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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 07, 2009, 12:47:24 PM
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The VFL season starts this weekend.
VFL Round 1
Coburg vs Frankston
Sunday, April 12
Reserves 11.10am
Seniors 2.00pm
Home Game @ ABD Group Stadium
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VFL PREVIEW 2009!
Paul Amy
Inside Football
COBURG TIGERS
Coach: Jade Rawlings (second year).
Captain: Nick Carnell.
Last season: 12 wins, nine losses.
In: Tim Clarke (Hawthorn), Ryan Allan (Morwell), Ben Considine (Collingwood VFL), Hamish Dahl (Golden Square), Matt Deledio (Kyabram), Jacob Hislop (Burnie), Mathew Jones (Golden Square), James Saville (Collingwood VFL).
Out: Paul Shelton, Fort Caruso, Tas Clingan, Cath Corr, Joe Gazzo, Sam Robertson, Shaun Huy, Paul Currie, Tommy Simpson, Michael Farrelly, Nick Lynch, Josh Riddle.
Verdict: Grand finalists under Andy Collins in 2007, the Tigers slipped to an elimination-final loss to Frankston. They were disappointed, thinking they were better than that. Their reserves, untouchable during the season, also bombed in the finals and most of the players have moved on. Only new captain Nick Carnell, Nat Caruso and Andrew Horne remain from the VFL listers who appeared in the 2007 decider; this is now Rawlings’ squad, rather than a Collins construction. Paul Shelton, a mighty player, will be missed scrapping around the packs, but there are a few exciting inclusions, notably ex-Hawk Tim Clarke. Ryan Allan, a well-built forward from Morwell, shapes as a smoky from the sticks. The Tigers will look for young bucks Nick Liddle, Christian McErlain, Ben Clifton, Nic Catterpan and James Keogh to kick on and help the club holds its ground.
http://insidefootballonline.com/amy.html
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Coburg Tigers
B: Rance Silvester Thursfield
HB: Edwards Caruso Keogh
C: Thomson A. Horne McMahon
HF: Liddle Allan Carnell
F: Nahas Schulz Oakley-Nicholls
R: Pattison Coughlan Clarke
Int: Morgan, Cattapan, Collins, Polak, Morris, Groves, Jordon, Graham, Connors, Post, Carrick, Browne
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So if Tambling for Nahas is the only change for Richmond then Coburg is left with a pretty ordinary spine. Nat Caruso at CHB ??? and no obvious choice for FF unless Polly plays there :-\. I guess Post could fill in but he's more a mobile running tall in his first year.
B: Connors Silvester Thursfield
HB: Collins Caruso Keogh
C: Thomson A. Horne McMahon
HF: Liddle Allan Carnell
F: Nahas Post Oakley-Nicholls
R: Pattison Coughlan Clarke
Int (from): Morgan, Cattapan, Polak, Morris, Groves, Jordon, Carrick, Browne
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Reminder: Only 12 RFC guys can play this week for Coburg seniors
With Frankston being stand alone then the 12/10 rule applies
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Reminder: Only 12 RFC guys can play this week for Coburg seniors
With Frankston being stand alone then the 12/10 rule applies
Cheers WP I forgot that. So Polly and perhaps a rookie? to miss although a bit harsh on Browne to go from seniors to VFL to VFL ressies in two weeks :-\.
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Reminder: Only 12 RFC guys can play this week for Coburg seniors
With Frankston being stand alone then the 12/10 rule applies
Cheers WP I forgot that. So Polly and perhaps a rookie? to miss although a bit harsh on Browne to go from seniors to VFL to VFL ressies in two weeks :-\.
I wouldn't be surprised if Connors doesn't play seniors, seeing he only played his first match back last week
Polak played ressies last week so I think it's likely he will again
Would also argue Browne would have and needs to play as they need a proper ruckman. Don't think Patto has the fitness to ruck all day. Although, the Burgers in these games have thrown Nat Caruso in the ruck at times and he has done really well :clapping
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Actually thinking about this some more :P
I wonder if we (Richmond) will keep one of the emergencies out of the game on Sunday in case Tambling doesn't come up or just to play some "ducks & drakes" :-\ ;D
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Actually thinking about this some more :P
I wonder if we (Richmond) will keep one of the emergencies out of the game on Sunday in case Tambling doesn't come up or just to play some "ducks & drakes" :-\ ;D
That would make sense too. So Nahas won't play for Coburg you'd think if that was the case.
I also left Gus in the Burger line-up before when he'll be playing for Richmond so that makes it 13 RFC Tigers. So Polly to the Coburg ressies which allows Browne to remain in the Coburg seniors :thumbsup.
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That would make sense too. So Nahas won't play for Coburg you'd think if that was the case.
That's because Tambling won't play. Can't be in rehab all week and then be good to play on the weekend. I reckon they have no intention of him playing.
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http://www.livevfl.com.au/_/HOME.html (http://www.livevfl.com.au/_/HOME.html)
This weeks game Coburg v Frankston :thumbsup
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This weeks game Coburg v Frankston :thumbsup
Good stuff CUB :thumbsup
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WP says Hughes, Vickery, Post, Gilligan, Putt and Gourdis playing in the ressies.
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Hughes? :-[
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Cleve is still coming back from injury.
Why Post is playing Coburg ressies while Polly is playing seniors I've got no idea.
Tigers won the ressies by 9pts.
WP said Cleve and Goo kicked one each in the last quarter.
They're playing Al Jolson's California over the PA ;D
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Collins goal. JON a couple of touches
Coburg 6
Frankston 0
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Allan goal
12 - 0
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Pinged for a throw in the backline. I wish these commentators would say names.
12 - 6
Browne off. Connors on.
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Nahas flying snap = goal. A couple of possies already. Polly tackle lead to the goal.
Coburg tackling is ferocious
Carrick gets another on the run.
24 - 7
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They gave me heart failure when they said Cogs might have a problem but he's okay. Just having a rest along with Polly.
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End to end transfer of the footy and it ends up with Patto. Just inside 50. Point.
25 - 8
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Liddle goal.
31 - 8
Polak on the ground after a shepherd they are saying :help and just got to his knees in the hands of the trainer. Now up on his feet and walking holding his head.
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Polly sitting on the bench and the doc and trainer are examining him. Looking at his head just on the edge of his helmet.
32 - 9
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Polly copped a knock to the jaw. So we're resting him and will reassess at 1/4 time. Frankston have re-started the better they're since the break for Polly going off.
32 - 15
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Thomson to Collo with the flight of the ball. Goal
38 - 15
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Very humid conditions. Coburg rotating 3-4 players at a time.
Coburg gives away 50m after the mark.
38 - 21
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Carrick long inside 50. Off hands and Nahas gets a free from 40m out. Goal
44 - 21
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Quarter time. 35 mins
Coburg 7.2-44
Frankston 3.3-21
Goals: Collins 2, Nahas 2, Allan, Carrick, Liddle
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David Bourke said Polly is okay.
vfl live has just gone down :(.
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From WP
10 min Q2
Coburg 8.6-54
Frankston 3.5-23
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WP said Polly is back on. Good news :)
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Connors and Cogs have a goal each this quarter.
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Coburg 9.6-60
Franger 7.6-48
Dolphins have made a charge in the last 10 mins. 2 goals from frees.
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They said the Burgers intensity and run has dropped off. Jordie and Nahas were "on fire" early but have gone quiet in the last 10 mins which has coincided with Coburg's drop off.
60 - 49
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Rhett Jordan has a shot after a siren. Doesn't make the distance.
Half time.
Coburg 7.2 9.6-60
Frankston 3.3 7.7-49
Goals: Collins 2, Nahas 2, Allan, Carrick, Liddle, Connors, Cogs
Burgers lost their run. Look flat. Lost the corridor. Physicality of Frankston started to show in last 15 mins. Dolphins kicked the last 4 goals.
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Ryan O'Connor on VFLlive at half-time
Turned over 50% of Coburg's list. Expecting the greater depth in Richmond's list to help.
As the top 2nd tier club of the N/NW region you need two VFL quality grounds. So City Oval (ABD stadium) and Craigieburn will be both used. Sorting it out with AFL Victoria on the split.
RFC invaluable to Coburg. Coburg will give Richmond their unwavering support.
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Carrick to Collins 40m out. Goal
66 - 49
6 mins gone.
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Carnell to Connors (free). Advantage to Collo who gets his 4th.
72 - 49
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Burgers get it forward again but Frankston clear and run it up the other end
Clarke get it back
78 - 55
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Thomson point
79 - 61
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Nahas pulled off the ball after disposal. 50m penalty new rule. Goal
85 - 61
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Horne poster. Good build up from back in the defence. 20mins. Coburg with 3 goal breeze according to the commentators.
86 - 61
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JON finger tipper mark over to Clarke to Patto to Nahas 30m out on the lead. Goal
92 - 67
JON 100% efficiency.
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Very open game this quarter. Entertaining. Players tired. Commentators praising Thursty, JON and Mcmahon. Latter two always go back into the corridor.
3/4 time.
Coburg 7.2 9.6 14.8-92
Frankston 3.3 7.7 11.7-73
Goals: Collins 4, Nahas 4, Allan, Carrick, Liddle, Connors, Cogs, Clarke
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VFLlive down again :(
Commentators said Mcmahon is above this level. JON's skill level has been top notch. Thursty good in defence. Cogs has drifted out of the game. Collins and Nahas dangerous up forward.
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Gourdis kicked five in the reserves and named in the best's.
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From WP
Coburg 17.9-111
Frankston 14.7-91
Polly and Connors one goal each this qtr
20 mins gone
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Final Score: :gotigers
Coburg 7.2 9.6 14.8 18.11-119
Frankston 3.3 7.7 11.7 16.8-104
Goals: Collins 4, Nahas 4, Connors 2, Allan, Carrick, Liddle, Cogs, Clarke, Polak, ?, ?
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2009 VFL Reserves
Coburg Tigers 3.5 10.5 12.8 15.12 (102)
Frankston 6.3 8.5 9.8 14.9 (93)
GOALS:
Coburg Tigers: Gourdis 5 Hughes 3 Clifton 2 Hislop 2 Vickery Deledio Kelly
Frankston: Crowe 3 Hicks 2 Clark 2 Limbach 2 Barnes 2 Lancaster 2 Comben
BEST:
Coburg Tigers: Morgan Clifton Gourdis Cattapan Deledio Vickery
Frankston: Crowe Lancaster Hobbs Lombardozzi Hicks Comben
REPORTED PLAYERS:
Coburg Tigers: Nil
Frankston: Nil
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Good to see Junior Lids in the bests. :thumbsup
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Good to see Junior Lids in the bests. :thumbsup
is that junior lids and junior hislop both playing for coburg??
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Good to see Junior Lids in the bests. :thumbsup
is that junior lids and junior hislop both playing for coburg??
Yep both in the ressies.
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2009 VFL Seniors
Coburg Tigers 7.2 9.6 14.8 18.11 (119)
Frankston 3.3 7.7 11.7 16.8 (104)
GOALS:
Coburg Tigers: Nahas 5 Collins 4 Liddle 2 Connors 2 Clarke Coughlan Allan Polak Carrick
Frankston: Murray 4 Baguley 2 Dore 2 Purves 2 Dickson 2 Marigliani Magner Berry Keely
BEST:
Coburg Tigers: McMahon Horne Clarke Carrick Liddle Collins
Frankston: Berry Baguley Murray Dore Ongarello Dickson
REPORTED PLAYERS:
Coburg Tigers: Nil
Frankston: Nil
https://reg.sportingpulse.com/olr_v3/rpt_progressive.cgi?aID=8&pg=1&a=MR_
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A good solid win first up. From the commentary on vfllive it sounded as though Collins, Jordie, JON, Nahas and Thursty were the best RFC players. It'll be interesting to hear what WP and others who watched the game live thought.
How did Cogs, Thomson and Connors go?
Also Browne and Patto?
Is Polly alright?
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BEST:
Coburg Tigers: McMahon Horne Clarke Carrick Liddle Collins
I obviously was at a different game ;D
I wouldn't put McMahon in the best as he plays too loose..... his disposal was good most of the time but a couple of turnovers were shockers. To me a player like McMahon (100 odd AFL games etc) should stand out in this competition
I've said it before and I will kee p saying it ...
It isn't about the quantity of possessions but the qulaity of them.
I thought JON was in the best again. He is playing that hit up forward role very very well. And if I had to chose between Jordie & JON at the minute for a senior game becuae you have to pick one of them, I'd take JON in second. Why? Because he will chase, he will tackle he puts pressure on his opponent when he hasn't got the ball
How did Cogs, Thomson and Connors go?
Also Browne and Patto?
Is Polly alright?
Polly is fine - stirring final qtr from the bloke
Cogs - was solid without being spectacular. He got tagged a fair bit But another good dispaly
Connors - his field kicking was ordinary at times
BrownE - like Cogs solid
Patto - in and out of the game. Needs more matches
Thompson - see Connors re filed kicking.... I now know why he handballs so much
Collins - very very good.. Much improved effort on the last week :clapping
Nahas - all class at VFL level....
Silvestor - best stuff in the VFL - seriously deserves a chance at AFL level
Thursfield - much better game this week - more intensity shown
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Andy Collins to make his debut against the Dees. :thumbsup
Cogs to come in too? I would.
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Polly is fine - stirring final qtr from the bloke
wp, do you think Polly is working toward senior footy, any chance in 2-3 weeks?
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Polly is fine - stirring final qtr from the bloke
Cogs - was solid without being spectacular. He got tagged a fair bit But another good dispaly
Connors - his field kicking was ordinary at times
BrownE - like Cogs solid
Patto - in and out of the game. Needs more matches
Thompson - see Connors re filed kicking.... I now know why he handballs so much
Collins - very very good.. Much improved effort on the last week :clapping
Nahas - all class at VFL level....
Silvestor - best stuff in the VFL - seriously deserves a chance at AFL level
Thursfield - much better game this week - more intensity shown
Cheers WP :cheers.
Thomson had the same record at Port. A clearance winner but handballed twice as much than he kicked to compensate for his ordinary foot disposal.
Just one last question - did Collo play mainly as a forward or did he also play in the midfield?
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Coughlan hoping for a Richmond recall
Brent Diamond | April 12, 2009
RICHMOND midfielder Mark Coughlan is confident he can get back to his blistering best after impressing for the second successive week in the Coburg Tigers' 15-point win over Frankston at ABD Group Stadium yesterday.
And Tigers defender Graham Polak sent shivers through the Tigers army after copping a heavy knock in a collision with two Dolphin opponents in the first quarter of the match. Polak, who wears a helmet, spent the second quarter on the sidelines before returning to the field after half-time.
Coughlan, who has not played a senior game since round 12, 2006, because of injuries, added a swag of 25 disposals to go with his 41 the previous week. "I think I can get back to (where I was)," Coughlan, 26, said. "I won't know until I really try. It's been three years and the game's really changed."
Jordan McMahon is also in line for a senior recall after a dominant 41-possession game in a running role from defence.
Pocket rocket Robin Nahas booted five goals in the 18.11 (119) to 16.8 (104) win.
The Tigers led at every change, taking a 19-point lead into three-quarter-time before resisting a Frankston charge, with Nahas kicking the sealer from the boundary.
Adam Pattison and former Hawk Tim Clarke were also in the best for the Tigers
Dolphins coach Shannon Grant praised the performance of first-gamer Mark Baguley, Justin Berry, Brett Dore and Aaron Murray up forward.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/coughlan-hoping-for-a-richmond-recall/2009/04/12/1239474757791.html
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Id be bringing in Collins and Thomson next week. Collins deserves his chance and whilst Thomsons not a good kick atleast he understands what he can and cant do. Thats why handballs are more numerous than kicks. His tackling and hard ball gets add value - so he needs to come in as well.
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wp, do you think Polly is working toward senior footy, any chance in 2-3 weeks?
Yes I have no doubt he is working towards playing AFL again but.....
No I don't think he is a chance for a recall in the short term
I reckon Polly is doing incredibly well playing footy fullstop
I would love to see him play AFL again sometime but there is a massive gap between AFL & VFL... and I wouldn't want to see him under that much pressure just at the minute.
I'll be honest it was heart in the mouth stuff yesterday when he went down.
Just one last question - did Collo play mainly as a forward or did he also play in the midfield?
Bit of both. Started on the HFF but spent a lot of time coming of the wing with some time starting in the centre
Id be bringing in Collins and Thomson next week. Collins deserves his chance and whilst Thomsons not a good kick atleast he understands what he can and cant do. Thats why handballs are more numerous than kicks. His tackling and hard ball gets add value - so he needs to come in as well.
Spot on with thompson Ramps...
He'd have to be a show in the next few weeks, he's tough at the contest and can win the ball, doesn't get push aside easily either
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Let's see how the side goes today against the Dogs before we decide to suggest any changes
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Just one last question - did Collo play mainly as a forward or did he also play in the midfield?
Bit of both. Started on the HFF but spent a lot of time coming of the wing with some time starting in the centre
Cheers WP. Good to hear he moved around as he would need to at AFL level. If anyone has an ordinary one today then you'd expect Collo to make his debut next week.
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I reckon Polly is doing incredibly well playing footy fullstop
I'll be honest it was heart in the mouth stuff yesterday when he went down.
Bumped into him on the stairs after the game. Very solemn about today's game but pulled up fine from yesterday.
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Coburg holds off Frankston
coburgtigers.com.au
On a beautiful autumn day at ABD Group Stadium, a new look Coburg side eventually defeated a defiant Frankston by 15 points. Coburg lead at every change, however poor kicking in the second quarter meant that the Tigers were not able to seal the game early on.
Frankston, who this year are sporting a new coach in ex-North Melbourne player Shannon Grant, were a much more aggressive package than last year and from the first bounce to the last bounce, targeted the bodies of the Coburg playing list.
In a scare for all Richmond, Coburg and football fans alike, Graham Polak was knocked out after being slung late in a tackle. The courageous defender remained motionless on the ground for a few minutes, before getting to his feet with the assistance of doctor and trainers. The plucky Polak, who is still recovering from a serious accident last year, remained on the bench for the rest of the first quarter, however, returned in the second and played out the remainder of the match.
Jordan McMahon was easily the Tigers best player for the game, superbly playing off the back line shutting down several inside 50 attempts made by the Dolphins. Richmond Tigers rookie and ex-Port Melbourne player Robin Nahas was electrifying at times and bobbed-up and kicked five sneaky goals. Andrew Collins also chipped-in with four goals for the game, with both players certainly placing pressure on Richmond selectors. Ex-Hawthorn and new assistant coach Tim Clarke made a solid start to his new career at Coburg, while improved Tiger Glen Carrick also earned his keep throughout the day.
Frankston was probably never good enough to win on the day, however, had their errant kicking been more on target the result may have been very different. Standout players for Frankston were Aaron Murray, who booted four goals and worked tirelessly all day. Justin Berry was fantastic through the middle and Mark Baguley also made solid contributions throughout the four quarters.
A tough start to the coaching career of Shannon Grant but for Tigers fans a reassurance that the clean-out that occurred over summer may just bear fruits come this September.
Coburg Tigers 7.2 9.6 14.8 18.11 (119)
Frankston 3.3 7.7 11.7 16.8 (104)
GOALS:
Coburg Tigers: Nahas 5 Collins 4 Liddle 2 Connors 2 Clarke Coughlan Allan Polak Carrick
Frankston: Murray 4 Baguley 2 Dore 2 Purves 2 Dickson 2 Marigliani Magner Berry Keely
BEST:
Coburg Tigers: McMahon Horne Clarke Carrick Liddle Collins
Frankston: Berry Baguley Murray Dore Ongarello Dickson
http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info.cgi?client=1-118-10471-0-0&sID=56260&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=8853231§ionID=56260
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Thomson can be our version of D. Cross??
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Did anybody see Rhett Jordon?
:thumbsup
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Thomson can be our version of D. Cross??
He'll have to learn how to kick first before being mentioned in the same ballpark.
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Thomson can be our version of D. Cross??
He'll have to learn how to kick first before being mentioned in the same ballpark.
Given Cross always handballs instead of kicking the ball I think that was his point
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Did anybody see Rhett Jordon?
:thumbsup
yeah he played 1965
I was a bit disappointed in his game. Seemed to be off the pace just a tad
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Did anybody see Rhett Jordon?
:thumbsup
yeah he played 1965
I was a bit disappointed in his game. Seemed to be off the pace just a tad
Thanks MT.
Interesting that Rhett was one of the few that survived the purge at Coburg this year.
Lots didn't.
A lesson for Richmond maybe?
'65
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Thanks MT.
Interesting that Rhett was one of the few that survived the purge at Coburg this year.
Lots didn't.
A lesson for Richmond maybe?
'65
I think you meant me ;D
Actually he is a very solid kid, certainly bulked up from last year
Certainly some upside there
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Thomson can be our version of D. Cross??
He'll have to learn how to kick first before being mentioned in the same ballpark.
Given Cross always handballs instead of kicking the ball I think that was his point
That is true, but Cross is also a damaging kick when he does throw it on the boot imo it's just he is even better finding space for his team mates with handballs. Thomson, not so much.
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Snippets from Rawlings report in EOTT:
Collins - 11 marks, involved in 8 goals (4 to himself)
Cogs - 25 possies, 7 marks. Influence down.
McMahon - 40 possies off HB
JON - 8 marks, involved in 5 goals. Needs to kick goals himself and tackle more.
Patto - 22 hitouts, 5 tackles
Thomo - 5 clearances, 4 tackles but made too many errors
Thursty - 6 tackles, 2-3 good spoils, 8 handball receives
Full report at:
http://210.50.4.102/rfc/