One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 08, 2008, 05:50:52 PM
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Ablett has a slight tear in his calf and will miss the hall of fame game after missing last week's game for Geelong. He must be in some doubt for our game in 9 days time.
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bet ya he plays
the way hyde has been tagging surely he will get the job on ablett
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bet ya he plays
the way hyde has been tagging surely he will get the job on ablett
If Ablett does play then it's whether Hydey can stick close to him when Ablett pushes forward. McGuane played on Ablett when forward last time down at Geelong and did okay on him.
The Cat forward that constantly does us over is Steve Johnson. Usually gets his 4-5 goals including pulling one or two out of his backside.
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Ottens and Ablett will be tested and could play against us.
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Ottens could return against Richmond
Ben Broad
4:09 PM Sun 11 May, 2008
“He’ll be tested later in the week, so we’ll see how his week progresses – likewise with Ablett … Both those guys will be tested and we’ll see if they’re available to play.”
“Milburn just bruised some ribs, but he’s the only one. He should be available to play next week, and there’s no concerns with any others (11 Cats played last night) which is good.”
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=59434
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I'll be down for the game. I'm looking forward to it and feeling a lot more confident than when I booked my ticket at the start of the year.
Anyone else from OER going?
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I'll be down for the game. I'm looking forward to it and feeling a lot more confident than when I booked my ticket at the start of the year.
Anyone else from OER going?
As usual, the curtain raiser at 10:30 is Coburg Geelong too, don't forget.
Big test for Lids, Cling will go straight to him and I will be watching with interest.
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I'll be down for the game. I'm looking forward to it and feeling a lot more confident than when I booked my ticket at the start of the year.
Anyone else from OER going?
As usual, the curtain raiser at 10:30 is Coburg Geelong too, don't forget.
Big test for Lids, Cling will go straight to him and I will be watching with interest.
Foley vs. Ling
I'd love to see Lids vs Corey. :thumbsup
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I'll be down for the game. I'm looking forward to it and feeling a lot more confident than when I booked my ticket at the start of the year.
Anyone else from OER going?
Definitely :thumbsup. Footy the way it use to be with a curtainraiser so you can watch our cubs run around live before the seniors.
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i am scared we will get smashed. A win would just give us 30-40% more confidence. the belief will not be as low as it has been over the years.
Outs - Hyde, Jackson
Ins - Cotchin, Hughes
play Hughes @ FF. Jay @ CHB.
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from today's Herald-Sun
Gary Ablett is doubtful after scans showed a slight tear in his calf, while Tom Harley (buttock) looks certain to play.
The Cats have earmarked the weekend for the return of Brad Ottens from a torn plantar fascia tendon in his foot, and say he is likely to play seniors.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23681817-19742,00.html
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hughes has a hammy strain, and also out of form, 2 reasons why he wont play
btw who do we drop for hughes? exactly no one at this stage
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Thompson said Ottens won't play while Ablett is "a 50-50 chance, 60-40 to play."
Mathew Stokes will miss Saturday’s clash due to suspension.
Also it'll be 15 degrees, showers with possible local hail and storms on Saturday.
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Thompson said Ottens won't play while Ablett is "a 50-50 chance, 60-40 to play."
Mathew Stokes will miss Saturday’s clash due to suspension.
Also it'll be 15 degrees, showers with possible local hail and storms on Saturday.
dont pay attention to that crap weather report i just saw it as well and thought the same thing.
remember the hawks game, not that we needed it but all week the report was rain and hail and we got jack poo
hope ablett ends up playing because that way we can measure exactly where we are
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If Geelong has any weakness it is their ruck when Ottens is out. Blake gets a lot of hitouts but he isn't a big possession ruckman around the ground and he doesn't have the versatility of Otto who play as a forward. Of course last year we were so bad we made him a local Geelong with his first 2 goals ::). He's only kicked goals against crap sides like Essendon and Melbourne this year too.
I hope Ablett plays too. Good education for our cubs to go up against him.
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Lets see Scarlett match up on Richo on the wing.
Hawks playing much better footy this year than the Cats, so hopefully the week off hasnt broken our improvement.
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Also it'll be 15 degrees, showers with possible local hail and storms on Saturday.
Oh god, they're conditions that Jimmy Bartel was born to play in.
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Also it'll be 15 degrees, showers with possible local hail and storms on Saturday.
Oh god, they're conditions that Jimmy Bartel was born to play in.
They're also conditions we don't get in Queensland!! ;D ;D ;D
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Also it'll be 15 degrees, showers with possible local hail and storms on Saturday.
Oh god, they're conditions that Jimmy Bartel was born to play in.
They're also conditions we don't get in Queensland!! ;D ;D ;D
Are you suggesting the Gold Coast Tigers? :lol
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Also it'll be 15 degrees, showers with possible local hail and storms on Saturday.
Oh god, they're conditions that Jimmy Bartel was born to play in.
They're also conditions we don't get in Queensland!! ;D ;D ;D
We don't get them here any more either smokey. Don't know how they can put it in the weather report. How embarrassing for them. :-\
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Also it'll be 15 degrees, showers with possible local hail and storms on Saturday.
Oh god, they're conditions that Jimmy Bartel was born to play in.
They're also conditions we don't get in Queensland!! ;D ;D ;D
We don't get them here any more either smokey. Don't know how they can put it in the weather report. How embarrassing for them. :-\
The hail has moved to the morning now lol although the weather reports are still saying showers in the arvo.
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Wallace promises better showing
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen
10:59 AM Thu 15 May, 2008
IT'S NOT something Richmond supporters would be dwelling on, last year's result against Geelong in round six.
The Cats did as they wanted, racking up any number of records, including the ninth-highest all-time final score, resulting in a record losing margin for the yellow-and-blacks.
But Tigers coach Terry Wallace is promising a vastly better performance on Saturday afternoon at the MCG, as the Tigers take on the unbeaten Cats.
"It's a big challenge for us, but we've played against the better sides in the competition so far, and we think that we've handled ourselves pretty well," he said.
"We think that we've been competitive against the best sides in the competition. I mean, how much time you spend going back through history – I reckon we'll go better than this time last year, I don't think there'll be much doubt about that. I think it was 157 points or something.
"I reckon we'll vastly improve on that performance. We're in pretty good form, and in good nick as a side."
The Cats had half their team involved in the Hall of Fame Tribute Match last weekend, and the Tigers just two, something Wallace said was a complete unknown as to how it would affect this week.
"How they come off 11 blokes playing – that continuity of playing footy versus us not playing for an extra week – are you fresher, are they better off because they've had a hitout, all those sort of things come into play, and you never know where that sort of sits.
"We respect the opposition … We believe that we're getting better and that we're improving, and that we're more competitive against the good sides."
Wallace dismissed the idea that Geelong was due for a loss.
"Not really. No, no – we've been on the backend of some pretty big losses to Geelong, so for us to be sitting back and underestimating anything the reigning premiers are doing -- when they haven't lost a game -- I think we'd be kidding ourselves."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=59614
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Wallace promises better showing
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen
10:59 AM Thu 15 May, 2008
The Cats had half their team involved in the Hall of Fame Tribute Match last weekend, and the Tigers just two, something Wallace said was a complete unknown as to how it would affect this week.
"How they come off 11 blokes playing – that continuity of playing footy versus us not playing for an extra week – are you fresher, are they better off because they've had a hitout, all those sort of things come into play, and you never know where that sort of sits.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=59614
not being picky but didnt we have 3?
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Wallace promises better showing
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen
10:59 AM Thu 15 May, 2008
The Cats had half their team involved in the Hall of Fame Tribute Match last weekend, and the Tigers just two, something Wallace said was a complete unknown as to how it would affect this week.
"How they come off 11 blokes playing – that continuity of playing footy versus us not playing for an extra week – are you fresher, are they better off because they've had a hitout, all those sort of things come into play, and you never know where that sort of sits.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=59614
not being picky but didnt we have 3?
Some background on the author:
Mic used to be a Richmond supporter while he was a learning/budding journo finding his way around the media scene in WA. A few years ago he got a gig writing for the AFL in WA and to prevent any chance of a 'conflict of interest' he jumped ship and became a 'West Australian' supporter, rejecting and cutting all ties with Richmond. Even left all his Tiger gear (scarves, hats etc) in a box in the driveway of my mate's house! He has just returned to Melbourne to write for the AFL and it appears he's a bit rusty on his knowledge/research of what's actually happening in Vic.
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Maybe he meant to say...2 for the Big V and 1 for the DT
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TAB Sportsbet Odds
Head to Head
Richmond $5.00
Geelong $1.15
Line
Richmond +28.5 Pts $1.90
Geelong -28.5 Pts $1.90
Margin
Richmond Under 39.5 Pts $ 5.25
Richmond Over 39.5 Pts $18.00
Geelong Under 39.5 Pts $2.25
Geelong Over 39.5 Pts $2.30
Draw 51.00
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Gary Ablett strong, Steve Johnson struggling
Bruce Matthews | May 16, 2008 01:15pm
GEELONG'S injury concerns have shifted to forward Steve Johnson after he struggled to get through training this morning.
Star onballer Gary Ablett had been the focus of the Cats' medical staff this week after he missed the Hall of Fame match with a sore calf.
He appears certain to play against Richmond tomorrow after getting through the Cats' light training session today. The club said he trained strongly on Wednesday during a closed session.
Although Johnson didn't appear to injure himself during today's session, the All-Australian small forward cut his training short and received treatment from medical staff on his left leg.
The club says it expects Johnson to line-up against the Tigers tomorrow.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/nrl/story/0,27074,23708250-11088,00.html
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Tigers set to play hard ball against Cats
richmondfc.com.au
Mic Cullen
1:42 PM Fri 16 May, 2008
RICHMOND assistant coach Brian Royal says his team's hard-ball skills will help them on Saturday as they work to wash away the memories of the first time they met Geelong last year.
The Cats pounded the Tigers at Telstra Dome early last season, but Royal said Saturday at the MCG was a chance for his club to show how far it had come, despite the Cats having bigger, harder bodies to throw into a possibly wet fray.
"I guess you've just got to have a look at the statistics at the moment – we're the number one hard-ball team in the competition. I don't think it matters the body size, it's about how you go after it," he said after training on Friday morning.
"We're quite considerably number one in that area.
"I guess what we can measure is how much we've improved - no doubt that was a game we'd like to forget, but it keeps getting brought up, and we need to show our supporters we have improved."
Royal said the concept of the honourable loss was wearing thin at Punt Road.
"It is [important to win], and Geelong, over the last couple of times we've played them, have had a good record against us, so that gives them confidence, so it's a great opportunity for us to measure ourselves against the best in the competition."
Gary Ablett is coming off a calf injury that kept him out of last weekend's Hall of Fame Tribute match and there were reports that Steve Johnson was looking a little proppy at training on Friday morning, but Royal said it made no difference to the planning process, and suggested a couple of opponents for star Matthew Richardson.
"The work that we do on the opposition, we're always preparing for the best side to play, and Ablett and Johnson will be in all our work,” Royal said. “You always hope that they don't, but we'll be expecting them to play.
"I guess they've got a number of players who could play on him [Richardson] – probably [Darren] Milburn is one who could play on him, and they've been playing [Andrew] Mackie also out on the wing, so they're probably the size who could pick him up."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=59707
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A pic of Steve Johnson discussing his left leg with their physio ex-Tiger Duncan Kellaway
http://www.gspimages.com.au/images/thumbs/main/143567.jpg
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A pic of Steve Johnson discussing his left leg with their physio ex-Tiger Duncan Kellaway
http://www.gspimages.com.au/images/thumbs/main/143567.jpg
Hopefully Dunc is giving him some kicking tips which may start to rub off come gameday! :lol
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13 degrees and showers tomorrow according to the news tonight.
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Not sure if the wet conditions are a blessing even against the Cats. We're probably now at a stage where we'd prefer a dry day where we can exploit our speed and run. On the other hand we have been good at contested footy so hopefully we just use the KISS principle to cut down on our skill errors and get the ball forward quickly.
Hopefully Dunc is giving him some kicking tips which may start to rub off come gameday! :lol
;D
Shame Duncan's only the physio and not their skills coach lol.
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Tigers relish Cats rematch
Nick Sheridan | May 17, 2008 - 2:02AM
The Tigers will run out onto the MCG today with the intention of showing they have turned their fortunes around since their disastrous 157-point loss to Geelong in round six last year, Richmond's assistant coach Brian Royal said.
Much has changed since then. That win launched the then-maligned Cats on a 15-game winning streak that set them up for the 2007 premiership.
For the Tigers, that game meant more pain in the course of an incredibly tough year in which they lost their first nine games, and managed only three wins for the season.
Today, the Cats sit atop the ladder, undefeated, confirming the oft-repeated claim they are the "benchmark of the competition". For Richmond, too, the signs are good. With 21/2 wins from their first six games, and a couple of competitive losses, the Tigers are forcing many a pundit to rethink pre-season predictions they are bound for another wooden spoon.
Royal said yesterday that today's rematch with the team that, just last year, inflicted upon Richmond the greatest defeat in the club's history, is another step along the path to redemption.
"What we can measure is how much we've improved," Royal said. "No doubt that was a game that we'd like to forget . . . but we need to show our supporters that we have improved."
Another key difference between this match and last year's is the state of Richmond's playing list. After the first seven rounds last year, Richmond had the longest injury list in the competition, including big men Troy Simmonds and Trent Knobel, and forward dynamo Nathan Brown. Yesterday, Royal delighted in talking about the current depth in his side's playing list, with young players queueing up in the club's VFL affiliate, the Coburg Tigers, to get a run in the seniors.
That depth, Royal said, is illustrated by the absence of defender Joel Bowden, who returns to the side today after five weeks in the VFL.
Key-position player Graham Polak will also make his return after a run in the VFL, with Jay Schulz and Daniel Jackson making way.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/tigers-relish-cats-rematch/2008/05/17/1210765193497.html
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So I guess it's peeing down then. ;D
(http://mirror.bom.gov.au/radar/IDR022.gif)
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Very much so....been pouring all morning...for hours...
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Looking forward to a bit of, getting down and dirty football ..Play it tough and hard boys .
Shultz and JON lining up for Coburg right now but no Cotchin ..hmm :pray
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Looking forward to a bit of, getting down and dirty football ..Play it tough and hard boys .
Shultz and JON lining up for Coburg right now but no of Cotchin ..hmm :pray
Oh my, what a entrance that would be.
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the more it rains the better chance for us to win, mind you in these circumstances theres usually a small forward on the other side who usually pops up and wrecks us. Steve Johnson could be a problem today if he plays.
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So is Cotch debuting or not? :pray LOL
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Play underway for coburg but no mention of him in the lineup :thumbsup
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Play underway for coburg but no mention of him in the lineup :thumbsup
:thumbsup
And I raise you a :thumbsup :thumbsup
:rollin
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the commentators have called cotchin in 2 plays, so looks like a debut vs Essendon.
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Cotchin is playing...Hopeless commentators
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Yep all our emergencies are playing so no change. Kingy must be okay to play with his wrist.
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Reported on SEN that King may be a late withdrawl
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The rumour on BF is that it is Farrelly wearing Cotchin's number, and it will be King out and Cotchin in.
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Cotchin to debut for Richmond
By Pat Devery 12:47 PM Sat 17 May, 2008
RICHMOND coach Terry Wallace has confirmed that Trent Cotchin will make his AFL debut against Geelong at the MCG on Saturday afternoon.
http://afl.com.au/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsid=59750
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First game, First kick, first goal of the game. Maybe he should of been first pick. Great start to a afl career Troy.
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Cotchin was one of the bright spots today, looks like he will be a 10-15 year player.
Can't wait until we play the Bombers next week.
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Interesting stat?
Every RFC player had at least one tackle (even Bowden had 2)
:thumbsup
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I was absolutely rapt with our first half effort. Was particularly impressed with Mcguane trying to impose himself physically.
But the scoreboard rarely lies. Geelong showed why they're the best team in the comp in the 2nd half - we've got a bit of work ahead of us and I reckon we're making solid progress. No complaints here.
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McMahon had plenty of the ball but I was disappointed with his performance. I have defended him on this forum more than once in the past but felt he was soft today, was pushed off the ball too easily, didn't put his body on the line and turned the ball over under pressure.
I would prefer to bring in Raines (when fit) to fill his role becasue I know I would get a player who would be fearless. McMahon always seems polished when he is not under pressure and is given space but we need someone who will do the team things and not just be a reciever.
Cotch was impressive considering the conditions, quality of opponent and the amount of games he has played :). It was interesting to hear TW say why he included Cotch. I wonder with better conditions, where run and carry comes to the fore, whether he will included considering his fitness levels? I would like to see him playing.
Stripes
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McMahon had plenty of the ball but I was disappointed with his performance. I have defended him on this forum more than once in the past but felt he was soft today, was pushed off the ball too easily, didn't put his body on the line and turned the ball over under pressure.
I would prefer to bring in Raines (when fit) to fill his role becasue I know I would get a player who would be fearless. McMahon always seems polished when he is not under pressure and is given space but we need someone who will do the team things and not just be a reciever.
Cotch was impressive considering the conditions, quality of opponent and the amount of games he has played :). It was interesting to hear TW say why he included Cotch. I wonder with better conditions, where run and carry comes to the fore, whether he will included considering his fitness levels? I would like to see him playing.
Stripes
raines does have disposal accuracy issues but at least he is a tough nut, always hard at the footy.
seriously mcmahon looks like some of the girls i work with. he is so soft its not funny
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I have to say I to was happy with the first half. But then I thought our desision making got real bad. I thought some of the passes were hospital balls just to save their own necks. Passing was a lot to be desirered.
But we had some real bright points.
And I will say it again bring Newman in as the captain he's by far the best leader out there for us. This should not be waited on until next year do it now.
I don't like captain guttless.
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disagree with newman being our leader
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What do people think of Richie's game. I know he struggled to get into the game and find the ball, but for me he at least did some things that were really good. Got a good clearance in the 1st IIRC where he slipped out a slick handball. And laid a beaut run-down tackle on Joel Selwood.
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I cant believe Pattison was the man who made way yesterday.
We lost our one chance for an advantage, the Ruck, by having Simmo the lone hand with a part timer the rest of the time, Patto wouldve eaten Mumford up. ::) :banghead
Ridiculous.
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Also thought Whitey was superb in the 1st qtr and really set us up before he fell away
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What do people think of Richie's game. I know he struggled to get into the game and find the ball, but for me he at least did some things that were really good. Got a good clearance in the 1st IIRC where he slipped out a slick handball. And laid a beaut run-down tackle on Joel Selwood.
Is that it?
Unfortunately - yep.
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ritchie has been good all yr, his 1st bad game , but bloody hell, i dont think he has ever played in cold and wet conditions ever in his life
but he was better than white and king, so have a dig at them
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Anyone else nearly have a heart attack when they actually paid a free kick against Ablett?
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i did!