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Title: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: one-eyed on May 04, 2008, 08:46:29 PM
What changes, if any, would you make for the Geelong game?
Title: Re: Changes for this week vs Cats?
Post by: mjs on May 04, 2008, 08:50:05 PM
What changes, if any, would you make this week for the Geelong game?

Did Cotchin play anywhere this week?
Title: Re: Changes for this week vs Cats?
Post by: TFL on May 04, 2008, 09:13:25 PM
Will be interesting to see which players from last nights game play this Saturday for Coburg, we are playing Collingwood and with Richo the only player looking like playing Saturday night that makes everyone else available.

Should be a decent game this week between Coburg and Collingwood.
Title: Re: Changes for this week vs Cats?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 04, 2008, 09:19:56 PM
Will be interesting to see which players from last nights game play this Saturday for Coburg, we are playing Collingwood and with Richo the only player looking like playing Saturday night that makes everyone else available.

Would think that "everyone being available" would be highly unlikely TFL - with it being an AFL "bye" for those not playing in the nuffin game on Saturday night - VFL clubs would need get permission for those who did not play in the VFL the week before. Would think it would be doubtful that anyone fromlast nights game would be allowed to play this week
Title: Re: Changes for this week vs Cats?
Post by: Tigermonk on May 04, 2008, 10:59:47 PM
Its a rest weekend for the players so you wont see many playing
Skunks VFL team is a nothing anyway everyone flogs them  ;D

As for changes against Geelong it wont matter cause they going to give us a football lesson we aint going to forget
with the preasure they put on sides our side will crumble with the ugly mistakes we make
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: mightytiges on May 05, 2008, 03:34:37 AM
Polak if he's okay? back in for poor Jacko who didn't have clue on Saturday night.

Any other changes would depend on what the RFC Coburg boys put their hand up this week against Collingwood.

TM the way Coburg is playing at the moment no game is a gimme for them. The Burgers just got over the line against a winless Box Hill.
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: {X} on May 05, 2008, 07:01:04 AM
jacko is safe

polak in / schulz out

cotchin in / newman or jordy out
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 05, 2008, 09:55:30 AM
jacko is safe

polak in / schulz out

cotchin in / newman or jordy out

100% agree X
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: Ramps on May 05, 2008, 10:04:36 AM
Cotchin should debut vs Essendon. Against Essendon he'll get more of the footy.
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: Tigermonk on May 05, 2008, 10:25:05 AM
Cotchin should be put in for Geelong, so he knows what workrate he has to acheive to play the best in the comp



Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: Stripes on May 05, 2008, 12:59:02 PM
Cotchin should be given another 5 games to build up his endurance and fitness. He missed preseason and is still only a baby. I want him earning his place in the team and coming into the side confident and ready. When he arrives I want him to arrive with a bang not underdone.

Polak for Jackson.

Stripes
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: richmondrules on May 05, 2008, 02:50:04 PM
Hopefully Cotch plays senior Coburg this week so I can see him on the tele. Like most supporter who haven't had the chance to see him play I am really impatient and excited.

Even so I acknowledge his age and inexperience so if it takes another 5 weeks, 6 weeks, 10 weeks for him to debut in the RFC seniors then so be it. What is best for him in the long term is what I want to happen.

I actually hope he has difficulty getting into the side since this should indicate we are going well and the boys are playing strongly.
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: {X} on May 05, 2008, 02:53:45 PM
selwood walked straight into the cats team cos he had a strong body

sure cotch had no preseason but hie youth and enthusiam will get him through

with all the rotations that happen all he needs is 7 minutes a quarter, surely he can do that
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: Stripes on May 05, 2008, 03:39:34 PM
Do we want to hand him a spot on a platter? I don't think this would be good for him or the other players fighting for a place in the team. He needs to earn it. This will nesure we continue to strengthen our depth and that Cotch is playing at full fitness and is in form.

Stripes
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: {X} on May 05, 2008, 03:57:11 PM
his class form and skill is alot better than say king and newman , so why not
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: mightytiges on May 05, 2008, 04:52:16 PM
Cotchin should debut vs Essendon. Against Essendon he'll get more of the footy.
I won't have a problem if they hold Cotch's debut off longer but I think you'll be on the money Ramps. Play him off the bench in spurts in the centre and up forward.
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: Smokey on May 05, 2008, 06:25:01 PM
his class form and skill is alot better than say king and newman , so why not
Because he is not nearly match-hardened enough to play at the senior level yet.  He is still 2-4 weeks off being ready and the club have already said that they will not be rushing him.
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: Stripes on May 05, 2008, 09:17:14 PM
So who will he replace?
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: tigersalive on May 05, 2008, 10:13:19 PM
selwood walked straight into the cats team cos he had a strong body

sure cotch had no preseason but hie youth and enthusiam will get him through

with all the rotations that happen all he needs is 7 minutes a quarter, surely he can do that

Cant afford to have a player than can only play 35% of the game against the cats.
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: mightytiges on May 10, 2008, 08:08:16 PM
After today I think Polak will come back in for Jacko.
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: {X} on May 11, 2008, 09:20:02 AM
after yesterday, cotchin is more than ready
selwood walked straight into the cats team cos he had a strong body

sure cotch had no preseason but hie youth and enthusiam will get him through

with all the rotations that happen all he needs is 7 minutes a quarter, surely he can do that

Cant afford to have a player than can only play 35% of the game against the cats.

selwood only played 1 good quarter, 20 minutes of footy v the dockers and won the game for them.
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: tigersalive on May 11, 2008, 08:26:12 PM
after yesterday, cotchin is more than ready
selwood walked straight into the cats team cos he had a strong body

sure cotch had no preseason but hie youth and enthusiam will get him through

with all the rotations that happen all he needs is 7 minutes a quarter, surely he can do that

Cant afford to have a player than can only play 35% of the game against the cats.

selwood only played 1 good quarter, 20 minutes of footy v the dockers and won the game for them.

Well if you want to have him sit on the pine and reduce rotations all match for a last quarter burst from Cotch fair enough but I'd rather wait until he can do about 60-65% and then bring him in.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: {X} on May 11, 2008, 08:32:20 PM
he is ready to play 15 to 20 min each quarter. Thats good enough for me
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: TFL on May 11, 2008, 09:16:20 PM
I would think Polo or Bowden will come into the side this week, not sure if anyone else will be dropped.

Jackson would be lucky to hold his spot and i think Polak will be back in for him and Sarge should retain his spot.

Will be interesting to see if McMahon does.
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 11, 2008, 09:18:40 PM
Changes..... could depend on the weather they are predicting showers... which probably means nothing :-\ ;D
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: TFL on May 11, 2008, 09:32:09 PM
Was actually speaking to someone just now and the word is that someone will be dropped this week who had 0 tackles last week.

Just checked the stats on the AFL website and Newman, Morton, Simmonds, Edwards and Shultz all failed to register according to their data.

If this information is correct, who will it be? It sort of makes sense with the recent emphasis on tackling and defensive pressure.
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: tigersalive on May 11, 2008, 11:07:36 PM
I cant see any of those being dropped Schulz was the only one in the firing line and he held his spot based on yesterday.  :thumbsup

McMahon and Jacko can go back to Coburg.

Bowden and Polak can come in.
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: Darth Tiger on May 11, 2008, 11:35:16 PM
In - Polak, can pinch hit either end and add a rotation for the >192cm talls.

Out - Jacko needs solid game time & more form at Coburg to make an impact at AFL level.
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: mightytiges on May 12, 2008, 02:16:09 AM
Was actually speaking to someone just now and the word is that someone will be dropped this week who had 0 tackles last week.

Just checked the stats on the AFL website and Newman, Morton, Simmonds, Edwards and Shultz all failed to register according to their data.

If this information is correct, who will it be? It sort of makes sense with the recent emphasis on tackling and defensive pressure.
Agree with TA about those 5 being safe but if you had to choose from just those 5 then with Sarge saving himself on Saturday it would come down to Newy or Edwards. I'm a Newy fan but he's been ordinary the last 2 weeks  :-\ while Edwards looked stuffed at quarter time of the Saints game although he had a nice little cameo with Jack in the last quarter.

I still think though it'll be just the one change - Polak in; Jacko out.
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: torch on May 12, 2008, 02:23:26 AM
Ins - Cotchin, Hughes

Outs - Hyde, Jackson
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: blx on May 12, 2008, 02:30:23 AM
speed is the key to this game.

i would rather see us go small in the forward line.
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: julzqld on May 12, 2008, 07:40:40 AM
Will Ablett be playing?  And we need someone to take out Ling.
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: tigersalive on May 12, 2008, 08:17:06 AM
Ins - Cotchin, Hughes

Outs - Hyde, Jackson

Didnt watch the Saints game hey and just looked at the stats sheet?

Hyde smothered Montagna.
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: Smokey on May 12, 2008, 09:10:47 AM
Ins - Cotchin, Hughes

Outs - Hyde, Jackson

Didnt watch the Saints game hey and just looked at the stats sheet?

Hyde smothered Montagna.
Yep, Montagna was very, very noticeable by his absence.  Hyde did a real number on him which was critical because Montagna normally does very well against us.  FWIW I think Edwards will be dropped - he looked underdone and off the pace on Saturday and I reckon a couple of weeks of 100% game time and rebuild of some confidence will work wonders.
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 12, 2008, 09:16:12 AM
Hyde should stay in the team
Montagna is a gun and you know what i never saw him once at the Saints game.

We should stand him side by side with Bartel or Ablett if he plays..

I hope Ottens doesn't play i cant stand that soft piece of poo. i think his coming back this week..
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: bushranger on May 12, 2008, 09:44:20 AM
I just would like to see Mooney knocked out after what he said about Victoria, which was, I hate Victoria. And the dope is playing in Victoria and is happy to take the money. If he hates it here then go back to the Swans.
I have never liked him as he thinks he's a thug, but he's only a wanna be but will never be, but only will be when it comes to kids that are on him and he can over power them. So lets put Polack on him and I bet he will play a crap game as he will be to scared to push him around.
So if this happens I will be happy win or lose.  :gotigers
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 12, 2008, 09:47:03 AM
im worried about steve johnson more than anyone.
medium size forward and smalls are our biggest issue at the moment.

once they get a sniff they can easily bag 5 b4 u know it.

who is our best match up for him??
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: bushranger on May 12, 2008, 09:49:32 AM
I would put young Moore on him. I think he's strong enough to compete with him and good enough to cut him out of the game.
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 12, 2008, 02:42:17 PM
im worried about steve johnson more than anyone.


Agree - he cuts us up every time. I don't even want to remember 2007 :'( :'(

The match up - McGuane for mine although if we are looking for someone outside the current side (that is who played against the saints) a Polo or even a Connors - footballers rather than athletes
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: richmondrules on May 12, 2008, 07:27:51 PM
Rumour on PRE that Cotchin will debut on the weekend. Only a rumour but supported by 2 posters.
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: mjs on May 12, 2008, 08:04:57 PM
Rumour on PRE that Cotchin will debut on the weekend. Only a rumour but supported by 2 posters.

PRE?

Is that another site? Sounds innerestin   ;)

Do you have the link?

Maybe that's where Jack's gone ?

Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: Tiger2020 on May 12, 2008, 08:36:05 PM
Speaking of changes for this week - has anyone heard anything else on Kingy and his wrist??
Haven't seen anything from the club or in the papers  :-\
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: richoman on May 12, 2008, 10:39:53 PM
im worried about steve johnson more than anyone.
medium size forward and smalls are our biggest issue at the moment.

once they get a sniff they can easily bag 5 b4 u know it.

who is our best match up for him??

 
i think moore is quick is strong and rebounds well.
Title: "I wouldn't expect too many changes" - Miller
Post by: one-eyed on May 13, 2008, 02:32:21 AM
We won't go back for seconds
Jon Ralph | May 13, 2008 12:00am

RICHMOND'S VFL stars face more time at Coburg, with the Tigers intent on keeping a settled side for Saturday's clash against Geelong. The Tigers have only Andrew Raines missing from their best 22, which is putting enormous selection pressure on the senior side.

Joel Bowden, Graham Polak, Kayne Pettifer, Greg Tivendale and young draftee Trent Cotchin all pushed for selection playing with Coburg on Saturday.

But with the Tigers taking on reigning premier Geelong after a month of solid football, they may have to do more to win back their places.

Cotchin, who was drafted at No. 2 behind Matthew Kreuzer last year, would have been into the side at any other time in Wallace's reign.

But despite exciting Tigers insiders with his progress in four games since recovering from achilles soreness, he may be a fortnight away.

Cotchin is still building fitness after missing the entire pre-season, but has shown enough to warrant the lofty predictions made of him.

New-look forward Bowden is no certainty to return this week, despite a month of solid football in the VFL.

The Tigers are aware they must make a breakthrough in coming weeks after a last-gasp draw with the Bulldogs and honourable losses to St Kilda and Hawthorn.

Mark Coughlan has pulled up well from the Coburg game after finally recovering from hamstring soreness associated with his twin knee reconstructions.

Football director Greg Miller said yesterday the match committee would scrutinise the VFL performances in coming days.

"We had a few guys play well against Collingwood in the VFL. As to where that puts us in relation to selection, I think our side has been pretty settled the last four weeks," he said

"I wouldn't expect too many changes."

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23688609-19742,00.html
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: one-eyed on May 13, 2008, 02:37:10 AM
Speaking of changes for this week - has anyone heard anything else on Kingy and his wrist??
Haven't seen anything from the club or in the papers  :-\
Welcome to OER Tiger2020  :).

SEN contacted the club on Sunday and they said the club believes it is only a "small" fracture in the wrist and they're hoping Kingy will be okay to play on Saturday.
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: mightytiges on May 13, 2008, 04:23:53 PM
Good to see we are starting to get some depth that we can be picky at the selection table.

I'm also happy Cotch's debut won't be rushed. His future is 2009 and beyond so there's plenty of time to be patient.

im worried about steve johnson more than anyone.
medium size forward and smalls are our biggest issue at the moment.

once they get a sniff they can easily bag 5 b4 u know it.

who is our best match up for him??
I would go Moore. Kel's done decent jobs on Buddy and Gehrig who like Johnson can turn it on. Leave Thursty and McGuane for Mooney and Hawkins.
Title: Re: Changes vs Cats?
Post by: Tiger2020 on May 13, 2008, 08:16:05 PM
Speaking of changes for this week - has anyone heard anything else on Kingy and his wrist??
Haven't seen anything from the club or in the papers  :-\
Welcome to OER Tiger2020  :).

SEN contacted the club on Sunday and they said the club believes it is only a "small" fracture in the wrist and they're hoping Kingy will be okay to play on Saturday.

Thanks for the update - and the welcome  ;D