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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Francois Jackson on July 26, 2008, 03:40:16 PM
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Yep just heard it from a mate in Sydney...
he has just resigned...
was just on the news over in NSW
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most like sydney news have just made a mistake, seriously, why and how would a sydney news program know this before anyone in melbourne
if it is true, i will be happy as i do not feel miller is any good, but looking at it realistically, we have won 4 out of our last 5, are on the verge of something and the timing sucks.
and again, as if a sydney journo would know this b4 melb!
think about it
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Here comes Sheeds.
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most like sydney news have just made a mistake, seriously, why and how would a sydney news program know this before anyone in melbourne
if it is true, i will be happy as i do not feel miller is any good, but looking at it realistically, we have won 4 out of our last 5, are on the verge of something and the timing sucks.
and again, as if a sydney journo would know this b4 melb!
think about it
I hear ya re: sydney media
but my friend used to work for North as a physio at Manuka and he called me straight up to tell me.
He said Miller walked out and no one can contact him.
Dont shoot the messenger im only relaying what he told me.
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well dan, i think u may be correct, channel 10 news have said the tigers and miller have parted company
now i was all 4 this but not now, at years end, the timing sux big time
as soon as we are in the season and in arms reach of finals :banghead
if we lose tonight we will know why
this kinda pooh has to happen earlier in the season or at seasons end, not after 4 wins in 5 games and just b4 playing the most important game of the season thus far
sheedy as a director of footy would be gr8, maybe the rumors that terry will quit due to health issues at seasons end are true also
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He is gone alright.
:clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday :birthday :clapping :clapping
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How come you weren't on here bragging you knew about this,Jack.
Did this one slip your spies :rollin
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Will happen on Monday. March has weilded the axe.!
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i am happy, but it should not have happened b4 this game, at worst after the game and after a win
timing is not good, but for our future i am glad miller is out
my gut feeling is terry will walk and use hs illness as as excuse. i wonder if his 5 yr contract had a performance based clause in it after year4 . who knows!
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lets look fwwd, miller is out and lets not make the same mistake again.
maybe we will kill the lions 2nite as the coaches must be feeling alotta heat
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How come you weren't on here bragging you knew about this,Jack.
Did this one slip your spies :rollin
more to come Moi, :clapping
You didnt ask, make sure you watch the news tonight ;) I cant, I will be at the game, not like some. :lol
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lets look fwwd, miller is out and lets not make the same mistake again.
maybe we will kill the lions 2nite as the coaches must be feeling alotta heat
And maybe we won't win either
This kind of thing in the middle of a season is very unprofessional.
Could affect the playing group.
Let's hope not :banghead
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How come you weren't on here bragging you knew about this,Jack.
Did this one slip your spies :rollin
more to come Moi, :clapping
You didnt ask, make sure you watch the news tonight ;) I cant, I will be at the game, not like some. :lol
So the President's men get their wish and Sheeds comes back.
If he gets us a premiership I'll be partying.
If he doesn't, I'll be asking questions
I can't lose, Jack, unlike you ;D
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David Kings contract wont be renewed either in 6 weeks :clapping
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How come you weren't on here bragging you knew about this,Jack.
Did this one slip your spies :rollin
more to come Moi, :clapping
You didnt ask, make sure you watch the news tonight ;) I cant, I will be at the game, not like some. :lol
So the President's men get their wish and Sheeds comes back.
If he gets us a premiership I'll be partying.
If he doesn't, I'll be asking questions
I can't lose, Jack, unlike you ;D
You dont want to question Wallace and co but you want to question sheeds ?? Your funny
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Why should i question Wallace you moron.
He did everything I asked him to do.
If Wallace goes, whoever takes over will be in a very good position.
And if they're successful it'll be the cheapest win in history.
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David Kings contract wont be renewed either in 6 weeks :clapping
the news just keeps on getting better
bombers are beating the pies and should win
miller gone
king is next
lets win tonight and make it a perfect day
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Wow. Good move. Terrible timing.
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Why should i question Wallace you moron.
He did everything I asked him to do.
If Wallace goes, whoever takes over will be in a very good position.
And if they're successful it'll be the cheapest win in history.
Your kidding. He cant coach and the mail I have he will walk at years end , so there!
Your a moron!
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fair dinkum jack, David King gone too.
well my day just gets better and better.
Not that im complaining because i am very happy with this decision, but its no wonder we are the laughing stock of the AFL at times, when this kind of carry on happens on the eve of our most important game of the season.
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fair dinkum jack, David King gone too.
well my day just gets better and better.
Not that im complaining because i am very happy with this decision, but its no wonder we are the laughing stock of the AFL at times, when this kind of carry on happens on the eve of our most important game of the season.
Kings contract will not be renewed :clapping
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lets hope the replacements are good. Neil Balme would be a very good start in taking over Millers job.
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Why should i question Wallace you moron.
He did everything I asked him to do.
If Wallace goes, whoever takes over will be in a very good position.
And if they're successful it'll be the cheapest win in history.
Your kidding. He cant coach and the mail I have he will walk at years end , so there!
Your a moron!
thats my mail too jack,
"health issues" will be the excuse
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Why should i question Wallace you moron.
He did everything I asked him to do.
If Wallace goes, whoever takes over will be in a very good position.
And if they're successful it'll be the cheapest win in history.
Your kidding. He cant coach and the mail I have he will walk at years end , so there!
Your a moron!
thats my mail too jack,
"health issues" will be the excuse
you havent been ""tapping"" my phone have you ??
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Is this all part of an elaborate conspiracy to get Jack back at Punt Road?
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yes it is, its a part of our grand plan for the wogs to run richmond ;D
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yes it is, its a part of our grand plan for the wogs to run richmond ;D
Merenda will be taking over Miller's position...
the wogs are back..
yeah baby
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Why should i question Wallace you moron.
He did everything I asked him to do.
If Wallace goes, whoever takes over will be in a very good position.
And if they're successful it'll be the cheapest win in history.
Your kidding. He cant coach and the mail I have he will walk at years end , so there!
Your a moron!
thats my mail too jack,
"health issues" will be the excuse
you havent been ""tapping"" my phone have you ??
no but i left u a voice message ;D
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seems someone is doing the job that was asked of them.
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newspaper sales will be up tomorrow :D
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Miller was always gone at season's end.
Thats why his role changed earlier in the year, and that's why he was asked to resign from the board a couple of months back.
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Good riddance to the ferret. Has done nothing in 6 years but scratch his aggots.
All companies have internal reviews why should footy clubs be any different. He obviously has been working if you can call that work with too much complacency. Why have a bloke who has shares in another club? Why have a bloke who 4 years ago was not prepared to work with a new board if Casey was to lose elections? Miller is a piece of dead wood and this review or move by the powers that be at the club is fantastic. Hopefully they get a Richmond person to replace the Marauding Idiotic Lazy Lying Egostical Ratbag. :clapping :cheers :bow
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Good riddance to the ferret. Has done nothing in 6 years but scratch his aggots.
All companies have internal reviews why should footy clubs be any different. He obviously has been working if you can call that work with too much complacency. Why have a bloke who has shares in another club? Why have a bloke who 4 years ago was not prepared to work with a new board if Casey was to lose elections? Miller is a piece of dead wood and this review or move by the powers that be at the club is fantastic. Hopefully they get a Richmond person to replace the Marauding Idiotic Lazy Lying Egostical Ratbag. :clapping :cheers :bow
it was like a second birthday present today.
miller goes and the tigers win a thriller..
goodbye miller. he was fake human being who was not in it for the rfc.
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Miller going, going … almost gone
Nick Sheridan | July 27, 2008
RICHMOND is ready to sack its director of football, Greg Miller, as early as tomorrow.
While club president Gary March moved yesterday to play down speculation about Miller's future, sources within the club said the president was simply waiting for a chance to speak with Miller in person to formally end his tenure at the club.
According to the club insider, March told Miller by phone on Friday that he wanted the two to meet next week to discuss his future at the club. The source said that Miller, seeing the writing on the wall, decided to leave town for the weekend in an effort to take the heat off the club as it prepared for last night's game against the Brisbane Lions.
However, the situation intensified yesterday after radio reports suggesting that an internal review of the club was likely to lead to the sacking of Miller and possibly one or more of the team's assistant coaches at the end of the season.
Miller's absence now seems to have prolonged the inevitable, with March wanting to meet with him personally before publicly announcing his sacking.
Speaking at the president's dinner before the game last night, March did not deny that Miller would be sacked, but sought to downplay the significance of the club's internal review.
"That review process started when I first became president, it's been an ongoing review process … what came out (yesterday), at the moment, is pure speculation. We'll be talking about it over the next couple of weeks as we go through that process, but that's all I'm going to say on the matter at the moment, we'll be dealing with it over the next couple of weeks," March said.
There is also mounting speculation that assistant coach Jade Rawlings will face the sack as a result of the review, as it emerged that Richmond has spoken with past champions Wayne Campbell, Stephen Silvagni and Craig Lambert, and had canvassed the prospect of recruiting Collingwood legend Nathan Buckley to an assistant's position next year.
Miller's sacking is set to come just over a month after he stood down from the Richmond board. Miller, who was chief executive of North Melbourne before he joined Richmond at the end of 2002, has steadily lost his influence at Punt Road over the course of the past year. At the end of 2007, Miller was also relieved of his responsibility as the Tigers' head of recruiting, and it has been reported that he has continually clashed with the Richmond board over his refusal to sell his shareholding in the North Melbourne Football Club.
The latest round of board manoeuvres could renew speculation about the future of Richmond's senior coach Terry Wallace, whose contract expires at the end of 2009. It was Miller who oversaw the appointment of Wallace at the end of the 2004 season after Danny Frawley was sacked after five seasons in the hot seat.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/miller-going-goingalmost-gone/2008/07/26/1216492813627.html
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Tiger puzzle: where's Miller?
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen
9:45 PM Sat 26 July, 2008
IT WAS the straightest of straight bats from Richmond coach Terry Wallace when he was asked in his post match media conference about the apparent departure of director of football Greg Miller.
Wallace said he'd had an early-morning phone call from Miller, but denied any knowledge of what was happening.
"Can you tell me what's unfolded? As far as I'm concerned at the moment, nothing's unfolded," he said. "We'll find out in the next 24-48 hours where it sits.
"The only thing I know is that I got a message from Greg this morning – Greg rang me and said that he wouldn't becoming to the game today for personal reasons; that he was stepping away.
"I asked him was he all right, were things okay, and he said he'd fill me in more in the next 24 hours.
"That's all that I've had any contact with … look, we were in the middle of preparation of the game, I didn't speak to the playing group about anything whatsoever, we were right in preparation mode, and we just couldn't allow anything to get in the way."
http://afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=64222
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Good riddance to the ferret. Has done nothing in 6 years but scratch his aggots.
All companies have internal reviews why should footy clubs be any different. He obviously has been working if you can call that work with too much complacency. Why have a bloke who has shares in another club? Why have a bloke who 4 years ago was not prepared to work with a new board if Casey was to lose elections? Miller is a piece of dead wood and this review or move by the powers that be at the club is fantastic. Hopefully they get a Richmond person to replace the Marauding Idiotic Lazy Lying Egostical Ratbag. :clapping :cheers :bow
That's a terrible thing to say. The guy has had a heart attack from carrying the off field side of the club due to lack of funds. Cherry pick his faults all you like, the fact is the guy busted his ass for us and used the resources he had to make the best decisions he could. He has put in place a team to take over specialist roles that he couldn't do by himself but did anyway. A little respect please.
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Good riddance to the ferret. Has done nothing in 6 years but scratch his aggots.
All companies have internal reviews why should footy clubs be any different. He obviously has been working if you can call that work with too much complacency. Why have a bloke who has shares in another club? Why have a bloke who 4 years ago was not prepared to work with a new board if Casey was to lose elections? Miller is a piece of dead wood and this review or move by the powers that be at the club is fantastic. Hopefully they get a Richmond person to replace the Marauding Idiotic Lazy Lying Egostical Ratbag. :clapping :cheers :bow
That's a terrible thing to say. The guy has had a heart attack from carrying the off field side of the club due to lack of funds. Cherry pick his faults all you like, the fact is the guy busted his ass for us and used the resources he had to make the best decisions he could. He has put in place a team to take over specialist roles that he couldn't do by himself but did anyway. A little respect please.
You must be kidding, he copped his right wack.
Greg Miller was for Greg Miller. Talk to people at kangas and you would understand.
He has gone to his holiday house at Wongthaggi, stay there Greg :thumbsup
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thats my mail too jack,
"health issues" will be the excuse
Yes but your mail also said Deledio wouldn't play last week.
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Terry looked brimming with health last night :thumbsup :rollin
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Good riddance to the ferret. Has done nothing in 6 years but scratch his aggots.
All companies have internal reviews why should footy clubs be any different. He obviously has been working if you can call that work with too much complacency. Why have a bloke who has shares in another club? Why have a bloke who 4 years ago was not prepared to work with a new board if Casey was to lose elections? Miller is a piece of dead wood and this review or move by the powers that be at the club is fantastic. Hopefully they get a Richmond person to replace the Marauding Idiotic Lazy Lying Egostical Ratbag. :clapping :cheers :bow
That's a terrible thing to say. The guy has had a heart attack from carrying the off field side of the club due to lack of funds. Cherry pick his faults all you like, the fact is the guy busted his ass for us and used the resources he had to make the best decisions he could. He has put in place a team to take over specialist roles that he couldn't do by himself but did anyway. A little respect please.
You must be kidding, he copped his right wack.
Greg Miller was for Greg Miller. Talk to people at kangas and you would understand.
He has gone to his holiday house at Wongthaggi, stay there Greg :thumbsup
I couldn't give a stuff about North Melbourne, the FACT is, for all his faults, he did a lot of good for this club and he busted his ass for us in difficult circumstances.
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Good riddance to the ferret. Has done nothing in 6 years but scratch his aggots.
All companies have internal reviews why should footy clubs be any different. He obviously has been working if you can call that work with too much complacency. Why have a bloke who has shares in another club? Why have a bloke who 4 years ago was not prepared to work with a new board if Casey was to lose elections? Miller is a piece of dead wood and this review or move by the powers that be at the club is fantastic. Hopefully they get a Richmond person to replace the Marauding Idiotic Lazy Lying Egostical Ratbag. :clapping :cheers :bow
That's a terrible thing to say. The guy has had a heart attack from carrying the off field side of the club due to lack of funds. Cherry pick his faults all you like, the fact is the guy busted his ass for us and used the resources he had to make the best decisions he could. He has put in place a team to take over specialist roles that he couldn't do by himself but did anyway. A little respect please.
You must be kidding, he copped his right wack.
Greg Miller was for Greg Miller. Talk to people at kangas and you would understand.
He has gone to his holiday house at Wongthaggi, stay there Greg :thumbsup
I couldn't give a stuff about North Melbourne, the FACT is, for all his faults, he did a lot of good for this club and he busted his ass for us in difficult circumstances.
Obviously you havent had dealings with the bloke.He is no good! Back to the ""hammerheads "" for Greg.
With Miller gone, alot of people will now ""return"" to the club ;)
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Glad to see the back of this f**kin worm.
Have never understood how Richmond people have blindly supported this bloke when its very obvious he looks out for his own interest first.
On a side note, people should take it easy on Lambert - we tried dishing him off to Fitzroy as part of that deal with Hogg and he cracked it and left. Don't blame him after we built up a core young midfield with Free, Campo, Knighter and Lambo, and then try to show him the door.
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Obviously you havent had dealings with the bloke.He is no good! Back to the ""hammerheads "" for Greg.
With Miller gone, alot of people will now ""return"" to the club ;)
Every time I've spoken to him he's seemed nothing but genuine.
Depends on who will now "return". People get their knickers in a twist about getting ex-players back, yet some of them have the only credential of being an ex-player from a period when we were crap. I hardly consider getting someone like Wayne Campbell back to the club a big deal.
Too much romanticism about getting ex-players back to the club, especially when they were crap
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Miller AWOL as Tigers sharpen axe
By Jon Pierik | July 27, 2008
RICHMOND are in turmoil after football operations chief Greg Miller went missing amid strong suggestions he was about to be sacked by club president Gary March.
It is understood an emotional March had intended to meet Miller on Saturday to tell the veteran his seven-year stint at Punt Rd was up.
But in a bold move that could split the club, March had yet to even tell coach Terry Wallace of his plan. March and directors Peggy Haines and Michael O'Shannassy have almost completed a wide-ranging review of the football department, and Miller was to be a high-profile casualty as the club desperately fights to again become a league heavyweight.
But in farcical circumstances, March was unable to get hold of Miller, who got wind of March's plan and failed to return his calls.
Miller, though, contacted Wallace to tell him he would not be able to attend the clash against Brisbane Lions at Telstra Dome where he was to work on the interchange bench.
The decision to sack Miller also comes as former captain Tony Free, who replaced Miller on the Tigers board in mid-June, conducts his review of the club's football operations. Free was in the coaches' box during Saturday night's match.
Tiger officials last night said they believed Miller, 55, had fled to his coastal holiday home, and were not expecting him back until Monday.
The day of drama clearly took its toll on March, who needed reassurance from Richmond chief executive Steven Wright before giving his president's address to the Tigers faithful.
March refused to mention Miller by name or confirm he intended to sack the man who joined Richmond in 2002 when Danny Frawley was coach and played a key role in recruiting Wallace on a five-year deal.
"What I did say and what the club said last year was that (review) process would be ongoing this year," March said.
"It's been well documented that our resources weren't fantastic over a number of years and that we needed to continue to grow our organisation, and we would do that when it was prudent.
"That review process has been ongoing. It is still ongoing and we will be looking to further enhance our football department.
"It's something that has been ongoing for sometime and it will continue until we get the Richmond Football Club up back where we want it to be, in the top four clubs in the competition."
Wallace maintained he had no knowledge of March's plans to sack his right-hand man.
"He (March) has been interstate for the past week," Wallace said on Triple M before last night's clash.
"I haven't had the opportunity to speak with him. Obviously, over the next 48 hours, we'll have that conversation.
"I have no real knowledge of what was going on at board management with Greg. I had a phone call from Greg this morning. He said he was unable to attend (the game).
"He said he was a bit upset and he wished the boys all the best. He said to concentrate on the game at hand."
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,24083218-23211,00.html
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Caro said on 3aw the leak came from people the club has spoken to as replacements. Greg got wind of it and then confronted the club.
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Glad to see the back of this f**kin worm.
Have never understood how Richmond people have blindly supported this bloke when its very obvious he looks out for his own interest first.
On a side note, people should take it easy on Lambert - we tried dishing him off to Fitzroy as part of that deal with Hogg and he cracked it and left. Don't blame him after we built up a core young midfield with Free, Campo, Knighter and Lambo, and then try to show him the door.
My memories was Lambert left because of money.
Also rumours he wouldn't want his kid playing for Richmond.
I'm starting to get a horrible feeling that we're going to be deluged with people of mediocrity - basically, we're not going after the best available, but people associated with a very unsuccessful era of the club. If they're mates of Free they'll be brought in.
Also people who left the club and some who wanted to in the case of Campbell at one stage.
Basically we're giving people who don't rally care about the club opportunities to enhance their careers. We shouldn't be a training ground for people who aspire to be coaches. We should be a club that doesn't settle for second best :banghead
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Glad to see the back of this f**kin worm.
Have never understood how Richmond people have blindly supported this bloke when its very obvious he looks out for his own interest first.
On a side note, people should take it easy on Lambert - we tried dishing him off to Fitzroy as part of that deal with Hogg and he cracked it and left. Don't blame him after we built up a core young midfield with Free, Campo, Knighter and Lambo, and then try to show him the door.
My memories was Lambert left because of money.
Also rumours he wouldn't want his kid playing for Richmond.
I'm starting to get a horrible feeling that we're going to be deluged with people of mediocrity - basically, we're not going after the best available, but people associated with a very unsuccessful era of the club. If they're mates of Free they'll be brought in.
Also people who left the club and some who wanted to in the case of Campbell at one stage.
Basically we're giving people who don't rally care about the club opportunities to enhance their careers. We shouldn't be a training ground for people who aspire to be coaches. We should be a club that doesn't settle for second best :banghead
What are you saying that Wayne Campbell never put the club first & didnot care for Richmond FC ??
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thats my mail too jack,
"health issues" will be the excuse
Yes but your mail also said Deledio wouldn't play last week.
different postman ;D
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;D :lol
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anyway if we keep winning i think terry is safe and may get a contract extension if we make finals next yr and get close this year
but on a side note
i am sick and tired of reading that the RFC is in TURMOIL!!
WTF are these journos on, because miller was not the RFC, he was just an employee of the club, so what he has been sacked and the club is going through a review, that does not mean we are in turmoil FFS :banghead :banghead :banghead
it just means we are moving forward and improving personel at the club
turmoil...... pigs bum ::)
by the way , another beef i have is this garbage how this is typical richmond. if it was typical richmond, he would have been sacked along with danny fawley 3 years before danny was axed. if it was tpical richmond, danny would never have seen out his 5 yrs, typical richmond would have sacked terry after we came last , last year.
talk about total exageration. and miller was around for what 6-7 years. long enough way too long
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Glad to see the back of this f**kin worm.
Have never understood how Richmond people have blindly supported this bloke when its very obvious he looks out for his own interest first.
On a side note, people should take it easy on Lambert - we tried dishing him off to Fitzroy as part of that deal with Hogg and he cracked it and left. Don't blame him after we built up a core young midfield with Free, Campo, Knighter and Lambo, and then try to show him the door.
My memories was Lambert left because of money.
Also rumours he wouldn't want his kid playing for Richmond.
I'm starting to get a horrible feeling that we're going to be deluged with people of mediocrity - basically, we're not going after the best available, but people associated with a very unsuccessful era of the club. If they're mates of Free they'll be brought in.
Also people who left the club and some who wanted to in the case of Campbell at one stage.
Basically we're giving people who don't rally care about the club opportunities to enhance their careers. We shouldn't be a training ground for people who aspire to be coaches. We should be a club that doesn't settle for second best :banghead
What are you saying that Wayne Campbell never put the club first & didnot care for Richmond FC ??
How can anyone answer that one. Even you wouldn't know that.
And I couldn't care less if he does or doesn't because I don't think much of him anyway.
But Jack talks about Wallace's mates and here's Free lining up his own.
We dont want his mates, we want the 'BEST' available.
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Glad to see the back of this f**kin worm.
Have never understood how Richmond people have blindly supported this bloke when its very obvious he looks out for his own interest first.
On a side note, people should take it easy on Lambert - we tried dishing him off to Fitzroy as part of that deal with Hogg and he cracked it and left. Don't blame him after we built up a core young midfield with Free, Campo, Knighter and Lambo, and then try to show him the door.
My memories was Lambert left because of money.
Also rumours he wouldn't want his kid playing for Richmond.
I'm starting to get a horrible feeling that we're going to be deluged with people of mediocrity - basically, we're not going after the best available, but people associated with a very unsuccessful era of the club. If they're mates of Free they'll be brought in.
Also people who left the club and some who wanted to in the case of Campbell at one stage.
Basically we're giving people who don't rally care about the club opportunities to enhance their careers. We shouldn't be a training ground for people who aspire to be coaches. We should be a club that doesn't settle for second best :banghead
What are you saying that Wayne Campbell never put the club first & didnot care for Richmond FC ??
How can anyone answer that one. Even you wouldn't know that.
And I couldn't care less if he does or doesn't because I don't think much of him anyway.
But Jack talks about Wallace's mates and here's Free lining up his own.
We dont want his mates, we want the 'BEST' available.
Why do you comment & slag people off when you dont know the facts,
l can tell you he always put the club first & still does
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Glad to see the back of this f**kin worm.
Have never understood how Richmond people have blindly supported this bloke when its very obvious he looks out for his own interest first.
On a side note, people should take it easy on Lambert - we tried dishing him off to Fitzroy as part of that deal with Hogg and he cracked it and left. Don't blame him after we built up a core young midfield with Free, Campo, Knighter and Lambo, and then try to show him the door.
My memories was Lambert left because of money.
Also rumours he wouldn't want his kid playing for Richmond.
I'm starting to get a horrible feeling that we're going to be deluged with people of mediocrity - basically, we're not going after the best available, but people associated with a very unsuccessful era of the club. If they're mates of Free they'll be brought in.
Also people who left the club and some who wanted to in the case of Campbell at one stage.
Basically we're giving people who don't rally care about the club opportunities to enhance their careers. We shouldn't be a training ground for people who aspire to be coaches. We should be a club that doesn't settle for second best :banghead
Your funny.
Why ?
Because at the moment we have MEDIOCRITY!
Yes, and we have at PRESENT given people who dont care about the club careers. thats been my beef for 2 YEARS :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Glad to see the back of this f**kin worm.
Have never understood how Richmond people have blindly supported this bloke when its very obvious he looks out for his own interest first.
On a side note, people should take it easy on Lambert - we tried dishing him off to Fitzroy as part of that deal with Hogg and he cracked it and left. Don't blame him after we built up a core young midfield with Free, Campo, Knighter and Lambo, and then try to show him the door.
My memories was Lambert left because of money.
Also rumours he wouldn't want his kid playing for Richmond.
I'm starting to get a horrible feeling that we're going to be deluged with people of mediocrity - basically, we're not going after the best available, but people associated with a very unsuccessful era of the club. If they're mates of Free they'll be brought in.
Also people who left the club and some who wanted to in the case of Campbell at one stage.
Basically we're giving people who don't rally care about the club opportunities to enhance their careers. We shouldn't be a training ground for people who aspire to be coaches. We should be a club that doesn't settle for second best :banghead
What are you saying that Wayne Campbell never put the club first & didnot care for Richmond FC ??
How can anyone answer that one. Even you wouldn't know that.
And I couldn't care less if he does or doesn't because I don't think much of him anyway.
But Jack talks about Wallace's mates and here's Free lining up his own.
We dont want his mates, we want the 'BEST' available.
Why do you comment & slag people off when you dont know the facts,
l can tell you he always put the club first & still does
Pot kettle black
You and your mates never stop slagging people
Hysterical comment :rollin
And where did I slag him?
Because he wanted to go to another club?
That's not slagging - it's FACT as Jack would say!
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Glad to see the back of this f**kin worm.
Have never understood how Richmond people have blindly supported this bloke when its very obvious he looks out for his own interest first.
On a side note, people should take it easy on Lambert - we tried dishing him off to Fitzroy as part of that deal with Hogg and he cracked it and left. Don't blame him after we built up a core young midfield with Free, Campo, Knighter and Lambo, and then try to show him the door.
My memories was Lambert left because of money.
Also rumours he wouldn't want his kid playing for Richmond.
I'm starting to get a horrible feeling that we're going to be deluged with people of mediocrity - basically, we're not going after the best available, but people associated with a very unsuccessful era of the club. If they're mates of Free they'll be brought in.
Also people who left the club and some who wanted to in the case of Campbell at one stage.
Basically we're giving people who don't rally care about the club opportunities to enhance their careers. We shouldn't be a training ground for people who aspire to be coaches. We should be a club that doesn't settle for second best :banghead
Your funny.
Why ?
Because at the moment we have MEDIOCRITY!
Yes, and we have at PRESENT given people who dont care about the club careers. thats been my beef for 2 YEARS :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
I luv the Tiges too.
Doesn't make me a good assistant coach :wallywink
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oh please
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Glad to see the back of this f**kin worm.
Have never understood how Richmond people have blindly supported this bloke when its very obvious he looks out for his own interest first.
On a side note, people should take it easy on Lambert - we tried dishing him off to Fitzroy as part of that deal with Hogg and he cracked it and left. Don't blame him after we built up a core young midfield with Free, Campo, Knighter and Lambo, and then try to show him the door.
My memories was Lambert left because of money.
Also rumours he wouldn't want his kid playing for Richmond.
I'm starting to get a horrible feeling that we're going to be deluged with people of mediocrity - basically, we're not going after the best available, but people associated with a very unsuccessful era of the club. If they're mates of Free they'll be brought in.
Also people who left the club and some who wanted to in the case of Campbell at one stage.
Basically we're giving people who don't rally care about the club opportunities to enhance their careers. We shouldn't be a training ground for people who aspire to be coaches. We should be a club that doesn't settle for second best :banghead
Your funny.
Why ?
Because at the moment we have MEDIOCRITY!
Yes, and we have at PRESENT given people who dont care about the club careers. thats been my beef for 2 YEARS :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
I luv the Tiges too.
Doesn't make me a good assistant coach :wallywink
You are a dill. move on
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You heard it first on OER, Greg Miller is meeting with Clinton Casey at his place this evening, ahh the plot thickens :shh ;)
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What are the facts , is Miller been axed or are we still speculating. If Richmond axe Miller this way then it will prove that we have gone no where. There are ways to do things and ways not to and "the not" to is to sack someone before the end of the season who has put his heart into the club.
PS: A bloke must have done something terribly evil to you to call him a worm
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I didnt call him a worm Camboon, I would call him worse actually
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You heard it first on OER, Greg Miller is meeting with Clinton Casey at his place this evening, ahh the plot thickens :shh ;)
Lol already looking for a new job...
As for getting rid of him disappointed at how it has been handled , happy he is gone...
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You heard it first on OER, Greg Miller is meeting with Clinton Casey at his place this evening, ahh the plot thickens :shh ;)
Lol already looking for a new job...
As for getting rid of him disappointed at how it has been handled , happy he is gone...
March is there as well. Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Well thats interesting...
Hopefully things can besorted quickly and we can move on..
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Well thats interesting...
Hopefully things can besorted quickly and we can move on..
Yep , Miller to stay right away from Punt Road, thats how you sort it out
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion as to the "decision" but they way it has been handled by the Club is absolutely appalling.
Someone was critical of the media because they said the Club is in turmoil.
I don't think we are in turmoil but we certainly look like a rabble the way we have handled this little gem....in a word PATHETIC...
I will repeat I am not talking about the actually decision, this club has made many over the years I've agreed with and equally as many I've thought were crap but how they've gone about this is nothing short of embarassing and as I said appalling
And here I was earlier in the week laughing at the way Melbourne handled the shafting of McNamee...geesh don't I feel like a twit now :-\
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion as to the "decision" but they way it has been handled by the Club is absolutely appalling.
Someone was critical of the media because they said the Club is in turmoil.
I don't think we are in turmoil but we certainly look like a rabble the way we have handled this little gem....in a word PATHETIC...
I will repeat I am not talking about the actually decision, this club has made many over the years I've agreed with and equally as many I've thought were crap but how they've gone about this is nothing short of embarassing and as I said appalling
And here I was earlier in the week laughing at the way Melbourne handled the shafting of McNamee...geesh don't I feel like a twit now :-\
Nah, we are in turmoil when your key personal dont front for work, and the place has more leaks than the titantic, thats turmoil.
If wasnt for Richo getting us over the line in a few games, coach would of been gone as well,
Then again, with more changes on the way, he mighten want to work in that enviroment, interesting isnt it. ;)
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SEN JUST CONFIRMED
MILLER IS GONE!
He met with Gary March tonight. Its over for Greg at Richmond officially.
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Nah, we are in turmoil when your key personal dont front for work, and the place has more leaks than the titantic,
That's the worst bit of all - the leaks....
And Caro reckons it happens at funerals and weddings .... please :banghead
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Just on SEN:
The RFC has announced Miller will step down effective immediately.
Edit: beat me to it Ramps.
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There will be others who exit as well ;)
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Just on SEN:
The RFC has announced Miller will step down effective immediately.
This whole thing is so pathetic.
Good luck, Greg :thumbsup
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WP - don't knock the weddings/funeral thing, just substitute the words social gatherings - particularly those that go for a long time, involve booze and involve unrelated parties (boyfriends, girlfriends, wives husbands etc) who gossip and perhaps even brag about their inside info.
For instance - if you were at a wake with Jackstar for three hours you'd know his life story after two.. :rollin
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Just on SEN:
The RFC has announced Miller will step down effective immediately.
Edit: beat me to it Ramps.
Told you they were meeting tonight at Clinton Casey place, anything else you want to know.
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For instance - if you were at a wake with Jackstar for three hours you'd know his life story after two.. :rollin
Assuming you were remotely interested :wallywink
Jack and his mates and their gossip and leaks are the club's worst enemy
We'll never get anywhere with people like that around the club.
FTO :banghead
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For instance - if you were at a wake with Jackstar for three hours you'd know his life story after two.. :rollin
Assuming you were remotely interested :wallywink
Jack and his mates and their gossip and leaks are the club's worst enemy
We'll never get anywhere with people like that around the club.
FTO :banghead
What do you want to know Moi, ?? :o :o :o :o
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WP - don't knock the weddings/funeral thing, just substitute the words social gatherings - particularly those that go for a long time, involve booze and involve unrelated parties (boyfriends, girlfriends, wives husbands etc) who gossip and perhaps even brag about their inside info.
For instance - if you were at a wake with Jackstar for three hours you'd know his life story after two.. :rollin
Not saying it doesn't happen it mjs but caro said today on 3AW that in her opinion that is how this was leaked, people talking at recent funerals or possible "candidates" talking to other people at these funerals .... I don't buy that at all .... what alot of crap
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I heard Eddy and Brereton discussing this on SEN and for the first time (yeah I'm slow) I detected an unpleasant side of Eddy, the Broady, nasty spiv side of him that I didn't like at all. He seemed to be enjoying it a little too much. He should be better than that.
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For instance - if you were at a wake with Jackstar for three hours you'd know his life story after two.. :rollin
Assuming you were remotely interested :wallywink
Jack and his mates and their gossip and leaks are the club's worst enemy
We'll never get anywhere with people like that around the club.
FTO :banghead
What do you want to know Moi, ?? :o :o :o :o
From you, Jack?
Absolutely nothing.
You're F-O-S
How many people have you called up this evening to tell them that the meeting was on tonight so you could big note yourself.
:rollin
Most immature person I've ever met in my life
Grow up, start supporting your club or FO!
I'd be happy to remain blissfully ignorant than to hear your garbage.
So to answer your question, absolutely nothing :wallywink
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Hey moi - don't hold back............
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For instance - if you were at a wake with Jackstar for three hours you'd know his life story after two.. :rollin
Assuming you were remotely interested :wallywink
Jack and his mates and their gossip and leaks are the club's worst enemy
We'll never get anywhere with people like that around the club.
FTO :banghead
What do you want to know Moi, ?? :o :o :o :o
From you, Jack?
Absolutely nothing.
You're F-O-S
How many people have you called up this evening to tell them that the meeting was on tonight so you could big note yourself.
:rollin
Most immature person I've ever met in my life
Grow up, start supporting your club or FO!
I'd be happy to remain blissfully ignorant than to hear your garbage.
So to answer your question, absolutely nothing :wallywink
Thats funny, I have rang nobody tonight, people have been ringing me , and no,,they werent relatives either.
Moi, you should grow up and face reality. Reality is that things have to change.
Congratulations to the RFC for making the right move over the weekend, Moi, if your peeed off now, you will be peeed right off at years end, lol
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Hey moi - don't hold back............
You know what he's like.
I could have gone on forever with what I think lol
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funny how Caro says such things :lol when shes the one pumping the guests :lol
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funny how Caro says such things :lol when shes the one pumping the guests :lol
Can tell you all that Caro knows everything :shh ;) :shh
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funny how Caro says such things :lol when shes the one pumping the guests :lol
Can tell you all that Caro knows everything :shh ;) :shh
I can just picture it Caro chatting across the casket
Class...absolute class :banghead
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Moi, if your peeed off now, you will be peeed right off at years end, lol
I think you'll pee off more people than me, Jack, if what's happening now stuffs up the club.
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funny how Caro says such things :lol when shes the one pumping the guests :lol
Can tell you all that Caro knows everything :shh ;) :shh
I can just picture it Caro chatting across the casket
Class...absolute class :banghead
Nah, people in ""higher Positions"" cant help themselves, they use the media and feed Caro accordingly ;)
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funny how Caro says such things :lol when shes the one pumping the guests :lol
Can tell you all that Caro knows everything :shh ;) :shh
I can just picture it Caro chatting across the casket
Class...absolute class :banghead
Nah, people in ""higher Positions"" cant help themselves, they use the media and feed Caro accordingly ;)
Well this is interesting... because Caro, who you've just said "knows everything" is absolutely adamant that Terry will see out his contract.
This means that either Caro is an out and out liar or Terry will see out his contract ;D
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funny how Caro says such things :lol when shes the one pumping the guests :lol
Can tell you all that Caro knows everything :shh ;) :shh
I can just picture it Caro chatting across the casket
Class...absolute class :banghead
Nah, people in ""higher Positions"" cant help themselves, they use the media and feed Caro accordingly ;)
Well this is interesting... because Caro, who you've just said "knows everything" is absolutely adamant that Terry will see out his contract.
This means that either Caro is an out and out liar or Terry will see out his contract ;D
How many woman tell the truth? ;) :D :D :D
Plot might go like this? RFC change staff in footy dept( current review) and Terry doesnt want to work with them, so walks , hows that sound ?
Interesting though, he was gone if the past month hadnt happened
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That is the likely scenario Jack, that they'll make it unworkable for Terry.
Congratulations :clapping
Certainly won't be based on his performance :banghead
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Plot might go like this? RFC change staff in footy dept( current review) and Terry doesnt want to work with them, so walks , hows that sound ?
Interesting though, he was gone if the past month hadnt happened
If that is plot (and what you are hoping for) then we as a club have learnt absolutely nothing in the last 100 years let alone the last 25
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That is the likely scenario Jack, that they'll make it unworkable for Terry.
Congratulations :clapping
Certainly won't be based on his performance :banghead
Havent made the finals this year yet, or am i missing something. ::)
This isnt about the Terry Wallet Football Club its about the RFC :banghead
Funny even Terry said today, there is always uncertainity at football clubs and if he cant change the win loss ratio, his job is under scrutiny and so it should be., Even he admits it
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That is the likely scenario Jack, that they'll make it unworkable for Terry.
Congratulations :clapping
Certainly won't be based on his performance :banghead
Havent made the finals this year yet, or am i missing something. ::)
This isnt about the Terry Wallet Football Club its about the RFC :banghead
Funny even Terry said today, there is always uncertainity at football clubs and if he cant change the win loss ratio, his job is under scrutiny and so it should be., Even he admits it
If we don't make the finals it wont be because of Terry
I know exactly where the blame will lie :banghead
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Just on SEN:
The RFC has announced Miller will step down effective immediately.
Edit: beat me to it Ramps.
Told you they were meeting tonight at Clinton Casey place, anything else you want to know.
What like Terry being sacked 15 months ago and about 6 times since then :whistle.
Miller was gone as soon as he stepped down off the board. It's hardly a surprise he's going :wallywink. The decision and notification should have occurred at the end of the season but no the RFC can't even dismiss an employee in an orderly and proper fashion. If this sacking via the media/outside sources happened at another club while they were actually winning games we'd be calling them a rabble.
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Richmond chief quits
July 27, 2008 - 9:14PM
Richmond's director of football Greg Miller has bowed to pressure and stood down from his post, ending a messy episode that has put a dampener on the club's charge to the AFL finals.
At a time when the Tigers should be celebrating Saturday night's thrilling win over Brisbane and focusing on earning their first finals berth in seven years, the club famed for eating its own was facing another high-profile sacking before Miller fell on his sword.
Miller is the first casualty of a review of the football department conducted by club president Gary March and two of his board members.
"It was agreed by both parties that Greg would step down immediately from his role as general manager of football operations," March said in a club statement after meeting with Miller.
"I would like to thank Greg Miller for his six years of tireless service to the Richmond Football Club.
"He has been integral in the rebuilding of our young list.
"Greg should be proud of his work with the Richmond Football Club and I would like to specifically acknowledge his dedication to our club coterie groups and supporters over the years."
Instead of attending Saturday night's game at Telstra Dome, Miller left Melbourne for the weekend.
Tigers coach Terry Wallace was left in the awkward position of having to field questions over Miller's future before the announcement.
After his side rallied to come from behind and beat the Lions by three points, which put the Tigers within reach of the eight, Wallace said he was unsure about Miller's position and needed to seek answers from the club's administration himself.
"Certainly it was a distraction for myself over a 24-hour period," Wallace told Fairfax Radio.
"My biggest concern was that number one, the playing group wasn't distracted last night and I didn't think that really occurred, so that was OK.
"The other scenario was I knew I was going to be facing the music (in media interviews) prior to the match with not a heck of a lot of knowledge where exactly things were sitting and what was going on.
"So I found that very, very awkward. I was almost the spokesperson for something that I didn't have knowledge on and that's difficult."
Miller contacted Wallace to tell him he would not attend the game.
Wallace said Miller had gone "up bush" and hoped to contact him.
Miller, a former chief executive at North Melbourne, has been an influential figure since joining Richmond in 2002.
He recruited most of the players on the club's list and Wallace after Danny Frawley was sacked, and until this year held a position on the board.
The review has also reportedly cast doubt over the future of Richmond assistant coach Jade Rawlings given the Tigers want to bolster their strength in that area.
But Wallace said he had been assured by March and new director Tony Free that Rawlings' position was safe.
Wallace was also confident his own position was safe and that he would coach into a fifth season, in 2009.
© 2008 AAP
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the club famed for eating its own was facing another high-profile sacking
The last one being.......?
Why do they write this cliche crap? :banghead
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the club famed for eating its own was facing another high-profile sacking
The last one being.......?
Why do they write this cliche crap? :banghead
We just keep on creating fodder for headlines like this, MJS
Let's hope they know what they're doing.
But boards can be toppled, we've seen that before
I hope they keep that in mind :)
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Who was our last high profile sacking? And don't say Spud.
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I think they're referring to our high turnover of coaches MJS
We've had a couple ;D
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We just keep on creating fodder for headlines like this, MJS
Let's hope they know what they're doing.
But boards can be toppled, we've seen that before
I hope they keep that in mind :)
Actually Moi, the irony is not lost on me that in part if it wasn't for one Greg Miller running on the Casey ticket what was it 4 or so years ago now that the majority of the current board (with the exception of Free & Haines) wouldn't be there today.... in the immortal words of one Jack that's a FACT
:whistle
Who was our last high profile sacking? And don't say Spud.
Footy wise or admin wise?
Admin wise it would be our last CEO before Steven Wright, the Nike bloke Ian Campbell
Footy wise... Gaspar ring a bell....oops shouldn't have said that it will fire Jack up again :help ;D
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Two in 9 years (about to be 2 in 10 years) and the last one didn't apply for his contract to be renewed - and he wasn't sacked.
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We just keep on creating fodder for headlines like this, MJS
Let's hope they know what they're doing.
But boards can be toppled, we've seen that before
I hope they keep that in mind :)
Actually Moi, the irony is not lost on me that in part if it wasn't for one Greg Miller running on the Casey ticket what was it 4 or so years ago now that the majority of the current board (with the exception of Free & Haines) wouldn't be there today.... in the immortal words of one Jack that's a FACT
:whistle
Who was our last high profile sacking? And don't say Spud.
Footy wise or admin wise?
Admin wise it would be our last CEO before Steven Wright, the Nike bloke Ian Campbell
Footy wise... Gaspar ring a bell....oops shouldn't have said that it will fire Jack up again :help ;D
None of them count ;D
As I mentioned to somebody ( :shh ) in a PM it's fitting that the meeting to discuss payout ;) was held at Casey's house because Miller saved Casey by running on his ticket and Miller got ahead of himself by running for the board so there's aq bit of karma here. Miller on the board didn't get my vote.
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I didnt call him a worm Camboon, I would call him worse actually
worm hahahahah..thats a compliment for Miller
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Two in 9 years (about to be 2 in 10 years) and the last one didn't apply for his contract to be renewed - and he wasn't sacked.
Like it or not, we're a laughing stock!
And after this, I agree with what they're saying
Not the sacking because his performance has been questionable, but the timing of it is the pits.
I hope it doesn't affect the playing group and we can work out the offield stuff at the END of the season.
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That is the likely scenario Jack, that they'll make it unworkable for Terry.
Congratulations :clapping
Certainly won't be based on his performance :banghead
Havent made the finals this year yet, or am i missing something. ::)
This isnt about the Terry Wallet Football Club its about the RFC :banghead
Funny even Terry said today, there is always uncertainity at football clubs and if he cant change the win loss ratio, his job is under scrutiny and so it should be., Even he admits it
If we don't make the finals it wont be because of Terry
I know exactly where the blame will lie :banghead
ooh let me guess MOI, its Spuds frawley's fault, yet again.
so if we dont play in a grand final by 2011, under Wallet's great vision then let me guess its all Spud's fault..
get over it
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Two in 9 years (about to be 2 in 10 years) and the last one didn't apply for his contract to be renewed - and he wasn't sacked.
Like it or not, we're a laughing stock!
And after this, I agree with what they're saying
Not the sacking because his performance has been questionable, but the timing of it is the pits.
I hope it doesn't affect the playing group and we can work out the offield stuff at the END of the season.
You cant control the timing. They were sounding out placements and one of them rang up their agent who rang Miller.
Thats what happens in footy.
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That is the likely scenario Jack, that they'll make it unworkable for Terry.
Congratulations :clapping
Certainly won't be based on his performance :banghead
Havent made the finals this year yet, or am i missing something. ::)
This isnt about the Terry Wallet Football Club its about the RFC :banghead
Funny even Terry said today, there is always uncertainity at football clubs and if he cant change the win loss ratio, his job is under scrutiny and so it should be., Even he admits it
If we don't make the finals it wont be because of Terry
I know exactly where the blame will lie :banghead
ooh let me guess MOI, its Spuds frawley's fault, yet again.
so if we dont play in a grand final by 2011, under Wallet's great vision then let me guess its all Spud's fault..
get over it
How did you come to that deduction, Einstein :wallywink
I was thinking more of the board and Tony Free for their tremendous timing.
And a few others ;) ;)
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The players need to be isolated from all this crapola! They're on a high and team morale is good. :thumbsup Lets hope the club can at least do that. :pray
Sometimes I feel that there should be a bigass brick wall between our administrators and the players with just a tiny little hole in it where they wait to receive their match payments.
The headlines should have only been about our gutsy win, instead it is overshadowed by this drama. If Miller actually thought about the club instead of himself, he should have turned up to the game and then let the cards fall where they may. Instead we hear about a Wounded Miller travelling down the Bass Hwy Braveheart style to his secret hideout to lick his wounds. "They may take my job, but they'll never take away MY PUBLICITY!!!" Good one Greg...Now P-off!!
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The players need to be isolated from all this crapola! They're on a high and team morale is good. :thumbsup Lets hope the club can at least do that. :pray
Sometimes I feel that there should be a bigass brick wall between our administrators and the players with just a tiny little hole in it where they wait to receive their match payments.
The headlines should have only been about our gutsy win, instead it is overshadowed by this drama. If Miller actually thought about the club instead of himself, he should have turned up to the game and then let the cards fall where they may. Instead we hear about a Wounded Miller travelling down the Bass Hwy Braveheart style to his secret hideout to lick his wounds. "They may take my job, but they'll never take away MY PUBLICITY!!!" Good one Greg...Now P-off!!
Spot on. It became a debacle because Miller made it one.
About time you put in a good post. :clapping
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That is the likely scenario Jack, that they'll make it unworkable for Terry.
Congratulations :clapping
Certainly won't be based on his performance :banghead
Havent made the finals this year yet, or am i missing something. ::)
This isnt about the Terry Wallet Football Club its about the RFC :banghead
Funny even Terry said today, there is always uncertainity at football clubs and if he cant change the win loss ratio, his job is under scrutiny and so it should be., Even he admits it
If we don't make the finals it wont be because of Terry
I know exactly where the blame will lie :banghead
ooh let me guess MOI, its Spuds frawley's fault, yet again.
so if we dont play in a grand final by 2011, under Wallet's great vision then let me guess its all Spud's fault..
get over it
How did you come to that deduction, Einstein :wallywink
I was thinking more of the board and Tony Free for their tremendous timing.
And a few others ;) ;)
i was stirring..
you need to chill out and stop being too serious
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i was stirring..
you need to chill out and stop being too serious
So this matter is all one big joke is it?
Gary March and his football review run by failed ex-players with ZERO off field credentials has in one foul swoop demolished all the stability at the club that had been built over the last 9 years.
They've also made this club the laughing stock of the AFL again with their complete incompetance in handling the matter.
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i was stirring..
you need to chill out and stop being too serious
So this matter is all one big joke is it?
Gary March and his football review run by failed ex-players with ZERO off field credentials has in one foul swoop demolished all the stability at the club that had been built over the last 9 years.
They've also made this club the laughing stock of the AFL again with their complete incompetance in handling the matter.
Its a board's job to review the operations, something that has rarely taken place in the history of the RFC.
Free has nothing to do with March's review. Cameron being hired and Jackson's role benig expanded were both a result of this review.
Reducing the club's dependence on one man (Miller) has been taking place for the past 12 months.
Miller could have been a professional and stayed mum until the end of the season but true to form, put himself above the club and created the headlines.
Settle down man.
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Free is handling the review of the football department, why else would he be sitting in the coaches box on gameday?
So of course he is part of March's review, it's all one big review by a couple of the board members, Free is part of that.
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Richmond confirms one of football's worst-kept secrets and sacks Miller
Michael Gleeson | July 28, 2008
AFTER a bizarre weekend of hide and seek, influential Richmond football director and former board member Greg Miller was last night officially sacked.
Miller, heralded as the man to deliver the Tigers success by former president Clinton Casey who entrusted him with carte blanch to rebuild the football department, leaves the club after six years at the helm.
Miller met with club president Gary March face to face last night and was told of the decision. The club had insisted on the personal meeting before officially confirming what was already widely known.
The decision that Miller should go was made at Tuesday night's board meeting where an extensive review of the club's football department by March and board members Michael O'Shannassy and Peggy Haines was tabled. The board approved the recommendation to sack Miller and while the timing of his departure was left open, it was expected to happen this week. As it turns it has happened this week, but not before a weekend of unconfirmed reports.
March and Miller spoke on Friday night after March returned from interstate and rang Miller after reports of his likely sacking.
It was agreed that given the rumours and stories in the media that the pair should meet to discuss the situation.
The former Kangaroos chief executive and shareholder fled Melbourne on Saturday believing he would be a distraction to the team on a match day.
He reportedly left for the holiday home of his wife's family on Raymond Island off of the east coast of Victoria, a place accessible only by ferry.
He sent a text message to coach Terry Wallace saying he would not be at the match that night.
While not returning calls from the media, Miller's absence in the context of rumours of his future was conspicuous.
March, determined to hold to his commitment to discuss the matter with Miller and to correct the lingering image of Richmond as ruthless and bloodthirsty, refused to confirm the story until he had spoken with Miller.
Wallace admitted on radio yesterday that he was uncomfortable about being left to publicly answer questions about Miller's whereabouts and impending sacking in his post-match press conference, despite having little knowledge of the situation. "I knew I was going to have to face the music prior to the match (on Saturday night) with not a heck of lot of knowledge on exactly where things were sitting and what was going on. I found that very, very awkward." he told 3AW. "I was almost a spokesperson for something that I didn't have knowledge on, and that is difficult".
He was concerned about how this might affect his players and assistant coaches.
"There has been a lot of speculation on our assistant coaches and I've virtually a guarantee from Gary and Tony Free that they are really pleased with the job that our assistant coaches are doing".
Former club captain Tony Free, who joined the board a month ago after Miller was persuaded to stand down, has been ensconced in a familiarisation of the football department. That process included him sitting in the coaches' box on Saturday night and attending various football meetings through the week.
He will make his own recommendations about the football department and its operations to the board at season's end from his conreview. That review did not form the basis of the decision to sack Miller.
The club has already indicated that it is more likely to favour adding two or three more coaches to the football department next year and it is understood there are no plans for any current assistant coaches to be sacked.
Wallace, with only next year to run on his contract, may feel renewed pressure on his position given the move on Miller and the on-going reviews of his department.
Winning on Saturday night and edging towards the eight obviously alleviates immediate concern and while there is no doubt that Wallace will remain at Punt Road next year. The issue of whether he is retained beyond next year is to be decided.
Several people including Nathan Buckley, former captain Wayne Campbell, who is an assistant coach at the Western Bulldogs and Craig Lambert have been canvassed about football issues and their interest in joining the coaching department.
Miller had been increasingly marginalised at the club over the past 12 to 18 months. The appointment of Craig Cameron as list and recruiting manager removed some of his duties, then earlier this year he was persuaded to quit the board he campaigned to join in the bitter re-election of Clinton Casey.
With LUCY BATTERSBY
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/richmond-sacks-miller/2008/07/27/1217097059803.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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Richmond supremo gives Miller message in person
Mike Sheahan | July 28, 2008
GREG Miller was informed of his sacking by Richmond president Gary March via telephone late Friday night and had his dismissal confirmed face to face last night.
His eventful six-year stay at Punt Rd ended at a meeting in Melbourne with March and club chief executive Steve Wright.
The architect of Richmond's on-field revival leaves on the weekend the Tigers won their fifth game in six rounds and emerged as a genuine final eight contender.
Miller, 55, said he had been told the club needed a more contemporary figure to oversee the football department.
Yet, he was remarkably philosophical about his removal. "I had a heart attack last year," he said. "I'm alive, I've got a wife (Danielle) who loves me - I think - and I've got great kids.
"I've had 38 years (as a player, recruiting manager and administrator); I'm lucky."
Miller said he was disappointed rather than angry.
"Gary apologised that it came out like it did (in Saturday's Herald Sun and Australian).
"We've spent six years trying to get some respect in the footy world and it can be undone by removing the very person who tried to fix that."
Miller's only hint of anger was towards those who suggested on radio yesterday he had gone to ground on Saturday to lick his wounds.
"I felt it was in the best interests of the playing group and the club for me not to be around on Saturday night. I was just doing what I thought was best for the players."
Miller watched Saturday night's thrilling win over the Brisbane Lions on TV in Traralgon at the home of close friend and former South Melbourne teammate Max Robertson.
"I watched the game last night as if I was there, yelling at the television, hoping they'd win. I got the texts as the siren went. From Terry (Wallace), "Choco" (assistant coach Brian Royal), Jade Rawlings and the others, about seven or eight of them.
"I'm a big believer in Terry Wallace and what he's doing, and Steven Wright, the two leaders of the club.
"Gary explained to me that the board felt they needed someone more contemporary and I can understand that. I have what some may say an older style of management.
"I still think in a footy club you need all sorts of different qualities of people. I think my qualities complement those of Steven Wright, and that we were winning the battle, winning the war.
"While I understand the board's thinking about a new style of football director - I've got no qualms with that - I just plead with them not to lose sight of the fact that it takes a variety of types to make sure you've got a culture within a footy club to win a premiership. Don't change that mix, whoever they appoint.
"Look, I've been lucky enough to be in footy 38 years (from 1971). I've had a lot more pats in the back than kicks in the arse.
" I'm disappointed I won't enjoy the fruits of my hard work, but I'm more disappointed for all the good people at the footy club.
" That this reaction of the Richmond FC is going to sour their thoughts about the club. I'm really proud of what I've done. I've never worked harder than what I have at Richmond. I tried to change how people were treated, the perception of the Richmond Football Club.
"It's ironic that the same group of directors I helped get into power are the ones that have decided I shouldn't be with them any longer.
" I still think the club's come a hell of a long way. This is only one silly aberration, not reflective of the fact finally Richmond is getting its act together."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24086852-19742,00.html
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i was stirring..
you need to chill out and stop being too serious
So this matter is all one big joke is it?
Gary March and his football review run by failed ex-players with ZERO off field credentials has in one foul swoop demolished all the stability at the club that had been built over the last 9 years.
They've also made this club the laughing stock of the AFL again with their complete incompetance in handling the matter.
My opinion is that your nearly right Infamy, review and actions had to be done although the person doing the review is questionable.?
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A review should be done to find whoever leaked the information and whoever it was sacked and publicly humiliated.
Big mouths that like to blow their own trumpets dont belong at RFC.
Guess that rules a few out from here imo
Not overly fused on Greg, think he has done a reasonable job, on field proves that, What ? u don't think we have good kids I hear u say :wallywink
Seen a few arguments about the place on qualifications, well don't know who will be coming or going but picking people just because they played for Richmond doesn't stand for a real lot in regards to this, we haven't been real successful the last 30 years now have we.
Now I am not saying they will not be good choices, just putting a few holes in somes' feeble arguments re: who allready works at RFC.
Great win on the weekend by the way :gotigers
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l dont know what all the fuss is about.
its not like miller helped get us a premiership or anything.
l think too many people had him on a pedestal,including himself.
he has always had too much power at richmond,and holding a gun to the club by saying he would quit if casey wasnt elected .
richmond will have someone in mind to replace him,and most likely announce that at years end .
l see this move and others to come as being positive ,there are some very good people available out there and the time to strike is now ,before these new clubs take them.
miller is not a team player and likes to have all bases covered ,alot like wallace.
meaning he still had a strong interest in the roos being a shareholder,all you bleading hearts shouldnt cry too much ,because he will be back at north soon .
also miller had a different opinion to craig cameron about the way we are heading .
l would think royal and king could be under pressure ,but dont be surprised if wallace is sacked at the years end .
l think all in all the tigers are taking control back from certain individuals who have been given too much power.
wallace has come out and said millers sacking had effected his preparation on saturday.
why did it,is miller part of the coaching panel .
its time for richmond to get a coach who just coaches and a director of football who does just that .
as for craig lambert possibly coming back to the tigers ,he is very very good at what he does and has been widely acclaimed as being a big influence in brisbane being a force .
and cambos reputation is growing all the time he is doing great work at the bulldogs .
and maybe buckley coming to the club as well,he would be great teaching the youngsters .
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I really don't get the big deal about the North Melbourne shares. He's holding them for Bob Ansett, they aren't exactly his to sell despite them being in his name.
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I really don't get the big deal about the North Melbourne shares. He's holding them for Bob Ansett, they aren't exactly his to sell despite them being in his name.
lololol cmon you cant be that naive can you.
we are talking about a salesman here not the pope.
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it's dam embarrassing on an administrative level,after all we have been through.
Keep ur eyes on Tony the shifty dog Free............
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it's dam embarrassing on an administrative level,after all we have been through.
Keep ur eyes on Tony the shifty dog Free............
why is he a shifty dog ?
for doing his job .
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it's dam embarrassing on an administrative level,after all we have been through.
Keep ur eyes on Tony the shifty dog Free............
why is he a shifty dog ?
for doing his job .
for bringing rock spiders like u out of the wood work.
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pull your head in .
what are you another tough guy behind a computer .
you go around calling people shifty dog ,have you ever met tony free .
or for that matter do you even know what he does ?
maybe that questions abit hard for your mind .
dont hurt yourself thinking about it.
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Miller dumped for 'football' reasons
richmondfc.com.au
By Ben Broad
11:55 AM Mon 28 July, 2008
RICHMOND president Gary March said his club’s decision to severe ties with former Greg Miller over the weekend was football-based and aimed at giving his club the best chance of on-field success in coming years.
Speaking at Punt Road on Monday morning – a day after meeting with the former general manager of football operations – March admitted embarrassment at the way the Tigers had handled Miller’s departure from the club he had served for the past six years.
But the Richmond boss said the Tigers had to act to ensure they were in a good position when it came to making their most important football decisions in October.
“What we wanted to do was not be behind the rest of the field,” March said.
“It’s well documented there’s a number of clubs out there looking for different people … what we didn’t want to do was miss the best available person once we’d made the decision to move forward.”
March said Miller had been forced to be a “jack-of-all-trades” during his time at the Tigers but, while still a “great football person” did not fit the particular skill set Richmond was looking for to fill its current role.
He said the Tigers, while not having short-listed any candidates, might be after a more “contemporary” person to fill the role.
Asked if his Richmond board had been embarrassed with the way Miller’s departure had been made public, March said it “wasn’t ideal”.
“In an ideal world I would have sat down with Greg and we would have discussed it and worked on his departure,” March said.
“I’m disappointed it came out that way and I expressed that disappointment to Greg when I met with him yesterday.
“I’ll deal with that over the coming weeks [but] we haven’t had a leak in this organisation in the three years that I’ve been there and I’m disappointed that we’ve had one in this case.”
The club president said he spoke to Miller on Friday night but didn’t inform him of his sacking until across the weekend – despite reports to the contrary.
“[I spoke to him and said] I wanted to meet with him face-to-face to discuss the review and we needed to do that and could we do that over the weekend and that was the basis [of it],” March said.
“I definitely did not tell him he was sacked on Friday night.”
March also refuted suggestions Miller’s reputation had been tarnished across the weekend when the respected clubman went to ground after the story of his sacking first emerged.
Instead, he praised Miller and said he had acted “admirably”, refusing to show any “angst” towards his club despite feeling his days in his job may have been over.
March said speculation about assistant coaches in recent days – citing Jade Rawlings – had been “appalling”.
He made it clear that while his board carries out a review of the football department annually, positions such as assistant coaches are assessed by a football sub-committee.
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=64271
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Miller will be on SEN tomorrow morning.
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Miller will be on SEN tomorrow morning.
Which show?
:bow
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Miller will be on SEN tomorrow morning.
Which show?
:bow
Surely KB, he wouldn't come out to face the outside world for the first time with the breakfast crew. ;D :whistle
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“What we wanted to do was not be behind the rest of the field,” March said.
“It’s well documented there’s a number of clubs out there looking for different people … what we didn’t want to do was miss the best available person once we’d made the decision to move forward.”
Melbourne, Eagles and Port ..... ummm all well out of the finals race long ago Gary ::).
Essendon and Carlton used the same pitiful excuse last year and they still picked the guy in the office next door to the one they sacked. The Bombers were around the top 8 too and then lost every game.
Asked if his Richmond board had been embarrassed with the way Miller’s departure had been made public, March said it “wasn’t ideal”.
Well done Einstein on that answer. Like your response today: "On the review - well it's not a review as such" :wallywink. Where did you learn your media skills - off Frawley :rollin.
“In an ideal world I would have sat down with Greg and we would have discussed it and worked on his departure,” March said.
In an ideal world we wouldn't have a club president who is such a moron and puts board decisions before the interests of footy team which is our core business ::) :stupid :yep
“I’ll deal with that over the coming weeks [but] we haven’t had a leak in this organisation in the three years that I’ve been there and I’m disappointed that we’ve had one in this case.”
If things had been done properly and at the end of the season we wouldn't have had a leak in the first place to deal with as Miller would be called in the day after the last game and told to his face his services were no longer required.
After this episode of sheer incompetence you should join Miller out the door ::). LOL being a fly on the wall when March next talks to the players after this.
He made it clear that while his board carries out a review of the football department annually, positions such as assistant coaches are assessed by a football sub-committee.
Yep at the end of the season Gary when the team is on holidays so the club can solely concentrate on off-field areas. It's not hard ::).
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MT, I feel your pain.
All the drama surrounding the Gossage incident spooked them.
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there is no pain and we are moving forward
lets foregt miller, he is noiw the past and not richmond. lets move on full steem ahead and concentrating at shocking the footy world and beating geelong
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Miller will be on SEN tomorrow morning.
Which show?
:bow
Surely KB, he wouldn't come out to face the outside world for the first time with the breakfast crew. ;D :whistle
I just caught the end of them saying it. It sounded like it was the breakfast crew but being on KB's show would make more sense. Right before Tuesdays with Terry too so this saga will continue ::).
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Greg Miller was on the Couch with gerard, Mike and Wallsy.
I missed the first 3-5 minutes
* Said he first heard rumours last Tuesday when journo's were ringing him and other clubs were ringing him too.
* Always knew that he'd be under pressure if the on field results didn't improve but dfidn't regret supporting Wallace
* Said he found out Friday night.
* Answered the question about the accusation that he had gone off and hidden. He took a swipe at brian taylor over this saying he took offense to that as it was wrong. He said he spoke to Terry on Saturday morning and said that he thought it was in the best interests of the playing group for him not to be there seeing it was the clubs biggest game of the year
* Spoke about the "skill set" that Gary had spoken about at the media conference but he hadn't been given a clear definition from March what the skill set was
* Greg said that you needed a range of different skill sets at footy clubs to compliment each other.
* Also added that there are a lot of good people at Richmond
* Said he was proud of what he'd achieved in the 6 years, believes the Club is in a better place now culturally than when he arrived.
* Admitted that he had recommended to the board early in the season that they should extend Terry's contract
* Mike said that his "take" was the Board decided to review about 8 weeks ago, when the results on filed were average. Problem is the on field is now a lot better. Mike then said that it was clear that Greg was going to go at the end of the year but due to the leak it had happened now. Greg Miller agreed
That's all I can remember at the moment....
What what does it matter most will think it's only spin anyway
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Oh yeah
* GM Said Coaches should select their own assistants
* Also said it was good that it was now on record b ythe Club president that none of the assistant will be sack....
;D ;D very clever comment that one ;D :whistle
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Greg Miller was on the Couch with gerard, Mike and Wallsy.
I missed the first 3-5 minutes
* Said he first heard rumours last Tuesday when journo's were ringing him and other clubs were ringing him too.
* Always knew that he'd be under pressure if the on field results didn't improve but dfidn't regret supporting Wallace
* Said he found out Friday night.
* Answered the question about the accusation that he had gone off and hidden. He took a swipe at brian taylor over this saying he took offense to that as it was wrong. He said he spoke to Terry on Saturday morning and said that he thought it was in the best interests of the playing group for him not to be there seeing it was the clubs biggest game of the year
* Spoke about the "skill set" that Gary had spoken about at the media conference but he hadn't been given a clear definition from March what the skill set was
* Greg said that you needed a range of different skill sets at footy clubs to compliment each other.
* Also added that there are a lot of good people at Richmond
* Said he was proud of what he'd achieved in the 6 years, believes the Club is in a better place now culturally than when he arrived.
* Admitted that he had recommended to the board early in the season that they should extend Terry's contract
* Mike said that his "take" was the Board decided to review about 8 weeks ago, when the results on filed were average. Problem is the on field is now a lot better. Mike then said that it was clear that Greg was going to go at the end of the year but due to the leak it had happened now. Greg Miller agreed
That's all I can remember at the moment....
What what does it matter most will think it's only spin anyway
Yep, its spin ok.
The real story will come out in the wash, soon ;)
Now what does""white anting "" mean ?
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Oh yeah
* GM Said Coaches should select their own assistants
* Also said it was good that it was now on record b ythe Club president that none of the assistant will be sack....
;D ;D very clever comment that one ;D :whistle
Very good wording actually, Spud wasnt sacked either, just didnt have his contrcat renewed, same as will happen to the assistants
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Very good wording actually, Spud wasnt sacked either, just didnt have his contrcat renewed, same as will happen to the assistants
yes contracts - gotta love contracts ;)
So are you saying those with contracts are safe and those without are not
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This is very unprofessional.
Thought Gary March's reign hitherto had been hallmarked by quietly going about his business. How can you on one hand say its crucial to have this sorted out because the trading period is coming up, and on the other hand we havent got to the stage of canvassing for suitable replacements. It means we could finish the season with the position vacant.
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This is very unprofessional.
Thought Gary March's reign hitherto had been hallmarked by quietly going about his business. How can you on one hand say its crucial to have this sorted out because the trading period is coming up, and on the other hand we havent got to the stage of canvassing for suitable replacements. It means we could finish the season with the position vacant.
Whats funny is that Miller got March there, lol Talk about eating your own.lol
Miller had to go anyway. something about "'white ants""
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So is Free going to be the superstar recruiter/Board member ?
stuffen :rollin :wallywink
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So is Free going to be the superstar recruiter/Board member ?
effen :rollin :wallywink
Wouldnt think so, won woodens spoons at Prahran and Yarraville. coaching record is worse than yours brackets ;)
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Learn from Miller bungle
Herald-Sun | July 29, 2008
WHEN Richmond secured Greg Miller in 2002, it was both thrilled and relieved to land such an experienced and versatile person.
Just as he had been at South Melbourne/Sydney and North Melbourne, Miller went in at Punt Rd as the classic all-purpose player.
For two powerful reasons: (1) because Richmond was on its knees, and (2) because it's his nature to do whatever it is that must be done.
Six years on, what were seen as Miller's strengths have brought about his downfall.
Gary March's board has decided it wants a more contemporary figure, a fresh face, in charge of its football department. Someone with a different "skills set".
A skills set, apparently, that will place stricter controls on the football department, principally coach Terry Wallace. Make it more accountable, whatever that means.
What seems to have happened is March and Co decided several weeks ago on a vigorous review of the football department, with a view to major change at season's end.
Mid-season, the Tigers were 3-7 with one draw and 12th on the ladder. Another wasted year looked inevitable.
Yet, six rounds on, they are 8-8-1 and just half a game outside the eight.
Interesting that one close observer mused publicly a week ago whether everyone at the club was committed to playing finals. The better the side performed, the less likely a overhaul.
March addressed the media at Punt Rd yesterday to try to explain the bungled handling of Miller's removal.
"When Greg came, he was jack-of-all-trades in this club. We didn't have the resources around him . . . but we want to be one of the leaders in this competition."
Miller was a jack-of-all-trades because he was prepared to get his hands dirty.
He also believed in the old culture of leaving the coach and his assistants to their own devices unless they sought help, or clearly were struggling.
The March administration had other ideas.
"Do we need a more contemporary person." he asked yesterday? "Maybe. We've got to look at all of those things."
He acknowledged Miller's commitment, but said: "This is about a skills set that we felt Greg didn't have, the right skills set for what we were looking for going forward."
He declined to specify just which skills and conceded the timing of Miller's removal "wasn't ideal"
"In an ideal world, I would have sat down with Greg and we would have discussed it and worked on his departure."
He denied Miller's assertion he had confirmed the sacking by telephone late on Friday night, prompting Miller to miss the club's game on Saturday.
Bottom line? Clubs need to get much better at dealing with redundant staff, particularly those like Miller, who have given so much to the game.
West Coast announced mid-season that two assistants coaches would be gone at season's end; Melbourne dumped Paul McNamee after three months as chief executive. After he raised the issue after reading about speculation in the Herald Sun. Now Miller's gone after 38 years as a player, recruiter and administrator.
Clubs are a long time learning that decisions to replace key figures don't stay quiet for long.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24093299-19742,00.html
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Footy messiahs often prove false prophets
Herald-Sun | July 29, 2008
THE messiah syndrome in football is almost as old as the game.
So many clubs have looked to one man, whether it be a player, coach, president or even back-room operator, to lead them from a despairing drought to a rich harvest of premierships.
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Greg Miller arrived at Punt Rd in 2002 to save Richmond from itself. For years, the Tigers couldn't see a star recruit if he fell into their lap. They even took Aaron Fiora ahead of Matthew Pavlich one year.
Miller was the gun recruiter who had come to show them how to put together a premiership team. Six years later, some new board members were ready with the axe before they were barely through the door.
Messiah to mug. It's a common path in football. Malcolm Blight needed just 15 games at St Kilda, while it took Denis Pagan five seasons at Carlton.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24092958-19742,00.html
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Richmond president Gary March defends Greg Miller sacking
Michael Horan | July 29, 2008
Miller said last night he was a victim of a trend where boards wanted more control over football departments.
"The board's got involved in a lot more appointments down the line and they're seeking more control of the coach and they want a football director that has that control," he told Fox Sports' On The Couch.
"Boards want more control, they want answers down the line. The coach is answerable to the footy director and the footy director is answerable to the board."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24093289-19742,00.html
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March hinted yesterday that Miller, an often inspired but intuitive football thinker, did not possess either the will to remodel the Richmond football department or the ability to keep a managerial distance from those below him.
"The board felt that with the changing nature of football and the resurgence of our football club that we required a different skill set," March said.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24092349-5012432,00.html
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So is Free going to be the superstar recruiter/Board member ?
effen :rollin :wallywink
Wouldnt think so, won woodens spoons at Prahran and Yarraville. coaching record is worse than yours brackets ;)
This is what you wanted, Jack, so stop trying to distance yourself from it.
You and your mates are responsible for this kneejerk reaction by the club.
:banghead
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So is Free going to be the superstar recruiter/Board member ?
effen :rollin :wallywink
Wouldnt think so, won woodens spoons at Prahran and Yarraville. coaching record is worse than yours brackets ;)
This is what you wanted, Jack, so stop trying to distance yourself from it.
You and your mates are responsible for this kneejerk reaction by the club.
:banghead
You are deluded,, go and seek medical help.
Has nothing to do with me. I have nothing what so ever to do with Tony Free.
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So is Free going to be the superstar recruiter/Board member ?
effen :rollin :wallywink
Wouldnt think so, won woodens spoons at Prahran and Yarraville. coaching record is worse than yours brackets ;)
This is what you wanted, Jack, so stop trying to distance yourself from it.
You and your mates are responsible for this kneejerk reaction by the club.
:banghead
You are deluded,, go and seek medical help.
Has nothing to do with me. I have nothing what so ever to do with Tony Free.
she keeps saying you & your mates Jackstar, who are your mates, she keeps mentioning that phrase
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So is Free going to be the superstar recruiter/Board member ?
effen :rollin :wallywink
Wouldnt think so, won woodens spoons at Prahran and Yarraville. coaching record is worse than yours brackets ;)
This is what you wanted, Jack, so stop trying to distance yourself from it.
You and your mates are responsible for this kneejerk reaction by the club.
:banghead
You are deluded,, go and seek medical help.
Has nothing to do with me. I have nothing what so ever to do with Tony Free.
You and your mates in the President's Club kept on nagging the club to get rid of Wallace and Miller.
You've got your wish
And now you're backing away because they've got a crap replacement.
A jellyfish has more backbone that you have :rollin
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So is Free going to be the superstar recruiter/Board member ?
effen :rollin :wallywink
Wouldnt think so, won woodens spoons at Prahran and Yarraville. coaching record is worse than yours brackets ;)
This is what you wanted, Jack, so stop trying to distance yourself from it.
You and your mates are responsible for this kneejerk reaction by the club.
:banghead
You are deluded,, go and seek medical help.
Has nothing to do with me. I have nothing what so ever to do with Tony Free.
she keeps saying you & your mates Jackstar, who are your mates, she keeps mentioning that phrase
The lady needs medical help Monk, if she thinks the Miller sacking was big, wait till whats around the corner.
She should book herself in now. There might be a few front of her that will require help, lol
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So is Free going to be the superstar recruiter/Board member ?
effen :rollin :wallywink
Wouldnt think so, won woodens spoons at Prahran and Yarraville. coaching record is worse than yours brackets ;)
This is what you wanted, Jack, so stop trying to distance yourself from it.
You and your mates are responsible for this kneejerk reaction by the club.
:banghead
You are deluded,, go and seek medical help.
Has nothing to do with me. I have nothing what so ever to do with Tony Free.
she keeps saying you & your mates Jackstar, who are your mates, she keeps mentioning that phrase
The lady needs medical help Monk, if she thinks the Miller sacking was big, wait till whats around the corner.
She should book herself in now. There might be a few front of her that will require help, lol
How many years you been saying Wallace is gone?
Too many to count
I'm sure one of these years you'll eventually get it right, Mr Credibility :lol
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He has been "'spared"" by the last month.
Even Terry admitted on the radio on Sunday ( if you care to listen) that he was to be judged on performance. Not bad for a bloke who is on $600,000 a year and at the end of his fourth year to be made accountable..
Now you go and seek some medical advice Moi. ::)
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He has been "'spared"" by the last month.
Even Terry admitted on the radio on Sunday ( if you care to listen) that he was to be judged on performance. Not bad for a bloke who is on $600,000 a year and at the end of his fourth year to be made accountable..
Now you go and seek some medical advice Moi. ::)
Aren't we all judged on performance in any job.
What stupid comments you make, Jack :wallywink
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He has been "'spared"" by the last month.
Even Terry admitted on the radio on Sunday ( if you care to listen) that he was to be judged on performance. Not bad for a bloke who is on $600,000 a year and at the end of his fourth year to be made accountable..
Now you go and seek some medical advice Moi. ::)
Aren't we all judged on performance in any job.
What stupid comments you make, Jack :wallywink
Well he hasnt been. The question was asked to Steve Wright at a meeting in Dec, what KPI,s he replied ?, lol
Move on from slagging me MOI, has nothing to do with me, I only report whats happening, if you dont like it, dont reply.
What times your medical appointment ????
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Amusing Jack
Only because i actually have one at 4.30 :rollin
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dosent surprise me ;D
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The board wanting more control over the football department is very concerning
Too many cooks
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Well he hasnt been. The question was asked to Steve Wright at a meeting in Dec, what KPI,s he replied ?, lol
Move on from slagging me MOI, has nothing to do with me, I only report whats happening, if you dont like it, dont reply.
What times your medical appointment ????
You don't "report" Jack, you mouth off on an Internet forum.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
:thumbsup
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He has been "'spared"" by the last month.
Even Terry admitted on the radio on Sunday ( if you care to listen) that he was to be judged on performance. Not bad for a bloke who is on $600,000 a year and at the end of his fourth year to be made accountable..
Now you go and seek some medical advice Moi. ::)
Aren't we all judged on performance in any job.
What stupid comments you make, Jack :wallywink
Well he hasnt been. The question was asked to Steve Wright at a meeting in Dec, what KPI,s he replied ?, lol
Move on from slagging me MOI, has nothing to do with me, I only report whats happening, if you dont like it, dont reply.
What times your medical appointment ????
I would probably use the words
create ,
assume
embellish
invent
and "attemp to destabilise
probably the best one would be the words 'deliberately lie"
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He has been "'spared"" by the last month.
Even Terry admitted on the radio on Sunday ( if you care to listen) that he was to be judged on performance. Not bad for a bloke who is on $600,000 a year and at the end of his fourth year to be made accountable..
Now you go and seek some medical advice Moi. ::)
Aren't we all judged on performance in any job.
What stupid comments you make, Jack :wallywink
Well he hasnt been. The question was asked to Steve Wright at a meeting in Dec, what KPI,s he replied ?, lol
Move on from slagging me MOI, has nothing to do with me, I only report whats happening, if you dont like it, dont reply.
What times your medical appointment ????
I would probably use the words
create ,
assume
embellish
invent
and "attemp to destabilise
probably the best one would be the words 'deliberately lie"
Have never lied
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just by the reaction of alot of people ,obviously miller was put on a pedestal.
it wasnt long ago alot of people where saying get rid of him.
our recruiting was crap,miller and wallace where recruiting skinny small framed players,and they did .
the players that are keeping us a float at the moment are senior players ,richo ,brown ,bowden .
take them out and lets see how miller and wallace have recruited .
l see this move of getting rid of miller as a way of going forward .
and lets hope wallace and choco are next ,because wallace has one game plan and nothing else .
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He has been "'spared"" by the last month.
Even Terry admitted on the radio on Sunday ( if you care to listen) that he was to be judged on performance. Not bad for a bloke who is on $600,000 a year and at the end of his fourth year to be made accountable..
Now you go and seek some medical advice Moi. ::)
Aren't we all judged on performance in any job.
What stupid comments you make, Jack :wallywink
Well he hasnt been. The question was asked to Steve Wright at a meeting in Dec, what KPI,s he replied ?, lol
Move on from slagging me MOI, has nothing to do with me, I only report whats happening, if you dont like it, dont reply.
What times your medical appointment ????
I would probably use the words
create ,
assume
embellish
invent
and "attemp to destabilise
probably the best one would be the words 'deliberately lie"
Have never lied
no?
you just make things up?
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just by the reaction of alot of people ,obviously miller was put on a pedestal.
it wasnt long ago alot of people where saying get rid of him.
our recruiting was crap,miller and wallace where recruiting skinny small framed players,and they did .
the players that are keeping us a float at the moment are senior players ,richo ,brown ,bowden .
take them out and lets see how miller and wallace have recruited .
l see this move of getting rid of miller as a way of going forward .
and lets hope wallace and choco are next ,because wallace has one game plan and nothing else .
Correct
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because wallace has one game plan and nothing else.
That has to be one of the most absurd statements ever made about Terry Wallace
Terry is known as an inovater for a reason, in fact some critics say his game plans and the amount of strategy he uses are too complex
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So is Free going to be the superstar recruiter/Board member ?
effen :rollin :wallywink
Wouldnt think so, won woodens spoons at Prahran and Yarraville. coaching record is worse than yours brackets ;)
This is what you wanted, Jack, so stop trying to distance yourself from it.
You and your mates are responsible for this kneejerk reaction by the club.
:banghead
You are deluded,, go and seek medical help.
Has nothing to do with me. I have nothing what so ever to do with Tony Free.
she keeps saying you & your mates Jackstar, who are your mates, she keeps mentioning that phrase
The lady needs medical help Monk, if she thinks the Miller sacking was big, wait till whats around the corner.
She should book herself in now. There might be a few front of her that will require help, lol
Geez jack, give it a rest.
You have been predicting his sacking for 3 years
Eventually he will be moved on, it happens to all coaches, for FFS if you say you predicted it, when it eventually does happen, probably when his five years are up, no poo, you will really prove that you are a d!ckhead.
I have never seen such a "richmond supporter" so outwardly giggling with glee like a schoolgirl when there is even a scent of instability, no wonder this club has been so crap for so long, mate, grow up and face facts, its people like you that are the problem, you are not part of the solution
:pray
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Is Miller's 'Sacking' good or bad for Richmond ?
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Depends on who we replace him with...
Knowing us we will get someone who does a worse job..
Hearing Cameron Schwabs name mentioned here and there gives me the willies...
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So is Free going to be the superstar recruiter/Board member ?
effen :rollin :wallywink
Wouldnt think so, won woodens spoons at Prahran and Yarraville. coaching record is worse than yours brackets ;)
This is what you wanted, Jack, so stop trying to distance yourself from it.
You and your mates are responsible for this kneejerk reaction by the club.
:banghead
You are deluded,, go and seek medical help.
Has nothing to do with me. I have nothing what so ever to do with Tony Free.
she keeps saying you & your mates Jackstar, who are your mates, she keeps mentioning that phrase
The lady needs medical help Monk, if she thinks the Miller sacking was big, wait till whats around the corner.
She should book herself in now. There might be a few front of her that will require help, lol
Geez jack, give it a rest.
You have been predicting his sacking for 3 years
Eventually he will be moved on, it happens to all coaches, for FFS if you say you predicted it, when it eventually does happen, probably when his five years are up, no poo, you will really prove that you are a d!ckhead.
I have never seen such a "richmond supporter" so outwardly giggling with glee like a schoolgirl when there is even a scent of instability, no wonder this club has been so crap for so long, mate, grow up and face facts, its people like you that are the problem, you are not part of the solution
:pray
You know why I am crapped off, I want to be RFC be successfull.
How the stuff can I be the problem., I am not trying to protect a contract worth $600,000 a year , am I.
I am sick to death of people having a go and me for me having an opinion.
The RFC has under performed for long enough.
Whats of interest is that Gary March is sick of it as well, and as President he is doing something about it.
Miller had to go, NOT UP TOO IT, full stop.
And there are others who have bluffed there way into positions at the club that arent up to it either, they will be gone at years end.
Blaisee, you no doubt like Greg Miller, personally I dont. and I have my reasons
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So is Free going to be the superstar recruiter/Board member ?
effen :rollin :wallywink
Wouldnt think so, won woodens spoons at Prahran and Yarraville. coaching record is worse than yours brackets ;)
This is what you wanted, Jack, so stop trying to distance yourself from it.
You and your mates are responsible for this kneejerk reaction by the club.
:banghead
You are deluded,, go and seek medical help.
Has nothing to do with me. I have nothing what so ever to do with Tony Free.
she keeps saying you & your mates Jackstar, who are your mates, she keeps mentioning that phrase
The lady needs medical help Monk, if she thinks the Miller sacking was big, wait till whats around the corner.
She should book herself in now. There might be a few front of her that will require help, lol
Geez jack, give it a rest.
You have been predicting his sacking for 3 years
Eventually he will be moved on, it happens to all coaches, for FFS if you say you predicted it, when it eventually does happen, probably when his five years are up, no poo, you will really prove that you are a d!ckhead.
I have never seen such a "richmond supporter" so outwardly giggling with glee like a schoolgirl when there is even a scent of instability, no wonder this club has been so crap for so long, mate, grow up and face facts, its people like you that are the problem, you are not part of the solution
:pray
You know why I am crapped off, I want to be RFC be successfull.
How the eff can I be the problem., I am not trying to protect a contract worth $600,000 a year , am I.
I am sick to death of people having a go and me for me having an opinion.
The RFC has under performed for long enough.
Whats of interest is that Gary March is sick of it as well, and as President he is doing something about it.
Miller had to go, NOT UP TOO IT, full stop.
And there are others who have bluffed there way into positions at the club that arent up to it either, they will be gone at years end.
Blaisee, you no doubt like Greg Miller, personally I dont. and I have my reasons
to be honest jack, it was time for GM tobe moved on, 2 spoons in 6 years he had to be held accountable. The way its been done is
1. unneccessary
2. disspointing
He should have been managed out at the end of the year.
Wallet on the other hand is doing a superb job IMHO, we are the most exciting team in the league, we kick poo loads of goals, we tackle, we win the ball out of the middle, we have a cery very exciting core group of young players
This year especially wallet IMHO could not have done better so far. We should be supporting him
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I half agree with you Blaisee and would like to be proved wrong.
Would love to see the tiges successfull.
This Saturday will see where we are at, and I give us some chance to,
If they want to put up 6-1 , I might have a whack at it.
If we are going to beat the Cats, Telstra Dome is the venue.
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I checked yesterday us 5.00 them 1.15 - dont know what it is now ablett ruled out ?
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I half agree with you Blaisee and would like to be proved wrong.
Would love to see the tiges successfull.
This Saturday will see where we are at, and I give us some chance to,
If they want to put up 6-1 , I might have a whack at it.
If we are going to beat the Cats, Telstra Dome is the venue.
i know last time we played the cats there they killed us, but i think we are a chance
if we can keep our turnovers to a bare minimum, im sure we will our fair share of clearances and contested footy, and i reckon our pace can expose the cats. but its all up to the turnovers, we cannot afford to turn the ball over
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I half agree with you Blaisee and would like to be proved wrong.
Would love to see the tiges successfull.
This Saturday will see where we are at, and I give us some chance to,
If they want to put up 6-1 , I might have a whack at it.
If we are going to beat the Cats, Telstra Dome is the venue.
the fact that we are playing last years premiers ( that won by 20 goals) and beat us by 130 points last year, and we are the reigning wooden spooners, and that we are a chance in this game,speaks volumes for how far we have come.
Wallet has performed miracles this year. Absolutely outstanding effort all round.
If we hadnt sacked miller mid season, our performances would be all over the papers, instead we have to put up with the same old crapp :banghead
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why didnt we go for Balme a couple of months back he hadnt resigned with Geelong. Now he has a new deal with Geelong, Balme would have been good in this role at Richmond.
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why didnt we go for Balme a couple of months back he hadnt resigned with Geelong. Now he has a new deal with Geelong, Balme would have been good in this role at Richmond.
Yep Ramps. And a couple of months ago at least it would be understandable to make the change with the side at 3.5 wins from 12 rounds even though it still should've happened at the end of the season. Nah they choose a board meeting in the middle of a winning streak and with finals on the horizon to do it, putting the board before the team, and then when it leaks out they come up with some crap excuse that they would miss out on the best (Richmond) person if they didn't do it now ::).
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because wallace has one game plan and nothing else.
That has to be one of the most absurd statements ever made about Terry Wallace
Terry is known as an inovater for a reason, in fact some critics say his game plans and the amount of strategy he uses are too complex
NOW THATS ABSURD .
too complex come on ,he hasnt changed his style since hes been at the club .
its flawed especially with a young side there are far to many turnovers .
he is not flexible and he is not an innovator. he is trying to play a geelong style of game .
and he doesnt mind copying other clubs game plans .
l dont see anything original that he has done .
and the way he coaches is not helping the younger players ,its giving them some bad habits especially under pressure .
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So why does Wallace need to run classroom training on strategies?
You really could fit your football knowledge on the head of a pin and still have space left
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So why does Wallace need to run classroom training on strategies?
You really could fit your football knowledge on the head of a pin and still have space left
infamy your heads too big for your brain ,theres alot of empty space.
you said wallace is a innovator how is he.
or is that question too hard for you .
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Without even thinking about it too hard, how about the game against the, at the time, almost unbeatable Crows?
He was one of the pioneers of the mega-flood which beat the undefeated Bombers when he was at the Dogs
He used basketball maneuvers to rotate our tall forwards during an attack on goal
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from today's Sunday Herald-Sun......
Ex-Tiger boss back in the game
Greg Miller's absence from the world of football has ended following two years in the AFL wilderness. The former Richmond board member and director of football has signed with Ricky Nixon's powerful Flying Start management agency as general manager.
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he will fit right in with nixon what with both being spin doctors and all.
read this thread or last few pages anyway sheesh his spin sure had a few roped in. it was the same over on pre so many defended him for so long no one wanted to actually look at his performance recruiting list management etc.
sheesh i had some heated debates over this bloke going back as far as the end of 02. he and casey sure hurt this club probably more than any other pair of individuals.