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Richmond mentor well suited to Gold Coast
Dan Silkstone | July 13, 2008
AS THE AFL and its Gold Coast team lick their wounds today and wonder how their chosen leader, Michael Voss, got away, they could do a lot worse than cast an eye over one of the former Brisbane captain's less celebrated teammates.
Craig McRae looms as a candidate capable of fulfilling many of the requirements for the job of guiding a team of Gold Coast teenagers into the AFL.
McRae, a development coach at Richmond, was loathe to put up his hand for the job yesterday. The 195-game player said he had no plans to leave Punt Road.
But McRae is an ambitious man, well known in Queensland and with an impeccable record of developing junior talent. Anyone head-hunting for the vacant Gold Coast job would be derelict in their duty if they did not look closely at him.
"I'm not in a position to put my hand up or anything like that. Others will decide if I'm worthy or not. I'm quite happy at Richmond and concentrating on my role. It's up for others to judge," McRae said yesterday.
For the past two years McRae has been responsible for guiding players in their first four years at the club.
Before that he coached the Queensland under-18 side for two years, winning the division two national under-18 title and producing a string of AFL draftees, including Ricky Petterd, Jarrod Harbrow and Kurt Tippett. In 2006, under McRae, Queensland had a record 18 players drafted into the AFL.
With the Gold Coast job requiring the ability to bring a group of youngsters into the TAC Cup, develop and coalesce them in two years into a team capable of competing at the elite level, McRae's development pedigree marks him out. The three-time premiership player is also a qualified teacher, a background that he said was key to his coaching.
"I see myself as an educator, not really just as a coach. I go down the path of educating the players," he said.
He said he was proud of the work he has done at Richmond. In his time at the club, youngsters such as Brett Deledio and Trent Cotchin have caught the eye but they were high draft picks, expected to shine. There are others, though, where McRae feels he has made a real difference.
"You look last year at Jack Riewoldt, Shane Edwards … they are are all playing now this weekend over in Perth. You get great excitement seeing those players come on. Last year Jake King was a rookie player promoted and he made a great impact … there are little wins along the way that give you faith in what you are doing."
McRae said he did not see himself as a career development coach. He has his eye, eventually, on bigger prizes.
"I've got great aspirations," he said. "I aspire to be a coach. At what level depends on a lot of things but I aspire to be the best coach I can be."
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/richmond-mentor-well-suited-to-gold-coast/2008/07/12/1215658206406.html
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McRae among fancies for Gold Coast coach job
By Marco Monteverde | July 24, 2008 12:00am
BRISBANE Lions triple-premiership winner Craig McRae is eyeing a move back to Queensland as inaugural coach of the Gold Coast Football Club.
Now an assistant coach with Richmond, McRae yesterday would not confirm he had been approached by the AFL club in waiting.
But it is understood he is a leading contender for the job following preferred option Michael Voss's decision to join the West Coast Eagles coaching staff.
"I think it's up to others to decide if I'm worthy of the (Gold Coast) job," said McRae, whose Tigers deal expires at the end of the season.
"I'm committed to Richmond and at the moment that's all I'm concerned about."
The Tigers host the Brisbane Lions at Telstra Dome on Saturday night, and McRae says 10th-placed Richmond's slim finals hopes will hinge on the result.
"Our season's on the line," he said.
"If we can get the job done this weekend, we're still in the hunt.
"If we can't get over the line, then it's more than likely that we don't make it.
"It's a massive game for both clubs."
The sixth-placed Lions can pull 10 points clear of the Tigers with a win, but must overcame recent road woes highlighted by shock losses to Melbourne and Essendon.
"They'd be the first to admit that they're struggling interstate at the moment and I'm sure (coach) Leigh Matthews will have that as a major focus," McRae said.
"I think they'll come down for this game and do what they do well.
"They're a great tackling team and I'm sure they've been working on a lot of their skills under pressure."
McRae admits it's a "weird" feeling when he helps plot the potential downfall of his former club.
The Tigers have had the wood on Brisbane in recent years, with the Lions not having beaten them since 2004.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/sport/afl/story/0,27046,24066625-5016169,00.html
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Bugger. :-[
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Surely this wouldn't be a massive loss. There would be plenty of well qualified people out there that could replace him
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l heard a while back that if voss took the gold coast job, that mccrae would be his right hand man.
l dont want him to leave the tigers because l believe he will be our next coach .
if he goes theres another one we have missed out on .
hes a very smart operator we need someone like him as coach .
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Voss is going to West Coast.
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Voss is going to West Coast.
yeah l knew that,l should have worded my quote abit better.
l see even without voss going there they are still interested in mccrae .
l reckon send wallet up to the gold coast and we sign up mccrae.
at least wallet wouldnt need his solarium.
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Surely this wouldn't be a massive loss. There would be plenty of well qualified people out there that could replace him
I absolutely disagree. McCrae's coaching ability is held in very high regard and to lose him would definitely be a loss. Especially as our coaching group isn't that big.
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goodbye and shut the door on your way out.
no big loss at all
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goodbye and shut the door on your way out.
no big loss at all
And why do you say that?
As a coach and leader for our juniors he's been great and it's shown with the youngsters coming through and performing quicker than before he arrived. :clapping
Please explain your side of the tracks.
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goodbye and shut the door on your way out.
no big loss at all
You know you really offer nothing to this forum
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at least wallet wouldnt need his solarium.
You're not up here today are you. :(
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goodbye and shut the door on your way out.
no big loss at all
You know you really offer nothing to this forum
:sleep
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goodbye and shut the door on your way out.
no big loss at all
You know you really offer nothing to this forum
:sleep
In-for-me is correct, you are a waste of space.
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Moving right along and back to the topic ::).
Surely this wouldn't be a massive loss. There would be plenty of well qualified people out there that could replace him
I absolutely disagree. McCrae's coaching ability is held in very high regard and to lose him would definitely be a loss. Especially as our coaching group isn't that big.
I'm hoping he'll stick around for a few years to see the development of our current cubs through. He's talked about the satisfaction he's got from the likes of Foley and White who weren't top draft picks.
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goodbye and shut the door on your way out.
no big loss at all
You know you really offer nothing to this forum
:sleep
In-for-me is correct, you are a waste of space.
i love dealing with you spuds.
keep it coming boys
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goodbye and shut the door on your way out.
no big loss at all
You know you really offer nothing to this forum
:sleep
In-for-me is correct, you are a waste of space.
i love dealing with you spuds.
keep it coming boys
Is spud he best you can do? :lol
:cheers
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goodbye and shut the door on your way out.
no big loss at all
Seriously Daniel, I'd like to understand what you mean by that... what do you base that assessment on?
McCrae has done a great job in developing our young blokes. His role isn't just about how they play but also developing them in how to handle all the things needed to succeed in the AFL both on and off the field.
Speak to young kids around the club and they cannot speak highly enough of him...
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goodbye and shut the door on your way out.
no big loss at all
And why do you say that?
As a coach and leader for our juniors he's been great and it's shown with the youngsters coming through and performing quicker than before he arrived. :clapping
Please explain your side of the tracks.
How many games has he won ???
No loss and easy replaced, If he is as good as Jade Rawlings, just show him the door if he doesnt want to stay..
Assistant coaches are overated and at $100,000 a year, I honestly query there worth to a club.
Now lets just see, they move witches hats at training. they have very little impact in match committee and the senior coach says my way or highway, and they usually earn more bucks $$$$$ doing fill in gigs on 3AW or SEN and speak gabbage.
All they bascially do is state the obivous and give stats to players in there section of the ground, eg Defensive 6 etc go through stats at each break.
I am with Daniel161 on this, easily replaced,
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goodbye and shut the door on your way out.
no big loss at all
And why do you say that?
As a coach and leader for our juniors he's been great and it's shown with the youngsters coming through and performing quicker than before he arrived. :clapping
Please explain your side of the tracks.
How many games has he won ???
No loss and easy replaced, If he is as good as Jade Rawlings, just show him the door if he doesnt want to stay..
Assistant coaches are overated and at $100,000 a year, I honestly query there worth to a club.
Now lets just see, they move witches hats at training. they have very little impact in match committee and the senior coach says my way or highway, and they usually earn more bucks $$$$$ doing fill in gigs on 3AW or SEN and speak gabbage.
All they bascially do is state the obivous and give stats to players in there section of the ground, eg Defensive 6 etc go through stats at each break.
I am with Daniel161 on this, easily replaced,
The "Please explain..." question was directed at Daniel.
Interesting that you responded.
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goodbye and shut the door on your way out.
no big loss at all
And why do you say that?
As a coach and leader for our juniors he's been great and it's shown with the youngsters coming through and performing quicker than before he arrived. :clapping
Please explain your side of the tracks.
How many games has he won ???
No loss and easy replaced, If he is as good as Jade Rawlings, just show him the door if he doesnt want to stay..
Assistant coaches are overated and at $100,000 a year, I honestly query there worth to a club.
Now lets just see, they move witches hats at training. they have very little impact in match committee and the senior coach says my way or highway, and they usually earn more bucks $$$$$ doing fill in gigs on 3AW or SEN and speak gabbage.
All they bascially do is state the obivous and give stats to players in there section of the ground, eg Defensive 6 etc go through stats at each break.
I am with Daniel161 on this, easily replaced,
The "Please explain..." question was directed at Daniel.
Interesting that you responded.
Yep and why not ? its a forum isnt it ::)
And furthermore, the best assistant that has walked in and out of punt road recently was Mick McGaune. He cant and doesnt want to put up with the AFL crap. Great coach in his own right, coached flags at Tassie and in Gisborne. 5 in arow at Gisborne I believe.
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More deflection.
You are Daniel.
Admit it.
:thumbsup
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at least wallet wouldnt need his solarium.
You're not up here today are you. :(
Yeah I feel like I'm still in Melbourne - brrrrrr
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More deflection.
You are Daniel.
Admit it.
:thumbsup
Your on drugs, :lol :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :jump :jump :jump :outtahere
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More deflection.
You are Daniel.
Admit it.
:thumbsup
Your on drugs, :lol :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :jump :jump :jump :outtahere
That would be "You're on drugs"
How big was that company you ran?
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More deflection.
You are Daniel.
Admit it.
:thumbsup
Your on drugs, :lol :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :jump :jump :jump :outtahere
That would be "You're on drugs"
How big was that company you ran?
Ran several over the past 15 years.
:thumbsup Its no secret I might add
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More deflection.
You are Daniel.
Admit it.
:thumbsup
Your on drugs, :lol :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :jump :jump :jump :outtahere
That would be "You're on drugs"
How big was that company you ran?
Ran several over the past 15 years.
:thumbsup Its no secret I might add
The "several" intrigues me.
Why did you move on?
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goodbye and shut the door on your way out.
no big loss at all
Seriously Daniel, I'd like to understand what you mean by that... what do you base that assessment on?
McCrae has done a great job in developing our young blokes. His role isn't just about how they play but also developing them in how to handle all the things needed to succeed in the AFL both on and off the field.
Speak to young kids around the club and they cannot speak highly enough of him...
if he wants to leave then really whats the loss..
Whilst there has been definate improvements in the likes of Foley, White, Jack and edwards i see players like JON and Tambling actually going backwards. Whats happened to their development??
Im sure there are so many other capable candidates that could fill his position left if he goes..
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More deflection.
You are Daniel.
Admit it.
:thumbsup
Your on drugs, :lol :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :jump :jump :jump :outtahere
That would be "You're on drugs"
How big was that company you ran?
Ran several over the past 15 years.
:thumbsup Its no secret I might add
The "several" intrigues me.
Why did you move on?
Whats it to you?
Thats personal.
you must live a very sheltered life if you ask questions like that...
Either that or your batting for both teams...
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if he wants to leave then really whats the loss..
Whilst there has been definate improvements in the likes of Foley, White, Jack and edwards i see players like JON and Tambling actually going backwards. Whats happened to their development??
Im sure there are so many other capable candidates that could fill his position left if he goes..
I don't necessarily agree but thanks for the answer - good points argued :thumbsup
To everyone else - stick to the topic
Which is McCrae, not individuals personal employment history ::)
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Assistant coaches are overated and at $100,000 a year, I honestly query there worth to a club.
Try being a successful club in the modern era without them.
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And furthermore, the best assistant that has walked in and out of punt road recently was Mick McGaune. He cant and doesnt want to put up with the AFL crap. Great coach in his own right, coached flags at Tassie and in Gisborne. 5 in arow at Gisborne I believe.
Yep. Walked out of a part time job at Punt Rd to a full time job at St Kilda. Set the world on fire with his work there. Great country league coach - one of the boys, before the game and after the game (if you get my drift). Unfortunately no place in the professional sphere of AFL and maybe that's where Mick found his limit. One of Murphy's best known laws - "Every man rises to his own level of incompetence ..........................and remains there".
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And furthermore, the best assistant that has walked in and out of punt road recently was Mick McGaune. He cant and doesnt want to put up with the AFL crap. Great coach in his own right, coached flags at Tassie and in Gisborne. 5 in arow at Gisborne I believe.
Yep. Walked out of a part time job at Punt Rd to a full time job at St Kilda. Set the world on fire with his work there. Great country league coach - one of the boys, before the game and after the game (if you get my drift). Unfortunately no place in the professional sphere of AFL and maybe that's where Mick found his limit. One of Murphy's best known laws - "Every man rises to his own level of incompetence ..........................and remains there".
And that is why Greg Miller and Terry Wallace waited outside Sport 927 one friday morning in early Jan to offer him a job as an assistant coach at the RFC for 2008, FACT
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And furthermore, the best assistant that has walked in and out of punt road recently was Mick McGaune. He cant and doesnt want to put up with the AFL crap. Great coach in his own right, coached flags at Tassie and in Gisborne. 5 in arow at Gisborne I believe.
Yep. Walked out of a part time job at Punt Rd to a full time job at St Kilda. Set the world on fire with his work there. Great country league coach - one of the boys, before the game and after the game (if you get my drift). Unfortunately no place in the professional sphere of AFL and maybe that's where Mick found his limit. One of Murphy's best known laws - "Every man rises to his own level of incompetence ..........................and remains there".
And that is why Greg Miller and Terry Wallace waited outside Sport 927 one friday morning in early Jan to offer him a job as an assistant coach at the RFC for 2008, FACT
Exactly my point. Whatever the reason (and it really is irrelevant) he didn't get/take the job so he wasn't up to it or for it. Makes your point even more irrelevant.
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The Gold Coast are going to form a short list in the next week but Guy McKenna is now favourite according to Hutchy.
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And furthermore, the best assistant that has walked in and out of punt road recently was Mick McGaune. He cant and doesnt want to put up with the AFL crap. Great coach in his own right, coached flags at Tassie and in Gisborne. 5 in arow at Gisborne I believe.
Yep. Walked out of a part time job at Punt Rd to a full time job at St Kilda. Set the world on fire with his work there. Great country league coach - one of the boys, before the game and after the game (if you get my drift). Unfortunately no place in the professional sphere of AFL and maybe that's where Mick found his limit. One of Murphy's best known laws - "Every man rises to his own level of incompetence ..........................and remains there".
And that is why Greg Miller and Terry Wallace waited outside Sport 927 one friday morning in early Jan to offer him a job as an assistant coach at the RFC for 2008, FACT
Exactly my point. Whatever the reason (and it really is irrelevant) he didn't get/take the job so he wasn't up to it or for it. Makes your point even more irrelevant.
::) He knocked them back ::)
He was up to it, he wouldnt of been offered the job if he wasnt. He just didnt want to work for them and the crap that goes with the job.
He is a fantastic coach and his knowledge is second to none.
I might just add it wasnt his fault he got ''whacked"" from the saints, he was employed by Grant Thomas and the new coach Ross Lyon wanted his own team in, pretty simple.
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I think its safe to say that the only person who may know his future is Craig himself. Everything else is pure speculation.
Could the brawlers please take it out to the car park. The constant hijacking of threads recently by the usual suspects is really becoming tedious. :sleep :sleep
Maybe someone needs to start a thread and call it "The Car Park" where people can slug it out without destroying the decent threads we have here. Either that or take it to big fruity!!
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And furthermore, the best assistant that has walked in and out of punt road recently was Mick McGaune. He cant and doesnt want to put up with the AFL crap. Great coach in his own right, coached flags at Tassie and in Gisborne. 5 in arow at Gisborne I believe.
Yep. Walked out of a part time job at Punt Rd to a full time job at St Kilda. Set the world on fire with his work there. Great country league coach - one of the boys, before the game and after the game (if you get my drift). Unfortunately no place in the professional sphere of AFL and maybe that's where Mick found his limit. One of Murphy's best known laws - "Every man rises to his own level of incompetence ..........................and remains there".
And that is why Greg Miller and Terry Wallace waited outside Sport 927 one friday morning in early Jan to offer him a job as an assistant coach at the RFC for 2008, FACT
Exactly my point. Whatever the reason (and it really is irrelevant) he didn't get/take the job so he wasn't up to it or for it. Makes your point even more irrelevant.
::) He knocked them back ::)
He was up to it, he wouldnt of been offered the job if he wasnt. He just didnt want to work for them and the crap that goes with the job.
He is a fantastic coach and his knowledge is second to none.
I might just add it wasnt his fault he got ''whacked"" from the saints, he was employed by Grant Thomas and the new coach Ross Lyon wanted his own team in, pretty simple.
l dont know how you can say that mcguane is a great football brain,jack-daniels?
gisborne bought some good players ,there in a great financial position .
l dont think alot of people understand how much work mccrae does around the club.
for someone who thinks they know people inside the club you dont really know much at all.
and every time l come on here nearlly every thread has been hijacked by you or your twin daniel .
can you give it a break ,l come on here to talk about the tigers and have a healthy discussion .
if you are bored go and buy yourself a pet.
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The bid team received 12 applications, including two from former head coaches, and six or seven candidates will be granted an interview.
Denis Pagan
Gary Ayres (Port Melbourne)
Paul Hudson (Brisbane)
Chris Scott (Fremantle)
Craig McRae (Richmond)
Darren Bewick (the Kangaroos)
Guy McKenna (Collingwood)
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/sport/afl/story/0,27046,24071674-5016169,00.html
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Brad Scott, Craig McRae interviewed for Gold Coast job
Andrew Hamilton | July 31, 2008
GOLD Coast will attempt to mine modern football's most successful cultures by appointing a protege of supercoaches Michael Malthouse or Leigh Matthews as its first coach.
The Coast bid team finished the first round of interviews for the 17th AFL club's first coach with meetings yesterday with former Lions premiership teammates Brad Scott and Craig McRae.
It is understood Collingwood assistants Guy McKenna and Alan Richardson and Brisbane's Paul Hudson and Justin Leppitsch have also been interviewed.
The selection team will tomorrow draw up a shortlist of three for a secondary interview next week. The senior coach or football manager from the shortlisted applicants' clubs will be approached to provide a reference.
The interviews were conducted by former Lions chairman Graeme Downie, GC17 director Dr Alan MacKenzie, AFL coaches' association CEO Neale Daniher and senior AFL official David Mathews.
Downie, the selection committee chairman, praised the quality of the candidates and said there appeared to be no need to look beyond the applicants for other coaches.
"The quality was excellent, we were very pleased with it and the presentations were exceptionally professional," he said. "The difficult task is coming back to a shortlist.
"For the position we are offering, I don't believe there is anyone else we need to approach to improve our selection. We feel anyone from the six we saw would be quite capable of coaching an AFL team."
Who do you think should coach the Gold Coast team? Have your say
The selection committee received about 15 written applications and there were inquiries from at least five other interested parties.
Downie said there had been multiple expressions of interest from applicants with previous senior coaching experience but only one had made the interview stage. It appears he was referring to either Leppitsch or McKenna – the former guided the Lions in the NAB Cup this season while the latter was head coach at WAFL club Claremont.
He also said the selection team had been stunned by the level of expertise the candidates possessed.
"The amount of knowledge these guys have is very impressive," he said.
"Coaching is clearly not a simple process any more, now the equipment they use, the statistical information, psychological testing, GPS tracking data, it really opens your eyes up. It is a credit to the older senior coaches that they can keep up with the times."
Downie said the committee would not seek the opinions of current players when researching the applicants' credentials, but may be tempted to talk to former greats who had played under them.
"We might go to retired players with the standing of (Michael) Voss, (James) Hird or (Nathan) Buckley, but we are more likely to go the people who oversaw the candidates in their current jobs," he said. "The best reference you can get is from a senior coach or football manager. They are the ones that are directly responsible."
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/sport/afl/story/0,27046,24102575-5016169,00.html
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Actually there was an interview with McCrae by Alastair Lynch in the Sunday Mail (Brisbane's sunday tabloid) this weekend just gone.
He stated a clear desire to stay at Richmond long term and his huge respect for Terry Wallace and Terry's honesty (for those who harp on about his "spin"). He said he'd leave the GC 17 gig to others.
Mind you this was probably conducted before the whole Greg Miller/Tony Free thing of the weekend. I wouldn't blame him for wanting to jump ship now.
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Guy McKenna to coach first Gold Coast AFL team
August 13, 2008, 2.20pm
COLLINGWOOD assistant coach Guy McKenna has been appointed the inaugural coach of the Gold Coast's AFL franchise.
The franchise, GC17, today announced McKenna had signed a two-year deal to coach the side in the Victorian under-18 competition next year and then in the VFL in 2010.
Gold Coast will enter as the 17th team in the AFL in 2011 and McKenna was confident he could earn another contract after his first two seasons in charge.
McKenna, 39, beat a field of six candidates, and is expected to see out his contract at the Magpies - who are vying for a place in the finals - before starting on the Gold Coast.
McKenna played 267 games for West Coast from 1988-2000 and served as an assistant coach at the Eagles before he coached Claremont in the WAFL for a season in the WAFL.
He joined Collingwood in 2004.
AAP
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24174489-5012432,00.html
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A bit of an out of left field choice given McKenna wouldn't have a high profile in Queensland. The good news for us is McRae will be staying at Punt Rd :thumbsup.
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someone across the tracks has been sniffing around. :lol