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Wallace to wield the axe
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen 7:01 PM Sat 09 May, 2009
RICHMOND coach Terry Wallace says his side's poor ball-use and decision-making has to change if it is to get back on the winners list, and he is set to swing the axe in order to find players who can play at the top level.
The Tigers looked good for the first 40 minutes of the game, playing-on at every opportunity and holding a four-goal lead through the early stages of the second quarter, but then the Lions put the pressure on and Richmond fell away badly.
Despite losing by a seemingly-respectable 26 points, the Tigers finished with 84 more possessions, had one more inside-50 and even out-tackled the Lions 59-44, but their inability to see and hit targets cost them dearly.
Wallace said the club needed to make changes in order to see which players on the list were up to senior football.
"That's my responsibility coaching at this stage – I'm coaching the Richmond football club for the Richmond football club, and I will do what the Richmond footy club thinks is the right thing to do in regards to having a look at players”, he said after the loss.
"Clearly that's where we're at at the moment – we've got to make some difficult decisions ... We have to work out who are the right guys to take the club forward and who aren’t, and that's exactly what we'll do."
Wallace said the team's decision-making and ball-use were equally poor.
"We had times where guys got the ball and were looking down one tram-track, and we had guys streaming down the other side of the ground out clear.
“The ability to have vision to find them on the other side of the ground – you’ve just got to open up your vision in this game.
"We didn't hit our targets, and also our decision-making was poor."
The coach said he had spoken to the players and put them on notice regarding their positions after what Wallace called a lack of “respect for the ball”.
"The ball is gold in the game, and if you give up gold you're not likely to get it back in a hurry”, he said.
"The disappointing thing for me was that, from midway through the second quarter to midway through the last it was 12 goals to 2, and in that period of time we had one more inside-50 entry than them. We had 29 entries for two goals, and they had 28 entries for 12 goals.
"I reckon the blokes were having a crack, but I thought it was the worst we've disrespected the ball ... They kicked 10 goals in that period from our turnovers, and that's the ball game.”
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/76518/default.aspx
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wallace is such a liar, if he said this after round 1 and 3, and foley has been our worst ball user and still in th eteam
lets see if terry has the balls to dump foley
ffs we are sick of ur lies and spin terry
how about you axe yourself first and do the right thing for the rfc
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Shane Edwars note to file please go back to Coburg and find your skills, same for Schulz.
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Is he actually saying - It's about time the likes of Hughes, Jon, Schulz e.t.c. ( The players that have come in and out of the side on a regular basis, but have displayed minimal and inconsistant potential ) . Be given regular game time to justify the actions of moving them on.
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Is he just saying - As the season is already pretty much shot the board have directed me to ensure we get a couple of good draft picks next year and as my contract wont be renewed but i still want a paycheck, i will do as they ask.
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Shane Edwars note to file please go back to Coburg and find your skills, same for Schulz.
EDWARDS SCHULZ and JON
NEVER TO BE PLAYED AGAIN :chuck
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Shane Edwars note to file please go back to Coburg and find your skills, same for Schulz.
EDWARDS SCHULZ and JON
NEVER TO BE PLAYED AGAIN :chuck
Edwards-was a 2nd round selection- Not up to it
Schulz- was a 1st round selection- Not up to it
JON- was a 1st round selection- Not up to it.
Hughes- was a 2nd round pick- unsighted in 2009
Casserley- 3rd round selection- already delisted
Tambling- 1st round selection- looking more like a 4th rounder instead
Meyer- 1st round selection- already delisted
Pattison- 1st round selection- struggling
Polo- 2nd round pick- probably in the 20 to 25 player ranking group.
Id do the rest but I cant be stuffed. Look at our drafts we screwed them up.
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Ramps,
TOTALLY agree
Cannot beleive what I seen today,
JON has no idea,
The commentors on 3AW were laughing on the radio.
Nathan Buckley couldbt beleive what he seen.
PICK 8 ::) ::) ::) ::) JON :chuck
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bit harsh om tambling , nearly 30 touches today playing very deep up fwd, was our best player along with gus
not his fault he has a poo coach, but blingers is starting to produce where others who were perceived to be better than him are starting to slide and slide fast
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Look I dont have any personal issues with players at all. My problem is that the National Draft on average produces 25 to 30 players who are reasonable. That means you only have R1 and maybe R2 of the draft to pick kids and have a decent chance of getting a good players. My problem is that our list is cluttered with R1 and R2 draft failures.
If you cant pick a player in R1 or R2 then your going nowhere as a footy club. That means the recruiting team has to go, the coaches have to go, and more resources have to be put into football development.
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but u say that tamblingis looking like a 4th rounder right now
actually right here , right now, based on the past few weeks, tambling is looking like a 1st rounder, deledio like a 4th rounder and foley looking like he should have always been a rookie and jackson is looking like a 1st rounder
strange how things can change in footy
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as l said last recently 15 Richmond players are not AFL standard
10 of them are not even VFL standard
several of them would struggle at country senior level
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actually right here , right now, based on the past few weeks, tambling is looking like a 1st rounder, deledio like a 4th rounder and foley looking like he should have always been a rookie and jackson is looking like a 1st rounder
More Deledio bashing? Give it a rest, he was one of our better players yet again.
You can't have one 21 year old carrying an entire side you know... unbelievable!!!
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as l said last recently 15 Richmond players are not AFL standard
10 of them are not even VFL standard
several of them would struggle at country senior level
Correct, but dont tell anyone. :shh most supporters want Terry to stay and think that Schulz is a great player, ditto JON
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Shane Edwars note to file please go back to Coburg and find your skills, same for Schulz.
EDWARDS SCHULZ and JON
NEVER TO BE PLAYED AGAIN :chuck
Edwards-was a 2nd round selection- Not up to it
Schulz- was a 1st round selection- Not up to it
JON- was a 1st round selection- Not up to it.
Hughes- was a 2nd round pick- unsighted in 2009
Casserley- 3rd round selection- already delisted
Tambling- 1st round selection- looking more like a 4th rounder instead
Meyer- 1st round selection- already delisted
Pattison- 1st round selection- struggling
Polo- 2nd round pick- probably in the 20 to 25 player ranking group.
Id do the rest but I cant be stuffed. Look at our drafts we screwed them up.
THE CLUB IS RIDDLED WITH CANCER IN THE RECRUITING AND DEVELOPMENT SPACE.
Thats the fault of all the staff, particulary Wallet and that stuffwit Miller. They have successfully stuffed us up for 5 years.
WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND THINKS SCHULZ, EDWARDS, JON, MCMAHON, PATTERSON ARE PREMEIRSHIP PLAYERS????????????????????
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as l said last recently 15 Richmond players are not AFL standard
10 of them are not even VFL standard
several of them would struggle at country senior level
How can we take u seriously when u have Joel as your pic
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they need a sports psychologist to get in there and see exactly what goes on in some of the players heads.
The decision making today in the 3rd and 4th quarter was some of the worst i have ever seen.
Wallace is far from the perfect coach... but alot of the players are cheating him by the way they're playing.
This backwards/scared/fickle play needs to stop. It's a disease. It kills whatever momentum is there and makes it so easy for the opposition to force turnovers. I'm not sure what the plan was in the forward line today ... but it was a mess. Rarely saw a lead in the 3rd quarter.
We lost that game today... it was well within the capabilities and we went back into our shells and let brisbane walk all over us ...
It's time someone behind the scenes stood up and showed some heart and passion, and gave the players a really good rev up about what this club stands for. Time to htfu. Time to stop the s#@T and give the supporters something positive to yell about.
regards: 3rd row, right pocket, city end.
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I'm just astounded he didnt quit today. This is the same guy who said he'd taken the Dogs as far as he could.
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he is on $500,000 a year and has no idea.
:banghead
he blames the players.
Why play Schulz, Edwards and JON in the first place :banghead
We not give players there first games. Matty Knights does and see his recipe for success
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they need a sports psychologist to get in there and see exactly what goes on in some of the players heads.
The decision making today in the 3rd and 4th quarter was some of the worst i have ever seen.
Wallace is far from the perfect coach... but alot of the players are cheating him by the way they're playing.
This backwards/scared/fickle play needs to stop. It's a disease. It kills whatever momentum is there and makes it so easy for the opposition to force turnovers. I'm not sure what the plan was in the forward line today ... but it was a mess. Rarely saw a lead in the 3rd quarter.
We lost that game today... it was well within the capabilities and we went back into our shells and let brisbane walk all over us ...
It's time someone behind the scenes stood up and showed some heart and passion, and gave the players a really good rev up about what this club stands for. Time to htfu. Time to stop the s#@T and give the supporters something positive to yell about.
regards: 3rd row, right pocket, city end.
sounds like what you are saying is the players are not playing for the coach or listening to his message. answer is easy , sack wallace now
maybe this is why foley is constantly running around in circles and sideways and missing targets, maybe he is protesting lol
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interesting about Foley.
His game has changed dramatically.
he does run around in circles :banghead
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Foley and Deledio haters. :sleep
Would hate to see how we went without them. Replace them with Thomson and Hislop and we would have been smashed by 10 goals.
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So the coach is going to wield the axe according to his press conference. Says he's not happy about the players who butchered the footy. Wonder who he is going to choose to chop this week? Just had a look at the stats on the RFC website (I know they are not the best ones around, but ...)
Clanger kings this week: Bowden, Foley, Nahas
Least efficient disposal: Nahas, Reiwoldt, Edwards, JON
Year to date clanger kings: Foley, Jackson, Bowden, McGuane, Tuck
Year to date least efficient disposal: Reiwoldt, Richardson, Edwards, JON, Nahas
Wonder if there's going to any correlation between the outs and the stats?
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he blames the players.
I am not in the mood to get into another discussion with you over this
But the players are as much to blame for yesterday as the coach was
You explain to me how for the first quarter and half they played the way they did and looked good - not great but good and then it turns to crap for the remainder of the match. Even Daniel Jackson said on radio that they didn't play to instructions
I don't think it was the coach who gifted 2 goals to the Lions in the 2nd qtr that got then back within 12 points? I think we can thank our most senior player out there for that....and didn't the heads drop after it :banghead :banghead
As I said bash the coach but don't leave out the players, they deserve as much blame as anyone.... there were some very selfish blokes out there yesterday
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interesting about Foley.
His game has changed dramatically.
he does run around in circles :banghead
Yes, because Brian Royal is no longer the Midfeild coach, I wonder who is :gobdrop
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he blames the players.
I am not in the mood to get into another discussion with you over this
But the players are as much to blame for yesterday as the coach was
You explain to me how for the first quarter and half they played the way they did and looked good - not great but good and then it turns to crap for the remainder of the match. Even Daniel Jackson said on radio that they didn't play to instructions
I don't think it was the coach who gifted 2 goals to the Lions in the 2nd qtr that got then back within 12 points? I think we can thank our most senior player out there for that....and didn't the heads drop after it :banghead :banghead
As I said bash the coach but don't leave out the players, they deserve as much blame as anyone.... there were some very selfish blokes out there yesterday
we cannot shy away from the facts and blame the players when they do as the coach tell them, if not then they have lost the coach and he must go.
but this is what make me realy stuffen mad, yesterday in the press conference terry said its time we really assessed the list properly and make some really hard decisions. WTF is he saying this now for, was that his master 5 year plan to assess the list at the end. He admitted by saying that that he has totally 100% stuffed up , he has been paid good money to finally realise now the list is stuffed.
i am disgusted and very upset with those comment, Terry is a total stuff up and the sooner you terry lovers realise that the better, how dare he come 4.5 yrs in to his contract and realise we are poo and need to make changes
stuff off terry and refund us your last 4.5 years pay you theiving creep
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we cannot shy away from the facts and blame the players when they do as the coach tell them, if not then they have lost the coach and he must go.
Read what I wrote TT - Daniel Jackson said on the wireless that they didn't play to instructions.... Now who do we blame there exactly
but this is what make me realy effen mad, yesterday in the press conference terry said its time we really assessed the list properly and make some really hard decisions. WTF is he saying this now for, was that his master 5 year plan to assess the list at the end. He admitted by saying that that he has totally 100% stuffed up , he has been paid good money to finally realise now the list is stuffed.
i am disgusted and very upset with those comment, Terry is a total eff up and the sooner you terry lovers realise that the better, how dare he come 4.5 yrs in to his contract and realise we are poo and need to make changes
Perhaps TW is guilty of what so many coaches before him have been ... protecting and defending his players when they clearly don't deserve it.
But hey what does it really matter
And BTW - and this is directed to everyone enough with the avoidance of the swear filter >:(
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interesting about Foley.
His game has changed dramatically.
he does run around in circles :banghead
Yes, because Brian Royal is no longer the Midfeild coach, I wonder who is :gobdrop
wouldnt it be fair to say our greatest defficiency is up forward, i thought we had 80 more possies than our opponent, despite winning the clearances it materialised to NOTHING...you've hit a dead end there partner if our going on a witch hunt ::)
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but u say that tamblingis looking like a 4th rounder right now
actually right here , right now, based on the past few weeks, tambling is looking like a 1st rounder, deledio like a 4th rounder and foley looking like he should have always been a rookie and jackson is looking like a 1st rounder
strange how things can change in footy
agree! expect Foley i think has lost his hunger for kicking goals on the run!
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we cannot shy away from the facts and blame the players when they do as the coach tell them, if not then they have lost the coach and he must go.
Read what I wrote TT - Daniel Jackson said on the wireless that they didn't play to instructions.... Now who do we blame there exactly
but this is what make me realy effen mad, yesterday in the press conference terry said its time we really assessed the list properly and make some really hard decisions. WTF is he saying this now for, was that his master 5 year plan to assess the list at the end. He admitted by saying that that he has totally 100% stuffed up , he has been paid good money to finally realise now the list is stuffed.
i am disgusted and very upset with those comment, Terry is a total eff up and the sooner you terry lovers realise that the better, how dare he come 4.5 yrs in to his contract and realise we are poo and need to make changes
Perhaps TW is guilty of what so many coaches before him have been ... protecting and defending his players when they clearly don't deserve it.
But hey what does it really matter
And BTW - and this is directed to everyone enough with the avoidance of the swear filter >:(
wp, dont be so naive, the only reason a team wont follow the coaches orders and then publically say so is because the team does not respect listen to or want the coach
wake up, smell the roses
jackson if he said that, is just let it known that that they dont listen to the coach. the coach thus has lost the players ears
good bye terry
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wp, dont be so naive, the only reason a team wont follow the coaches orders and then publically say so is because the team does not respect listen to or want the coach
wake up, smell the roses
jackson if he said that, is just let it known that that they dont listen to the coach. the coach thus has lost the players ears
good bye terry
Then using your thoery then our players are a disgrace as well ... this Club means something to every single person who goes to the games... seems it doens't mean much to our players if they are going around losing to spite the coach
But as I said what does it really matter .. I am over it
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wp, dont be so naive, the only reason a team wont follow the coaches orders and then publically say so is because the team does not respect listen to or want the coach
wake up, smell the roses
jackson if he said that, is just let it known that that they dont listen to the coach. the coach thus has lost the players ears
good bye terry
Then using your thoery then our players are a disgrace as well ... this Club means something to every single person who goes to the games... seems it doens't mean much to our players if they are going around losing to spite the coach
But as I said what does it really matter .. I am over it
thats why we need a total clean sweep of the club, every one there is to blame, we need a new board, new coaching panel and 70% new playing list. if teams can start from scratch like wce, adelaide ...and soon GC17 etc, why cant we, at least the rfc has its fans and its history, all they have to do is wipe the slate clean and start again .
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ttime, be hard to find anyone who didn't think terry was gone but if you sack him now who is going to step in? doesn't seem to be much confidence in king or campbell, so if sheeds won't mind the list then who will? part-time job for pagan? terry might be the best option until something better arrives. like the new board and the top 30 draft picks the tiger fairy is going to drop in the punt road mailbox next week. this season is terry's car crash i recon he's tried every trick he's got and come up with nothing, the media have no idea the fans are in the same boat and it seems the players too. time to put on a brave face and cheer the positives until the time is right to ring in the changes. maybe we could just take the rest of the season off and focus on basic skills training. :help
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ttime, be hard to find anyone who didn't think terry was gone but if you sack him now who is going to step in? doesn't seem to be much confidence in king or campbell, so if sheeds won't mind the list then who will? part-time job for pagan? terry might be the best option until something better arrives. like the new board and the top 30 draft picks the tiger fairy is going to drop in the punt road mailbox next week. this season is terry's car crash i recon he's tried every trick he's got and come up with nothing, the media have no idea the fans are in the same boat and it seems the players too. time to put on a brave face and cheer the positives until the time is right to ring in the changes. maybe we could just take the rest of the season off and focus on basic skills training. :help
Good summary, nothing achieved by winning too many games if we won't make the finals. Last year we only won the games at the end of the year because we were panicked into it by the hysterical supporters spured on by the Richmond hating media.Other clubs moved into list management mid season, but we went flat out to finish ninth. I gree with Dermie TW should have really built the list through kids instead of trying to win in the first 2-3 years.
It must be like shooting ducks in a cage to the media. we all know including TW that he is not going to be coach next year includding Terry but along with the Richmond management stay strong and use this year to develop any of the kids when they are(half) ready to play. I will repect the management and coaches if they do the best for the club and not for their own short term gain ( Couragous if the do) like Shaw did for Collingwood when he couldn't make it.
If we win a few with kids, great but if we finish down the bottom with less than 4 wins , even greater, we will get a chance of a couple of picks in the top 20. If they use the picks for other clubs discards this time I will be very sad. Of course there will be the usual circus about tanking but our leaders should come out and say we are playing the kids in the best interest of our future and dont care if the jurnos team doesnt get a better pick.
We can only get out of this mess with level heads where people think with there heads and not there hearts which will be a real challenge for all at Tigerland as passion has always been our badge.
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we dont need to sign up anyone to step in as coach, let king and campbell just caretake the team. wallace is just there for absolutely no reason, what is the real point of keeping him or any player who wont be there next yr in the team, unless we have ideas to trade them and beef up their profile