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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: wayne on April 19, 2009, 02:53:01 PM
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Looks as though the players might want Terry gone....
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3rd quarter....38 points down.If Wallace goes I hope those cancerous sooky players who are trying to run the team follow him out the door.
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Bye Bye Terry. Cheque will be in the mail. Shut the door on the way out would you?
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Tick, Tick, Tick....
BOOOOMMMBBBBB!!!!!!!!!!!!
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If Chocco Royal has got any self respect he should follow his master out the door too.
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If half the team has any respect they should drop themselves. P~ poor is all I have to say.
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The simple fact is that this list is probably one of the worst RFC has assembled over the last 20 years. We lack strength both physically and mentally, skill (big time) and generally across the board we have no class. No coach in the short term will obtain improved results to TW, the difference being is that they can claim no responsibility for the personnel available. One thing that is obvious at the moment is that the team cannot maintain a defensive zone for 4 quarters and don't have the skill to break one down, very tough year ahead (understatement).
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I think that now is the time where there has to be a full look into what the hell is going on.
This was a game we should have walked away with, but no cigar.
We are the easy beats once again. And I hate saying it but it is true.
Put all player on a performance based pay and I will bet they play better.
We have too many that think they are good. But in reality they would not make it into another team.
There has to be massive cuts this week, and not in player or coaches, but in paychecks.
We are the laughing stock of the AFL and we deserve it, completely.
No excuses we are the weakest team in the AFL today.
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What amazes me why is Brian Royal our forward coach :banghead
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The simple fact is that this list is probably one of the worst RFC has assembled over the last 20 years. We lack strength both physically and mentally, skill (big time) and generally across the board we have no class. No coach in the short term will obtain improved results to TW, the difference being is that they can claim no responsibility for the personnel available. One thing that is obvious at the moment is that the team cannot maintain a defensive zone for 4 quarters and don't have the skill to break one down, very tough year ahead (understatement).
SHOCK HORROR.
some with half a brain told you all this list was not good enough but you have people like WP and Brackets and co who praise Wallace and defend fools like Mcmahon and co.
We have officially a worse list than under Spud. Thanks Terry you fool
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The simple fact is that this list is probably one of the worst RFC has assembled over the last 20 years. We lack strength both physically and mentally, skill (big time) and generally across the board we have no class. No coach in the short term will obtain improved results to TW, the difference being is that they can claim no responsibility for the personnel available. One thing that is obvious at the moment is that the team cannot maintain a defensive zone for 4 quarters and don't have the skill to break one down, very tough year ahead (understatement).
SHOCK HORROR.
some with half a brain told you all this list was not good enough but you have people like WP and Brackets and co who praise Wallace and defend fools like Mcmahon and co.
We have officially a worse list than under Spud. Thanks Terry you fool
Daniel, I have to disagree with something.
Our list isnt as bad as you say.
problem is the game plan. We play too many behind the ball, kick sideways and way too short and play slow transition.
All of this is a recipe for DISASTER, as we have seen in the first four rounds and will continue to see if Wallace isnt given the flick on Monday
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What amazes me why is Brian Royal our forward coach :banghead
I think the reason given was that he wanted a change lol
Terry looking after his mates ahead of the team..
I know people dont rate Rawlings but with him as forward coach last year our forward line
worked a lot better..
In fact it was imo the main reason we improved last year..
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Terry is not looking after his mates its himself.
Selfish
Self Centred
Lying
Kneiving
and will try to tell you everything his fine.
Face facts and go please Terry.
Five years down the drain and the time we have invested won't ever come back.
Please go and go now.
We can't go on like this.
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problem is the game plan.
Spud had a better game plan.
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I agree with Jackstar is back about our list.
I think we have a decent list. Just need someone to get them to all click at the same time. And then we might win a few.
I did read where someone said to drop Richo to make the other play a little harder.
Then someone said this would stop his chances at the Brownlow.
I think at the moment he hasn't go even half a chace at it. As far as I can see you have to be in the winning team to gather more votes.
And this is just what we aint doing. So as good as he is he is being hamstrung by his own team mates.
I will not be picking us for a while now is what I will tell you all now. I would pick Freeo if we were playing them next week.
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problem is the game plan.
Spud had a better game plan.
Tell you something smarty, spent 2 years there with Spud, at least his game plan was simple. Bascially kick it to key targets in the corridor Made finals 2001 didnt we :banghead :banghead
As I have said 100 times and will say again, Wallace will never ever take Richmond to finals.
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This is possibly the least inspired I have ever felt as a Richmond supporter. Two reasons
1. We are a basket case again.
2. There is not even the chance of closure (Terry being asked to leave) in the near future because the board wont want to pay him out. We are most likely stuck with this for 18 more games.
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problem is the game plan.
Spud had a better game plan.
Tell you something smarty, spent 2 years there with Spud, at least his game plan was simple. Bascially kick it to key targets in the corridor Made finals 2001 didnt we :banghead :banghead
As I have said 100 times and will say again, Wallace will never ever take Richmond to finals.
Game plans mean stuff all if your players are not playing for you and don't have a go. And they had no pride in themselves to even try and disguise they couldn't give a stuff. No doubt when Wallace is gone they'll have a go. Well, that's what we want them to do. But our new generation of kids coming through have now worked out that this is the way that you get what you want and no doubt will do the same to the next coach, and the next one until we have the same stuff happening again and again and again.
Congratulations to all involved, you're a credit to the club :nope
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The game plan is the number one thing.
Too kick the ball 15 metres sideways by slow transition is a disgrace.( as we have done repeatedly over the past 4 weeks)
if things dont change, we wont win a game in the next 5 weeks. FACT.
Last week we had 75% of possesions in the back half, would think today was the same.
Joel Bowden had 40 possesions, NOT ONE INSIDE 50 , why ?? as most were sideways ineffective :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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The game plan is the number one thing.
Too kick the ball 15 metres sideways by slow transition is a disgrace.( as we have done repeatedly over the past 4 weeks)
if things dont change, we wont win a game in the next 5 weeks. FACT.
Last week we had 75% of possesions in the back half, would think today was the same.
Joel Bowden had 40 possesions, NOT ONE INSIDE 50 , why ?? as most were sideways ineffective :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
We won't win another game because the players are definitely not playing for the coach. You know that and I know that. For what reason I don't know. I'm sure Wallace didn't tell them to go out and play the way you described, but they did. You don't come on here winking your bloody head off if there wasn't something happening behind the scenes.
If Wallace is not wanted, you're right, get rid of him. But we won't expect nothing but success, becasue as you said, dear, it's not the players ::)
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Can tell you the players are playing as they are TOLD.
Slow transition with players behind the ball, with lateral movement by short kicks.
Shocking game plan as we all have seen.
Melbourne today tried to use the corridor at all costs, big difference in game plan.
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Can tell you the players are playing as they are TOLD.
Slow transition with players behind the ball, with lateral movement by short kicks.
Shocking game plan as we all have seen.
Melbourne today tried to use the corridor at all costs, big difference in game plan.
And poor skills, and lazy pathetic efforts
If they miraculously return with a new coach, you can make you're own judgments ::)
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Can tell you the players are playing as they are TOLD.
Slow transition with players behind the ball, with lateral movement by short kicks.
Shocking game plan as we all have seen.
Melbourne today tried to use the corridor at all costs, big difference in game plan.
And poor skills, and lazy pathetic efforts
If they miraculously return with a new coach, you can make you're own judgments ::)
Yep, with a proper forward structure, fast transition play( Play on at all costs) and get players forward of the ball, it can change overnight
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The game plan is the number one thing.
Too kick the ball 15 metres sideways by slow transition is a disgrace.( as we have done repeatedly over the past 4 weeks)
if things dont change, we wont win a game in the next 5 weeks. FACT.
Last week we had 75% of possesions in the back half, would think today was the same.
Joel Bowden had 40 possesions, NOT ONE INSIDE 50 , why ?? as most were sideways ineffective :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Clearly the reporters only look at the stats to award the best. Bowden didn't have an opponent all day, he was treated with no respect by the opposition because he does no damage with his disposals. Of all things I'm disappointed in today I cannot believe Terry resorted back to a game plan of Bowden loose in defence and Richo out of the goal square. The game plan that's got us no where for 8 years now.
Unless Wallace has changed his gameplan in the last 12 months, he is not asking the players to pass 15m to the player next to them. It's a sign of a team with no confidence.
What worries me more is that our midfield has no cohesion at all yet Wayne Campbell is meant to be the coach in waiting and he is our midfield coach. If Wallace goes at the end of the year, I hope they ALL go, including Wayne.
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The game plan is the number one thing.
Too kick the ball 15 metres sideways by slow transition is a disgrace.( as we have done repeatedly over the past 4 weeks)
if things dont change, we wont win a game in the next 5 weeks. FACT.
Last week we had 75% of possesions in the back half, would think today was the same.
Joel Bowden had 40 possesions, NOT ONE INSIDE 50 , why ?? as most were sideways ineffective :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Clearly the reporters only look at the stats to award the best. Bowden didn't have an opponent all day, he was treated with no respect by the opposition because he does no damage with his disposals. Of all things I'm disappointed in today I cannot believe Terry resorted back to a game plan of Bowden loose in defence and Richo out of the goal square. The game plan that's got us no where for 8 years now.
Unless Wallace has changed his gameplan in the last 12 months, he is not asking the players to pass 15m to the player next to them. It's a sign of a team with no confidence.
What worries me more is that our midfield has no cohesion at all yet Wayne Campbell is meant to be the coach in waiting and he is our midfield coach. If Wallace goes at the end of the year, I hope they ALL go, including Wayne.
he has changed his game plan. Its all about numbers at the ball and then to rebound by possesions, thus our over use of handball and short kicks
Every sides ways kick makes it easier for the opposition to push back,
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Wayne Campbell is a knieving little runt.
Him in a position of power at Richmond ala as he was as captain with a dead man walking caoch in Spud in 03 second half and 04 would be catastrophic.
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The game plan is the number one thing.
Too kick the ball 15 metres sideways by slow transition is a disgrace.( as we have done repeatedly over the past 4 weeks)
if things dont change, we wont win a game in the next 5 weeks. FACT.
Last week we had 75% of possesions in the back half, would think today was the same.
Joel Bowden had 40 possesions, NOT ONE INSIDE 50 , why ?? as most were sideways ineffective :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Clearly the reporters only look at the stats to award the best. Bowden didn't have an opponent all day, he was treated with no respect by the opposition because he does no damage with his disposals. Of all things I'm disappointed in today I cannot believe Terry resorted back to a game plan of Bowden loose in defence and Richo out of the goal square. The game plan that's got us no where for 8 years now.
Unless Wallace has changed his gameplan in the last 12 months, he is not asking the players to pass 15m to the player next to them. It's a sign of a team with no confidence.
What worries me more is that our midfield has no cohesion at all yet Wayne Campbell is meant to be the coach in waiting and he is our midfield coach. If Wallace goes at the end of the year, I hope they ALL go, including Wayne.
he has changed his game plan. Its all about numbers at the ball and then to rebound by possesions, thus our over use of handball and short kicks
Every sides ways kick makes it easier for the opposition to push back,
15 handballs that go within 3 metres cant believe supporters cant say this game plan is NOT WORKING.
its not rocket science its just plain and simply Fuqd up. what happened after 3 quarter time???
we went long and direct and look what happened.
He is a lost cause. He lost me the day he walked into the club and recruited all those C grad footballers.
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Can tell you the players are playing as they are TOLD.
Slow transition with players behind the ball, with lateral movement by short kicks.
Shocking game plan as we all have seen.
Melbourne today tried to use the corridor at all costs, big difference in game plan.
So the players are being told to miss targets, not tackle, not run, not back up a mate, handball or kick to a player under pressure, get brushed aside like a fly and miss easy set shots at goal! :gobdrop
Definitely the coach has to go then ::)
The game plan might be shocking but our skill level is even more so :banghead
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Can tell you the players are playing as they are TOLD.
Slow transition with players behind the ball, with lateral movement by short kicks.
Shocking game plan as we all have seen.
Melbourne today tried to use the corridor at all costs, big difference in game plan.
So the players are being told to miss targets, not tackle, not run, not back up a mate, handball or kick to a player under pressure, get brushed aside like a fly and miss easy set shots at goal! :gobdrop
Definitely the coach has to go then ::)
The game plan might be shocking but our skill level is even more so :banghead
Spot on, 2JD :thumbsup
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The reason they miss targets as they try and do the impossible, short kick to teamates that are covered or are in traffic.
All clubs miss easy shots, the opposition hit the post 4 times in a row today
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This is true 2JD but why is it happening.
Are they too busy thinking about something else to be able to take a loose ball 1st grab?
Why does say a Shane Edwards look so confused this year?
Coaching isn't just game plan, it's about getting the best out of people. TW and his merry gum chewers aren't doing that.
Jackstar is right, our players are better than that, we need someone who can get the best out of them.
I don't want a coach who is mates with the players. When Nathan Buckley coaches there will be players that hate his guts. He will strive for excellence, if he doesn't get it, then you are on the outer, simple as that.
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VERY SIMPLE.
Wallace goes ASAP.
As a club we can salvage something out of year, anything is possible.
If Wallet stays, he will ruin what ever players that are there ,that havent already been ruined.
Tell me something all you geniuses ?
Why does one the best kicks playing the game kick the ball 20 metres??
I am talking about Lids
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its not rocket science its just plain and simply Fuqd up. what happened after 3 quarter time???
we went long and direct and look what happened.
And that was because????????
Wonder who told 'em to da that?
Are you seriously telling me that Simmonds handballing 20 metres to the opposition is the game plan
VERY SIMPLE.
Wallace goes ASAP.
As a club we can salvage something out of year, anything is possible.
Yes that would good because it would appease the likes of you and that's what the club should do ::)
Tell me something all you geniuses ?
Why does one the best kicks playing the game kick the ball 20 metres??
I am talking about Lids
I don't know ... simplest way to find out is ask Lids....
Jack I am not going to get in to another "discussion" with you over the coach because let's face FACTS ;D we are never going to agree but you haven't been there now for what 3 years? ... so how would you actually know what they are being told with regard to how to play
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but you haven't been there now for what 3 years?
Gee, has it been that long ;) ;) ;)
:rollin
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its not rocket science its just plain and simply Fuqd up. what happened after 3 quarter time???
we went long and direct and look what happened.
And that was because????????
Wonder who told 'em to da that?
Are you seriously telling me that Simmonds handballing 20 metres to the opposition is the game plan
VERY SIMPLE.
Wallace goes ASAP.
As a club we can salvage something out of year, anything is possible.
Yes that would good because it would appease the likes of you and that's what the club should do ::)
Tell me something all you geniuses ?
Why does one the best kicks playing the game kick the ball 20 metres??
I am talking about Lids
I don't know ... simplest way to find out is ask Lids....
Jack I am not going to get in to another "discussion" with you over the coach because let's face FACTS ;D we are never going to agree but you haven't been there now for what 3 years? ... so how would you actually know what they are being told with regard to how to play
LOL, I know just as much and I aint there. Players love to talk. Players aint happy either.
Can you you the likes of Lids and Newy are told to honour the first ""hit up target"" , which is usually short. they never kick into space.
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but you haven't been there now for what 3 years?
Gee, has it been that long ;) ;) ;)
:rollin
And in that time, we have gone backwards.
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but you haven't been there now for what 3 years?
Gee, has it been that long ;) ;) ;)
:rollin
And in that time, we have gone backwards.
Yeah, the list we had three years ago were champions :wallywink
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LOL, I know just as much and I aint there. Players love to talk. Players aint happy either.
Can you you the likes of Lids and Newy are told to honour the first ""hit up target"" , which is usually short. they never kick into space.
Yeah players do talk don't they (I think at this point I think I am supposed to put in one of these ;) so...) ;)
I suppose it depends on who you talk too doesn't it ;)
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but you haven't been there now for what 3 years?
Gee, has it been that long ;) ;) ;)
:rollin
And in that time, we have gone backwards.
Yeah, the list we had three years ago were champions :wallywink
We were competitive and had crack then, now we are the worst tackling team in the comp, who have more possesions in the back half of the ground . We wont win a game at this rate
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LOL, I know just as much and I aint there. Players love to talk. Players aint happy either.
Can you you the likes of Lids and Newy are told to honour the first ""hit up target"" , which is usually short. they never kick into space.
Yeah players do talk don't they (I think at this point I think I am supposed to put in one of these ;) so...) ;)
I suppose it depends on who you talk too doesn't it ;)
Yep, that is correct.
I thought you of all people would see through Wallace..
I did, 3 years ago,
He has ruined our club that many people have worked hard at.
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To WP and Moi ;)
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To WP and Moi ;)
;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
thanks
I thought you of all people would see through Wallace..
I see through alot of people Jack ;) ;)
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To WP and Moi ;)
;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
thanks
I thought you of all people would see through Wallace..
I see through alot of people Jack ;) ;)
Glad you do WP. ;) :cheers
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To WP and Moi ;)
As I was just saying to someone ;) you'd rather have me as coach than Wallace, you're so demented about him. Whatever happens, Jack, I will support my club and whatever they do. What about you? Same old same old if you don't get what you want?
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Moi, you would make a better coach, trust me
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Glad you do WP. ;) :cheers
So many I am actually losing count ;D
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Yep, that is correct.
I thought you of all people would see through Wallace..
I did, 3 years ago,
He has ruined our club that many people have worked hard at.
Our club has been ruined long before TW arrrived. Remember the terrible tit for tat trades with Collingwood? The club was run by so called Richmond men then! Now they hide to bag the way the club is running now! We rattled tins before TW came to the club, there was a North/Richmond merge scare before TW came! Robert Walls couldnt do it! The club let Swoopper Northy walk before TW came! We have been disastrous for a long time and the people who have supported the club for longer than 5 minutes can see that!
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Well then maybe it is time for the CEO to step in and make a few decisions and take some of Wallece's power away.
He has to stand up as well. Don't know if it would happen but it did at the Skunks here and there when old Eddie wasn't too happy.
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So Jackstar, do you still really think Wayne Campbell is the answer to our problems?
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One of the things that ruins this club along with other clubs is so called "supporters" thinking they are more important because they have money then they actually are.
These people see a CLub as their own personal toy, put conditions on their support and treat the people (read the average supporter) with disdain and live in the fantasy world of believing it is the right to do so
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So Jackstar, do you still really think Wayne Campbell is the answer to our problems?
The problem is this, most people think of Wayne Campbell the footballer, not the person.
Would anyone of given Clarkson a coaching job if they thought as him as the footballer ? NO ! Clarkson got the gig at Hawthorn through his personnel skills and "footy smarts"", not the footballer
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I DONT AGREE with sacking a coach early, but wallace is gone, he has lost the group just like danny did. 4 plus yrs here and we are no better off thats the cold hard truth.
yesterday was d day, the players made a statement , a loss to north next week and the club should not buckle under media pressure to keep wallace and send him off.
he has wasted enough time , its taken me 4 yrs to finally realise i have been bluffed by this bloke.
we are a joke and wallace has not delivered pure and simple.
in his 5th year we have a team that is just as bad , if not worse than when he started.
been living and waiting in hope for far too long, its time for action
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its taken me 4 yrs to finally realise i have been bluffed by this bloke.
we are a joke and wallace has not delivered pure and simple.
Me too, must say I was never going to be convinced either way until the end of this year, but that meant finals at the very least.
You know what? I was covinced we were going somewhere this year even up until the Melbourne debacle. 3.50 for the 8 was too much temptation for me during the week and once again my faith or BLIND stupidity has cost me again :banghead
I said finals or bust, well well looks like I/Richmond have busted pretty early :banghead
The worst thing is Melbourne are very ordinary and just beat us by playing simple footy, Melbourne will be lucky to win another game this year, says a lot about where we are at. :banghead Again
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its taken me 4 yrs to finally realise i have been bluffed by this bloke.
we are a joke and wallace has not delivered pure and simple.
Me too, must say I was never going to be convinced either way until the end of this year, but that meant finals at the very least.
You know what? I was covinced we were going somewhere this year even up until the Melbourne debacle. 3.50 for the 8 was too much temptation for me during the week and once again my faith or BLIND stupidity has cost me again :banghead
I said finals or bust, well well looks like I/Richmond have busted pretty early :banghead
The worst thing is Melbourne are very ordinary and just beat us by playing simple footy, Melbourne will be lucky to win another game this year, says a lot about where we are at. :banghead Again
your right CUB, absolutely right. Weplayed like the Dees in the last and look what happened. Its TW's game plan that is sending us nowhere.
Round 1, 2 and 3 i was angry, peeed off after the game but during and after the dees game i almost knew the result was coming.
IMO our season was lost against the Blues. The way we lost, the skill errors, the missed targets and the game plan was a sign of where our season was headed.
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its taken me 4 yrs to finally realise i have been bluffed by this bloke.
we are a joke and wallace has not delivered pure and simple.
Me too, must say I was never going to be convinced either way until the end of this year, but that meant finals at the very least.
You know what? I was covinced we were going somewhere this year even up until the Melbourne debacle. 3.50 for the 8 was too much temptation for me during the week and once again my faith or BLIND stupidity has cost me again :banghead
I said finals or bust, well well looks like I/Richmond have busted pretty early :banghead
The worst thing is Melbourne are very ordinary and just beat us by playing simple footy, Melbourne will be lucky to win another game this year, says a lot about where we are at. :banghead Again
They play us again
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I think we all have been niave at just how big a task the rebuilding will be. The five year timeline was obviously too short and our expectations elevated too high on the base of media hype and years of frustration.
This is a 7 year plan, plain and simple. Our young players need to reach that midage bracket not before we are challenging for a flag but become we make finals. This may be hard to accept but the evidence is there. Our senior players and 'list cloggers' (read Petts, JON, King and even Cogs) now need to be moved aside for youth if we have any chance of future success.
Should TW have been given a 7 year contract - hell no, but I believe he knew the extent of the task ahead and hoped he could claim a finals berth in his finals year to gain an extention and continue the process.
If we do bottom out again this year and take 6 + new recruits then I would start by delisting Petts, JON and King, and then move onto asking Brown, Bowden and Johnson to retire. On the back of his last two game Simmonds may be finished too which would almost garrentee us a wooden spoon given the state of our ruck development (though Gus showed promise on Sunday around the stoppages).
Even if TW does do the impossible now and make the eight I have now lost faith in his game plan given the current state of the game. Our list can not effectively play the zone and stop the opposition from moving through it. The other teams are prepared for this strategy and we do not have the skills to execute it. We do not shepherd, block and tackle. This is part of TW fast paced, run and carry game plan.
We do not play for each other. We are still playing to keep our placing in the team rather than win as a collective group and like minded passionate players. Is this the coaches fault...yes partially by changing the team so regularly but also our senior leaders fault too for not demanding success from each other.
Our leaders are all individual, selfish players. Richo bleeds for the club but struggles to do the defensive 1% with tackling, sheherding and smoothering. When was the last time you saw Richo dummy lead or block another forwards opponent so they can lead to space? When the ball is kicked to the forwardline Richo will go for the mark regardless of if his team mates are in a better position. If we are losing Richo tries to win the game off his own actions and own boot. We need our spiritual leaders to do all the hard yards, sacrafice his own game and bring his young team mates into the game.
Bowden is another bad example. He has a strong presence on the field but his game philosophy is poles apart from where we need to be. He wants to slow everything down, take the safe option and gather possessions to keep the Dream Team coaches happy. Again - does he do the 1%? Does he tackle, shepherd, block and work off the ball - No. He is always in space looking to recieve. When he needed to defend on the weekend and was one out against his opponent Melbourne had no hesitation in kicking it to his opponent who beat him every time.
We need leaders who do the hard yards, are physical, passionate, aggressive and team orienated. I hope whatever coach comes to our club next year they retire the older players and demand team focused leaders who will accept no weakness on the field from their team.
We need a team of players not a group of individuals and if TW can't give that to us through his game plan and caoching style then we need change soon.
Stripes
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So Jackstar, do you still really think Wayne Campbell is the answer to our problems?
The problem is this, most people think of Wayne Campbell the footballer, not the person.
Would anyone of given Clarkson a coaching job if they thought as him as the footballer ? NO ! Clarkson got the gig at Hawthorn through his personnel skills and "footy smarts"", not the footballer
At least Clarkson was always considered an angry man with "short man syndrome", in fact it's often the players who were never stars who make the best coaches, however they still needed to be involved in success at some level. Clarkson was an assistant coach at Port Adelaide when they won the premiership, Wayne Campbell is no more credentialled to be a senior coach than Danny Frawley was.
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If we got rid of Wallace now wouldn't it cost us a heap of money that the club can't afford to pay out if we terminate his contract.
But if he was to walk would cancel the money owing to him cause he walked.
I don't see us making him walk, I can see him walk.
And I agree with all the chatter about the Hawks now coach. I had never heard of him or remembered his name as a player.
But I'm sure I will remember him as a coach now.
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We were competitive and had crack then,
Even though our team couldn't play much worse I am against giving them illegal drugs.
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So Jackstar, do you still really think Wayne Campbell is the answer to our problems?
The problem is this, most people think of Wayne Campbell the footballer, not the person.
Would anyone of given Clarkson a coaching job if they thought as him as the footballer ? NO ! Clarkson got the gig at Hawthorn through his personnel skills and "footy smarts"", not the footballer
incorrect
clarkson got the job because he was a tough uncompromising player with a succesful coachng record, he was also an assistant at port adelaide when they won the premiership.
Wayne campbell is none of the above.
Don't compare them as they have nothing in common.
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Even though our team couldn't play much worse I am against giving them illegal drugs.
If we had to go that path we have got the right connections with little old Benny. :whistle
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So Jackstar, do you still really think Wayne Campbell is the answer to our problems?
The problem is this, most people think of Wayne Campbell the footballer, not the person.
Would anyone of given Clarkson a coaching job if they thought as him as the footballer ? NO ! Clarkson got the gig at Hawthorn through his personnel skills and "footy smarts"", not the footballer
incorrect
clarkson got the job because he was a tough uncompromising player with a succesful coachng record, he was also an assistant at port adelaide when they won the premiership.
Wayne campbell is none of the above.
Don't compare them as they have nothing in common.
Hey Blaisee.
How is suntan Terry going these days,(Your mate) You still love him do you ? You are a easily led person ::)
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So Jackstar, do you still really think Wayne Campbell is the answer to our problems?
The problem is this, most people think of Wayne Campbell the footballer, not the person.
Would anyone of given Clarkson a coaching job if they thought as him as the footballer ? NO ! Clarkson got the gig at Hawthorn through his personnel skills and "footy smarts"", not the footballer
incorrect
clarkson got the job because he was a tough uncompromising player with a succesful coachng record, he was also an assistant at port adelaide when they won the premiership.
Wayne campbell is none of the above.
Don't compare them as they have nothing in common.
Hey Blaisee.
How is suntan Terry going these days,(Your mate) You still love him do you ? You are a easily led person ::)
some things never change, predictable as usual jack
you wrongly compare clarkson and campbell , I give you indisputable facts as to why they are nothing alike, and you respond to that argument by taliking about terrys tan. Useless irrelevant and false dribble from you as usual.
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Blaisee, I am sick of even replying to you,
I told you years ago Wallace couldnt coach, and you laughed, well well well.
Stick it !
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its amazing how some get great satisfaction (smugness) from our predicament.
personally its a personality disorder.
im sure most know who they are. :banghead
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its amazing how some get great satisfaction (smugness) from our predicament.
personally its a personality disorder.
im sure most know who they are. :banghead
That's just another reason why I reckon we our Club has to show some ticker this week
They have 2 choices the easy way out or hang tough and make a tough choice
As I said on another thread and I haven't changed my view:
Easiest thing in the world this Club can do is to sack the coach.
But will it solve all the ills at the Club?
No, they will still be there but it will certainly take the heat off a few people and make them popular.
The question has to be what effect will it have in the long term? We are seen to be club that "eats its own". Whether the perception is actually valid is open to debate but that is how we are viewed. The easy option only re-inforces that view.
Tough decisions are those that are not usually popular and nor should they be. Strong leaders make tough calls.
We will probably soon know how prepared our club is to make tough decisions.
Let's see how much ticker we've got
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its amazing how some get great satisfaction (smugness) from our predicament.
personally its a personality disorder.
im sure most know who they are. :banghead
That's just another reason why I reckon we our Club has to show some ticker this week
They have 2 choices the easy way out or hang tough and make a tough choice
As I said on another thread and I haven't changed my view:
Easiest thing in the world this Club can do is to sack the coach.
But will it solve all the ills at the Club?
No, they will still be there but it will certainly take the heat off a few people and make them popular.
The question has to be what effect will it have in the long term? We are seen to be club that "eats its own". Whether the perception is actually valid is open to debate but that is how we are viewed. The easy option only re-inforces that view.
Tough decisions are those that are not usually popular and nor should they be. Strong leaders make tough calls.
We will probably soon know how prepared our club is to make tough decisions.
Let's see how much ticker we've got
some are living in the dark ages WP
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how about terry shows some ticker?
how about players like deledio brown simmonds and other players show some ticker???
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how about terry shows some ticker?
how about players like deledio brown simmonds and other players show some ticker???
Simmonds is injured & shouldnot be playing
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how about terry shows some ticker?
how about players like deledio brown simmonds and other players show some ticker???
Simmonds is injured & shouldnot be playing
I wonder if he has the same eye disease as Brown had.
I was pleased to see Graham ruck pretty well on the weekend IMO, I havent seen that for a while from Gus and maybe a Gus/patto combination might be serviceable.
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I like the part about the playo show some ticker tick tick tick as this thread is called.
As it would be a good chang eto what they are showing at the moment. And this is all coaching things aside.
We played a good last quarter but this doesn't make a match.
We need that sort of thing to go for the full game.
We have got a team that doesn't believe in it's self.
And I don't know how they will build that back up.
So if they can instil in them that we are good enough to beat any team on any day we will walk away with a win.
But if we continue we will not.
Just some player have to have more self belief and we'll be right.
And Terry can leave at the end of the year, knowing we are in an okay position, if they believe that they are good enough.
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Reality is this.
Terry should be shown the door this evening, if he doesnt resign, he will back sacked by Round 7.
The problem is this, Terry approached the board after round 20 last year wanting an extension of 3 years to his contract and a increase of 20% in his salary.
I rest my case :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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how about terry shows some ticker?
how about players like deledio brown simmonds and other players show some ticker???
If you read my post I said the entire Club needs to show some ticker that menas every single one of them
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Reality is this.
Terry should be shown the door this evening, if he doesnt resign, he will back sacked by Round 7.
The problem is this, Terry approached the board after round 20 last year wanting an extension of 3 years to his contract and a increase of 20% in his salary.
I rest my case :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
That's your reality or another one of your FACTs; which I'm think I am fair in saying are the same thing ::)
What's your fascination with round 7 btw..... ::)
I could blow a woofer valve but I'll leave it at that
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In all this to there should be players a little long in the tooth should be demoted to the VLF.
Like one of my fovourite players in Bowden. Yer he got heaps of touches but how useful were all those touches.
If Terry is to be shown the door, so do some of the heartless players we have in our team just there or the money.
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Reality is this.
Terry should be shown the door this evening, if he doesnt resign, he will back sacked by Round 7.
The problem is this, Terry approached the board after round 20 last year wanting an extension of 3 years to his contract and a increase of 20% in his salary.
I rest my case :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
That's your reality or another one of your FACTs; which I'm think I am fair in saying are the same thing ::)
What's your fascination with round 7 btw..... ::)
I could blow a woofer valve but I'll leave it at that
Have no idea re round 7, just what i was told
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Reality is this.
Terry should be shown the door this evening, if he doesnt resign, he will back sacked by Round 7.
The problem is this, Terry approached the board after round 20 last year wanting an extension of 3 years to his contract and a increase of 20% in his salary.
I rest my case :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
That's your reality or another one of your FACTs; which I'm think I am fair in saying are the same thing ::)
What's your fascination with round 7 btw..... ::)
I could blow a woofer valve but I'll leave it at that
just more crap from jack.
according to jack, sheedy was has been appointed at least 12 times and is in his second 3 year term :scream
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Have no idea re round 7, just what i was told
By who one of those faceless insiders?
Now assuming you are getting feed all this info from your mailman ::) you are just showing what is fundamental wrong with our Club - people cannot shut up and keep things in house.... unless of course the mailman is telling you in confidence and you can't help yourself but blurt it out to the world...
Actually I think we've been down this road before
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Have no idea re round 7, just what i was told
By who one of those faceless insiders?
Now assuming you are getting feed all this info from your mailman ::) you are just showing what is fundamental wrong with our Club - people cannot shut up and keep things in house.... unless of course the mailman is telling you in confidence and you can't help yourself but blurt it out to the world...
Actually I think we've been down this road before
YOU elected them :lol
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Have no idea re round 7, just what i was told
By who one of those faceless insiders?
Now assuming you are getting feed all this info from your mailman ::) you are just showing what is fundamental wrong with our Club - people cannot shut up and keep things in house.... unless of course the mailman is telling you in confidence and you can't help yourself but blurt it out to the world...
Actually I think we've been down this road before
i believe it was last year when Sheeds was going to be coach wasnt it. :lol
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YOU elected them :lol
So did YOU :lol