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Title: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: one-eyed on April 13, 2009, 10:31:54 PM
Fire away ..........
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: camboon on April 13, 2009, 10:38:35 PM
MMM, not in the best mindset

But - In: Collins and Cogs in

Out: Edwards and ?????
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Moi on April 13, 2009, 10:40:14 PM
A senior player must be one of them I think to send a message
How about Terry's love child, Browny?
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 13, 2009, 10:43:55 PM
In: Collins, Cogs, Thompson, patto

Out: edwards, King, Schulz, Bowden
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 13, 2009, 10:47:51 PM
A senior player must be one of them I think to send a message
How about Terry's love child, Browny?


Won't be Brown but yes he is in the gun or he should be over the next few weeks.
Another crap game next week where he waits for the ball and his one hand trying the  finessed thing rather than the simple thing should ensure he plays for Coburg especially if we lose to the Dees.

IN  Collins Coughlan Thompson Nahas

OUT Tambling Edwards Schulz King

Furthermore Angus Graham should be given first ruck duties just to insult Simmonds and get him to feel some hurt and get some intencity into his game. He has been shocking in my opinion this year. Bring Simmo on at the 20 minute mark against Melbourne hopefully that will be the antidote to fire up the snake man.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: tiga on April 13, 2009, 10:48:08 PM
In: Collins, Cogs, Thompson, patto

Out: edwards, King, Schulz, Bowden
WP...Sounds good to me!  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 13, 2009, 10:54:35 PM
In: Collins, Cogs, Thompson, patto

Out: edwards, King, Schulz, Bowden


We'll be topheavy WP Simmo Angus and Patto.
Just an opinion.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 13, 2009, 10:58:31 PM
In: Collins, Cogs, Thompson, patto

Out: edwards, King, Schulz, Bowden


We'll be topheavy WP Simmo Angus and Patto.
Just an opinion.

i'd play Patto as a forward not ruckman

Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Jackstar is back on April 13, 2009, 11:22:41 PM
Out, Bowden, King, Tambling,Schulz(never to be played again ) Edwards,
In, anyone but Jordon McMahon. :banghead
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 13, 2009, 11:23:58 PM

In, anyone but Jordon McMahon. :banghead

On that we agree

Who said it couldn't happen  ;D
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Moi on April 13, 2009, 11:26:24 PM

In, anyone but Jordon McMahon. :banghead

On that we agree

Who said it couldn't happen  ;D

Jackstar and WP  :cuddles

 :rollin
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Jackstar is back on April 13, 2009, 11:33:12 PM
Jackson has to go as well
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 13, 2009, 11:36:35 PM
i couldnt care less aboutn this game

we have proved enough already in the 3 rounds already played.

we are useless and another mid table finish.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: torch on April 14, 2009, 12:39:25 AM
Out:

Schulz, Hislop, Edwards, King

In:

Post, Pattison, Collins, Coughlan
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Babsky on April 14, 2009, 12:44:28 AM
Put it squarely on the players - have them pick the team and see what the result is.  Send Terry to the solarium for the week and give Kingy a go.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: mat073 on April 14, 2009, 01:15:20 AM
So many players dont deserve a game at the moment.I can think of two senior players whose names start with the letter "B"- both deserve to be dropped.Simmonds has been awful this year.I agree with Tuckerbag-demote him to second ruck.

Out : King Edwards Bowden Hislop
In : Cogs Thomson Nahas Conners

Very Lucky to still remain in team :Brown,Tambling Schulz

Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Infamy on April 14, 2009, 07:50:39 AM
In: Collins, Cogs, Thompson, patto

Out: edwards, King, Schulz, Bowden


We'll be topheavy WP Simmo Angus and Patto.
Just an opinion.
I agree with those changes and would also play Patto forward
I do think that McMahon will come back in, but I hope they make him back up his performance at VFL level
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: TigerTime on April 14, 2009, 08:13:11 AM
out ; jackson king white bowden simmonds schulz
in : patto browne post cogs collins jon
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: big tone on April 14, 2009, 08:22:22 AM
People without Tamblings name in the 'outs' must not have watched yesterdays game OR the last 4 years because if anyone is to be dropped it is him!!!!!!! We were actually booing him yesterday! No more chances for mine!!!
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: TigerTime on April 14, 2009, 08:27:22 AM
Tambling must play and play on the hbf.
Are you listening Terry
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 14, 2009, 08:31:06 AM
People without Tamblings name in the 'outs' must not have watched yesterdays game OR the last 4 years because if anyone is to be dropped it is him!!!!!!! We were actually booing him yesterday! No more chances for mine!!!

It was so loud that sound when Tambling touched the ball. I heard it only 4 or 5 times.

He has gotta go and i aint talking back to Coburb im talking back to darwin or Freo. They would love another dud to their list.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: big tone on April 14, 2009, 08:33:21 AM
Tambling is in the same ball park as JON.
Two early wasted draft picks.  :clapping
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: wayne on April 14, 2009, 08:46:45 AM
i couldnt care less aboutn this game

we have proved enough already in the 3 rounds already played.

we are useless and another mid table finish.

Spot on.

I've seen enough, a win against Melbourne doesn't mean a thing.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 14, 2009, 11:26:53 AM
i couldnt care less aboutn this game

we have proved enough already in the 3 rounds already played.

we are useless and another mid table finish.

Spot on.

I've seen enough, a win against Melbourne doesn't mean a thing.


for the first time in my whole life wayne i am actually going into this game not giving a toss if we win.

some may say im happy to tank but its more than that.

i actually think we need to go backwards to go forward. With an ageing list and the youngsters we have simply not up to it a win against the dees will prove one thing NOTHING!!

If i saw a win against one of Blues, Dogs or cats then i would be looking forward to this game but to see the same skill level as i saw when Wallace arrived is a massive kick in the guts.

Development is the word that comes to mind. How have you got so many players who CANT put on any size is beyond me.

Tuck, Foley, Jack, Cleve, JON, Tambling, Jackson, Edwards have a look at yourselves you bunch of soft co.cks.

Anyone seen Beams or Mitch Robinson lately??

Both ready to play AFL footy while these pretenders show up every week only to collect their pay cheque.


Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: wayne on April 14, 2009, 11:37:46 AM
Development is the word that comes to mind. How have you got so many players who CANT put on any size is beyond me.

Didn't Edwards get into some sort of trouble for gaining weight too quickly?? Does anyone remember this?

Anyone seen Beams or Mitch Robinson lately??

Add Dangerfield to that list as well. Built like a sh*thouse.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: DallasCrane on April 14, 2009, 12:04:36 PM
Troy Simmonds has got to be dropped. I don't care if there is no back up ruck ready or not. He is running around like he has had a lobotomy.
If we have to go in with Tuck in the ruck then so be it, at least Tuck attempts to win the hit out, Simmonds just goes up early and forgets about the ball.
We can't afford to have both of them in the ruck as has happened a lot this season. It just doesn't work. Problem is Tuck wins a few hit outs but there is no one there to collect it because he is our best clearance player. I don't blame Tuck for this one bit. He is just trying to get something happening out of the ruck because he can see what all of us can see: there is absolutely NOTHING happening in our ruck this year.  :banghead
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: mutes on April 14, 2009, 12:23:36 PM


IN  Collins Coughlan Thompson Nahas

OUT Tambling Edwards Schulz King

Furthermore Angus Graham should be given first ruck duties just to insult Simmonds and get him to feel some hurt and get some intencity into his game. He has been shocking in my opinion this year. Bring Simmo on at the 20 minute mark against Melbourne hopefully that will be the antidote to fire up the snake man.
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Agree with all of the above. Not sure about Hislop actually, but give a couple more games. Connors also must be close.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Tigermonk on April 14, 2009, 12:32:10 PM
Troy Simmonds has got to be dropped. I don't care if there is no back up ruck ready or not. He is running around like he has had a lobotomy.
If we have to go in with Tuck in the ruck then so be it, at least Tuck attempts to win the hit out, Simmonds just goes up early and forgets about the ball.
We can't afford to have both of them in the ruck as has happened a lot this season. It just doesn't work. Problem is Tuck wins a few hit outs but there is no one there to collect it because he is our best clearance player. I don't blame Tuck for this one bit. He is just trying to get something happening out of the ruck because he can see what all of us can see: there is absolutely NOTHING happening in our ruck this year.  :banghead


agreed Simmonds,  + 12 others l could list as not at AFL standard
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Beren on April 14, 2009, 12:33:23 PM
We were actually booing him yesterday! No more chances for mine!!!

Lovely! ::)
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: big tone on April 14, 2009, 01:29:38 PM
Development is the word that comes to mind. How have you got so many players who CANT put on any size is beyond me.

Didn't Edwards get into some sort of trouble for gaining weight too quickly?? Does anyone remember this?

Anyone seen Beams or Mitch Robinson lately??

Add Dangerfield to that list as well. Built like a sh*thouse.
May as well chuck in D Rich. Knows what the inside of a gym looks like.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 14, 2009, 01:34:47 PM
Development is the word that comes to mind. How have you got so many players who CANT put on any size is beyond me.

Didn't Edwards get into some sort of trouble for gaining weight too quickly?? Does anyone remember this?

Anyone seen Beams or Mitch Robinson lately??

Add Dangerfield to that list as well. Built like a sh*thouse.
May as well chuck in D Rich. Knows what the inside of a gym looks like.

gee how good is he going to be??

and how big is he so early in his career.

now tell me again peoples why have our players got arms smaller than my mrs who weighs 52 kg's.

we are an embrassment to the league
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: TigerTime on April 14, 2009, 04:36:39 PM
all you peoples bagging and booing players like tambling when they get the ball are not true supporters and can GO AND GET stuffed
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: GOOHUC on April 14, 2009, 05:37:23 PM
Outs:

King (never to be seen again in a Richmond guernsey)

Edwards (make him earn his spot by getting in Coburgs best 3-4 weeks running)

Tambling (See Edwards)

Graham (see Edwards/Tambling - he at least needs to dominate or at a minimum, break even at Coburg for 3-4 weeks running)

Schulz (non existant)

Ins:

Nahas - Good replacement for Edwards...give him minimum 3-4 weeks in the 1st's to find his feet, unless he has absolute shockers.  Is young and hungry enough to give us something

Collins - has done enough pre-season and at Coburg on Sunday to ensure he gets his long overdue 1st game.  Like Nahas, give him 3-4 weeks to show what he's got

Pattison - good game for Coburg IMO and is a big upgrade on Graham.

Cogs - had a ripper 2nd qtr for Coburg...it's now or never for him.

Conners - may need one more at Coburg but has the foot skills, brains and some class that we're crying out for...

On notice should be:

Hislop (maybe bring in Thompson for him, however I wasn't convinced with his game at Coburg last Sunday).  Hislop was good vs Geelong so give him another chance.

Brown - good one week, shocking the next...not fussed whether he stays or goes to be honest

Bowden...

Jackson - doesn't have a brain for this game, nor does he have the skills.  As my brother said, "he should stick to marathon running and rowing"....once Cuz, Cotch, Cogs and Conners are right, this guy will be goooooooooooooooooooooone.

Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 14, 2009, 05:54:04 PM
all you peoples bagging and booing players like tambling when they get the ball are not true supporters and can GO AND GET stuffed

I live in Australia not North Korea I'm entitled to an opinion.
I am a Richmond member I'm entitled to an opinion
Did I mention I live in Australia and a democracy just like you do TT and we are all entitled to an opinion.


Well here's mine since I have to read through yours

Tambling is crap. Tambling should at the best be put up for trade at the end of the seaon.
If his mind is not right and the club has been aware of it for a while well they are just as culpible as the player himself who volunteers his services week in and week out.
At best in my opinion Tambling should be back in Darwin playing for the Melville Island Sea Snakes. Unfortunantely we need to look at the player and Richmond is obviously not conjucive for his nurturement and development. If my opinion makes me less of a Richmond supporter than the bloke next to me then why bother TT. :whistle
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: mightytiges on April 14, 2009, 11:10:51 PM
Out:  King, Tambling, Edwards, Bowden, Schulz

In:  Collins, Cogs, Nahas, Thomson, Patto


What I think will happen though is Jordie will be one of the ins and it would be surprising to see the axe swing with 5 changes. Playing Patto forward isn't much of solution either for mine but Sarge has done nothing in 3 weeks despite given the opportunity at FF with Cleve and Patto injured.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: TigerTime on April 15, 2009, 09:56:20 AM
Tuckerbox

would yoy berate and bag your family in public? i doubt it, i know i wouldnt, privately face to face yes, publically no!

the rfc is like family and its players are like our brothers, booing any player , tambling or richo - does not matter, it should not happen.

family are supposed to stick together and get through the down times with unity, not publically bagging your own.

if your that kind of person , good on you!   :clapping
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Con65 on April 15, 2009, 12:23:13 PM
Out:  King, Tambling, Edwards, Bowden, Schulz

In:  Collins, Cogs, Nahas, Thomson, Patto


What I think will happen though is Jordie will be one of the ins and it would be surprising to see the axe swing with 5 changes. Playing Patto forward isn't much of solution either for mine but Sarge has done nothing in 3 weeks despite given the opportunity at FF with Cleve and Patto injured.

MT, I like your thinking...I agree that Sarge has not done much except for that sensational mark against Geelong...His kicking for goal has let him down a bit this year...Do you think we can play both Hislop and Thomo in the same team...?  Also do you think that JON might come into calculations this week?

Also I dont know whether they will play Simmo Graham and Patto in the same team...unless you leave Patto at FF...Collins Cogs Nahas and Jordie have put their hands up this week...Bling will stay in the team...whilst his position will get looked at at the selection table...he was one of our better players in the carlton debale...but King Edwards Bowden Shulz and perhaps Graham might be dropped...IMHO
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Chuck17 on April 15, 2009, 02:16:03 PM
Tambling is crap. Tambling should at the best be put up for trade at the end of the seaon.

I would imagine we are in a bit of a bind there Tucker, on current form he wouldnt be worth a fart in a paperbag.

If he starts hitting his straps and performing then he will more than likely stay with the RFC based on his potential.  Of course your argument would be trade him while he has currency and that would be a fair point.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: big tone on April 15, 2009, 05:30:46 PM
Tuckerbox

would yoy berate and bag your family in public? i doubt it, i know i wouldnt, privately face to face yes, publically no!

the rfc is like family and its players are like our brothers, booing any player , tambling or richo - does not matter, it should not happen.

family are supposed to stick together and get through the down times with unity, not publically bagging your own.

if your that kind of person , good on you!   :clapping

TT,'
The tiger "family" was not 'Booing' Tambling on Monday they gave him a 'bronx cheer' when he finally got the ball. A fair bit of difference if you ask me.
Even TW said (on the couch) that it was fair enough!
Toughen up princess!
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: TigerTime on April 15, 2009, 05:41:57 PM
why werent othr players given the bronx cheer, deledio only had 2 more touches than tambling
white stuffed up every 2nd disposal he had along with foley
riewoldt hardly touched , and with all his class morton didnt do much at all
tambling = easy scapegoat target
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Go Richo 12 on April 15, 2009, 05:59:40 PM
why werent othr players given the bronx cheer, deledio only had 2 more touches than tambling
white stuffed up every 2nd disposal he had along with foley
riewoldt hardly touched , and with all his class morton didnt do much at all
tambling = easy scapegoat target
I agree with you fully here. However, and really hate to bring it up again, but i think it is the whole Tambling/Franklin thing that haunts the Blinger!
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: big tone on April 15, 2009, 06:16:17 PM
why werent othr players given the bronx cheer, deledio only had 2 more touches than tambling
white stuffed up every 2nd disposal he had along with foley
riewoldt hardly touched , and with all his class morton didnt do much at all
tambling = easy scapegoat target
The Facts are TT that he was totally shyt on the weekend- not a scapegoat just what happened! Forget about stats for a minute.
Don't get me wrong, i like Tambling but to even put him in the same breath as Lids is just not right. I hope you can see that.
Yes or no answer TT- are you Tambling?   :lol
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 15, 2009, 06:24:24 PM
Tuckerbox

would yoy berate and bag your family in public? i doubt it, i know i wouldnt, privately face to face yes, publically no!

the rfc is like family and its players are like our brothers, booing any player , tambling or richo - does not matter, it should not happen.

family are supposed to stick together and get through the down times with unity, not publically bagging your own.

if your that kind of person , good on you!   :clapping

You need to stop taking things personally being personal to others and look at the facts.
Just take a step back. Try it, it will change your life. If you can't because your not that kind of person, good on you! :clapping
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: torch on April 15, 2009, 11:39:34 PM
please play Mark Coughlan and Andrew Collins  :pray

doesn't matter about Coughlan's past, he needs to 'get matches under his belt'  :)
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Chuck17 on April 15, 2009, 11:56:02 PM
I am not too sure what good the changes that will be made will make.

Another poster said a while ago that our depth was bit of a myth in that we had depth but it was the depth of a number of players at the same level (or worse  :o). The two exceptions to this who aren't in the side at the moment are Cotch and Cuz neither of which are ready.

I think McMahon will come in to deliver the ball out of the backline, even though he is not ideal he is probably the best option we have.  We shouldn't have to tag anyone in the Dees so King will probably go.

Either Edwards and/or Tambling should probably go as well for Cogs and/or Collins.  I would try to squeeze Nahas in as well, maybe for Bowden.





Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 16, 2009, 08:43:08 AM
I dont understand why we cant trial some new players like Post.

Throw a Cogs in there as well for good measure.

lets see who can play and lets see who cannot.

Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: wayne on April 16, 2009, 09:02:48 AM
I dont understand why we cant trial some new players like Post.


Yeah.

Schulz isn't doing anything, Hughes is playing Coburg ressies, give Post a go at full forward.

If he doesn't get a touch, then he's done just as much as Schulz has in the last 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Chuck17 on April 16, 2009, 09:11:18 AM
I dont understand why we cant trial some new players like Post.


It may be because the RFC has staff watching our draftees day in and day out and they are in a better position to know if a player is ready for AFL level.

But on the other hand what could go wrong if he is given a shot, it is not as if the young player is going to be bagged for being a crap player, it is not as if our recruiters will cop a bagging with comparisons being drawn back to the Fiora drafting, its not as if TW is going to get caned for having an ineffective game plan.

Absolutely nothing to lose it is not as if our supporters are armchair experts ready to drop the boot into the RFC at any provocation is there.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 16, 2009, 10:59:25 AM
I dont understand why we cant trial some new players like Post.


Yeah.

Schulz isn't doing anything, Hughes is playing Coburg ressies, give Post a go at full forward.

If he doesn't get a touch, then he's done just as much as Schulz has in the last 3 weeks.

Geez i really believe Schulz was worth something a few years ago, especially with the Crows and Buldogs lacking in size but now you wouldn't be able to get a pick inside 100 for his services.

i doubt there is a guy on our list that has gone backwards more than Schulz.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 16, 2009, 01:33:31 PM
I dont understand why we cant trial some new players like Post.

perhaps because Post isnt ready for AFL footy.

Why throw him to the wolves if he is not ready and then have him face the bagging from his own supporters

Can you and others guarantee that you wont bag him if he either fails to get a touch or every one of his kicks is a turn over or bag the club for another failed draft choice?

Could you?



Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: one-eyed on April 16, 2009, 01:59:36 PM
RICHMOND
Total number of matches missed by listed players in 2009: 16
Average number of listed players missing per round in 2009: 5

In the mix: Changes will occur after three straight losses. Mark Coughlan, who has not played since round 12, 2006, is edging closer to a recall, Jordan McMahon is in line for a berth and ex-Power midfielder Adam Thomson could also be called up. Kayne Pettifer will play for the Coburg seconds this weekend – his first since missing the last six matches of 2008.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/75057/default.aspx
Title: Re: Changes for next week against the Dees?
Post by: peggles on April 16, 2009, 04:03:11 PM
I dont understand why we cant trial some new players like Post.


It may be because the RFC has staff watching our draftees day in and day out and they are in a better position to know if a player is ready for AFL level.

But on the other hand what could go wrong if he is given a shot, it is not as if the young player is going to be bagged for being a crap player, it is not as if our recruiters will cop a bagging with comparisons being drawn back to the Fiora drafting, its not as if TW is going to get caned for having an ineffective game plan.

Absolutely nothing to lose it is not as if our supporters are armchair experts ready to drop the boot into the RFC at any provocation is there.

most likely cos wallace is looking after his own back, trying to scrape some wins at the expense of development of our kids...it's sad really.