time, just when positiveness is warranted.
After a win maybe, instead of coming here and bagging the crap out of everyone regardness.
I'm asking you to get behind the "process", the process Wallace is implementing.
Knowiing that there will be highs and lows in that process.  We are at the lows at the moment, and it's only until you get games into the new recruits will it start to get higher.
Or not.
There are no guarantees and even I'm not that stupid to not see that.
But I'm willing to let him have it his way for the five years because nothing else has bloody well worked in the past.
Or have I missed something?
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: {X} on March 17, 2008, 03:50:23 PM
jordy mcmahon is not heading in the right direction.

have not seen him play a bad game for rfc yet. maybe you know something i dont, but what i do know he is a young but mature player, highly skilled, fast and has many yrs ahead of him still.

judge him at yrs end not now
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Tigermonk on March 17, 2008, 04:42:36 PM
welcome back from your holiday X  ;D  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: WA Tiger on March 17, 2008, 05:06:42 PM
jordy mcmahon is not heading in the right direction.

have not seen him play a bad game for rfc yet. maybe you know something i dont, but what i do know he is a young but mature player, highly skilled, fast and has many yrs ahead of him still.

judge him at yrs end not now

Yep and further to that from what I have heard he has been getting plenty of the ball and using it very well in the pre-season matches.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 17, 2008, 05:15:01 PM
jordy mcmahon is not heading in the right direction.

have not seen him play a bad game for rfc yet. maybe you know something i dont, but what i do know he is a young but mature player, highly skilled, fast and has many yrs ahead of him still.

judge him at yrs end not now

Yep and further to that from what I have heard he has been getting plenty of the ball and using it very well in the pre-season matches.




Jordon got plenty of the ball at Werribee as well last year.
We traded pick 18 for him,we could of got young selwood for that draft pick.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Moi on March 17, 2008, 05:28:41 PM
jordy mcmahon is not heading in the right direction.

have not seen him play a bad game for rfc yet. maybe you know something i dont, but what i do know he is a young but mature player, highly skilled, fast and has many yrs ahead of him still.

judge him at yrs end not now

Yep and further to that from what I have heard he has been getting plenty of the ball and using it very well in the pre-season matches.




Jordon got plenty of the ball at Werribee as well last year.
We traded pick 18 for him,we could of got young selwood for that draft pick.

He went at pick 22, lots of teams overlooked him
Maybe Selwood ain't as promising as the rest of the family.
And if he was, why didn't he go earlier?
I wouldn't have a clue but you others must be a full book seeing as the club has made such a monumental error  ::)
How good is he anyone?
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: {X} on March 17, 2008, 05:30:33 PM
jordy mcmahon is not heading in the right direction.

have not seen him play a bad game for rfc yet. maybe you know something i dont, but what i do know he is a young but mature player, highly skilled, fast and has many yrs ahead of him still.

judge him at yrs end not now

Yep and further to that from what I have heard he has been getting plenty of the ball and using it very well in the pre-season matches.




Jordon got plenty of the ball at Werribee as well last year.
We traded pick 18 for him,we could of got young selwood for that draft pick.


yawn
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: WA Tiger on March 17, 2008, 05:31:10 PM
jordy mcmahon is not heading in the right direction.

have not seen him play a bad game for rfc yet. maybe you know something i dont, but what i do know he is a young but mature player, highly skilled, fast and has many yrs ahead of him still.

judge him at yrs end not now

Yep and further to that from what I have heard he has been getting plenty of the ball and using it very well in the pre-season matches.




Jordon got plenty of the ball at Werribee as well last year.
We traded pick 18 for him,we could of got young selwood for that draft pick.


And sorry to miss it but what has he done so far and how do you know that he will be better???
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Little Jackie on March 17, 2008, 07:06:20 PM
jordy mcmahon is not heading in the right direction.

have not seen him play a bad game for rfc yet. maybe you know something i dont, but what i do know he is a young but mature player, highly skilled, fast and has many yrs ahead of him still.

judge him at yrs end not now

Yep and further to that from what I have heard he has been getting plenty of the ball and using it very well in the pre-season matches.




Jordon got plenty of the ball at Werribee as well last year.
We traded pick 18 for him,we could of got young selwood for that draft pick.

He went at pick 22, lots of teams overlooked him
Maybe Selwood ain't as promising as the rest of the family.
And if he was, why didn't he go earlier?
I wouldn't have a clue but you others must be a full book seeing as the club has made such a monumental error  ::)
How good is he anyone?

Would have to be better than someone who has been in the system for 6 years and keeps on dodging imaginative witches hats when he plays.
At least the tiges are going to supply some humour this year, can just imagine Tivendale to McMahon back to Tivendale back to McMahon. Thats the problem at Richmond , we aint got enough good players to win the ball when in dispute, too many players that want to Zone Off, there lies the problem, OR are you all blind here .?

also RFC was crazy to Trade any first or 2nd round picks,
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: 1965 on March 17, 2008, 07:09:36 PM

Would have to be better than someone who has been in the system for 6 years and keeps on dodging imaginative witches hats when he plays.
At least the tiges are going to supply some humour this year, can just imagine Tivendale to McMahon back to Tivendale back to McMahon. Thats the problem at Richmond , we aint got enough good players to win the ball when in dispute, too many players that want to Zone Off, there lies the problem, OR are you all blind here .?

also RFC was crazy to Trade any first or 2nd round picks,

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Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Francois Jackson on March 17, 2008, 07:13:57 PM
jordy mcmahon is not heading in the right direction.







ck.






Would have to be better than someone who has been in the system for 6 years and keeps on dodging imaginative witches hats when he plays.
At least the tiges are going to supply some humour this year, can just imagine Tivendale to McMahon back to Tivendale back to McMahon. Thats the problem at Richmond , we aint got enough good players to win the ball when in dispute, too many players that want to Zone Off, there lies the problem, OR are you all blind here .?

also RFC was crazy to Trade any first or 2nd round picks,

im affriad there are a few who are blind. we have too many players who are not accountable for their man. this zone off crap, sideways footy is our downfall. we are not skillful enough to pull it off but obviously terry and his carlton crew know best
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: harry bosch on March 17, 2008, 07:19:09 PM
Regardless of how selwood develops giving up early picks for establised players like Mcmahon is a mistake..
The only real way to build a list is through young talent and giving up early picks should only be done for special cases
and even then i would be reluctant..
With F Jackson we have shown improvement in selecting talented young players , hopefully with Craig Cameron here now we will start to realise you also need to keep draft picks..
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Moi on March 17, 2008, 07:23:28 PM
Regardless of how selwood develops giving up early picks for establised players like Mcmahon is a mistake..
The only real way to build a list is through young talent and giving up early picks should only be done for special cases
and even then i would be reluctant..
With F Jackson we have shown improvement in selecting talented young players , hopefully with Craig Cameron here now we will start to realise you also need to keep draft picks..
Everyone said that this draft was only 20 deep, so I don't have a problem with picking up a ready made player versus one that went at 22 on this occasion.
But normally I would agree with you Harry, this draft is for kids.
Title: Re: Wallace on SEN
Post by: Ramps on March 17, 2008, 07:30:36 PM
I wanted Selwood coz I believe we are soft as a club. Its the same reason I wanted Hurn. We need bigger bodies and some players with aggression.