One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on December 16, 2008, 11:00:23 AM
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So out of the entire rookie draft we only take one junior in Gilligan
All the others are older players in Nahas, Gourdis & Browne
Very disappointing
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Yep seems a bit odd, there was so much talk of the quality and depth of this draft but it would appear the RFC didn't rate it that well as the media had hyped it to be.
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Yep seems a bit odd, there was so much talk of the quality and depth of this draft but it would appear the RFC didn't rate it that well as the media had hyped it to be.
The top 2 dozen were meant to be good quality and deep, but it fell away after that
This was highlighted by the fact that the first two rounds of the draft flew by but most clubs took extra time from about pick 30 onwards
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So out of the entire rookie draft we only take one junior in Gilligan
All the others are older players in Nahas, Gourdis & Browne
Very disappointing
Why would you rather a 18 year old than a 20 year old?
Will so many young players on the list - that we started building in 03/04 - now does it really matter if the are bottom age or not?
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So out of the entire rookie draft we only take one junior in Gilligan
All the others are older players in Nahas, Gourdis & Browne
Very disappointing
Why would you rather a 18 year old than a 20 year old?
Will so many young players on the list - that we started building in 03/04 - now does it really matter if the are bottom age or not?
Because most of the players we've drafted this year are all top aged draftees or recycled players in their early 20s.
It's called balance and with the upcoming compromised drafts will have less access to the kids around this age for the next couple of years
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So out of the entire rookie draft we only take one junior in Gilligan
All the others are older players in Nahas, Gourdis & Browne
Very disappointing
Why would you rather a 18 year old than a 20 year old?
Will so many young players on the list - that we started building in 03/04 - now does it really matter if the are bottom age or not?
Because most of the players we've drafted this year are all top aged draftees or recycled players in their early 20s.
It's called balance and with the upcoming compromised drafts will have less access to the kids around this age for the next couple of years
18-21 White 179 21 38 F Edwards 180 20 32 M Deledio 188 21 84 M
Nahas 176 21 0 M Connors 183 20 8 U Oakley-Nicholls 188 21 9 D
Gilligan 177 18 0 F Collins 184 20 0 M Hislop 186 20 7 M
Cotchin 184 18 15 M
18-21 Riewoldt 192 20 26 F Post 195 19 0 D Graham 200 21 2 R
Gourdis 193 20 0 U Putt 202 19 0 RF
Rance 192 19 0 D Vickery 200 18 0 RF
Browne 205 18 0 R
Looks like a fairly even spread to me.
We have so many players in the 22-24 age group that I don't beleive it makes a difference.
* 18 players - 21 and under
* 34 players - 24 and under
We still have 8 teenagers on the list and only 11 players out of 45 are older than 25.
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18-21 is a pretty broad range
It doesn't show the fact that our new additions from this year are all top aged or older
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So out of the entire rookie draft we only take one junior in Gilligan
All the others are older players in Nahas, Gourdis & Browne
Very disappointing
Brownes an 18 uear old, Goudis is 19 (I think) and I bet you Sheedy had something to do with Nahas, looks like his type of project.
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Surprized we didn't recruit more Aboriginal boys with the new centre opening up at Punt Road in the future.
Stripes
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Any one know why we didnt use our another rookie pick, thought we were going to use them all.
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Any one know why we didnt use our another rookie pick, thought we were going to use them all.
Did we raise the 2nd half of the rookie donation idea we had going?
Passing on our last rookie pick will futher convince clubs that opposed our Polak rookie application that their suspicions of us trying to move our last rookie pick forward 70 spots were right.
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We have the equal smallest list with the Dogs, Crows and Port.
2009 AFL LISTS – CLUB TOTALS
Adelaide – 45 players (38 primary, 2 veterans and 5 rookies)
Brisbane Lions – 46 players (38 primary, 2 veterans and 6 rookies)
Carlton – 46 players (38 primary and 8 rookies)
Collingwood – 47 players (38 primary, 2 veterans and 7 rookies)
Essendon – 46 players (38 primary, 2 veterans and 6 rookies)
Fremantle – 46 players (38 primary and 8 rookies)
Geelong – 47 players (38 primary, 2 veterans and 7 rookies)
Hawthorn – 47 players (38 primary and 9 rookies)
Melbourne – 46 players (38 primary, 2 veterans and 6 rookies)
North Melbourne – 46 players (38 primary, 2 veterans and 6 rookies)
Port Adelaide – 45 players (38* primary, 2 veterans and 5 rookies)
Richmond – 45 players (38 primary, 2 veterans and 5 rookies)
St Kilda – 48 players (38 primary, 1 veteran and 9 rookies)
Sydney Swans – 46 players (38 primary, 2 veterans and 6 rookies)
West Coast – 47 players (38 primary, 2 veteran and 7 rookies)
Western Bulldogs – 45 players (38 primary, 1 veteran and 6 rookies)
http://afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=70974
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We have the equal smallest list with the Dogs, Crows and Port.
2009 AFL LISTS – CLUB TOTALS
Adelaide – 45 players (38 primary, 2 veterans and 5 rookies)
Brisbane Lions – 46 players (38 primary, 2 veterans and 6 rookies)
Carlton – 46 players (38 primary and 8 rookies)
Collingwood – 47 players (38 primary, 2 veterans and 7 rookies)
Essendon – 46 players (38 primary, 2 veterans and 6 rookies)
Fremantle – 46 players (38 primary and 8 rookies)
Geelong – 47 players (38 primary, 2 veterans and 7 rookies)
Hawthorn – 47 players (38 primary and 9 rookies)
Melbourne – 46 players (38 primary, 2 veterans and 6 rookies)
North Melbourne – 46 players (38 primary, 2 veterans and 6 rookies)
Port Adelaide – 45 players (38* primary, 2 veterans and 5 rookies)
Richmond – 45 players (38 primary, 2 veterans and 5 rookies)
St Kilda – 48 players (38 primary, 1 veteran and 9 rookies)
Sydney Swans – 46 players (38 primary, 2 veterans and 6 rookies)
West Coast – 47 players (38 primary, 2 veteran and 7 rookies)
Western Bulldogs – 45 players (38 primary, 1 veteran and 6 rookies)
http://afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=70974
Doesn't make sense to me, surely there were a couple of Indigenous boys worth a punt as my brother mentioned previously - we have a centre dedicated to indigenous development?
Lots of kids out there but who knows what the thinking was. We did OK in the drafts overall IMO
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Doesn't make sense to me, surely there were a couple of Indigenous boys worth a punt as my brother mentioned previously - we have a centre dedicated to indigenous development?
Lots of kids out there but who knows what the thinking was. We did OK in the drafts overall IMO
I don't know but I've got a strong suspicion it has to do with the salary cap. I reckon if we didn't take Cousins then we would have topped up on rookies.
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Except rookies don't count in TPP
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Except rookies don't count in TPP
Thanks Infamy, I stand corrected. It may still well have been a financial decision though, especially in the current economic climate and without a confirmed co-major sponsor yet.
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Except rookies don't count in TPP
Thanks Infamy, I stand corrected. It may still well have been a financial decision though, especially in the current economic climate and without a confirmed co-major sponsor yet.
Agreed, but I think the decision was more one that there was simply no one they thought was worth spending the money on
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Maybe we may try again next year putting Polak on the rookie list with the spare rookie spot there waiting. He'll be out of contract so the AFL won't be able to use that "he's contracted" excuse and it WILL be exactly like Rama's situation.
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It's not good economics to pick a player for the heck of it with almost zip prospect of making seniors , I even have massive ? over Nahas...He's tiny, possibly smallest player I've ever seen, surely Klemke would be a better senior prospect...In any case ea player would cost 50K + if the pool starts to thin, PASS is a worthy option ;)
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It's not good economics to pick a player for the heck of it with almost zip prospect of making seniors , I even have massive ? over Nahas...He's tiny, possibly smallest player I've ever seen, surely Klemke would be a better senior prospect...In any case ea player would cost 50K + if the pool starts to thin, PASS is a worthy option ;)
Whether Nahas makes it is yet to be seen (yep he's small as is Gilligan) but at 21 y.o. he'll probably be the one to be promoted when Polak is eventually put on the LTIL.
The Club obviously didn't rate Klemke as we bypassed him numerous times. He wasn't picked up until pick 50? in the rookie draft.
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I forgot to post this last week after the AGM but Craig Cameron was asked why we passed on this pick and he said that we were of the belief that the talent pool had dried up
:thumbsupWhether Nahas makes it is yet to be seen (yep he's small as is Gilligan) but at 21 y.o. he'll probably be the one to be promoted when Polak is eventually put on the LTIL.
Disagree - I think Silvestor wil get promoted if he shows enough in the pre-season comp. He is rated very highly by the club
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I forgot to post this last week after the AGM but Craig Cameron was asked why we passed on this pick and he said that we were of the belief that the talent pool had dried up
:thumbsupWhether Nahas makes it is yet to be seen (yep he's small as is Gilligan) but at 21 y.o. he'll probably be the one to be promoted when Polak is eventually put on the LTIL.
Disagree - I think Silvestor wil get promoted if he shows enough in the pre-season comp. He is rated very highly by the club
Ta WP.
How is the Big Cat going to get into the side though ahead of Moore, Thursty, McGuane, Rance and possibly Post?
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How is the Big Cat going to get into the side though ahead of Moore, Thursty, McGuane, Rance and possibly Post?
I would think he would be ahead of Post at the moment. I see him as insurance if one of the first 3 you mentioned is injured or horribly out of form... I dont think it is reasonable to expect Rance to carry the load of one of the 3 get injured
I think he deserves a chance. 2009 will be his last year as a rookie, he had one opportunity in the 2008 NAB cup and granted he struggled but he isn't the first bloke to have done that.
But simply based on his entire 2008 VFL season where he again got team of the year honours I reckon we need to bite the bullet and see if he up to AFL standard
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How is the Big Cat going to get into the side though ahead of Moore, Thursty, McGuane, Rance and possibly Post?
I would think he would be ahead of Post at the moment. I see him as insurance if one of the first 3 you mentioned is injured or horribly out of form... I dont think it is reasonable to expect Rance to carry the load of one of the 3 get injured
I think he deserves a chance. 2009 will be his last year as a rookie, he had one opportunity in the 2008 NAB cup and granted he struggled but he isn't the first bloke to have done that.
But simply based on his entire 2008 VFL season where he again got team of the year honours I reckon we need to bite the bullet and see if he up to AFL standard
You can throw Schultz into the mix as a potential key back. I think the Big Cat will struggle, dare I say it - he might be muttering "Sufferin Succotash" under his breath every Thursday night for another year.......