One-Eyed Richmond Forum

Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: tigersalive on October 03, 2008, 12:56:10 PM

Title: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: tigersalive on October 03, 2008, 12:56:10 PM
THE AFL is set to showcase three strong Melbourne clubs on the Gold Coast for the next two years in a bid to compete with rival codes and continue momentum in its newest growth area.

Richmond
, Carlton and St Kilda appear certain to be playing home games at the Gold Coast Stadium at Carrara over the next two years in a bid to maintain high AFL interest before the start-up of the Gold Coast in 2011.

The powerhouse clubs will fill the void left by North Melbourne.

The league needed clubs to fill the gap left by the Kangaroos, who withdrew from the final year of their three-year contract to play three games on the Gold Coast next season.

The North Melbourne deal was for $1.2million from next year, which will now be shared equally among the Tigers, the Blues and the Saints.


The AFL is yet to finalise exact details of next year's fixture, but it is understood that Carlton will play Adelaide and St Kilda could play Brisbane on the Gold Coast after Collingwood pulled out after initially showing interest.

The Magpies broke all home-attendance records at the MCG this season by averaging 65,000, which included games against non-Victorian clubs Fremantle, West Coast and Adelaide.

While the Pies were keen to promote their massive following in Queensland, they believed they could have disenfranchised members and reserved-seat holders had they elected to move a home game to the Gold Coast.

In the Tigers' case, the Melbourne home game they will lose next year would more than likely have been a Telstra Dome match against another Victorian club.

It is believed the Gold Coast fixtures will provide the Tigers with a better net financial result of at least $250,000 in additional revenue each year.

Richmond president Gary March was unavailable for comment but it is understood the Tigers, without a major sponsor for 2009, will treat the Gold Coast as a vehicle for promotion and development of their supporter base outside Victoria. It is also an avenue to attract national sponsorship.

Next season a record number of Melbourne-based clubs will play home games outside Victoria. Only Collingwood, Essendon and the Kangaroos, for the first time in more than a decade, will play all 11 home games at either the MCG or Telstra Dome.

Apart from the Gold Coast exposure for the Tigers, Blues and St Kilda, the Western Bulldogs appear set to again play home games in Darwin and Canberra, Melbourne will play at least one match in Canberra, and Hawthorn will again host four games in Launceston.

The Tigers are heading for a profit this season of about $700,000, while Carlton is expected to make more than $2million.

St Kilda's figure should be somewhere near break-even. In a compete about-face after shunning Tasmania as a home venue, the Saints, with a new administration and coaching staff, will head north instead of south to help their bottom line.

The St Kilda experiment of playing home games in Launceston ended in 2007 after it played eight home games there between 2003 and 2006.

Carlton's desire to host games on the Gold Coast is based on building its national brand and for economic reasons.

As an example, when it hosted Brisbane at Telstra Dome in round eight in front of a crowd of 38,675, chief executive Greg Swann said it received a match return of just $26,700.

The Lions had requested a radical proposal to play Collingwood in consecutive matches next season in Queensland, which Brisbane claimed would have enhanced momentum for the code before the entry of the Gold Coast.

Heading the Lions' fixture wish list for seasons 2009 and 2010, was a bold plan to play the Magpies either side of a bye at the Gabba and Carrara.

Brisbane chief executive Michael Bowers said he was unaware of his club's exact involvement on the Gold Coast over the next two years, but welcomed it as a huge promotional tool for the code.

"As I've said before, the AFL wants to prepare the soil for the new Gold Coast club and we're prepared to be part of that promotion until they enter the competition in 2011," Bowers said.

"It's important that the AFL puts its best foot forward and the Lions should be playing a quality opposition. For us, it's a no-brainer. We want to be part of showcasing the game as an entree for the Gold Coast."

Interest in AFL on the Gold Coast has surpassed all expectation with expressions of interest from potential members now well in excess of 30,000, more than 10,000 ahead of the figure set to be established by next week when the consortium is officially approved by the AFL commission as the 17th licence holder.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,24438729-23211,00.html


Takes away a home game at the dump.

We make $400k gross instead of about $30000 at the Dome.

Hopefully it gives us a bit more leverage for a better draw at the MCG.

Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: Obelix on October 03, 2008, 01:03:06 PM
I can see the benefits in leveraging an interstate match to attract a better sponsorship deal.  Hadn't thought of that.  I would rather that home game be one against an interstate club such as Port or Freo - one that wouldn't normally draw a big home crowd anyway.
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: Smokey on October 03, 2008, 01:12:20 PM
I can see the benefits in leveraging an interstate match to attract a better sponsorship deal.  Hadn't thought of that.  I would rather that home game be one against an interstate club such as Port or Freo - one that wouldn't normally draw a big home crowd anyway.

Forget all the logic and niceties.  We get to see them at least once and possibly twice up here for the season - don't really care who they lay.  Yahooooooo!!!!!!!

Who cares about sponsorships and money and bottom lines.  It's all my  :santa and  :birthday rolled into one.  I think I'll have a  :cheers to celebrate.  Actually, its Friday arvo and I have a 2 hour wait at Hervey Bay airport to get home - I'll probably have 1 or 2 anyway.   ;D

Good news hey Julz?
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 03, 2008, 01:14:09 PM
Understand the $$$ angle but personallyI am deadset against it.

I pay significant $$$ dollars for my membership and I don't see why I should lose a home game in Melb.

Having said that if playing a game on the Gold Coast means we are guaranteedall our remaining games at the MCG then this sort of deal looks appealing.

 
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: Smokey on October 03, 2008, 01:26:09 PM
Understand the $$$ angle but personallyI am deadset against it.

I pay significant $$$ dollars for my membership and I don't see why I should lose a home game in Melb.

Having said that if playing a game on the Gold Coast means we are guaranteedall our remaining games at the MCG then this sort of deal looks appealing.

 

Putting my serious hat back on now, I understand your sentiment and those that buy memberships and can take advantage of the admission benefits year after year should be considered in any decision.  Another angle though, is that there are many, many members from interstate who rarely get a chance to see the club and even more rarely get a chance to benefit by free admission.  Their membership each year is generally more of a donation done in the spirit of something to help the club.  I don't begrudge those lucky enough to benefit from this short term change.  And I'm not saying that just because they chose the Gold Coast and it suits me in particular - the same would apply if it was Tasmania, Northern Territory etc.  Short term, significant financial boost, exposure to new markets - I think the pro's outweigh the con's.
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: tigersalive on October 03, 2008, 02:00:58 PM
Understand the $$$ angle but personallyI am deadset against it.

I pay significant $$$ dollars for my membership and I don't see why I should lose a home game in Melb.

Having said that if playing a game on the Gold Coast means we are guaranteedall our remaining games at the MCG then this sort of deal looks appealing.

Would it change your mind if an away game in Melbourne is changed to a "home game" for Richmond members to attend so therefore still getting your 11 games?

That said I think people need to put the clubs priorities ahead of their own since it's for just one home game.  Support the club first, not yourself.
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: cub on October 03, 2008, 02:08:28 PM
I get a holiday in the sun instead of going to turd dome  :thumbsup  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: Ramps on October 03, 2008, 03:18:24 PM
I could support it if we have 10 MCG home games a year.
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: mightytiges on October 03, 2008, 03:51:15 PM
From a purely dollar stance, you would want the GC game to be against a Victorian club so it'll be beamed back live into Melbourne. If it's against Port or Freo then the tv networks won't want to show it and the national exposure angle for doing it is lost. Also you lose home ground/state advantage playing it against an interstate side. Playing St Kilda up there is a better option given at least Carrara is a neutral venue rather than the Dome.

I can understand the reasoning if the payoff for doing it is we receive 10 home games at the 'G on a significantly better stadia deal playing Coll, Ess, Carl and even Hawthorn twice and by 2011 when GC17 enters the comp we then get all 11 home games at the 'G. Otherwise it just looks a desperate grab for cash by a worried board at the expense of the footy team. These decisions can backfire if playing one less home game in Melbourne costs us a spot in the finals or better. I've seen it happen before.

There's only one sure way to boost finances - Winning games and playing Finals.
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: bojangles17 on October 03, 2008, 04:07:09 PM
we would be FOOLS to decline an opportunity to increase revenues in an increasingly difficult economic environment...it's a 2-3 year arrangement that will help us at a small price for us to pay considering we will still see 16-17 games live in melb
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: Mopsy on October 03, 2008, 05:19:25 PM
It will mean another chance for me to see a game next season - we have not had a brissie game for 2 years.

See you there Julz :)

Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 03, 2008, 05:59:05 PM
What a load of crap.

selling a home game i will never agree with. Its not always about the money. If we made he finals the money and sponsors will come!!

whats next all home games to be played at Telstra.

Anothe great off season find for the RFC
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: torch on October 03, 2008, 06:17:37 PM
:(
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: 1965 on October 03, 2008, 08:09:16 PM
What a load of crap.

selling a home game i will never agree with. Its not always about the money. If we made he finals the money and sponsors will come!!

whats next all home games to be played at Telstra.

Anothe great off season find for the RFC

It is always about the money.

No money we go out of business.

 :wallywink
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 03, 2008, 08:51:42 PM
What a load of crap.

selling a home game i will never agree with. Its not always about the money. If we made he finals the money and sponsors will come!!

whats next all home games to be played at Telstra.

Anothe great off season find for the RFC

It is always about the money.

No money we go out of business.

 :wallywink

I understand that but our money should come if we play finals.

We do our part as supporters year in year out.

I have been a member for nearly 10 years for jack finals and look at us we are smashing it.

Make finals and we will rival in of the top 3 including the blues. No need to sell games. March is not doing his job if he is selling games like that.

Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: bojangles17 on October 03, 2008, 09:49:31 PM


I understand that but our money should come if we play finals.

We do our part as supporters year in year out.

I have been a member for nearly 10 years for jack finals and look at us we are smashing it.

Make finals and we will rival in of the top 3 including the blues. No need to sell games. March is not doing his job if he is selling games like that.


[/quote]

Both Hawthorn and Geelong have proven in recent seasons that a solid financial base is as much a key to success as a good FF. any of the teams on special assistance will never be anymore than a qualifier, to be a gebuine contender , a club needs to be flush with capital so compromises aren't made along the way. We have some way to go before we are on solid  financial footing...Hawthorn showed great vision in underpinning the finaces of the club with a lucrative sponsorship that involved selling 4 games...we neednt do that...but if trading ahome game realises us 300-400k in tough times...we should be in full support...I'd hate to be in melbournes shoes , wouldn't you
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: Moi on October 04, 2008, 09:58:22 AM
Whatever it takes for us to survive in a game that's slowly but surely going more national.
There'll be no love for the lowly Melbourne clubs once all this is up and going.
So we try and increase our brand nationally as well instead of trying to keep what we had going 30 years ago.
I'm not happy, but what can you do.
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: Ramps on October 04, 2008, 10:16:38 AM
just on Moi last point of whatever it takes ... I feel the thing that will haunt us is being beaten to the punch by Hawthorn to Waverley Park. We should have been the club that got that deal, we would be right in our heartland anyway ... that was another issue.
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: blaisee on October 04, 2008, 10:38:31 AM
What a load of crap.

selling a home game i will never agree with. Its not always about the money. If we made he finals the money and sponsors will come!!

whats next all home games to be played at Telstra.

Anothe great off season find for the RFC

thanks jack

you are an imbecile
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: bojangles17 on October 04, 2008, 08:15:25 PM
just on Moi last point of whatever it takes ... I feel the thing that will haunt us is being beaten to the punch by Hawthorn to Waverley Park. We should have been the club that got that deal, we would be right in our heartland anyway ... that was another issue.

No , way , once punt rd developments are complete, we will be the envy of everyone with flash new social club et al right in the shadows of MCG....fat lot of good waverley is 28km from their home ground
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: mightytiges on October 04, 2008, 09:36:57 PM
A back to the future idea for us. We played games in Sydney in 79-80 before the Swans went up there. Won both too.

Round: 15 Venue: S.C.G. Date: 15-Jul-1979 2:10 PM Attendance: 17,140
Fitzroy      5.4  11.6   15.10   20.15-135
Richmond 6.7  10.14  16.16   22.20-152

Goals: Roach 7, Bartlett 3, Raines 2, Rowlings 2, Wood 2

29 Bartlett, Kevin         49 Berry, Jeff                 38 Bottams, Phillip                         
30 Bourke, Francis        33 Cloke, David              5 Dunne, Emmett                     
15 Heard, Bob              20 Jess, Jim                  18 Keane, Merv                     
1 Lee, Mark                 11 Monteath, Bruce         23 Oborne, Rod       
4 Raines, Geoff              8 Roach, Michael           24 Robertson, Graeme         
22 Rowlings, Barry       14 Tempany, Bruce         3 Weightman, Dale     
28 Williams, Peter        16 Wood, Bryan

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/games/1979/061419790715.html

Round: 16 Venue: S.C.G. Date: 20-Jul-1980 2:10 PM Attendance: 14,077
St Kilda     7.1    7.1   10.3      11.4-70
Richmond  5.3  13.7  24.11    34.18-222

Goals: Roach 10, Bartlett 6, Monteath 5, Cloke 3, Weightman 2, Smith 2, Dunne 2.

29 Bartlett, Kevin           38 Bottams, Phillip          30 Bourke, Francis                     
33 Cloke, David              28 Collins, Dennis           5 Dunne, Emmett         
20 Jess, Jim                   18 Keane, Merv               1 Lee, Mark                     
7 Malthouse, Mick           11 Monteath, Bruce         4 Raines, Geoff                     
8 Roach, Michael            22 Rowlings, Barry          46 Smith, Terry                   
19 Strachan, Greg          14 Tempany, Bruce         3 Weightman, Dale         
2 Wiley, Robert               16 Wood, Bryan   

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/games/1980/141519800720.html
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: F0551L on October 04, 2008, 09:45:47 PM
A back to the future idea for us. We played games in Sydney in 79-80 before the Swans went up there. Won both too.

Round: 15 Venue: S.C.G. Date: 15-Jul-1979 2:10 PM Attendance: 17,140
Fitzroy      5.4  11.6   15.10   20.15-135
Richmond 6.7  10.14  16.16   22.20-152

Goals: Roach 7, Bartlett 3, Raines 2, Rowlings 2, Wood 2

29 Bartlett, Kevin         49 Berry, Jeff                 38 Bottams, Phillip                         
30 Bourke, Francis        33 Cloke, David              5 Dunne, Emmett                     
15 Heard, Bob              20 Jess, Jim                  18 Keane, Merv                     
1 Lee, Mark                 11 Monteath, Bruce         23 Oborne, Rod       
4 Raines, Geoff              8 Roach, Michael           24 Robertson, Graeme         
22 Rowlings, Barry       14 Tempany, Bruce         3 Weightman, Dale     
28 Williams, Peter        16 Wood, Bryan

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/games/1979/061419790715.html

Round: 16 Venue: S.C.G. Date: 20-Jul-1980 2:10 PM Attendance: 14,077
St Kilda     7.1    7.1   10.3      11.4-70
Richmond  5.3  13.7  24.11    34.18-222

Goals: Roach 10, Bartlett 6, Monteath 5, Cloke 3, Weightman 2, Smith 2, Dunne 2.

29 Bartlett, Kevin           38 Bottams, Phillip          30 Bourke, Francis                     
33 Cloke, David              28 Collins, Dennis           5 Dunne, Emmett         
20 Jess, Jim                   18 Keane, Merv               1 Lee, Mark                     
7 Malthouse, Mick           11 Monteath, Bruce         4 Raines, Geoff                     
8 Roach, Michael            22 Rowlings, Barry          46 Smith, Terry                   
19 Strachan, Greg          14 Tempany, Bruce         3 Weightman, Dale         
2 Wiley, Robert               16 Wood, Bryan   

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/games/1980/141519800720.html

ah the great old days   :) not many people there to pay the way though  then :-\
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: julzqld on October 05, 2008, 09:46:30 AM
I'm with Smokey.  After 2 years of not having any games up here, I would welcome the chance to see Richmond on the Gold Coast.  And it would be nice not to have to drive nearly 100km to get to the game either. :pray
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: Hes My Hero on October 05, 2008, 04:35:06 PM
OK, so as i understand it this is what will happen.

10 Home games in Melbourne.
1 In QLD
+ ticketed members gain free access into an away game played in Melb to replace the QLD one.

We still get access to 11/17 games in Melbourne with ticketed membership.
+ $400,000 in the coffers and a game up North ( a mini holiday for some maybe ?)
+ there is a good chance that this may be played on a Fri or Saturday night.

So could someone please point out the negatives, because personally i see this as a positive, onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 05, 2008, 06:09:28 PM
OK, so as i understand it this is what will happen.

10 Home games in Melbourne.
1 In QLD
+ ticketed members gain free access into an away game played in Melb to replace the QLD one.

We still get access to 11/17 games in Melbourne with ticketed membership.
+ $400,000 in the coffers and a game up North ( a mini holiday for some maybe ?)
+ there is a good chance that this may be played on a Fri or Saturday night.

So could someone please point out the negatives, because personally i see this as a positive, onwards and upwards.

Negatives:

Selling home games interstate.
if we won enough games to make finals we wouldn't need to sell home games.

Personally doesn't effect me as my lady gets cheap flights but to the normal Joe blo its hard to come up with cash to see their team play interstate.

2 tickets =$400
car and hotel.

$1000 weekend for what. Nothing.

With a new team starting up on the Gold Coast, all the support will go that club.

We have always had a solid membership base even with only 2 finals appearances in 25 years so i think they should reward us by getting the best deal for us.

More home games at the g and less at that Telstra hole.

I dont care about what the hawks done by going to Tassy but our homeland is here. We were a powerhouse and lets get that back.
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: Jacosh on October 05, 2008, 06:30:12 PM
OK, so as i understand it this is what will happen.

10 Home games in Melbourne.
1 In QLD
+ ticketed members gain free access into an away game played in Melb to replace the QLD one.

We still get access to 11/17 games in Melbourne with ticketed membership.
+ $400,000 in the coffers and a game up North ( a mini holiday for some maybe ?)
+ there is a good chance that this may be played on a Fri or Saturday night.

So could someone please point out the negatives, because personally i see this as a positive, onwards and upwards.
Negatives:

Selling home games interstate.
if we won enough games to make finals we wouldn't need to sell home games.

Personally doesn't effect me as my lady gets cheap flights but to the normal Joe blo its hard to come up with cash to see their team play interstate.

2 tickets =$400
car and hotel.

$1000 weekend for what. Nothing.

With a new team starting up on the Gold Coast, all the support will go that club.

We have always had a solid membership base even with only 2 finals appearances in 25 years so i think they should reward us by getting the best deal for us.

More home games at the g and less at that Telstra hole.

I dont care about what the hawks done by going to Tassy but our homeland is here. We were a powerhouse and lets get that back.

Some see the glass half full.
Others see it as half empty.
And then there are some that are so blinded by their own personal issues they dont see at all.
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: bojangles17 on October 05, 2008, 06:53:36 PM
OK, so as i understand it this is what will happen.

10 Home games in Melbourne.
1 In QLD
+ ticketed members gain free access into an away game played in Melb to replace the QLD one.

We still get access to 11/17 games in Melbourne with ticketed membership.
+ $400,000 in the coffers and a game up North ( a mini holiday for some maybe ?)
+ there is a good chance that this may be played on a Fri or Saturday night.

So could someone please point out the negatives, because personally i see this as a positive, onwards and upwards.

Negatives:

Selling home games interstate.
if we won enough games to make finals we wouldn't need to sell home games.

Personally doesn't effect me as my lady gets cheap flights but to the normal Joe blo its hard to come up with cash to see their team play interstate.

2 tickets =$400
car and hotel.

$1000 weekend for what. Nothing.

With a new team starting up on the Gold Coast, all the support will go that club.

We have always had a solid membership base even with only 2 finals appearances in 25 years so i think they should reward us by getting the best deal for us.

More home games at the g and less at that Telstra hole.

I dont care about what the hawks done by going to Tassy but our homeland is here. We were a powerhouse and lets get that back.

thats all well and good my friend but being rightoeus doesn't exactly swell the balance sheet. I'd much prefer to preserve the future of my footy club with a short term venture than be stupidly defiant and put the club in a perilous situation during a difficult economic period
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: cub on October 05, 2008, 08:05:11 PM
OK, so as i understand it this is what will happen.

10 Home games in Melbourne.
1 In QLD
+ ticketed members gain free access into an away game played in Melb to replace the QLD one.

We still get access to 11/17 games in Melbourne with ticketed membership.
+ $400,000 in the coffers and a game up North ( a mini holiday for some maybe ?)
+ there is a good chance that this may be played on a Fri or Saturday night.

So could someone please point out the negatives, because personally i see this as a positive, onwards and upwards.

Negatives:

Selling home games interstate.
if we won enough games to make finals we wouldn't need to sell home games.

Personally doesn't effect me as my lady gets cheap flights but to the normal Joe blo its hard to come up with cash to see their team play interstate.

2 tickets =$400
car and hotel.

$1000 weekend for what. Nothing.

With a new team starting up on the Gold Coast, all the support will go that club.

We have always had a solid membership base even with only 2 finals appearances in 25 years so i think they should reward us by getting the best deal for us.

More home games at the g and less at that Telstra hole.

I dont care about what the hawks done by going to Tassy but our homeland is here. We were a powerhouse and lets get that back.

thats all well and good my friend but being rightoeus doesn't exactly swell the balance sheet. I'd much prefer to preserve the future of my footy club with a short term venture than be stupidly defiant and put the club in a perilous situation during a difficult economic period

And that is it in a nutshell BJ (not the son of a beach BJ) ;D - times they are a changin, as long as our home is the G and we play at least 3/4 of our games in Melbourne, what can I say I don't like it ! but I love the Tigers and if it means we have a STRONG future - so be it.

I don't necessarliy like it, I would prefer going back to the old days to be honest  :thumbsup but that's just not reality is it.

I can be a miserable K and hate it all I want, and I do - But that is defeating the purpose of what my life and my love for the Tigers is all about. So I will deal with it.

I JUST WANT A FREAKIN FLAG MAN .............
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: mightytiges on October 05, 2008, 08:27:14 PM
Although there'll be no new supporters to be made out it on the Gold Coast we'll be doing the AFL a favour promoting the game until GC17 enter the comp. I'm hoping that favour will be returned with the AFL giving us all other home games at the 'G and a significantly better MCC stadia deal. Because right now we are getting screwed and taken for granted by the MCC given the top 4 crowds we bring to the 'G.

OK, so as i understand it this is what will happen.

10 Home games in Melbourne.
1 In QLD
+ ticketed members gain free access into an away game played in Melb to replace the QLD one.

We still get access to 11/17 games in Melbourne with ticketed membership.
+ $400,000 in the coffers and a game up North ( a mini holiday for some maybe ?)
+ there is a good chance that this may be played on a Fri or Saturday night.

So could someone please point out the negatives, because personally i see this as a positive, onwards and upwards.
HMH do you know the bold part will be the case for sure?

It would mean one less interstate trip elsewhere compared to this year. So although we lose a home game in Melbourne we effectively would be replacing one interstate away game to WA, SA or Sydney with one neutral game on the Gold Coast against another Victorian side.
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 05, 2008, 08:33:56 PM
Would it change your mind if an away game in Melbourne is changed to a "home game" for Richmond members to attend so therefore still getting your 11 games?


Not really I have always fundamentally been against selling home games....

Based on what other clubs do in this situation (eg Hawks & Dogs) which is they use their membership to get into a designated away game, it would still not give me my "home game" privileges (read reserve seats, pre-match function room) which I pay a helluva lot for and that is a concern to me....

Quote
That said I think people need to put the clubs priorities ahead of their own since it's for just one home game. 

I appreciate that the club needs to raise revenues, believe me I understand that as well as anyone... but you say it is "just one home" what happens if it becomes 2, then perhaps 3 ..where do you draw the line...

Call me cynical but.....

Quote
Support the club first, not yourself.

I could really take offence to that last comment and I am sure no offence was meant but I know I have been supporting this club "first" for close to 30 years now.

I reckon buying extra memberships with reserve seats, attached, attending all functions sort of proves that....

I travel interstate regularly, actually this is the frist time in 3 years I haven't been to every H&A game in a season.

I am also aware that we haven't had a game in QLD for 2 seasons and I reckon that's disappointing becuase the Qld trip is my favourite.

But surely the Club could push harder for an away game against the Lions to cover our QLd & Northern NSW members?

End of the day I will remain a member because that's what I do no matter what... I don't put conditions on my loyalty to this footy club.

I can guarantee I will travel to the Gold Coast for this home game and will no doubt enjoy it

But it doesn't mean I have to support the decision of selling a "home game".

As  I said at the beginning guarantee us our remaining home games at the MCG then I'll accept it ....

Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: bojangles17 on October 05, 2008, 09:38:20 PM
OK, so as i understand it this is what will happen.

10 Home games in Melbourne.
1 In QLD
+ ticketed members gain free access into an away game played in Melb to replace the QLD one.

We still get access to 11/17 games in Melbourne with ticketed membership.
+ $400,000 in the coffers and a game up North ( a mini holiday for some maybe ?)
+ there is a good chance that this may be played on a Fri or Saturday night.

So could someone please point out the negatives, because personally i see this as a positive, onwards and upwards.

Negatives:

Selling home games interstate.
if we won enough games to make finals we wouldn't need to sell home games.

Personally doesn't effect me as my lady gets cheap flights but to the normal Joe blo its hard to come up with cash to see their team play interstate.

2 tickets =$400
car and hotel.

$1000 weekend for what. Nothing.

With a new team starting up on the Gold Coast, all the support will go that club.

We have always had a solid membership base even with only 2 finals appearances in 25 years so i think they should reward us by getting the best deal for us.

More home games at the g and less at that Telstra hole.

I dont care about what the hawks done by going to Tassy but our homeland is here. We were a powerhouse and lets get that back.

thats all well and good my friend but being rightoeus doesn't exactly swell the balance sheet. I'd much prefer to preserve the future of my footy club with a short term venture than be stupidly defiant and put the club in a perilous situation during a difficult economic period

And that is it in a nutshell BJ (not the son of a beach BJ) ;D - times they are a changin, as long as our home is the G and we play at least 3/4 of our games in Melbourne, what can I say I don't like it ! but I love the Tigers and if it means we have a STRONG future - so be it.

I don't necessarliy like it, I would prefer going back to the old days to be honest  :thumbsup but that's just not reality is it.

I can be a miserable K and hate it all I want, and I do - But that is defeating the purpose of what my life and my love for the Tigers is all about. So I will deal with it.

I JUST WANT A FREAKIN FLAG MAN .............

well said CUB, it's like asking ya kids to eat their veggies, sure they dont like it, but it's for the best :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 05, 2008, 09:42:47 PM
well said CUB, it's like asking ya kids to eat their veggies, sure they dont like it, but it's for the best :gotigers

Fair way to look at it BJ17 :clapping :clapping

But just like eating my veggies... I can stomp my feet, moan, groan and throw a tantie about because I don't like it  ;D :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: julzqld on October 06, 2008, 08:19:35 AM
With a new team starting up on the Gold Coast, all the support will go that club.


I wouldn't be so sure about that.
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: mightytiges on October 06, 2008, 07:21:47 PM
If we play North up there we'll have 100% crowd support. GC hates North now.
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on October 06, 2008, 08:07:56 PM
I've always hated North and that mythical "Shinboner Spirit"  :lol :rollin :lol
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: mightytiges on October 06, 2008, 10:04:42 PM
I've always hated North and that mythical "Shinboner Spirit"  :lol :rollin :lol
It doesn't exist in September that's for sure lol.
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: Francois Jackson on October 07, 2008, 07:37:48 AM
I've always hated North and that mythical "Shinboner Spirit"  :lol :rollin :lol
It doesn't exist in September that's for sure lol.

at least they play regular finals thats more than us

Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: bojangles17 on October 07, 2008, 09:43:16 PM
I've always hated North and that mythical "Shinboner Spirit"  :lol :rollin :lol

I once referred to it as rubbish in a bottle :whistle
Title: Tigers join Gold Coast expansion (RFC)
Post by: one-eyed on October 17, 2008, 04:28:44 PM
Tigers join Gold Coast expansion
4:02 PM Fri 17 October, 2008

Richmond, along with Carlton and St Kilda, will play one home game each year for the next two years on the Gold Coast.

“AFL is the premium national football brand and the opportunity to showcase our club in one of the fastest growing corridors in Australia is a great one for Richmond,” Richmond CEO Steven Wright said

“It will assist in the continued development of Richmond’s national profile and allow us to continue to build our membership throughout Australia,” Wright said.

“The Gold Coast game will provide significant benefits to the club and we will ensure our Victorian members will not miss out. In 2009, we will be playing 17 games in Victoria, the same as in 2008.”

“Additionally, members will get access to an additional MCG game in lieu of the Gold Coast game. This means in 2009, Richmond members will get access to 9 MCG and 2 Telstra Dome games,” he said.

“This is an excellent outcome for our members and will also provide additional financial security for the Club through these difficult economic times.”

“Additionally, with the game fixtured during school holidays we anticipate many Richmond fans will make the trip north to watch the inaugural Richmond game,” Wright said.

Senior coach Terry Wallace said: “The game is now well and truly national. By playing one game a year on the Gold Coast we will be able to reach out to our interstate supporters and also get crucial game time playing on the surface at Carrara,” he said.

Richmond vice captain Chris Newman said: “We are excited that our Richmond brand will be involved with marketing the AFL expansion in South East Queensland and we urge our supporters to come along and watch us play on the Gold Coast.”

AFL Chief Operating Officer Gillon McLaughlin said it was important to fixture strong games next season to continue to build interest in the code.

“We know that the best advertisement for AFL is to see a game live. The atmosphere created by thousands of passionate fans combined with the fast-paced action and skill of AFL provides great entertainment,” he said.

“We’re thrilled to have three of our traditional AFL Clubs in Carlton, Richmond and St Kilda joining with us to build the game in South East Queensland, by bringing great teams and local heroes to the Gold Coast next year.”

Richmond stars Luke McGuane and Andrew Raines are just two of the Richmond AFL players that are looking forward to playing for the Tigers in their home state of Queensland.

http://www.afl.com.au/AFL2008/News/Article/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=69069
Title: Your Richmond on the Gold Coast questions answered (RFC)
Post by: one-eyed on October 17, 2008, 04:32:34 PM
Your Gold Coast questions answered
4:01 PM Fri 17 October, 2008

Richmond CEO Steven Wright answers your questions about Richmond’s involvement with the Gold Coast in the next two seasons.

How many games will Richmond play in Victoria in 2009?
In 2009, Richmond will play a total 17 home and away games in Victoria, the same number as in 2008.

As a ticketed member, how many games will I get access to? Do I get one less game in Victoria?
Richmond standard ticketed members will still get entry into the traditional 11 Melbourne based games. In 2009, they will get access to 9 MCG games (2008: 8) and 2 Telstra Dome games (2008:3). Ten of these games will be home games and the other game will be a replacement (away) game in which Richmond plays at the MCG in lieu of the Gold Coast game.  Further details of which game will be the replacement game will be finalised shortly. Subject to ground capacity, Richmond 17 game members will continue to get access to the 17 Victorian games in which Richmond play.

I am a reserved seat member for all Richmond home games. At how many games will I have a reserved seat?
Richmond members will have a reserved seat at 10 home games in Melbourne (8MCG, 2 TD) and access to a reserved area at the MCG for the replacement (away) game. Details of the replacement game and reserved area will be finalised shortly and advised to reserved seat holders asap.

Why did Richmond agree to play one home a year on the Gold Coast for the next two years?
The AFL is now a truly national code. Its expansion plans into the Gold Coast and Western Sydney will further cement the national profile of the game, As a club, we have members, supporters and sponsors who are spread across the entire country with many in Sth East Queensland. This move to play a game on the Gold Coast will give those Richmond members, supporters and sponsors the opportunity to experience their club first hand as well as raise our profile in one of the fastest growing regions of Australia. The financial benefits to be received by the club for playing on the Gold Coast will also provide additional financial security for the club during these difficult economic conditions.  It is also anticipated that Carrara, where the Richmond game will be played, will also be the home ground for the new Gold Coast team. Playing this game at Carrara will give our players additional experience on that ground before the Gold Coast team enters the competition.

Is Richmond the only club to play a game on the Gold Coast or play home games interstate?
No not at all. Next year most of the Victorian teams will be playing a home game interstate. Only Collingwood, Essendon and the Kangaroos will not do so.  Carlton and St Kilda have also agreed to play a game on the Gold Coast. Unlike some other clubs we will not be playing a home game interstate at the other team’s home ground. Carrara will be a neutral venue.

Will my Adult 11/17 game membership allow me entry into the Cold Coast Game?
Richmond has organised access to a replacement (away) game at the MCG for members in lieu of the Gold Coast game. Ticketed members will have access to that replacement game at the MCG but will not have access to the Gold Coast game. If you would like to attend the Gold Coast game you will need to buy a ticket to that game.

What if I am a country or interstate member and want to attend the Gold Coast game?
As part of your membership you are able to nominate 5 home games you would like to attend. You can choose to nominate the Gold Coast game. All you need to do is call our membership department on 1300 136 605.

http://www.afl.com.au/AFL2008/News/Article/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=69068
Title: Re: Tigers join Gold Coast expansion (RFC)
Post by: cub on October 17, 2008, 04:39:20 PM
Tigers join Gold Coast expansion
4:02 PM Fri 17 October, 2008


“Additionally, with the game fixtured during school holidays we anticipate many Richmond fans will make the trip north to watch the inaugural Richmond game,” Wright said.


http://www.afl.com.au/AFL2008/News/Article/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=69069

Ohh freakin great - Do they factor in twice the price for everything from airfares too accomadation  :banghead Guess I better start saving .....
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: mightytiges on October 17, 2008, 09:38:06 PM
That explains why the club jumped at the idea and not just for the extra cash. A way to get a 9th "home" game at the 'G and reduce our home games at the Dome. I've got a feeling the replacement game will be against the Hawks. We apparently will only play them once away at the 'G.

Only 4 other interstate trips is a pretty good deal as well.
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: julzqld on October 18, 2008, 09:05:16 AM
Well I'm happy.
Title: Re: Your Richmond on the Gold Coast questions answered (RFC)
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 18, 2008, 09:51:28 AM
Will my Adult 11/17 game membership allow me entry into the Cold Coast Game?
Richmond has organised access to a replacement (away) game at the MCG for members in lieu of the Gold Coast game. Ticketed members will have access to that replacement game at the MCG but will not have access to the Gold Coast game. If you would like to attend the Gold Coast game you will need to buy a ticket to that game.

Hmmm  not overly happy about that - I hope the Club organises the tickets so we can purchase them directly form the Club rather than having to go through the hassle of dealing with ticket agencies

But I'll be there  :-\ ;D - the peanuts (aka the Cubs) are very happy that I am coming up to see them and yeah they're pretty stoked about the Tigers too  ;D
Title: Re: Your Richmond on the Gold Coast questions answered (RFC)
Post by: Smokey on October 18, 2008, 10:05:23 AM

But I'll be there  :-\ ;D - the peanuts (aka the Cubs) are very happy that I am coming up to see them and yeah they're pretty stoked about the Tigers too  ;D

You callin' me a peanut WP?   :P
Title: Re: Your Richmond on the Gold Coast questions answered (RFC)
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 18, 2008, 12:32:34 PM

But I'll be there  :-\ ;D - the peanuts (aka the Cubs) are very happy that I am coming up to see them and yeah they're pretty stoked about the Tigers too  ;D

You callin' me a peanut WP?   :P

 ;D

Nah Smokey

The peanuts is the joint nickname for my nephew & niece - I've always called them the peanuts....

I haven't seen them for nearly 2 years since they moved up to Brisbane to live, so a couple of Tiger games in Qld is good for me because I get to see them again  :clapping
Title: Re: Your Richmond on the Gold Coast questions answered (RFC)
Post by: Smokey on October 18, 2008, 01:19:52 PM

The peanuts is the joint nickname for my nephew & niece - I've always called them the peanuts....

I haven't seen them for nearly 2 years since they moved up to Brisbane to live, so a couple of Tiger games in Qld is good for me because I get to see them again  :clapping

 ;D

I call my 2 grandkids that live with me the "ferals" and it's pretty apt!  I've just had to put on the ogur mask because I caught them in the backyard covered in mud after being told to keep clear of it.  Still, life would be pretty boring without them.  What area of Brissie?  I live northside, near Caboolture.
Title: Re: Your Richmond on the Gold Coast questions answered (RFC)
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 18, 2008, 03:50:39 PM
;D

I call my 2 grandkids that live with me the "ferals" and it's pretty apt!  I've just had to put on the ogur mask because I caught them in the backyard covered in mud after being told to keep clear of it.  Still, life would be pretty boring without them.  What area of Brissie?  I live northside, near Caboolture.

They live in Birkdale - a suburb of brissie I believe
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: mightytiges on October 18, 2008, 08:45:32 PM
What crap was Watson carrying on about Friday morning. I heard a replay of it last night of him going on about how Richmond playing on the Gold Coast is a sign of us being in financial trouble and all this garbage  ::). Andy Mayer of course joined in as well. Did they both miss the news that Carlton with Pratt's billions are playing a game up there too  ::).
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: cub on March 05, 2009, 01:44:19 AM
So what is the replacement game and more importantly, the AFL site says tickets for the Gold coast game go on sale 20th March.

Is this a free for all or do members have priority booking or what, some info before they go on sale would be nice RFC !?

I am booking flights and accom this week, not happy Jan if ended up with no ticket ! but that's highly unlikely 'old fox too cunning'  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: julzqld on March 05, 2009, 08:37:32 AM
Tickets on sale in March for the July game?  Or is there going to be another game, apart from next weeks and the July game played up here?
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: tiogar on March 05, 2009, 09:44:34 AM
Understand the $$$ angle but personallyI am deadset against it.

I pay significant $$$ dollars for my membership and I don't see why I should lose a home game in Melb.

Having said that if playing a game on the Gold Coast means we are guaranteedall our remaining games at the MCG then this sort of deal looks appealing.

 

There is only one way to guarantee 10 games at the G. It is the way Colligwood do it. Average 60,000 there.
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: one-eyed on March 05, 2009, 03:32:12 PM
Tickets on sale in March for the July game?  Or is there going to be another game, apart from next weeks and the July game played up here?

The Lions vs Tiges NAB Challenge tickets are on sale today from 9am today according to the ticketmaster site.

http://www.ticketmaster.com.au/event/13004242C7BF689C?artistid=800824&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=711 (http://www.ticketmaster.com.au/event/13004242C7BF689C?artistid=800824&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=711)

No mention of our "home" game up there on the ticketmaster site. The AFL site says H/A season tickets at the Gold Coast stadium go onsale on March 20.

Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: mightytiges on March 05, 2009, 03:56:17 PM
So what is the replacement game
From memory it's out of 3 away games - Melbourne, Carlton or Essendon - in the second half of the year. Given the popularity of the latter two and trying to fit all members of two big clubs into the MCG at once, IMO they'll make the replacement game the Demons one. By then all their supporters will be up at the snowfields lol so there'll be plenty of room and good seats on offer.
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: julzqld on March 05, 2009, 04:34:04 PM
Woohoo - got mine!
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: tigersalive on March 06, 2009, 01:35:08 PM
Spot on MT with the replacement game.  :thumbsup

Quote
Thank-you for your email.

The replacement game for the Gold Coast game will be in Round 18 against Melbourne on Sunday 2nd August. More details about this match will be available closer to the match.

Kind Regards,

Shelley James
Member and Supporter Services
Title: Re: Richmond sell one home game to the Gold Coast.
Post by: mightytiges on March 07, 2009, 07:36:12 PM
Spot on MT with the replacement game.  :thumbsup

Quote
Thank-you for your email.

The replacement game for the Gold Coast game will be in Round 18 against Melbourne on Sunday 2nd August. More details about this match will be available closer to the match.

Kind Regards,

Shelley James
Member and Supporter Services
Cheers for that TA  :cheers
Title: Tigers announce replacement GC home game - R18 vs Melb
Post by: one-eyed on April 22, 2009, 03:43:08 PM
Tigers announce replacement game
richmondfc.com.au | Wed 22 April, 2009

The Richmond Football Club will play one of its allocated 11 home games on the Gold Coast in 2009.
 
The Club has nominated the Round 18 match against Melbourne as a replacement game (in lieu of the Gold Coast game). All members with entry entitlements will receive admission to this game, by scanning their membership card at the turnstiles (subject to capacity).
 
Reserved seat holders will be allocated an area within the Ponsford Stand (further details to be confirmed). Your seasonal reserved seats (printed on your membership card) will not be accessible for this match.
 
Country/Interstate 5 members can nominate to attend the Gold Coast game by calling Member and Supporter Services on 1300 136 605 (numbers are limited).

Richmond 11 and 17 game members will not receive admission to the Round 14 Gold Coast match. If you would like to attend the Gold Coast game you can purchase tickets through Ticketmaster on 1300 136 122, online at www.ticketmaster.com.au or via any Ticketmaster outlet.
 
Social Club members will have access to the Yarra Park Room at the MCG as per normal home game procedures (subject to change – members will be notified of any changes).

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/75424/default.aspx