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Title: Not a wet weather side: Wallace
Post by: one-eyed on May 18, 2008, 03:46:34 AM
Wallace: Tigers flounder in the wet
17/05/2008 11:11:37 PM
Jonathan Healy at the MCG
Sportal

Richmond coach Terry Wallace believes his team is not suited to playing modern day football in wet conditions.

"We have done okay in wet conditions in a few games in the past but I think we have become a real strong run and carry side with genuine speed in our line-up," Wallace said.

"We only had eight running bounces for the game today. That ability to step out and run with the footy was a little bit lost."

Full article at:
http://sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/wallace-tigers-flounder-in-the-wet-48601
Title: Re: Not a wet weather side: Wallace
Post by: {X} on May 18, 2008, 08:33:05 AM
thats a cop out, we looked very comfortable in the first 40 minutes and last 20. was wet then just as it was in the middle of the game

we lost cos we had too many passengers in the 3rd q when things got tough
Title: Re: Not a wet weather side: Wallace
Post by: julzqld on May 18, 2008, 08:55:09 AM
Agree - a cop out.  Should be able to play even in a dust storm.
Title: Re: Not a wet weather side: Wallace
Post by: {X} on May 18, 2008, 08:58:51 AM
terry said he was pleased with the way we were going when we got to a 20pt lead, we did that in the wet. we won the last q in the wet

the rain was a cop out, our 3rd q killed us not the rain
Title: Re: Not a wet weather side: Wallace
Post by: TFL on May 18, 2008, 09:10:13 AM
Its just a cover up for McMahons poor performance  :wallywink
Title: Re: Not a wet weather side: Wallace
Post by: {X} on May 18, 2008, 09:33:48 AM
dhead
Title: Re: Not a wet weather side: Wallace
Post by: Tigermonk on May 18, 2008, 10:52:15 AM
stupid statement from the spin doctor
Title: Re: Not a wet weather side: Wallace
Post by: Francois Jackson on May 18, 2008, 01:00:43 PM
thats why i cant stand him as a coach when he comes out with pathetic comments like that.

picture this we make it to the grand final next year and we lose.

.................and wallace comes out with that. well it was a wet day it didn't really suit us bla bla bla.

mate if you want to win a flag
number 1.. you should be able to play anywhere and any type of football. dry, wet, hail shouldn't matter.

possibly the worst comment i have heard him make this year
Title: Re: Not a wet weather side: Wallace
Post by: {X} on May 18, 2008, 01:37:53 PM
wankers the lot of u pessimistic sissy boys

bloody hell we were last last yr and played the best team and lost by 5 goals

ffs what more do u want, we have showed def improvement and wallace is showing this yr he can coach and is doing well

bloody hell, we were never gonna win a flag after getting a spoon, wake up

we have improved heaps, and next yr will improve more, what more do u tools want

go back to sleep and wake up
Title: Re: Not a wet weather side: Wallace
Post by: blx on May 18, 2008, 01:40:53 PM
LOL, if he comes out and says the opposite "we're a great wet weather team" none of the posts on this thread would read any different  :lol

im with {X} on this.
Title: Re: Not a wet weather side: Wallace
Post by: jezza on May 18, 2008, 02:13:13 PM
Threads like this are pointless, Wallace will always say the wrong thing in the eyes of too many people here. Better to keep the discussion to how we played than what the coach said.
Title: Re: Not a wet weather side: Wallace
Post by: Con65 on May 18, 2008, 03:24:58 PM
Isnt Wallace just saying what we all know...the tiges are a run and carry side.

King is one of the leaders for running bounces...it was that style of game that got us the draw with Bulldogs and smashed Freo.

It was obvious with the rain and soft ground that we would be losing one of our weapons from this year.

For those of you who want to constantly bag Wallace for everything that comes out of his mouth...thats poor form...

I am with {X} on this issue...
Title: Re: Not a wet weather side: Wallace
Post by: mightytiges on May 18, 2008, 11:57:16 PM
I don't think even successful Richmond sides of the distant past have been that fond of the wet. The 71 PF and 82 GF were damp days when we were hoping for dry and sunny conditions instead and of course we lost both.
Title: Re: Not a wet weather side: Wallace
Post by: Smokey on May 19, 2008, 09:06:16 AM
I've got nothing against Wallace making the statement - but I think he is wrong.  Geelong aren't suited to wet weather football either but what they did was adapted better.  When our intensity at the ball dropped off they took control by getting the ball forward as quick as possible by any means possible.  It didn't have to be skilful or precise, just quick and territorial.  The ball coming into the faces of the defenders as quick as possible was pressure enough once we slackened.  Basic stuff really, it's just that AFL sides don't get nearly as much exposure to it nowadays and it was the smarter, more experienced side that knew what to do.  Another learning curve for our kids - and I would like to think the coaching department took something away from it as well.
Title: Re: Not a wet weather side: Wallace
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on May 19, 2008, 10:17:48 AM
Sometimes saying nothing is better !!. (probably applies to this post too)

Yes the wet didnt suit our run and carry but the way he said it comes out like a cop out.

Better off just saying we had improved alot against the benchmark of the competetion. We are not complaining about the loss or saying we didnt improve, this thread is tittled "Not a wet weather side: Wallace" and thats what is being comented on.

I think we have impoved alot but this is about what he said and I think he could of put it better.

Maybe jezza is right and we should not comment on what the coach says. They put it out there and when they do its up for comment.
Title: Re: Not a wet weather side: Wallace
Post by: the_boy_jake on May 19, 2008, 10:26:03 AM
Thats a soft statement.

Next time we play in the wet the boys will be expecting us to play badly.

Need to regain some intensity around stoppages.

Also highlighted that some of our 'go-to' players aren't as skilled as we think.
Title: Re: Not a wet weather side: Wallace
Post by: Ramps on May 19, 2008, 10:37:52 AM
How come at the end of 2004 when Richmond, Hawthorn and Footscray all got priority picks for finishing in the bottom 3 with crap seasons, how come, we are still at the bottom and Hawthorn and Footscray are at the top of the ladder?
Title: Re: Not a wet weather side: Wallace
Post by: {X} on May 19, 2008, 11:00:53 AM
How come at the end of 2004 when Richmond, Hawthorn and Footscray all got priority picks for finishing in the bottom 3 with crap seasons, how come, we are still at the bottom and Hawthorn and Footscray are at the top of the ladder?

dont be so down ramps, we are not far behind and will leap frog them next yr

remember where the dogs are, well they drew with us in a game that we should have won and is a team that started developing when wallace was there, we have caught up to them, wait tikl they play good teams and watch them lose, they were lucky to beat freo, we thumped them!

and the hawks, only beat ud by 2 goals, not that far away paesano
Title: Re: Not a wet weather side: Wallace
Post by: Tiger Tragic on May 19, 2008, 11:43:50 AM
How come at the end of 2004 when Richmond, Hawthorn and Footscray all got priority picks for finishing in the bottom 3 with crap seasons, how come, we are still at the bottom and Hawthorn and Footscray are at the top of the ladder?

Because both of those teams had players that had been in the system a few years to start with.  For the Hawks, the likes of Young,  Bateman, Osborne, Williams, McGlynn, Sewell, Mitchell, Campbell Brown, Robert Campbell etc.  The 2004 draftees have just added the polish to this core group.  Same with the doggies.  Richmond started with the 2004 draft.  Hawthorn have always been 2 or 3 years ahead of Richmond in terms of development.
Title: Re: Not a wet weather side: Wallace
Post by: Beren on May 19, 2008, 01:20:30 PM
Sometimes saying nothing is better !!. (probably applies to this post too)

Yes the wet didnt suit our run and carry but the way he said it comes out like a cop out.

Better off just saying we had improved alot against the benchmark of the competetion. We are not complaining about the loss or saying we didnt improve, this thread is tittled "Not a wet weather side: Wallace" and thats what is being comented on.

I think we have impoved alot but this is about what he said and I think he could of put it better.

Maybe jezza is right and we should not comment on what the coach says. They put it out there and when they do its up for comment.

Perhaps he was quoted selectively too. Perhaps he DID say we are not complaining or words to that effect.
Title: Re: Not a wet weather side: Wallace
Post by: richmondrules on May 19, 2008, 01:40:20 PM
Perhaps he was quoted selectively too. Perhaps he DID say we are not complaining or words to that effect.

Agree Beren. Take a microscope to a small part of the whole and you miss the bigger picture. Small facts and quotes in isolation do not improve understanding or knowledge.