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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 16, 2008, 03:17:08 AM
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The Tigers also last night delisted a further two players — Danny Meyer and Travis Casserly — ahead of the draft.
Age link (http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/cats-quick-to-pounce-on-lappin/2008/10/15/1223750133887.html)
Out: Tivendale, Hyde, Meyer, Casserly
In: Thomson
So this leaves us with 35 on our senior list which satisfies the Oct 31 first list lodgement criteria and hence 3 draft picks to use: 8, 26 & 58.
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Petts and JON are very very lucky if that's the final senior list delistings :P.
Looks like Polly is remaining on the senior list as well as the club said.
No mention of rookie delistings yet.
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Do you think we might pick Danny back up with 58 if there is nothing we want left? Hawthorn were interested in him at last year's trade period weren't they? Could Chocco grab another one off us who comes good and Danny get to go home?
Will we rookie Cass? Can't see him attracting much interest from other clubs.
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Will we rookie Cass? Can't see him attracting much interest from other clubs.
Travis Casserley was drafted by us because of his supreme skills as an 18yo.
He has had 3 years of AFL training and on-ground VFL experience.
He must be better now, than he was at 18, so I would think that we should rookie him, or re-draft him, or that there will some attraction by other clubs.
Hwever, Dean Limbach was de-listed and not picked up again so anything can happen with Travis and Danny.
Good luck boys, I hope it all works out for both.
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Disappointing that Meyer has gone, and shocked that Pettifer stays on the list.
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Disappointing that Meyer has gone, and shocked that Pettifer stays on the list.
Wayne has said it 100% correct.
Its another farcical RFC list management decision.
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Interesting on Meyer I believe he was getting some raps at the end of the season in Coburg for some good games. I expected him with a solid pre season to start making it into the tiges side. Also think he was being named emergency a lot at the end of the year as well.
With the reported deep draft I don't know if he will be picked up at 58.
I think Casserley's time was up and best wishes to both lads.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
meyer ahead of JOn and Pathetic
I dont rate Meyer but to be dumped ahead of those 2 is beyond me.
what a joke Wallace and his mates are
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Agree with Wayne, dissapointing result.
Would have rathered all 4 delisted and if only one was kept would have preferred it to be Meyer.
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With the extended rookie list, I hope we redraft both in the rookie draft
Petts should have definitely gone first
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Disappointing that Meyer has gone, and shocked that Pettifer stays on the list.
Was my first reaction and still is :help Not so much about Myer, BUT ahead of petticoat
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Disappointing that Meyer has gone, and shocked that Pettifer stays on the list.
Shocked ... canot believe it actually
Amazing decision
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Disappointing that Meyer has gone, and shocked that Pettifer stays on the list.
Shocked ... canot believe it actually
Amazing decision
why are you shocked.
your mate wallace is a fool. Nothing should surprise.
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your mate wallace is a fool. Nothing should surprise.
My mate ::)
Now that is funny ;D
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Disappointing that Meyer has gone, and shocked that Pettifer stays on the list.
it's possible we may still delist pettifer after the at a later date to pick up an extra player in the national draft or PSD
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Disappointing that Meyer has gone, and shocked that Pettifer stays on the list.
it's possible we may still delist pettifer after the at a later date to pick up an extra player in the national draft or PSD
Absolutely an option peggles...
These de-listing are rerquired by the 31/10/08 as per the Nat Draft rules, they certainly can make more changes
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SEN have confirmed from the RFC that Hyde, Meyer and Cass are gone.
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Richmond list changes
richmondfc.com.au
2:26 PM Thu 16 October, 2008
Richmond has made three further changes to its playing list ahead of the 2009 season, with Chris Hyde, Danny Meyer and Travis Casserly informed they will not be offered new contracts.
The Tigers have now made four changes to their 2008 list, following Greg Tivendale’s departure at the end of the season.
Hyde was recruited to the club in the 2000 National Draft with pick 40 overall, amassing 93 games and kicking 39 goals over nine years.
His best season came in 2006, when he played all 22 games, kicked 13 goals and averaged 16.7 possessions.
He produced a career-high 29 possessions against the Western Bulldogs in round three, 2005, and was awarded a total of eight brownlow votes.
Meyer arrived at the club from South Australia via the 2004 National Draft, where he was taken with pick 12.
He made his debut in round six, 2005, playing six games for the season. He added eight games in the following year and three in 2007, taking his career tally to 17 in three seasons.
Casserly endured a frustrating run with injury during three seasons at Tigerland, with persistent soft tissue injuries thwarting his bid to kick-start a career at senior AFL level.
He was selected with pick 40 in the 2005 National Draft after impressing at senior level with Swan Districts in the Western Australian Football League, but did not play a senior game with the Tigers.
Richmond will finalise the changes to its playing list before the AFL list lodgement deadline of October 31.
The club’s remaining selections in the 2008 National Draft include 8, 26, 58, 74, 90, 106 and 122.
The Tigers used their third round pick (no. 42) to secure Port Adelaide midfielder Adam Thomson during AFL Trade Week.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/AFL2008/News/Article/tabid/6301/default.aspx?newsid=69034
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Pettifer ???
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Unless Meyer and Cass' bodies are both stuffed from chronic injury then this decision has all the hallmarks of list management based on trying to save money. Petts' knee means we would have to look after him and his rehab anyway next year whether he is cut or not. Likewise keeping Polly on the senior list. This decision is perhaps cheaper in regards to our TPP. That's the only reason I can think of for us keeping Petts (apart from stupidity) although we would've had to pay Cass out of his final year which costs us dollars (he would've been on a cheapish contract not playing any games).
JON wasn't going anywhere despite what I or any of us think. The club still believes he'll come good and were willing from the start to give him 4 years at least to develop :-\.
Do you think we might pick Danny back up with 58 if there is nothing we want left? Hawthorn were interested in him at last year's trade period weren't they? Could Chocco grab another one off us who comes good and Danny get to go home?
Will we rookie Cass? Can't see him attracting much interest from other clubs.
I doubt it on both. You'd definitely wouldn't waste pick 58 redrafting a player you have just delisted. Well I hope not :-\. This draft has some depth.
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Meyer & Casserly were duds
why Richmond held onto Meyer is a terrible decision.
bad decisions have cost the club over many years.
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...although we would've had to pay Cass out of his final year which costs us dollars (he would've been on a cheapish contract not playing any games).
Is it possible that Casserley's contract is like Ackland's? You know certain criteria needing to be meet to guarantee a 2nd year? That would mean there is no $ payout implications wouldn't it :-\
Or perhaps as MT says the $$$ aren't that great anyway
I still cannot understand how Petts has managed to survive... :help
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Meyer & Casserly were duds
why Richmond held onto Meyer is a terrible decision.
bad decisions have cost the club over many years.
I think what we are all trying to say is there were more than those 2 that deserved to get the chop. Petts is very very lucky - 27 in Jan with a knee that mostly likely will see him miss a fair bit of next season and who spent most of this year at Coburg. JON likewise is very lucky but he has the footy dept on his side.
Look at Port today. They went the other way and swung the axe big time. 12 delistings (including rookies) in one swoop. Not to mention 9 drafts picks :o because they back the depth in this draft.
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They had there chance, sorry but someone had to make room. Petts was our VC, JON has been given one last chance, both know thet are on death row and lets hope they grab that chance. I think its great that we are struggleing to delist players - here comes the Tiga's
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Petts being named in the leadership group at the start of the year was an equally surprising decision.
Is it possible that Casserley's contract is like Ackland's? You know certain criteria needing to be meet to guarantee a 2nd year? That would mean there is no $ payout implications wouldn't it :-\
Could be a possibility WP as at least one Tiger who was re-signed recently has rumouredly accepted that sort of 1+1 performance based contract. For the club's sake it would be better as it would mean no payout.
Polo might get a shock if he reads the Sportal article on this. They've got his photo in the story about Meyer :wallywink.
http://sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/tigers-lose-patience-with-meyer-58704
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
meyer ahead of JOn and Pathetic
I dont rate Meyer but to be dumped ahead of those 2 is beyond me.
what a joke Wallace and his mates are
Yes Danny, a pathetic decision to keep Pettifer and let Meyer go. Would only accept this if it was for long term medical reasons, although Pettifer is stuffed for next year anyway!!!!
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they're all poo so who cares?
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Maybe Cass will be put on the rookie list if no one else takes him.
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i dont think there is a very solid case in retaining either Cass or Meyer and it would only baffle further if we were intending rookie listing either...4 yrs is more than adequate time. I agree JON would appear extremely lucky, that said, he appeared in Burger BEST more often than the others mentioned...I suspect the call on petts may have something to do with our obligations to him...all in all we cant really complain :o
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We just upgraded pick 12 from the 2004 draft by replacing that with Thommo and pick 11. :whistle Of course that's nothing against Thommo.
The club had perservered with Meyer and his injuries and he just seemed to be coming good at the end of the year playing some good footy at Coburg. Unless as previous posts have mentioned he has chronic injuries or he just simply did not fit into Terry's 2009 plans and beyond (if Terry retains his job) then I just find it baffling.
Pettifer's retention was just staggering as even more so was JON's.
There will be no grey area with Meyer's delisting this time next year. It will be 100% vindicated or many at Punt Rd will have egg on their face as well as us die hards will be scratching our heads and watching on with envy as some other club picks him up as a cheap insurance policy and he brings home more than just the bacon. :banghead
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Good decisions by Cameron. Both were having ZERO impact for us.
Hopefully one or two more delistings to come and we get some footballers who can contribute to the cause.
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Good decisions by Cameron. Both were having ZERO impact for us.
Hopefully one or two more delistings to come and we get some footballers who can contribute to the cause.
no one disagrees with you but seriously any footballer in the AFL should not be delisted before Pathetic Pettifer.
Surely this cant be true. Nothing gets me more angry than this stuffhead wearing Richmond jumper.
he is one selfish unit who is a rubbish footballer to boot.
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Good decisions by Cameron.
Ironic isn't it. Some on here were quite effusive in their joy that list management had been taken out of the hands of Wallace and passed to Cameron but find old habits die hard by blaming Wallace when some delistings don't match their own expectations or opinions. ???
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Good decisions by Cameron.
Ironic isn't it. Some on here were quite effusive in their joy that list management had been taken out of the hands of Wallace and passed to Cameron but find old habits die hard by blaming Wallace when some delistings don't match their own expectations or opinions. ???
do we know without a shadow of a doubt that wallace had nothing to do with keeping Pettcoat and dumping others.
do we???
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
meyer ahead of JOn and Pathetic
I dont rate Meyer but to be dumped ahead of those 2 is beyond me.
what a joke Wallace and his mates are
I don't think anyone can argue with that. I totally agree.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
meyer ahead of JOn and Pathetic
I dont rate Meyer but to be dumped ahead of those 2 is beyond me.
what a joke Wallace and his mates are
I don't think anyone can argue with that. I totally agree.
Dumfounded
Disgusted
Disillusioned
Oh this is not the D thread - Sorry Danny, I cant believe you are going ahead of these. I am sure you will show this to be a very bad decision.
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do we know without a shadow of a doubt that wallace had nothing to do with keeping Pettcoat and dumping others.
do we???
So you're happy to blame him without a shred of evidence then?
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the club obviously felt Meyer was weaker than JON.
Could it be the fact he was always crying about his injuries?
Could it be the fact he was a cry baby without a ticker?
At least Jon gets on the track,as pathetic as he has been going.
Meyer is a wimp and surely has issues that added to this decision being made.
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If ever some places come up in RFC list management positions maybe some of you guys should apply.
At the end of day the RFC list management team are the people in the best position to know the full story on each individual player and make the best decision according to the goal of maximising list strength. There could be a load of things the general public don't know about the situation.
However everyone is entitled to their opinion even if colourful.
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do we know without a shadow of a doubt that wallace had nothing to do with keeping Pettcoat and dumping others.
do we???
So you're happy to blame him without a shred of evidence then?
who recruited him fool????
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do we know without a shadow of a doubt that wallace had nothing to do with keeping Pettcoat and dumping others.
do we???
So you're happy to blame him without a shred of evidence then?
who recruited him fool????
Your point?
And in answer to your pointless response - I'm assuming the one who used to get the blame for all the recruiting blunders - Miller. Do you have any facts to add/enlighten us with or is this just more of your blind hatred ranting?
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At least Jon gets on the track,as pathetic as he has been going.
Meyer is a wimp and surely has issues that added to this decision being made.
I'd say that there is definitely an element of truth in what you are saying re Meyer.
JoN? Not convinced by any stretch that he'll make it and if pushed I would cut him but not before Meyer, so JoN gets one more year.
no one disagrees with you but seriously any footballer in the AFL should not be delisted before Pathetic Pettifer.
Surely this cant be true. Nothing gets me more angry than this effhead wearing Richmond jumper.
he is one selfish unit who is a rubbish footballer to boot.
Pettifer for all his faults, is 3 times the player Meyer will ever be.
Danny Meyer was the most disappointing and overrated footballer on our list.
It's a very solid decision by CC.
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There must be something that the club knows about these two players that we don't and I believe it is injuries. I think Meyer hip must be chronic and Casserly soft tissue injuries are relentless.
From the outside though I am like the rest of you Petts and JON should have been delisted over Meyer. It seemed to me that Meyer was finally coming good.
I just hope another club doesn't pick him up and he does a Rodan on us!
Stripes
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I just hope another club doesn't pick him up and he does a Rodan on us!
Stripes
O V E R R A T E D
Tell me stripes..apart from one reasonable game, what has Meyer offered Richmond in 4 years exactly?
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Well the obvious answer is nothing.
He was a first round draft pick with lots of potential, an introverted character (or so its said) and a host of injuries has just about killed his AFL career.
However he was hitting some form later on in the year and just about making the tiges side. I assumed he was building up to getting another crack early next year.
Anyway like Stripes said I hope it doesn't bite us I would rather the Thompson trade be our revenge for Rodan.
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I just hope another club doesn't pick him up and he does a Rodan on us!
Stripes
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Tell me stripes..apart from one reasonable game, what has Meyer offered Richmond in 4 years exactly?
I agree he has done nothing since he has been drafted but to repeat Chuck17 he was getting himself in some excellent form in the later part of the season. Unlike someone like Petts, Tiv or Hyde he has not had an injury-free run. If he was stuggling to get in the side because of form rather than injury I would be more confident in our decision to delist him but he still remains a potentially brilliant player. We took him at 12 for a reason.
I think we should have given him another year where he has an injury-free opportunity to show us if he can make it. At the moment he remains a young unknown quanity and I would be surprized if another club doesn't pick him up in the PSD.
I just believe you know what you are getting with a player like Petts where Meyer is still a potential star who has had a terrible run with injuries. Another year to see if he can stay injury-free and force his way into the team would have made me more comfortable either way.
As I mentioned earlier though I just hope the club knows something we don't about his fitness
Stripes
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I think we should have given him another year where he has an injury-free opportunity to show us if he can make it.
I would argue that was this season just passed.
Meyer had to make an impact this year and he did not manage a senior game.
He had been passed by others and was not looking like forcing his way into the side.
Excess to list requirements & too far back.
Easy delist IMO.
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I think we should have given him another year where he has an injury-free opportunity to show us if he can make it.
I would argue that was this season just passed.
Meyer had to make an impact this year and he did not manage a senior game.
He had been passed by others and was not looking like forcing his way into the side.
Excess to list requirements & too far back.
Easy delist IMO.
valid points. easy delist.
just dont like seeing anyone go before petts
does anyone have any inside info as to what was wrong with this kid. Immature, missed home???
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But he still hasn't shown us what he has got and at only 21 he may still have a great deal to give. If he hadn't been showing such promise for Coburg at the end of the year I would have agreed with you but he was on the cusp of breaking into the seniors and this was even after an injury interupted year. With a proper pre-season under his belt and a clear run he may have finally fufilled the clubs faith in him but now we will never know (well at least at our club).
Petts on the other hand was dropped because he others had clearly passed him who were younger and had the potential to improve even more. Petts will be unavailable all year rgardless where Meyer was both younger and could have been in the mix to play. Meyer has the potential where Petts has nothing more to give than what he has shown us already.
The choice should have been clear IMHO - one player can't play for the year while the other can. One player still has the potential to become a quality player while the other is an average mid-sized forward. One is 21 the other 27.
I just find the choice perplexing
Stripes
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do we know without a shadow of a doubt that wallace had nothing to do with keeping Pettcoat and dumping others.
do we???
So you're happy to blame him without a shred of evidence then?
who recruited him fool????
Who recruited Pettifer? Well that was Greg Beck and Danny Fraudley
Miller, Wallace, Cameron were not at the club when Petts was drafted, in fact they werent at the club for 4 years after he was selected
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do we know without a shadow of a doubt that wallace had nothing to do with keeping Pettcoat and dumping others.
do we???
So you're happy to blame him without a shred of evidence then?
who recruited him fool????
Who recruited Pettifer? Well that was Greg Beck and Danny Fraudley
Miller, Wallace, Cameron were not at the club when Petts was drafted, in fact they werent at the club for 4 years after he was selected
How Beck kept his recruiting job for 8 years is one of the mysteries of the universe :P. Mind you the club hardly cared about investing in recruitment resources :banghead.
Petts has always had natural ability but as was mentioned in the Cotch thread even those with natural talent still need to do the hard work to succeed. Petts was given senior games by Spud in his first 4 years despite delivering little. A bad habit that he never had to earn his spot in the side and work on his workrate deficiencies at a young age at VFL level. He's never had to learn defensive pressure as a forward. He looked like he was turning his career around in Wallace's first couple of years but then the game changed in the last 18 months, exposed Petts' major deficiency (no defence) and he's been left behind with Morton taking his place.
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Playing devils avoacado, Greg Beck often had all his early picks traded away and left him not much to work with
You also never know what his instructions were, instead of going for best available he could have been told by the coach "We need a small forward" (Pettifer) or "We need some pace in the midfield" (Fiora). Having Richo & Ottens on the list meant that our coach was comfortable with those positions being sorted so looked for guns elsewhere rather than making long term structural decisions.
He had some decent pick ups with late selections who played quite a few games with us, but also that is a bit of a false economy as they often were the only players we had so were given games by default
At the end of the day, without being a fly on the wall for the 8 years he was with us we'll never know how much was his ineptitude and how much was the coach at the time. Given the coaches we had in those 8 years, even working together, they wouldn't be able to organise a root in a brothel with a fistful of 50s.
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True infamy. Fiora was definitely picked up because we "needed" more skillful running midfielders. The problem was Fiora wasn't/isn't a midfielder but a flanker :scream.
I'm definitely not letting Geisch and Spud off the hook for their incompetence as far as managing our playing list ;). The other factor in those days was the CEO and our shocking TPP structure. Paying 100% of the salary cap despite continued failure to make the finals and far too much of the TPP dollars concentrated in just a handful of players despite once again them failing to deliver.
Carlton laying out and concentrating its dough in just a select few could be heading for a similar scenario :pray lol.
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i still can not believe Kayne Pettifer is still on our list !!!
i can see why Meyer was delisted ... though i would of kept Meyer.
Hyde was always going to be delisted ... it is funny, because didn't Hyde retire ??? which brings me too Tivendale ... did Tivendale announce his retirement ??? because i heard he was entering the Pre Season Draft ??? is that true ???
Casserly - drafted at pick 40 in the 2005 draft and never played for Richmond in three seasons ... i can see why we delisted him ... though he was injured a fair bit wasn't he ???
i think what has saved Kayne is his injury and also the funny fact that he is in our leadership group this year ... would be funny if we did delist him, which we should of and Kayne should realise he is lucky to not been delisted ...
i hope we make more delistings ... Pettifer, JON and the three old rookies ...
and when is Kane, Joel, Troy, Brown going to retire ??? Richardson can play untill he is fourty years old !!!
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Simmo can't retire til we have a decent mobile ruckman ready to go. In 2007 we struggled big time in the middle and around the ground without him in there.
The effect he has on our team when he is fit and ready is enormous and while I believe we have all the rest of the retirees covered (maybe even Richo included), at the moment we dont have a replacement for Simmo that is anywhere near ready.
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No guarantees it means he's safe but Petts is on the cover of the 2009 RFC calendar according to the RFC site.
http://www.clubsonline.com.au/shop/index.cfm?fuseaction=Display_Product&ProductID=7684&orgid=1751&cfid=22176973&cftoken=81736313&dts=20102008431245 (http://www.clubsonline.com.au/shop/index.cfm?fuseaction=Display_Product&ProductID=7684&orgid=1751&cfid=22176973&cftoken=81736313&dts=20102008431245)
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lol.
Sorry Terry, you can't delist him, the calendars already printed.
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No guarantees it means he's safe but Petts is on the cover of the 2009 RFC calendar according to the RFC site.
http://www.clubsonline.com.au/shop/index.cfm?fuseaction=Display_Product&ProductID=7684&orgid=1751&cfid=22176973&cftoken=81736313&dts=20102008431245 (http://www.clubsonline.com.au/shop/index.cfm?fuseaction=Display_Product&ProductID=7684&orgid=1751&cfid=22176973&cftoken=81736313&dts=20102008431245)
next that stuffhead TW will make him captain.
the RFC have shown yet again why they have no stuffin idea.
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No guarantees it means he's safe but Petts is on the cover of the 2009 RFC calendar according to the RFC site.
http://www.clubsonline.com.au/shop/index.cfm?fuseaction=Display_Product&ProductID=7684&orgid=1751&cfid=22176973&cftoken=81736313&dts=20102008431245 (http://www.clubsonline.com.au/shop/index.cfm?fuseaction=Display_Product&ProductID=7684&orgid=1751&cfid=22176973&cftoken=81736313&dts=20102008431245)
lolroflcakes @ Bling Captain pee pee and pettigirl just about having this whole site covered
in that no one here will be buying that calander :rollin
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IIRC either Rodan or it might have been Chubba were on the calendar the year after they were cut. These calendars are printed before any delistings have been made so "mistakes" are bound to be made from time to time. Mind you I think we can think of 12 Tigers more popular than Petts lol.
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HYDE PICKS TIGERS
Border Mail
David Johnson
5/11/2008
FORMER Richmond midfielder Chris Hyde is the latest star recruit to join a resurgent Albury in the Ovens and Murray Football League next season.
Hyde, 26, will become the most credentialled player to join an O and M club for many seasons after playing 93 senior AFL games for Richmond.
The former Barooga player was drafted to the Tigers from the Murray Bushrangers and became a highly sought after player once he was delisted by Richmond at the end of this season.
Paul Spargo is returning to Tigerland as coach next season and spent two years as an assistant coach at Richmond when Hyde started his AFL career.
“He will be a fantastic addition to our side,” Spargo said last night.
“He is very good player and the young players we have at the club will learn so much from a player who has played at the level he has.”
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Being an Albury boy myself I am wrapped with this news
Go Hydey :gotigers
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Ovens & Murray league is a good comp.
Albury's ground is one of the better ones IMHO, certainly alot better than the Lavington sports ground ;D
Have seen a couple of Albury games over the years, good luck to Hydey
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Not up to it Hydey, at least he was/is a goer :thumbsup
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He will star at that level given his age, ability and experience.
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All the best to Hydey. At only 26 he's still got plenty of footy at his peak in him. He'll kill them up there.
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Tom Petroro from Strides Sports management was asked about Danny Meyer on SEN tonight and he said AFL clubs now have to pay players that are training with them so Meyer may be training by himself.
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Tom Petroro from Strides Sports management was asked about Danny Meyer on SEN tonight and he said AFL clubs now have to pay players that are training with them so Meyer may be training by himself.
Not worth paying to train? Might not even get picked up.
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Tom Petroro from Strides Sports management was asked about Danny Meyer on SEN tonight and he said AFL clubs now have to pay players that are training with them so Meyer may be training by himself.
Not worth paying to train? Might not even get picked up.
Glenelg is where it's rumoured Danny will end up but there's no confirmation on the SANFL forum. Is he even truly over his hip problem to continue to play footy at any level?!
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Is he even truly over his hip problem to continue to play footy at any level?!
Don't know for sure, but given his late form at the end of this season I assumed he was.
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Could be garbage but there's a rumour doing the rounds on the Hawk's BF board that Meyer may be training with them.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=518237
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Wouldn't be surprised given past history, will be a cheap pick up for a former first rounder.
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Wouldn't be surprised given past history, will be a cheap pick up for a former first rounder.
Yep. Better than trading a third round pick for a player that was going to be delisted anyway like we did ::).
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Confirmation that Meyer is training at Hawthorn
http://afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=70079
Meyer, 22 and the No. 12 pick of the 2004 NAB AFL Draft, has commenced training with Hawthorn after being let go by Richmond, while colourful ex-Demon Carroll has been enjoying a summer hit-out with St Kilda.
Drat I was hoping we would pick him up, hope he doesn't bite us on the bum.
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Meyer could bite us a la Rodan-style if he is truly gets over his hip problem. After 4 years on our list Danny was always at risk of being delisted so I don't have a major problem with the decision to let him go. Sometimes tough decisions need to be made. It's just that one or two others IMO were more likely delisting candidates before him. Petts was probably one of them until he did his knee. Seems our finances are still having some say in our list decisions :-\.
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The AFL site has a "highlights" video of Meyer against Adelaide in 2007. They didn't do him much a favour in the first half of the clip. His first kick is a point and the next a terrible helicopter punt :nope.
http://bigpondvideo.com/AFLTV/90878 (http://bigpondvideo.com/AFLTV/90878)
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The AFL site has a "highlights" video of Meyer against Adelaide in 2007. They didn't do him much a favour in the first half of the clip. His first kick is a point and the next a terrible helicopter punt :nope.
http://bigpondvideo.com/AFLTV/90878 (http://bigpondvideo.com/AFLTV/90878)
However two possessions at least in a single game for Danny in the main side ain't to bad
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The AFL site has a "highlights" video of Meyer against Adelaide in 2007. They didn't do him much a favour in the first half of the clip. His first kick is a point and the next a terrible helicopter punt :nope.
http://bigpondvideo.com/AFLTV/90878 (http://bigpondvideo.com/AFLTV/90878)
However two possessions at least in a single game for Danny in the main side ain't to bad
It they wanted to show Danny's potential off then they should have got highlights of the game he had against Geelong in 2006(?).
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It they wanted to show Danny's potential off then they should have got highlights of the game he had against Geelong in 2006(?).
Is that where he kicked that cracker of a goal from deep in the pocket MT?
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It they wanted to show Danny's potential off then they should have got highlights of the game he had against Geelong in 2006(?).
Is that where he kicked that cracker of a goal from deep in the pocket MT?
Nah he never kicked a goal against the Cats. It was the game down at Kardinia Park that we won in 2006 where Danny played on a HBF and ended up with 19 possies. It doesn't sound that great stat wise but he was really good that day and set up a number of attacks with precise footpassing. Cogs also dominated that day in the guts. He brought his own footy.
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It they wanted to show Danny's potential off then they should have got highlights of the game he had against Geelong in 2006(?).
Is that where he kicked that cracker of a goal from deep in the pocket MT?
That was against North
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That was against North
Thanks RROFO I remembered the goal so clearly because it was a beauty, I remember thinking hey this guy might be all right.
Oh well thats the breaks
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Meyer not drafted and at this stage the Hawks don't have a PSD pick. Looks like it could be game over for him.
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Meyer not drafted and at this stage the Hawks don't have a PSD pick. Looks like it could be game over for him.
Yep unless Danny is rookied by the Hawks it'll be all over for him.
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Meyer not drafted and at this stage the Hawks don't have a PSD pick. Looks like it could be game over for him.
Yep unless Danny is rookied by the Hawks it'll be all over for him.
good bad attitude
but tell me what is the difference between him and Hislop.
Absolutely Sweet stuff both are poo
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MH (hawks forum) are saying Meyer has been given notice that they will pick him up as a rookie unless Port jumps in before them. As Hawthorn has no veterans on their list they can load up with eight rookies of which two can be classed as nominated rookies meaning they are able to play senior footy without someone else going onto the long-term injury list. Apparently Danny along with Stokes will be the two.
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good bad attitude
but tell me what is the difference between him and Hislop.
Absolutely Sweet eff both are poo
How the hell would you know?
Neither Hislop and Thomson are discards, their respective teams didn't want them to go
Were you as critical of getting Morton?
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good bad attitude
but tell me what is the difference between him and Hislop.
Absolutely Sweet eff both are poo
How the hell would you know?
Neither Hislop and Thomson are discards, their respective teams didn't want them to go
Were you as critical of getting Morton?
no Morton as i have said numerous times was a great trade for us.
are you joking neither team wanted them to go. So you think they just waltzed right into the draft without a contract do you?
Both teams were more than happy to let them go and were also very happy to not let them play senior footy all season.
Funny that because both teams struggled this year and have average midfields to boot.
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FACT - Both Thomson & Hislop were the ones who decided to leave their clubs
Port had no choice but to trade Thomson as he would have walked for nothing otherwise
Essendon offered Hislop a contract for next year and he turned it down
Do you need me to paint you a picture?
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Meyer not drafted and at this stage the Hawks don't have a PSD pick. Looks like it could be game over for him.
Yep unless Danny is rookied by the Hawks it'll be all over for him.
good bad attitude
but tell me what is the difference between him and Hislop.
Absolutely Sweet eff both are poo
the clear diff is we've had 4 yrs of Danny and he's produced sweet FA...Hislop is an unknown albeit a prodigious talent....Id rather back Hissy than hope and prey DM could turn the tide on 4yrs of NOTHING :shh
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Hope that the Dawks sign Meyer for 5 years.
Good decision Richmond.
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It seems that any chance of Danny returning to Punt Rd may be just about gone.
Seems that he is now training with Port.
Ex-Bomber Andrew Lee is and former Richmond first-round choice Danny Meyer are both trying their luck with Port Adelaide.
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=70707
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Danny Meyer finds his niche
Andrew Capel | December 18, 2008
A BOLD move from goalkicking forward to rebounding defender has helped salvage the career of Port Adelaide rookie Danny Meyer.
After struggling to make an impact as a small forward in four years with Richmond, Meyer was shuffled back to defence midway through the season and showed enough form with VFL side Coburg to catch the eye of several clubs, including Port and Hawthorn.
His ability to play a Lindsay Gilbee-type role and set up play from half-back didn't save his career at Punt Rd but it earned him a second AFL chance.
The Hawks, with whom Meyer had trained for five weeks before a three-day hitout with Port, had guaranteed to take him in Tuesday's rookie draft before the Power pounced.
"Hawthorn made a commitment to me but Port took me with an earlier pick (No. 20) and I'm absolutely rapt to be back here," Meyer said.
The 22-year-old was a Glenelg junior before being drafted by the Tigers in 2004. Richmond rated Meyer so highly it took him with pick 12 in the national draft, the selection acquired from Geelong in a trade for Brad Ottens.
Meyer played just 17 games, his progress set back by two hip operations to repair cartilage damage.
"The injuries definitely held me back but I'm ready to train hard and show what I can do," Meyer said.
"I don't doubt my ability as a footballer and firmly believe I've got something to offer Port Adelaide."
So does Power recruiting manager Blair Hartley.
"He has that X-factor that we like," Hartley said.
"We can see him playing multiple roles for us, and while training with us he's shown he can use the ball really well off half-back."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24815991-19742,00.html
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good decision but i for the life of me i still dont know why we kept JON and pathetic pettifer and dumped Meyer.
i mean come on.
bad decision.
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good decision but i for the life of me i still dont know why we kept JON and pathetic pettifer and dumped Meyer.
i mean come on.
bad decision.
I agree completely. At least Meyer was showing promise where Petts and JON haven't made any improvement over the last few years.
Stripes
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Rodan Number 2??
Just got off the phone with a close mate i work with from Adelaide.
He told me Meyer was a standout for Port in their practise matches this weekend.
Stay tuned boys my guess is he will be a gem for the Port, mean while we rue the 2 of the most pathetic decision in football and thats keeping pathetic pettifer and JON on our list.
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He told me Meyer was a standout for Port in their practise matches this weekend.
Stay tuned boys my guess is he will be a gem for the Port, mean while we rue the 2 of the most pathetic decision in football and thats keeping pathetic pettifer and JON on our list.
Meh practice game.
Meyer has done nothing yet. We'll see.
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He told me Meyer was a standout for Port in their practise matches this weekend.
Stay tuned boys my guess is he will be a gem for the Port, mean while we rue the 2 of the most pathetic decision in football and thats keeping pathetic pettifer and JON on our list.
Meh practice game.
Meyer has done nothing yet. We'll see.
i think deep down u and a few others on here all know he will smash it for Port in 09.
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i think deep down u and a few others on here all know he will smash it for Port in 09.
He wont be doing anything for Port for the first half of the proper season unless they have a long term injury - he is a rookie and unless something happens he'll be running around in yellow & black............at Glenelg :thumbsup ;D
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Meyer was never given a decent chance at RFC, whilst big names like Deledio and Tambling got to learn the caper of a half back stuff, Danny was moved all over the place, whilst at the same time trying to overcome injuries. In the one game he got of a hbf vs Geelong he was very good indeed, but hey, you cant have a kid be given a chance when you need to play superstar half back flankers like Jordan McMahon now...can you.
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i think deep down u and a few others on here all know he will smash it for Port in 09.
Uh no. I will very surprised if he does.
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i think deep down u and a few others on here all know he will smash it for Port in 09.
He wont be doing anything for Port for the first half of the proper season unless they have a long term injury - he is a rookie and unless something happens he'll be running around in yellow & black............at Glenelg :thumbsup ;D
Just a matter of time WP. Choco will prove it yet again mark my words.
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Meyer was never given a decent chance at RFC, whilst big names like Deledio and Tambling got to learn the caper of a half back stuff, Danny was moved all over the place, whilst at the same time trying to overcome injuries. In the one game he got of a hbf vs Geelong he was very good indeed,
Deledio has been moved all over the place. Pretty sure Tambling didn't play hbf until 2008.
Meyer played a string of games at hbf. Remembering only one pretty much sums up how he was travelling.
I really hoped Danny would become a star. Didn't happen, maybe mostly due to injury.
Good luck to him, he's still got an opportunity to kick on. He's not at Richmond so I don't really care any more.
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We'll probably first see how Meyer goes with Port on Sunday. The Advertiser is pumping him up.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/sport/afl/story/0,26547,25070741-5016212,00.html
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Anybody know where Cass ended up?
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We'll probably first see how Meyer goes with Port on Sunday. The Advertiser is pumping him up.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/sport/afl/story/0,26547,25070741-5016212,00.html
Hope he does really well. It would be great to see him fulfil his potential. No sour grapes from me if he smashes it for Port. Will be great to see a young man do the best for himself and live up to his talent. Will no doubt give a lot of people satisfaction for different reasons. Don't think anyone would get much out of him failing.
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We'll probably first see how Meyer goes with Port on Sunday. The Advertiser is pumping him up.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/sport/afl/story/0,26547,25070741-5016212,00.html
Hope he does really well. It would be great to see him fulfil his potential. No sour grapes from me if he smashes it for Port. Will be great to see a young man do the best for himself and live up to his talent. Will no doubt give a lot of people satisfaction for different reasons. Don't think anyone would get much out of him failing.
i know he will smash it for Port just like Rodan before him.
Choco knows that TW cannot develop kids so any youngster that drops out of RFC, guess what Choco will swoop on them.
no sour grapes thats the biggest loa os poo. Most on here will be hoping he fails because that would ultimately prove that TW and his assistant losers have got NFI
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Choco knows that TW cannot develop kids so any youngster that drops out of RFC, guess what Choco will swoop on them.
Ahh, so that's where they all went.
Choco has done wonders with all the youngsters delisted by Wallace.
There's been Rodan and........umm.........Rodan and........umm.......umm......
How about youngsters Wallace has delisted who have been swooped on by any coaches and been developed by them?
There's been Rodan and........umm.........Rodan and........umm.......umm.......
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Choco knows that TW cannot develop kids
I guess he'll be hoping that McGuane, Moore, Jackson, Thursfield, Raines, White all fall thru too because all would get a game well ahead of DM.
Meyer is miles behind all of those youngsters.
Meyer has done Jack sh it yet. Either at Richmond or at Port yet some rave about him. :-\
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i know he will smash it for Port just like Rodan before him.
Choco knows that TW cannot develop kids so any youngster that drops out of RFC, guess what Choco will swoop on them.
no sour grapes thats the biggest loa os poo. Most on here will be hoping he fails because that would ultimately prove that TW and his assistant losers have got NFI
Please don't use my posts for your own negative agenda. You opinion adds nothing. You logic is simplistic and flawed.
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Choco knows that TW cannot develop kids so any youngster that drops out of RFC, guess what Choco will swoop on them.
Ahh, so that's where they all went.
Choco has done wonders with all the youngsters delisted by Wallace.
There's been Rodan and........umm.........Rodan and........umm.......umm......
How about youngsters Wallace has delisted who have been swooped on by any coaches and been developed by them?
There's been Rodan and........umm.........Rodan and........umm.......umm.......
And lets not get too carried away with Rodan either. He was an average footballer with the capacity to excite every now and then and with upsides and downsides (knee reco, fitness, attitude) in a club that was focusing on building an elite midfield. Rodan himself is the first to admit his attitude wasn't right so collectively it wasn't a bad decision for either club or player and we certainly haven't lost anything by his departure. He is still only in the middle tier of midfielders at any strong club and we have more than enough of those ourselves. I'll bet Wallace does't lose a moments sleep over it and frankly, I think history stamps and vindicates the decision as correct.
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Good luck to rodan for making a career for himself at port. People forget the fact that Rodan out of the richmond midfield meant Foley in. Foley took the opportunity and the rest is history.
As for Meyer, his hips are stuffed. No chance of being a regular AFL footballer, injury will not allow it
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Hope he does really well. It would be great to see him fulfil his potential. No sour grapes from me if he smashes it for Port. Will be great to see a young man do the best for himself and live up to his talent. Will no doubt give a lot of people satisfaction for different reasons. Don't think anyone would get much out of him failing.
Well said and I am of the same view, I wish he could have starred at RFC but circumstances didn't allow that and with his injuries over the years I wish him the best as well.
And lets not get too carried away with Rodan either. He was an average footballer with the capacity to excite every now and then and with upsides and downsides (knee reco, fitness, attitude) in a club that was focusing on building an elite midfield. Rodan himself is the first to admit his attitude wasn't right so collectively it wasn't a bad decision for either club or player and we certainly haven't lost anything by his departure. He is still only in the middle tier of midfielders at any strong club and we have more than enough of those ourselves. I'll bet Wallace does't lose a moments sleep over it and frankly, I think history stamps and vindicates the decision as correct.
Another well made comment, Rodan while a good player is nowhere near elite.
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So what if he's not elite? He has been very good at Port after being delisted - I thought rightly so.
Yep, Foley in has been a win. Not sure which people forget that.
Rodan has still done well at Port.
The only youngster to drop out from Richmond under Wallace and perform elsewhere - my point to Daniel.
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So what if he's not elite? He has been very good at Port after being delisted - I thought rightly so.
Yep, Foley in has been a win. Not sure which people forget that.
Rodan has still done well at Port.
The only youngster to drop out from Richmond under Wallace and perform elsewhere - my point to Daniel.
Fish...what about Ty Zantuck?? An absolute gun! And I hear Tom Roach is ripping it up at North Ballarat:rollin
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And don't forget Collard he is the number 1 donut cooker at Krispy Kreme's
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So what if he's not elite? He has been very good at Port after being delisted - I thought rightly so.
Yep, Foley in has been a win. Not sure which people forget that.
Rodan has still done well at Port.
The only youngster to drop out from Richmond under Wallace and perform elsewhere - my point to Daniel.
My point was that it wasn't Wallace's fault like Daniel was trying to make out. Rodan has made an attitudinal adjustment that has made the biggest difference and whoever he went to was going to be the beneficiary of that adjustment - not Wallace's fault or cause any more than it was William's.
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Meyer is named in the Port squad. He'll be wearing #42.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=72252
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i know he will smash it for Port
Haha, the first thing I did when I saw this post was to save it to replay it again later this year.
Danny Meyer could not get a root in a brothel, let alone kick a goal without sh.itting his pants.
He NOT an AFL footballer, get over it and face the facts, he is RUBBISH!
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Sadly Danny and Richmond didn't work together due to injury and whatever. He may do well at Port if injury-free but obviously Port know there is significant risk too to pick him up as a rookie and not in the draft like they did with Rodan.
Rodan was excellent in his first year at Port when they made the GF but he was very inconsistent last year when Port struggled. Great games mixed with very ordinary and quiet ones as opposition were working him out. Interesting to see how he goes this year and which one is the real Rodan.
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Rodan was excellent in his first year at Port when they made the GF but he was very inconsistent last year when Port struggled. Great games mixed with very ordinary and quiet ones as opposition were working him out. Interesting to see how he goes this year and which one is the real Rodan.
Good post Mt. I reckon Rodan's success is vastly overrated.
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Good post Mt. I reckon Rodan's success is vastly overrated.
He's one of the best ball bouncer's I've ever seen though ;D
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He's one of the best ball bouncer's I've ever seen though ;D
Ironically this is one of his greatest weaknesses as a footballer IMO.
Always felt DRod was more interested in taking a running bounce than he was setting up the play.
Puts his forwards out of position time & time again with that rubbish.
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Meyer getting the pill.
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Meyer getting the pill.
Plus a supergoal and pass to Motlop for another goal. The Swans never care about the NAB Cup so the opposition isn't much chop but still Danny is doing very well playing in what is his natural position as a running defender. God knows why at Coburg he was played across HF. His hip looks fine too.
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Who cares about Meyer, otr than the two things in this game what has he done?? Appart from injury his heart was never in the RFC and that was evident during the minimal amount of game time he had. The super goal he kicked is the first time I have seen him smile.
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Who cares about Meyer, otr than the two things in this game what has he done?? Appart from injury his heart was never in the RFC and that was evident during the minimal amount of game time he had. The super goal he kicked is the first time I have seen him smile.
Well Danny hasn't been sighted in the second half (1 possie) so there shouldn't be Rodan-like headlines tomorrow.
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Who cares about Meyer, otr than the two things in this game what has he done?? Appart from injury his heart was never in the RFC and that was evident during the minimal amount of game time he had. The super goal he kicked is the first time I have seen him smile.
Well Danny hasn't been sighted in the second half (1 possie) so there shouldn't be Rodan-like headlines tomorrow.
The only headlines we will see him in this year will be the injury list.
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Meyer's a little angry ant today. A couple of heavy bumps and SEN saying he may have been reported.
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Meyer's a little angry ant today. A couple of heavy bumps and SEN saying he may have been reported.
:rollin check out game day on afl.com go to the stats section find Danny boy and click on his name.
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Meyer's a little angry ant today. A couple of heavy bumps and SEN saying he may have been reported.
:rollin check out game day on afl.com go to the stats section find Danny boy and click on his name.
They still got him in a Richmond jumper lol.
3 kicks 9 handballs. A sign of the times in the NAB Cup :-X.
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Strange when 3 kicks off a half-back flanker is seen as a "perfect fit" ???
http://afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/72694/default.aspx
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Strange when 3 kicks off a half-back flanker is seen as a "perfect fit" ???
LOL, hopefully he is a perfect fit for a perfectly crap side in 2009
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Meyer got off his report
http://afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/72760/default.aspx