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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on March 03, 2009, 04:02:07 PM
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Axel is up next. State player in 2008. What are your expectations of Foley for this year?
Career so far:
Games Disposals Marks Tackles G.B 1st disp. Clearances In50 1%ers
2005: 6 9.2 0.8 2.8 1.0
2006: 21 15.9 2.6 3.3 3.2
2007: 22 24.2 2.1 4.1 6.6
2008: 21 22.2 2.3 3.6 8.5 5.4 4.4 2.5 3.9
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1582
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2004082
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Not a lot between the 2007 and 2008 years.
This is one player who attracted a lot of opposition focus IMO due to the fact he was our first young attacking midfielders to break out. With Lids, Cotch, Cuz and White all on the scene, Axel will benefit big time from reduced focus and should be able to reproduce his 2007 form.
Certainly looks the goods in the couple of games he's played this season.
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Future best and fairest winner of the club :thumbsup
Was unlucky in 07.
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Would think he really needs to work out how to shake a tag- struggled with that alot in 2008
Apart that a full compliment of games and perhaps a few more goals
:gotigers
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Would think he really needs to work out how to shake a tag- struggled with that alot in 2008
Apart that a full compliment of games and perhaps a few more goals
:gotigers
Another reason Cuz will be so good for us, Axel can watch and learn and at the same time the opposition can't tag everyone.
On axel, yep he struggled big time last half of the year, good learning curve and expect him to figure it out and balance the season.
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Just like last year, he will have a couple of down games when he is the prime focus of the oppositions #1 tagger, but they will be less frequent this year as there are too many others to worry about. Last year you could tell who got the tagger between Foley & Lids as there would often be a complete reversal of stats of the two week by week.
I think he will thrive this year, he appears on track so far to do so
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Nathan Rocks.The greatest discovery the club has made in the last decade.I just expect Axel to be awesome again in 2009
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Nathan Rocks.The greatest discovery the club has made in the last decade.I just expect Axel to be awesome again in 2009
A timely reminder that while we have some draftees turn out poorly, there are others which we have hit the jackpot on and Axel is one of those.
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Nathan Rocks.The greatest discovery the club has made in the last decade.I just expect Axel to be awesome again in 2009
A timely reminder that while we have some draftees turn out poorly, there are others which we have hit the jackpot on and Axel is one of those.
Yes, very interesting that those who just love to slam the recruiting failures make no attempt to balance their argument with recognition of the recruiting successes. To think it is possible to get it right every time is one of football's great follies.
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Not a lot between the 2007 and 2008 years.
This is one player who attracted a lot of opposition focus IMO due to the fact he was our first young attacking midfielders to break out. With Lids, Cotch, Cuz and White all on the scene, Axel will benefit big time from reduced focus and should be able to reproduce his 2007 form.
Certainly looks the goods in the couple of games he's played this season.
I thought he tailed off badly towards the end of '08. Like all of us here I'd love to see him reproduce his '07 form.
It's not just the emergence of those young mids that will help him either. It was interesting to see when they put Thompson in the middle against the pies, he is there to protect our little gun, don't worry about that.
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Nathan Rocks.The greatest discovery the club has made in the last decade.I just expect Axel to be awesome again in 2009
A timely reminder that while we have some draftees turn out poorly, there are others which we have hit the jackpot on and Axel is one of those.
Yes, very interesting that those who just love to slam the recruiting failures make no attempt to balance their argument with recognition of the recruiting successes. To think it is possible to get it right every time is one of football's great follies.
Agree Smokey, but when you have 5 picks in the top 20 you'd want at least 3 of them to turn out for you!
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Agree Smokey, but when you have 5 picks in the top 20 you'd want at least 3 of them to turn out for you!
At the risk of restarting WW3 which has already probably been done to death here on the 2004 draft, we have
Lids Big tick No brainer
Meyer Big Cross
Three in question with Tambling, Patto and Polo. Of course peoples views vary and people would have some or all written off, regardless coming into their fifth season surely either this year or next the decision will be need to be made on their future.
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Agree Smokey, but when you have 5 picks in the top 20 you'd want at least 3 of them to turn out for you!
At the risk of restarting WW3 which has already probably been done to death here on the 2004 draft, we have
Lids Big tick No brainer
Meyer Big Cross
Three in question with Tambling, Patto and Polo. Of course peoples views vary and people would have some or all written off, regardless coming into their fifth season surely either this year or next the decision will be need to be made on their future.
Foley was picked up in the rookie draft of 2004.
McGuane also was selected in this draft
Adam Thomson effectively replaces Meyer as our other Top 20 pick in 04.
I reckon in the fullness of time, the 04 draft will work out okay. :santa
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Foley was actually taken in the 2003 rookie draft
He was picked in the same rookie draft as Aaron Davey, possibly even the pick after him as we were interested in picking Davey also. I think we got the better player after all.
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Not that it really matters Infamy but Foley was pick number 4 in the 2004 rookie draft and was elevated during the 2005 season.
Kelvin Moore was rookie listed in 2003 along with Adam Pickering and Matthew Shir.
2005 was Will Thursfield so the Tigers have a decent record from a modest number of picks due to cost cutting although we have dropped off he past 3 years with Jake King and Gus Graham the only players still on our list.
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I'm sorry, but NO he wasn't
Thursfied was our first pick in 2004, so we couldn't have taken Foley in that draft with Pick 4 as our next pick was 17.
Foley was taken in 2003 just after Aaron Davey
2004 Lids, Tambo, Meyer, Patto, Polo, McGuane, Limbach with Thursfield as a rookie
2005 JON, Hughes, Casserly & White in the PSD with rookies Graham, Humm & Howat
2006 Riewoldt, Edwards, Connors, Collins & Peterson with rookies Clingan & King,
2007 Cotchin, Rance, Putt, Gourdis in the PSD with rookies Collard, Silvester, Cartledge & Howat again
2008 Vickery, Post, Hislop, Cousins in the PSD with rookies Nahas, Gourdis, Browne & Gilligan
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As per Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Foley_(footballer)
Nathan "Mick" Foley is an Australian rules football player. He plays as a midfielder for the Richmond Football Club in the Australian Football League.
Foley was drafted by Richmond using pick 3 in the 2003 AFL Rookie Draft, from the Geelong Falcons. He had a debut to remember as the Tigers were thumped by Melbourne in a game which saw Tiger star Nathan Brown break his leg under the impact of Demon defender Matthew Whelan.
Sorry about the reminder of Browny's leg
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Perhaps the confusion lies in the AFL's naming convention for the PSD & Rookie drafts.
Despite the fact they are held in the same year of the season just ending, they call it the rookie draft for the following season.
For example the rookie draft just gone was held in December 2008 but was called the 2009 Rookie Draft, I assume because you are picking rookies for the 2009 season. However the main draft is also picking players for the following season so it makes no sense really. I think in the past the PSD was a bit later on being held right before the season started.
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I'm sorry, but NO he wasn't
Thursfied was our first pick in 2004, so we couldn't have taken Foley in that draft with Pick 4 as our next pick was 17.
Foley was taken in 2003 just after Aaron Davey
2004 Lids, Tambo, Meyer, Patto, Polo, McGuane, Limbach with Thursfield as a rookie
2005 JON, Hughes, Casserly & White in the PSD with rookies Graham, Humm & Howat
2006 Riewoldt, Edwards, Connors, Collins & Peterson with rookies Clingan & King,
2007 Cotchin, Rance, Putt, Gourdis in the PSD with rookies Collard, Silvester, Cartledge & Howat again
2008 Vickery, Post, Hislop, Cousins in the PSD with rookies Nahas, Gourdis, Browne & Gilligan
My apologies, you are right!!!
For some reason as you say, the AFL season guide records the rookie draft in the following year so it actually has Foley as being picked up in the 2004 rookies draft and Thursty in 2005. ???
Reviewing Foley, what is even more bizarre is that he wasn't elevated in his first year at Richmond, he was a retained rookie in 2005.
And just 5 seasons later, he is probably our most damaging midfielder in full flight.
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I think it was more a list management thing that he wasn't elevated after one year, plus while he was showing very promising signs at Coburg, it was only glimpses and he still had a fair few things to work on like his kicks could be a bit up and under.
The one thing I always noticed about him watching Foley play for Coburg in his first year was that he always looked like he had all the time in the world to get rid of the ball. Even under heavy opposition pressure and needing a hurried disposal he still looked composed. It seems that this attribute transfers well to stepping up a level where the pace is faster. This same attribute is why I have hopes for Andrew Collins to make it as well. Different type of player though, but hopefully he can dominate at Coburg this year and break into the seniors for a few games.
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Gun. Love Axe.
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Agree Smokey, but when you have 5 picks in the top 20 you'd want at least 3 of them to turn out for you!
At the risk of restarting WW3 which has already probably been done to death here on the 2004 draft, we have
Lids Big tick No brainer
Meyer Big Cross
Three in question with Tambling, Patto and Polo. Of course peoples views vary and people would have some or all written off, regardless coming into their fifth season surely either this year or next the decision will be need to be made on their future.
+ Morton & Thomson (trade)
+ Thursty & McGaune (late picks)
not too bad
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2005 JON, Hughes, Casserly & White in the PSD with rookies Graham, Humm & Howat
2005 is the year that shaping like it could cost Terry his job.