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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: wayne on June 11, 2009, 04:44:26 PM
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RICHMOND v WEST COAST
Richmond
B: Chris Newman, Kelvin Moore, Dean Polo
HB: Shane Edwards, Luke McGuane, Will Thursfield
C: Andrew Collins, Shane Tuck, Brett Deledio
HF: Richard Tambling, Jack Riewoldt, Ben Cousins
F: Adam Pattison, Mitch Morton, Robin Nahas
Foll: Angus Graham, Daniel Jackson, Nathan Foley
I/C: Trent Cotchin, Tom Hislop, Alex Rance, Tyrone Vickery
Emg: Jake King, Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls, Adam Thomson
In: Vickery, Edwards, Nahas, Graham, Hislop
Out: Joel Bowden, Troy Simmonds, Mark Coughlan, Jordan McMahon, Kayne Pettifer
New: Tyrone Vickery (Sandringham)
West Coast
B: Matt Spangher, Darren Glass, David Wirrpanda
HB: Adam Selwood, Eric Mackenzie, Shannon Hurn
C: Mark Nicoski, Daniel Kerr, Matt Rosa
HF: Chris Masten, Josh Kennedy, Scott Selwood
F: Nic Naitanui, Quinten Lynch, Mark LeCras
Foll: Dean Cox, Matt Priddis, Brad Ebert
I/C: Mitch Brown , Jamie McNamara, Tyson Stenglein, Tom Swift
Emg: Chad Fletcher, Tim Houlihan, Beau Wilkes
In: Kerr, Naitanui,Wirrpanda
Out: Andrew Embley (ankle), Adam Hunter (shoulder), Ben McKinley
New: Nic Naitanui (Swan Districts)
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Changing of the guard. :thumbsup
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RICHMOND v WEST COAST
Richmond
B: Chris Newman, Kelvin Moore, Dean Polo
HB: Shane Edwards, Luke McGuane, Will Thursfield
C: Andrew Collins, Shane Tuck, Brett Deledio
HF: Richard Tambling, Jack Riewoldt, Ben Cousins
F: Adam Pattison, Mitch Morton, Robin Nahas
Foll: Angus Graham, Daniel Jackson, Nathan Foley
I/C: Trent Cotchin, Tom Hislop, Alex Rance, Tyrone Vickery
Emg: Jake King, Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls, Adam Thomson
In: Vickery, Edwards, Nahas, Graham, Hislop
Out: Joel Bowden, Troy Simmonds, Mark Coughlan, Jordan McMahon, Kayne Pettifer
New: Tyrone Vickery (Sandringham)
West Coast
B: Matt Spangher, Darren Glass, David Wirrpanda
HB: Adam Selwood, Eric Mackenzie, Shannon Hurn
C: Mark Nicoski, Daniel Kerr, Matt Rosa
HF: Chris Masten, Josh Kennedy, Scott Selwood
F: Nic Naitanui, Quinten Lynch, Mark LeCras
Foll: Dean Cox, Matt Priddis, Brad Ebert
I/C: Mitch Brown , Jamie McNamara, Tyson Stenglein, Tom Swift
Emg: Chad Fletcher, Tim Houlihan, Beau Wilkes
In: Kerr, Naitanui,Wirrpanda
Out: Andrew Embley (ankle), Adam Hunter (shoulder), Ben McKinley
New: Nic Naitanui (Swan Districts)
gotta say
COuldnt be happier with the team selected
If we win, we win on the back of youth, IE a team that will get better. that...........I can live with :thumbsup
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never been more happier with a team selected all year. Could have done without Edwards though.
Thompson....couldn't even get a gig with the way we are going, says a lot about his worth to the team
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Coburg team will be interesting.
Wonder if any of the "outs" will call it a day?
Never a dull moment hey?
:cheers
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Great team selection. Edwards has a chance here, as do all the young players, to make his mark and claim the backline position.
I would really love to see Thomson play in the middle and thought he deserved a call up over Hislop for mine. ???
Vickery could be a great roaming forward for us and I will be highly anticipating his ruch dwells with Natanui. :cheers
Stripes
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Hislop has been tried before and found wanting - perhaps this is his last chance and if he fails again Thompson could come in.
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Great selections!
Only change I'd have is:
In: Coughlan
Out: Edwards
Although Edwards has played well under Rawlings. Its my yellow and black heart that really feels for Coughlan that gives 100% and has waited 3 years for another crack.
Simmonds wont play again, writing on the wall was when Jacko thumped him on the chest trying to pump him up, shouldn't need to do that to a 10 year player.
Bowden I think woudl have been better to retire him and give him a send off game, whats the point dropping him and bringing him back later..
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Very happy. :cheers
Hope Cogs, Post, Thomson, JON etc. play well for Coburg.
Only thing i do not like is King on the EMG list :P
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A new beginning.....How exciting. :gotigers
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Almost agree with the changes. Dont know about Edwards though ? Would of kept Joel in but played up forward.
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edwards > pettifer
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do not like Hislop or Edwards. both have been given an opportunity. good to see Vickery, Graham and 'Big Man' Nahas.
would like a tall forward though, Pattison might be that player at full forward hopefully!
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Err folks ....
Coburg don't play this week
But who cares about that - very good selections very very good outs ;D
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Almost agree with the changes. Dont know about Edwards though ? Would of kept Joel in but played up forward.
agree with that :thumbsup
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This is the happiest that I've been with both the inclusions and the dumpings so far this year. Now if we can just fit Jayden Post and Andrew Browne into the side in the coming weeks I'll be in hog heaven (this is not a swine flu reference ;D
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I can't believe Bowden is out of the side
I'm off to do a happy dance ;D ;D ;D
Simmo out is just a bonus
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Football manager Ross Monaghan said the changes were based on form.
"Robbie missed last week with a corkie, and if it hadn't been such a short week he'd probably have played, so he's 100 per cent," Monaghan told richmondfc.com.au.
"Gus has had one game back with Coburg after his hammy, so he's right to go as well.
"Tommy Hislop's been in some good form with Coburg, as has Shane Edwards.
"And Ty is in for his first game, of course."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/78657/default.aspx
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I don't think I've ever seen OER so united in it's opinion!! ;D
And for me? Yes, I'm as happy as everyone else with these changes. Maybe Thompson is a bit stiff but the fact he has been named emergency makes me think they decided they could only make so many changes in one week and he is next in line for a crack. Whatever it brings, at least we aren't going to die wondering - unless we do a Richmond and reverse it all one week later. :-\
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r these 5 of the 5 who so courageously went about Firing the coach ?
LMfaFo !!!!!
Suck hard ones,ladies!!
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r these 5 of the 5 who so courageously went about Firing the coach ?
LMfaFo !!!!!
Suck hard ones,ladies!!
You were sticking up for the coach 3 weeks, welcome to the new era ""brackets " ;)
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sticking up for the coach OVER the lagging dogs - definitely!
U cannot have players like that in your TEAM - it poisons the youth.
Rawlings has scored big with me on this.
Time will tell if he is merely attempting to rise to the occassion.
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I'm listening to Money for Nothing - Dire Straights whilst reading this thread and it ROCKS !
Try it, you might just like it. ;D
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I am so happy with the team selected. :clapping
New era began once the solarium man finished his post match press conference last Friday. These selections only verify this new era is upon us. The kids are playing at the expence of blokes who have tried but have fallen short.
Great team selection. :thumbsup
Ox you summed it up beautifully. If we win on Saturday but lose heavily with youth in our next game against the Saints we will see if Rawlings will keep the faith with the kids or revert back to the trusty old boots in Joel, Nayf, Troy Skata and the like. :thumbsup
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wow talk about appealing to the tiger masses, Jade
i don't like that cogs has been ommitted with the rest of this mob, very very unfair for him to get tarnished with same brush.
maybe it wasnt only terry's fair well game last week...
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cogs is just too slow.... and can't kick over a jam tin.....sadly.
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wow talk about appealing to the tiger masses, Jade
i don't like that cogs has been ommitted with the rest of this mob, very very unfair for him to get tarnished with same brush.
maybe it wasnt only terry's fair well game last week...
Is that you Pete?
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Great team, well done Tigers. Feels like a new dawn. Win or Lose, the players selected will feel privileged to wear the yellow and black, give a total effort across the game and walk off absolutely spent.
The 5 who were dropped - with one exception - looked ready to play again after most games this year.
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Great selections, especially Edwards, TW did not know how to use him, now that JR has put in a bit more pace in the side, watch Edwards come into his own.
:gotigers
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Thanks goodness were aren't tanking and are just playing kids/ list - 6 out over 25 - 6 in 22 and under.
We just might have a future if we keep making decisions like this that are in the best interest long term but will see some short term pain.
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wow talk about appealing to the tiger masses, Jade
i don't like that cogs has been ommitted with the rest of this mob, very very unfair for him to get tarnished with same brush.
maybe it wasnt only terry's fair well game last week...
Is that you Pete?
Nah its not champ, just new member with my first post ahaahh
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Take out Cousins, Tuck & Newman and that is is very young side we have
Great to see :thumbsup
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Great selections, especially Edwards, TW did not know how to use him, now that JR has put in a bit more pace in the side, watch Edwards come into his own.
:gotigers
I'm with you Dallas, I like Edwards, he was exciting in his debut year, then had his development stunted under Wallace. :clapping
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Edwards please........ well I suppose a lot of you went on about how Wallace had his favourites...... how long has Edwards been at Coburg... ::)
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Too many changes for mine, Vickery needs some experience around him in his first game, a lot of that has been left out of this side. Cogs and Bowden should have been left in. Those boys will run out of puff before the end, and why Hislop over Thompson??
Anyway he is the Coach and good luck with your decisions Jade???
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Too many changes for mine, Vickery needs some experience around him in his first game, a lot of that has been left out of this side. Cogs and Bowden should have been left in. Those boys will run out of puff before the end, and why Hislop over Thompson??
Anyway he is the Coach and good luck with your decisions Jade???
Some of the changes should have happened weeks ago, so I think we are making up for lost time ;D
If the club is going to make tough calls on the 30 brigade, then they need to make tough calls on a few others. The dropping of Cogs is one of those
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wayne is that an image created by the band tool being used as your display picture?? (im not sure of the age range here but tool are amazing)
can i just ask, why is there such adoration for edwards here? he is a good VFL player, that is it. he dosent have the size, awareness or skill to make it as genuine AFL player.
And on cogs being slow, im sorry but he could walk the entire game and show more than most.
last week he had 21 touches and NINE tackles, thats more than delidio, cotchin, tambiling, collins and mcmahon combined
i kinda rate toughness, heart and smart ball use over wishy washy speedsters..
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Would have left Bowden in.
Gives you more flexabilty in the game, as you could therefore swing McGaune or Moore up forward.
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Edwards please........ well I suppose a lot of you went on about how Wallace had his favourites...... how long has Edwards been at Coburg... ::)
Well first of all WAT sorry for having an opinion on our young stocks. I'll try to remember not to get excited about our youngsters again, instead I'll just reflect on all of our glory over the last 25 years. :wallywink
Wallace was instructing Edwards to look laterally (that means sideways for you uneducated Western Australians*) when 60m out from goal.
He admitted as much when he appeared on 'On the couch' earlier in the year. What crap coaching.
If Edwards is 60m out with one man in front of him....he should take the man on. If he gets caught with it, then he should look sideways!
Edwards will be good if he is played to his strengths, I can't see him being told to kick it sideways under Rawlings.
*I realise that WAT is not reflective of the general WA population
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wayne is that an image created by the band tool being used as your display picture?? (im not sure of the age range here but tool are amazing)
can i just ask, why is there such adoration for edwards here? he is a good VFL player, that is it. he dosent have the size, awareness or skill to make it as genuine AFL player.
And on cogs being slow, im sorry but he could walk the entire game and show more than most.
last week he had 21 touches and NINE tackles, thats more than delidio, cotchin, tambiling, collins and mcmahon combined
i kinda rate toughness, heart and smart ball use over wishy washy speedsters..
Totally agree 100%, we have just about included the Coburg side this weekend. Six in on swoop is too many and the ins against the outs is a loss of too much experience, Cogs should have been left in IMO WP....so should of Bowden. 3 -4 Changes would have done.
Don't you think 6 changes is a bit of an over reaction, I kind of look at me I am the Coach now. Well the ins, other then Vickery had better stand up otherwise Rawlings could be left with the old egg on the face.
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Edwards please........ well I suppose a lot of you went on about how Wallace had his favourites...... how long has Edwards been at Coburg... ::)
Well first of all WAT sorry for having an opinion on our young stocks. I'll try to remember not to get excited about our youngsters again, instead I'll just reflect on all of our glory over the last 25 years. :wallywink
Wallace was instructing Edwards to look laterally (that means sideways for you uneducated Western Australians*) when 60m out from goal.
He admitted as much when he appeared on 'On the couch' earlier in the year. What crap coaching.
If Edwards is 60m out with one man in front of him....he should take the man on. If he gets caught with it, then he should look sideways!
Edwards will be good if he is played to his strengths, I can't see him being told to kick it sideways under Rawlings.
*I realise that WAT is not reflective of the general WA population
Just for the record Dallas I backed Edwards in for a long time but he has gone no ware so if you took that post personaly then please consult your local Doctor. I get excited about every youngster that comes through the doors of that club until they display the type of football skills as Edwards does.
It doesn't matter if Edwards kicks sideways, up in the air, backwards, forwards or anyway for that matter he rarely hits his targets and is a crap shot for goal.
He cost us a lot at the start of the year with his continual turnover of the ball even when not under pressure. He is a god VFL player at best.
Finally I speak for myself so dont lower yourself by silly comments such as your last one.
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Edwards please........ well I suppose a lot of you went on about how Wallace had his favourites...... how long has Edwards been at Coburg... ::)
Well first of all WAT sorry for having an opinion on our young stocks. I'll try to remember not to get excited about our youngsters again, instead I'll just reflect on all of our glory over the last 25 years. :wallywink
Wallace was instructing Edwards to look laterally (that means sideways for you uneducated Western Australians*) when 60m out from goal.
He admitted as much when he appeared on 'On the couch' earlier in the year. What crap coaching.
If Edwards is 60m out with one man in front of him....he should take the man on. If he gets caught with it, then he should look sideways!
Edwards will be good if he is played to his strengths, I can't see him being told to kick it sideways under Rawlings.
*I realise that WAT is not reflective of the general WA population
Really happy with the ins and outs- at least it shows we don't want to win meaningless games with the same old heads. If we win, it is with kids and that i can handle with whats happened this year.
Also just on Edwards, i don't rate him either, just a skinny little boy who imo when he has played this year has looked so out of his league it's sad.
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Finally I speak for myself so dont lower yourself by silly comments such as your last one.
WAT, I know that you speak for yourself, because statistically, given that education is still free in WA, it would be impossible for the entire population of Western Australia to have such poor grammar and comprehension skills as you do.
But I digress.
Edwards has declined this year, there's no doubt about that. I want to know why, and to see him playing under a different coach might provide that answer.
I happen to be excited about the possible resurrection of his career. Is that OK?
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Finally I speak for myself so dont lower yourself by silly comments such as your last one.
WAT, I know that you speak for yourself, because statistically, given that education is still free in WA, it would be impossible for the entire population of Western Australia to have such poor grammar and comprehension skills as you do.
But I digress.
You do digress but I suppose anyone that is as inbread as you obviously has an excuse, you also seem to have a problem with WA, why would that be? I am sorry if I come accross uneducated...... oh hang on no I am not, go stuff yourself. Yes I digress but if you think you are better than me and you have the audacity to attack me personaly then my comments are all you deserve. :wallywink
Like I said I supported Edwards and he has shown nothing but if he gets up great and good luck to him, he has until the end of the year IMO, by the way a hell of a lot of posters agree regarding Edwards. So take your highly educated arse the stuff out of my face and shove it in theirs.
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Stick to the topic and stop with the personal sniping >:( :banghead
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I can't believe Bowden is out of the side
I'm off to do a happy dance ;D ;D ;D
Simmo out is just a bonus
such a silly thing to say.
Simmo being used in the same breath as Bowden.
Give me a break Simmo is nowhere near the player Bowden was.
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You do digress but I suppose anyone that is as inbread as you obviously has an excuse, you also seem to have a problem with WA, why would that be? I am sorry if I come accross uneducated...... oh hang on no I am not, go eff yourself. Yes I digress but if you think you are better than me and you have the audacity to attack me personaly then my comments are all you deserve. :wallywink
Like I said I supported Edwards and he has shown nothing but if he gets up great and good luck to him, he has until the end of the year IMO, by the way a hell of a lot of posters agree regarding Edwards. So take your highly educated behind the eff out of my face and shove it in theirs.
WAT, it's not that I think I am better than you, it's just that it is hard to respect your opinion about Edwards when you say things like
He is a god VFL player at best.
How do you know that? You live in WA ffs!
William Powell for instance attends most Coburg games and usually posts his match reports when he gets home. If he said Edwards was toast then I would have some respect for it because he is out there freezing his cods off and watching them every week. You would have to admit that you are merely an armchair critic.
you also seem to have a problem with WA
And by the way, I have nothing at all against Western Australia, but having said that, if Indonesia ever decided to annex Perth to their archipelago, which they could easily do, it wouldn't bother me in the slightest, nor would it if WA decided to declare independence from Aust and form it's own republic, good luck to them, who cares.
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Stick to the topic and stop with the personal sniping >:( :banghead
Ok Wp fair enough. I'll stick to that so long as you stop avoiding your own swear filter rule ;D ;D
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Goodnight DC (should use the initials more often), you are just right about everthing and thats it.... :sleep :sleep
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A message has been sent this week :clapping :bow
Won't miss any of the players dropped, especially boofhead Bowden
:gotigers
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Great selections, especially Edwards, TW did not know how to use him, now that JR has put in a bit more pace in the side, watch Edwards come into his own.
:gotigers
I'm with you Dallas, I like Edwards, he was exciting in his debut year, then had his development stunted under Wallace. :clapping
who didnt? :banghead
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Goodnight DC (should use the initials more often), you are just right about everthing and thats it.... :sleep :sleep
Hey, you have had a fair crack at some longstading and respected posters on this forum since you have joined it. There is nothing wrong with that- Just have some evidence of what you are saying, For example, instead of bagging fringe coburg players, give us some news on some up and coming Wa youngsters that you have seen, It would be a much better contribution to this forum than the pot shots that you keep taking at our Victorian compadres.
Is that fair ?
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Goodnight DC (should use the initials more often), you are just right about everthing and thats it.... :sleep :sleep
Hey, you have had a fair crack at some longstading and respected posters on this forum since you have joined it. There is nothing wrong with that- Just have some evidence of what you are saying, For example, instead of bagging fringe coburg players, give us some news on some up and coming Wa youngsters that you have seen, It would be a much better contribution to this forum than the pot shots that you keep taking at our Victorian compadres.
Is that fair ?
Look mate I couldnt give a poo if you or your compadres are from the North Pole, I am Australian so don't start on the WA/Vic crap with me that you resorted to, as have others on this forum. I give as good as I take don't worry about that, the people I have had a go at on this forum are the habitual Coach and or player baggers.
Yes we all are entitled to our say but a lot of the rubbish I read prior to Wallace leaving was personaly directed at him and I found that offensive so I reacted.
"Fair" is backing this club, the players and each other up as supporters, but typically Richmond we are too busy degrading each other. I read many many forums as well as all reports on every Coburg game including WP's. I have never heard very many good words said about the way Edwards plays and when he is in the main side he has let us down just about every time. I have read one good report from Rawlings on EOTT on the RFC web site regarding Edwards. So aside from not seeing the Coburg game live I have taken on board what I have read, heard and seen of him on TV.
I will do what I can regarding the WAFL but being 1,700 k's from Perth it makes it hard to get there every wekend, I am sure you can understand why. When the games are on TV they coinside with the AFL so thats difficult as well. But I will see what I can do.
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Edwards should be played as a half-forward. He's too small to be a defender. It never made sense that Terry made changes over summer to what was a settling back 6 in 2008.
I'm happy with the changes although it appears Joel was dropped due to his birthdate rather than form. Anyway a statement has been made that we are looking at 2010 and beyond so I can't complain with that. Probably also says the 5 outs won't be around next year while Cuz will get another year. If Browny wasn't injured and in the side it would've be interesting to see what decision Jade would've made with him.
Those boys will run out of puff before the end
Maybe that's the plan :whistle
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Edwards should be played as a half-forward. He's too small to be a defender. It never made sense that Terry made changes over summer to what was a settling back 6 in 2008.
Then I don't know whats going on, when I read the Rawlings report on EOTT about Edwards where he said it was the best game he played, guess where he played........... backline.... go figure.
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Yes we all are entitled to our say but a lot of the rubbish I read prior to Wallace leaving was personaly directed at him and I found that offensive so I reacted.
That's cool, I felt the same way when you rolled your eyes at Edwards.
the people I have had a go at on this forum are the habitual Coach and or player baggers.
With all due respect WAT you are falling into that category yourself now with Edwards and this thread is proof of it.
I will do what I can regarding the WAFL but being 1,700 k's from Perth it makes it hard to get there every wekend, I am sure you can understand why. When the games are on TV they coinside with the AFL so thats difficult as well. But I will see what I can do.
Roger that. Didn't realise you were so far away from the action.
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I'm so pleased JR didnt bring in Schultz. :clapping I can only hope he never does. :pray
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Yes we all are entitled to our say but a lot of the rubbish I read prior to Wallace leaving was personaly directed at him and I found that offensive so I reacted.
That's cool, I felt the same way when you rolled your eyes at Edwards.
the people I have had a go at on this forum are the habitual Coach and or player baggers.
With all due respect WAT you are falling into that category yourself now with Edwards and this thread is proof of it.
I will do what I can regarding the WAFL but being 1,700 k's from Perth it makes it hard to get there every wekend, I am sure you can understand why. When the games are on TV they coinside with the AFL so thats difficult as well. But I will see what I can do.
Roger that. Didn't realise you were so far away from the action.
I did not have a go at Edwards personaly, it was based on what I have seen and read about his footbal skills, which I had a say on. I can honestly say that I have not bagged any other player and that is something I am proud of.
But like I also said, I hope it works out for him and for us and I will admit if I was wrong, but we will have to wait for that.
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I can't believe Bowden is out of the side
I'm off to do a happy dance ;D ;D ;D
Simmo out is just a bonus
such a silly thing to say.
Simmo being used in the same breath as Bowden.
Give me a break Simmo is nowhere near the player Bowden was.
Garbage, Simmonds was structurally one of our more important players, if not our most important
Our decline this year has plenty to do with Simmo's lack of form
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Infamy, Simmo has never dominated the ruck, at best he draws even with his opponent- and he not once has even done that this season.
Tuck has been more effective in the ruck this year than Simmo.
How is that structurally important?
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Infamy, Simmo has never dominated the ruck, at best he draws even with his opponent- and he not once has even done that this season.
Tuck has been more effective in the ruck this year than Simmo.
How is that structurally important?
totally agree dallasC
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Richmonds most experienced players in Rd 12
1) Ben Cousins....243 games
2) Chris Newman....144 games
3) Shane Tuck....102 games
4) Brett Deledio...95 games
5)Richard Tambling....84 games
6) Nathan Foley....81 games
Could not be happier with the strong message made by the RFC today.
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Five dumped by Rawlings
Martin Boulton and Steve Butler | June 12, 2009
Richmond's football operations manager Ross Monaghan denied there was anything sinister in the axings and said there was still a future for the five players at the club.
"I'm sure if they're prepared to work hard and set their mind to it, they'll work their way back into the side," he told The Age last night.
"We had five players that really deserved an opportunity to be in the side."
He said Bowden, Simmonds and Coughlan, who only returned in round five after missing almost three years with serious knee and hamstring injuries, could all play again this season.
Unlike Johnson, who retired from playing this week and stepped into a development role, McMahon (five games this year) and Pettifer (four games), continue to be available, Monaghan said.
"It just so happens that the guys who missed out are guys who probably haven't been in their best form," he said. "They're all great characters who know what they're about, they know the footy business and the ups and downs.
"Sides each week are selected on form … there's no particular theme and there's nothing sinister, it's just the normal selection process that we normally go through."
He said Rawlings had brought a different selection perspective on players he was coaching at Coburg, but the changes had been agreed on jointly by the match committee.
In the wake of Wallace's departure, speculation has grown about the future of Ben Cousins, Matthew Richardson, Nathan Brown, Bowden and Simmonds, who are all over 30 years old. Coughlan and McMahon are both 27. Cousins is the only player in the team to play the Eagles who is over 30.
President Gary March said last week he expects Richardson, who is recovering from a hamstring injury, to play later in the season and to continue playing next year.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/five-dumped-by-rawlings/2009/06/11/1244664795155.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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wayne is that an image created by the band tool being used as your display picture?? (im not sure of the age range here but tool are amazing)
can i just ask, why is there such adoration for edwards here? he is a good VFL player, that is it. he dosent have the size, awareness or skill to make it as genuine AFL player.
And on cogs being slow, im sorry but he could walk the entire game and show more than most.
last week he had 21 touches and NINE tackles, thats more than delidio, cotchin, tambiling, collins and mcmahon combined
i kinda rate toughness, heart and smart ball use over wishy washy speedsters..
Yeah it's from Lateralus.
I thought Edwards showed some good signs early, but wasn't used properly by Wallace. His first game was good I thought, and remember he destroyed Essendon one night, would have had 5-6 goals if he kicked straight.
11 weeks to go, we'll see if some players are out and out duds, or if some weren't used properly by Wallace and start to bloom without him.
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In: Vickery, Edwards, Nahas, Graham, Hislop
Out: Joel Bowden, Troy Simmonds, Mark Coughlan, Jordan McMahon, Kayne Pettifer
this is the worst at the selection table l ever seen & the start of the biggest downfall in the clubs history
all that experience gone for a hand full of games & skinny kids like Edwards please
bringing in Edwards & Hislop must be a joke
Dropping Bowden :o how can you drop a player who has been in good form :banghead
Richmond going the tank for sure they dont want to win games & the Eagles will smash them
Richmond are a complete joke of a club this year, the comedy really strikes me
Good luck to Vickery
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if he kicked straight.
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Thats what I am saying about Edwards, he just can't kick straight, even field passing he can't hit his targets.
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In: Vickery, Edwards, Nahas, Graham, Hislop
Out: Joel Bowden, Troy Simmonds, Mark Coughlan, Jordan McMahon, Kayne Pettifer
this is the worst at the selection table l ever seen & the start of the biggest downfall in the clubs history
all that experience gone for a hand full of games & skinny kids like Edwards please
bringing in Edwards & Hislop must be a joke
Dropping Bowden :o how can you drop a player who has been in good form :banghead
Richmond going the tank for sure they dont want to win games & the Eagles will smash them
Richmond are a complete joke of a club this year, the comedy really strikes me
Good luck to Vickery
Well I don't believe I am saying this and I may need to slap myself in the face but I do agree with most of your points TM. Like I said in many other posts, too many changes too quickly and for less experienced weaker players. Appart from Vickery of course and yes good luck to him again.
But ok it's done now so we need to back them in and hope they can rise to the occasion, this game will test the spirits of these players both physically and mentally more so than any other game this year IMO.
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Well I don't believe I am saying this and I may need to slap myself in the face but I do agree with most of your points TM. Like I said in many other posts, too many changes too quickly and for less experienced weaker players. Appart from Vickery of course and yes good luck to him again.
Might be because they are better suited to the new game plan? ;D ;D ;D
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Well I don't believe I am saying this and I may need to slap myself in the face but I do agree with most of your points TM. Like I said in many other posts, too many changes too quickly and for less experienced weaker players. Appart from Vickery of course and yes good luck to him again.
Might be because they are better suited to the new game plan? ;D ;D ;D
Ah good morning my old foe, no doubt that is why they are in, no doubt at all, with the same game plan under a new coach.. :thumbsup I just hope the poor buggers can run the game out and still execute the game plan at the same time.
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Stop your sooking TM and WAT.
Simmonds - Too slow and lost his leap, finished. Simple as that. Get Gus in has been the better ruckmen all year anyway!
Bowden - How successful have we been while Bowden has played at the club? He's been a great servent but it's time to see how other player go when they start stringing 4,5 even 10 games together. Connors has only played 10 career games, I'd like to see what he does after 4 or 5 in a row.
Get the old out, Pettifer and McMahon wont be playing next year, either will Simmonds or Bowden. All 4 pose no positives to playing this year.
You can argue Joel leadership is needed but I'd like to see Luke McGuane stand up and play the leadership role Joel has played for 10+ years.
Running a club is all about coming together and making compromised majority decisions. I'm sure a few people wanted Coughlan in the side as well as Joel but the majority comprised that this is the direction we want to head in and thus its the right call.
Move on gentlemen.
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there is more to players outs than just playing football ;D Several players have issues with the club ;D
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Stop your sooking TM and WAT.
Simmonds - Too slow and lost his leap, finished. Simple as that. Get Gus in has been the better ruckmen all year anyway!
been telling you all year Simmonds is retiring end of season & maybe before l agree with his out
Bowden - How successful have we been while Bowden has played at the club? He's been a great servent but it's time to see how other player go when they start stringing 4,5 even 10 games together. Connors has only played 10 career games, I'd like to see what he does after 4 or 5 in a row.
Bowden has been in good form & you dont drop players who are still contributing
Conners is not a team player & is selfish thats why he cant get a game & his ego has crashed landed
Get the old out, Pettifer and McMahon wont be playing next year, either will Simmonds or Bowden. All 4 pose no positives to playing this year.
Told Pettifier to his face some years back his not a AFL player so that dont worry me about him & McMahon l never supported him ever his always been a 1million loser
You can argue Joel leadership is needed but I'd like to see Luke McGuane stand up and play the leadership role Joel has played for 10+ years.
McGuane leadership haha fuckoff his opponant does more damage every week with him being caught out up the ground on turnovers, trys to outmark power forwards thats smart
Running a club is all about coming together and making compromised majority decisions. I'm sure a few people wanted Coughlan in the side as well as Joel but the majority comprised that this is the direction we want to head in and thus its the right call.
will let you know what l found out this morning about whats really going on down at Tigerland with unhappy players now you think they all bonding ;D & are out because they are dropped or injured. think the club will burn soon
Move on gentlemen.
Hope that helps
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there is more to players outs than just playing football ;D Several players have issues with the club ;D
Stop being an agent provocateur, TM
Unless of course you want to name the players and the issues.
Boring :sleep
Getting my Palmolive now :rollin
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dont care if you dont beleive me Moi, l'm not a Hutchy ;D l'm a Richmond supporter who tells it as it is. Big leaks when people aint happy.
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dont care if you dont beleive me Moi, l'm not a Hutchy ;D l'm a Richmond supporter who tells it as it is. Big leaks when people aint happy.
If you really cared, darl, you'd fire off an email to the club and tell them what you know. And then we can stuff them off as well as the ones dropped last night ;D
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dont care if you dont beleive me Moi, l'm not a Hutchy ;D l'm a Richmond supporter who tells it as it is. Big leaks when people aint happy.
If you really cared, darl, you'd fire off an email to the club and tell them what you know. And then we can eff them off as well as the ones dropped last night ;D
;D darl gee l like that ;D like to tell you first :lol so you can email them sweety ;D
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dont care if you dont beleive me Moi, l'm not a Hutchy ;D l'm a Richmond supporter who tells it as it is. Big leaks when people aint happy.
It's obvious your close to Joel Bowden, thats fine and happy to see this as I've enjoyed seeing Joel play win best and fairest and win All Australians.
Whether its Joel you've talked to or not that is unhappy etc is irrelevant, but disappointing that leaks occur cause men can't be professional.
Will be fixed next year.
Gone:
Bowden
Johnson
Brown
Simmonds
McMahon
Pettifer
Simple as that. See if the leaks still occur with these gone. Can't be disappointed and leaking when your sitting at home watching it on the TV.
TM you say its the worst selections you've seen all year and we are going to burn. Your just flipping out because Joel has been dropped.
You've agreed with every selection except Bowden. Doesn't really add up.
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Its always hard to come to terms with a club stalwart such as Joel being put in the category of over the hill. He has been a great player for the tigers but of late he no longer poses a threat to opposition teams. Yes he has been racking up the possessions but this is where statistics dont provide the full truth, alot of his possessions are sideways chips, not including hard running to provide an attacking option. Rawlings i believe has been given a mandate to instill a more direct uncomplicated attacking style of gameplay, unfortunately i dont believe Joel's mindset and aging body is suitable to such an approach.
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dont care if you dont beleive me Moi, l'm not a Hutchy ;D l'm a Richmond supporter who tells it as it is. Big leaks when people aint happy.
It's obvious your close to Joel Bowden, thats fine and happy to see this as I've enjoyed seeing Joel play win best and fairest and win All Australians.
Whether its Joel you've talked to or not that is unhappy etc is irrelevant, but disappointing that leaks occur cause men can't be professional.
Will be fixed next year.
Gone:
Bowden
Johnson
Brown
Simmonds
McMahon
Pettifer
Simple as that. See if the leaks still occur with these gone. Can't be disappointed and leaking when your sitting at home watching it on the TV.
TM you say its the worst selections you've seen all year and we are going to burn. Your just flipping out because Joel has been dropped.
You've agreed with every selection except Bowden. Doesn't really add up.
no popelord l'm flipping out at all the experience been taken out of a side at that level & being replace with skinny crap like Edwards who will break in half oneday
would expect jake king to get a game before him to add some blood & guts that the team requires.
Yes l'm friends with most the players & past players, open & closed the door myself a few times. that you wont find out on here ;D
oh l'm close to more younger players than the older troops BTW & gee them lads can talk branches off trees ;D
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dont care if you dont beleive me Moi, l'm not a Hutchy ;D l'm a Richmond supporter who tells it as it is. Big leaks when people aint happy.
It's obvious your close to Joel Bowden, thats fine and happy to see this as I've enjoyed seeing Joel play win best and fairest and win All Australians.
Whether its Joel you've talked to or not that is unhappy etc is irrelevant, but disappointing that leaks occur cause men can't be professional.
Will be fixed next year.
Gone:
Bowden
Johnson
Brown
Simmonds
McMahon
Pettifer
Simple as that. See if the leaks still occur with these gone. Can't be disappointed and leaking when your sitting at home watching it on the TV.
TM you say its the worst selections you've seen all year and we are going to burn. Your just flipping out because Joel has been dropped.
You've agreed with every selection except Bowden. Doesn't really add up.
no popelord l'm flipping out at all the experience been taken out of a side at that level & being replace with skinny crap like Edwards who will break in half oneday
would expect jake king to get a game before him to add some blood & guts that the team requires.
Yes l'm friends with most the players & past players, open & closed the door myself a few times. that you wont find out on here ;D
oh l'm close to more younger players than the older troops BTW & gee them lads can talk branches off trees ;D
:rollin
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Its always hard to come to terms with a club stalwart such as Joel being put in the category of over the hill. He has been a great player for the tigers but of late he no longer poses a threat to opposition teams. Yes he has been racking up the possessions but this is where statistics dont provide the full truth, alot of his possessions are sideways chips, not including hard running to provide an attacking option. Rawlings i believe has been given a mandate to instill a more direct uncomplicated attacking style of gameplay, unfortunately i dont believe Joel's mindset and aging body is suitable to such an approach.
ever thought Joel has to play the way he does because he has no better option up field when the other players aint doing the hard running
he hits his targets most times & you find its the other players who turn it over more often
Joel did however have a few bad turnovers last game 2 bad ones that resulted in goals but where did all the others come from
first half he had 18 damaging possies & worked his ass off. now if you drop a player for that, we may as well not watch football cause thats why they got yellow bellies
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TM I have no interest in how close you are to players, we all love our club and have ties with some form of the club.
You didn't answer my question you've exaggerated over teh selections just cause Joel got dropped, you agree with everyone else?
The expeerience we've lost....
Simmonds - what experience, has never tasted success. Has been an average ruckman that looks good cause he's been rucking 100% of game time for 5 years.
McMahon - Younger and has played more games than Shane Tuck. May be more experienced but Tuck, expereince means nothing TM.
Pettifer - Please.
Bowden - Agree, as I mentioned before his leadership may be a big loss but Joel's leadership and experience has got us no where.. Lets try something new. Just cause it's his last year he shouldn't be given a free ride, he's lost his consistancy.
As far as development goes I don't like seeing a 32 year old veteran stuffing up and costing the club goals while the youngsters try and mop up his mistakes. Amount of games played means nothing if you can't portray expereince on field.
Best example is how James Hird did it in his twilight years and how Cousins is doing it now. Joel doesn't do this.
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Understand fully where you are coming from TM, Joel's last game during any normal season would see him one of the first picked the following week and there no doubt we will miss his experience. I suppose the key issue here is that obviously Rawlings has been told to bring youth into the side and no better time to make a statement to supporters than this week, the next 11 weeks are basically an audition for next season. We have well and truly seen what Joel is and is not capable of (along with four of his mates), its now time to see what the kids can do. From reading other posts it appears that he is not banished forever, he does have the opportunity to make his way back into the team. Whether this will be very late in the season which may be in the form of "appreciation" games only time will tell. In the short term we need to display to the new coach who will be watching with interest, what the quality of our list is. The draft is going to be extremely important to us and we don't want to make our normal recruiting mistakes again. The second half of this season will definitely signal the end of a few careers but it will also provide some insight to our future, lets hope we get it right for once. :)
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Dropping Bowden :o how can you drop a player who has been in good form :banghead
Richmond going the tank for sure they dont want to win games & the Eagles will smash them
Bowden survived a couple of times after a couple of shocker games.
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Understand fully where you are coming from TM, Joel's last game during any normal season would see him one of the first picked the following week and there no doubt we will miss his experience. I suppose the key issue here is that obviously Rawlings has been told to bring youth into the side and no better time to make a statement to supporters than this week, the next 11 weeks are basically an audition for next season. We have well and truly seen what Joel is and is not capable of (along with four of his mates), its now time to see what the kids can do. From reading other posts it appears that he is not banished forever, he does have the opportunity to make his way back into the team. Whether this will be very late in the season which may be in the form of "appreciation" games only time will tell. In the short term we need to display to the new coach who will be watching with interest, what the quality of our list is. The draft is going to be extremely important to us and we don't want to make our normal recruiting mistakes again. The second half of this season will definitely signal the end of a few careers but it will also provide some insight to our future, lets hope we get it right for once. :)
Nothing will sell the club better to a prospective coach then blooded youngsters having a crack. Best time to do it against a team that is tanking.
Go Tigz!
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l'm a Richmond supporter who tells it as it is.
LmFafO!
Yeh Rite,as it is in ur simple mind.
Go Joel!!!!
:clapping
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lets all try to be rockstars hey :lol :lol :lol
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lets all try to be rockstars hey :lol :lol :lol
Yeah, like Kiss :D
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Stop your sooking TM and WAT.
??? ??? ???. Not sure who is sooking here Pope, I had my say on why I think they sould be in and now you are having your say on why they shouldn't???? You may need to move on to!!!
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Five axed Tigers have a future, says Rawlings
By Mic Cullen 11:46 AM Fri 12 June, 2009
RICHMOND caretaker coach Jade Rawlings says despite dropping five players for Saturday night's clash against West Coast, not one has had a line put though his name.
Rawlings and the match committee omitted nearly 800 games of experience for the round 12 match-up at Docklands, but the new coach said nothing sinister or long-term should be read into the selections.
Joel Bowden, Jordie McMahon, Troy Simmonds, Mark Coughlan and Kayne Pettifer were all axed.
But Rawlings said on Friday ahead of training at Punt Road he had talked extensively with all concerned and no problems existed with any of them.
Bowden in particular has been getting extensive support from Richmond supporters and members on talkback radio, and Rawlings said he understood where people were coming from.
"He's been an icon of the club, he's been fantastic," Rawlings said at Punt Rd on Thursday.
"I totally understand why he's got plenty of support – I'd be disappointed for him if there wasn't some support.
"It's been over probably a month – he's been on the borderline once or twice this year already, and to his credit he's fought back really well.
"He can easily generate the ball, he's shown that, but there's just some elements of his game he needs to tighten up."
Mark Coughlan is also back at Coburg again this week, but Rawlings was quick make the point that he was still expecting the 2003 best-and-fairest winner to be playing next year.
"He's a very optimistic sort of guy. We haven't spoken about next year, but I'm sure he thinks it, and I think it as well.
"He has been outstanding in where he's got himself back to – there was a lot of doubt after last year with what he went through as to whether he'd be able to get back at all.
"Somewhere that improvement has to plateau and it's probably just come to that at the moment."
Despite coming up against the league's top ruckman in Dean Cox, Rawlings said he was comfortable going in with youngsters in the ruck.
"Simmo (Simmonds) hasn't had a great couple of weeks, and after discussing it with him, he was prepared to try and push and fight to play this week.
"But once it was put to him it was going to be a struggle, he then revealed to me a couple of injuries, a couple of sore spots that he had.
"We've had three good chats this week about his next 10 to 12 weeks, and what's going to be best for him to be able to play the way he wants to play and give him a chance to fight for his career post-2009."
Rawlings said all the players coming back in were either returning from injury or had been playing well at Coburg, so there was no change for the sake of change.
Exclusive to AFL BigPond Network
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/78695/default.aspx
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this is the worst at the selection table l ever seen & the start of the biggest downfall in the clubs history
all that experience gone for a hand full of games & skinny kids like Edwards please
At the start of spring you need to cut the lawn really short so nice lush regrowth takes on.
Bring on that lawnmower
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this is the worst at the selection table l ever seen & the start of the biggest downfall in the clubs history
all that experience gone for a hand full of games & skinny kids like Edwards please
At the start of spring you need to cut the lawn really short so nice lush regrowth takes on.
Bring on that lawnmower
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Yes but if you cut it half way through spring it dies off!!
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Stop your sooking TM and WAT.
??? ??? ???. Not sure who is sooking here Pope, I had my say on why I think they sould be in and now you are having your say on why they shouldn't???? You may need to move on to!!!
We've had a horrid start we've whinged enough lets focus on something different instead of all the things we're unhappy with. The club has been gutsy enough to change to see what happens, no one can predict the future.
I'm greatful the club did something.
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Stop your sooking TM and WAT.
??? ??? ???. Not sure who is sooking here Pope, I had my say on why I think they sould be in and now you are having your say on why they shouldn't???? You may need to move on to!!!
We've had a horrid start we've whinged enough lets focus on something different instead of all the things we're unhappy with. The club has been gutsy enough to change to see what happens, no one can predict the future.
I'm greatful the club did something.
Jolly good idea chum.
I just think they did too much in one week!
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I'm greatful the club did something.
Agree
I reckon the majoirty is happy because for the first time in a long time we are trying to do something different rather than falling back ont he "same old, same old".
People have benn crying out for the kids to be played; finally it's happening. :gotigers
For me at least the result tomorrow night becomes almost secondary, seeing the kids on display is what I am nost looking forward too
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I'm greatful the club did something.
For me at least the result tomorrow night becomes almost secondary, seeing the kids on display is what I am nost looking forward too
How can you say that WP, so you would be happy to see the kids play and we get smashed, completely crushing the kids spirits (not that you said that but it could happen). I am all for change and I love watching the kids coming through but I believe it has to be introduced gradualy, these changes could have been made over 2 to 3 weeks to encourage kids like Vickery to play more attacking football then defencive football which he may have to do.
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How can you say that WP, so you would be happy to see the kids play and we get smashed, completely crushing the kids spirits (not that you said that but it could happen). I am all for change and I love watching the kids coming through but I believe it has to be introduced gradualy, these changes could have been made over 2 to 3 weeks to encourage kids like Vickery to play more attacking football then defencive football which he may have to do.
WAT - firstly I think we will win. And I reckon that win will come on the back of these kids, their enthusiasim, passion and desrie to succeed. I also think we are going to win a few more games before the season is out. Actually I wouldn't be surprised if we win more than lose on the stretch home.
You say the changes could have been over a 2-3 week period, I actually think some of these changes should have happened over the last 2-3 weeks. Why isn't important
Simmonds - forms been woeful for a month
Pettifer - was found wanting last week with the speed of the game and he was ordinary against Freo
McMahon - why he was there last week beggars belief
Coughlan - I think I've been very very clear on my thoughts there
Bowden J - is perhaps the unlucky one but the call's been made
And finally, the 2nd half last week was the most insipid and disappointing of 2009 by a long long way and let's be honest - 2009 has been a disaster.
But by not making changes means we accept last weeks 2nd half and quite frankly I don't.
The season that promised so much is shot ... I want to salvage something
I have always wanted to see the kids played and if we are going have that opportunity then that's great
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I'm greatful the club did something.
For me at least the result tomorrow night becomes almost secondary, seeing the kids on display is what I am nost looking forward too
How can you say that WP, so you would be happy to see the kids play and we get smashed, completely crushing the kids spirits (not that you said that but it could happen). I am all for change and I love watching the kids coming through but I believe it has to be introduced gradualy, these changes could have been made over 2 to 3 weeks to encourage kids like Vickery to play more attacking football then defencive football which he may have to do.
I think despite the changes we are a good show against the tanking Eagles......
Next 3 weeks after that...Saints/Crows/Blues.....Very likely we are going to get smashed whether we have Bowden,Cogs ETC in the team or not.
Whats the worst that can happen.......a 50pt loss becomes a 70pt loss....who cares.
Let the planning for 2010 begin....the sooner the better.
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How can you say that WP, so you would be happy to see the kids play and we get smashed, completely crushing the kids spirits (not that you said that but it could happen). I am all for change and I love watching the kids coming through but I believe it has to be introduced gradualy, these changes could have been made over 2 to 3 weeks to encourage kids like Vickery to play more attacking football then defencive football which he may have to do.
WAT - firstly I think we will win. And I reckon that win will come on the back of these kids, their enthusiasim, passion and desrie to succeed. I also think we are going to win a few more games before the season is out. Actually I wouldn't be surprised if we win more than lose on the stretch home.
You say the changes could have been over a 2-3 week period, I actually think some of these changes should have happened over the last 2-3 weeks. Why isn't important
Simmonds - forms been woeful for a month
Pettifer - was found wanting last week with the speed of the game and he was ordinary against Freo
McMahon - why he was there last week beggars belief
Coughlan - I think I've been very very clear on my thoughts there
Bowden J - is perhaps the unlucky one but the call's been made
And finally, the 2nd half last week was the most insipid and disappointing of 2009 by a long long way and let's be honest - 2009 has been a disaster.
But by not making changes means we accept last weeks 2nd half and quite frankly I don't.
The season that promised so much is shot ... I want to salvage something
I have always wanted to see the kids played and if we are going have that opportunity then that's great
Very good post WP, I would love to see the big Vicker of Dibbley sing that song after his first game and I agree that those changes should have been made earlier that way they could have been intorduced at a manageable rate instead of all at once. I am only worried about the out of puff factor, we should win but the Eagles actually have a strong fit side with something like 8-9 premiership players in the side. Big bodies verse kids, ah well what will be will be. GO TIGES!!
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I'm greatful the club did something.
For me at least the result tomorrow night becomes almost secondary, seeing the kids on display is what I am nost looking forward too
How can you say that WP, so you would be happy to see the kids play and we get smashed, completely crushing the kids spirits (not that you said that but it could happen). I am all for change and I love watching the kids coming through but I believe it has to be introduced gradualy, these changes could have been made over 2 to 3 weeks to encourage kids like Vickery to play more attacking football then defencive football which he may have to do.
We just got PUMPED BY 10 GOALS!
How can you not see that Simmonds and Bowden is not working??
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I'm greatful the club did something.
For me at least the result tomorrow night becomes almost secondary, seeing the kids on display is what I am nost looking forward too
How can you say that WP, so you would be happy to see the kids play and we get smashed, completely crushing the kids spirits (not that you said that but it could happen). I am all for change and I love watching the kids coming through but I believe it has to be introduced gradualy, these changes could have been made over 2 to 3 weeks to encourage kids like Vickery to play more attacking football then defencive football which he may have to do.
I think despite the changes we are a good show against the tanking Eagles......
Next 3 weeks after that...Saints/Crows/Blues.....Very likely we are going to get smashed whether we have Bowden,Cogs ETC in the team or not.
Whats the worst that can happen.......a 50pt loss becomes a 70pt loss....who cares.
Let the planning for 2010 begin....the sooner the better.
Here Here.
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You wouldnt believe it either, my son has been selected to represent our town and another town combined to play a bigger town in football on Saturday. Yes saturday, it's a 3 hour drive there and 3 back so I will miss the game, we won't get home until about 10 at night so I will have to record it and watch it later that night or early next day.
So no posts from me until Sunday, oh well, family life!!
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I'm greatful the club did something.
For me at least the result tomorrow night becomes almost secondary, seeing the kids on display is what I am nost looking forward too
How can you say that WP, so you would be happy to see the kids play and we get smashed, completely crushing the kids spirits (not that you said that but it could happen). I am all for change and I love watching the kids coming through but I believe it has to be introduced gradualy, these changes could have been made over 2 to 3 weeks to encourage kids like Vickery to play more attacking football then defencive football which he may have to do.
We just got PUMPED BY 10 GOALS!
How can you not see that Simmonds and Bowden is not working??
The whole team is not working at the moment Popelord, don't make comments now on the back of one game about those two players. What happened in round 1 WE GOT PUMPED BY OVER 80 POINTS??? I have never said that Simmonds should be kept in either so get your facts right, all I said is I believed we should have at least kept Bowden & Cogs while we introduce these new players.
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Not sure how anyone can have a problem with any of the outs
Bowden is a liability to the side and should have retired long ago
Simmonds due to injury, form, age or all of the above has been due to be dropped for weeks now and was lucky to even get a recall, he should retire also
The only disappointing thing about Bowden, Simmo, McMahon & Pettifer being dropped is that is didn't happen earlier
As someone who rates Coughlan, I think he was a little hard done by, however clearly there is reasoning behind it. Hopefully someone steps up to replace his intensity at the stoppages.
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Gee
can't believe some on this forum fair dinkum
Its about time the club took its medicine, I for one am pleasantly suprised it has the courage to do it now.
I think Craig Cameron and the football department have started acting like the professionals and long term thinkers I have always wanted them to be.
We have to see who can make it as an AFL footballer from our list. The best way to judge that is to play senior afl football. The future is not Pettifer Bowden Simmons Brown KJ Richo. I am very comfortable with the fact that none of them are playing this week.
I can even live with us not getting a priority pick if it is on the back of youngsters playing well, as opposed to washed up finished hacks.
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Let me put this one out there to most of you that attend the Coburg games. Why was Hislop selected over Thompson please for this game please. I have read more reports including the Rawlings report on EOTT that suggest Thompson is travelling better that Hislop??
Just asking so please do not take this question out of context!!!!!!
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Simmo (Simmonds) hasn't had a great couple of weeks, and after discussing it with him, he was prepared to try and push and fight to play this week.
"But once it was put to him it was going to be a struggle, he then revealed to me a couple of injuries, a couple of sore spots that he had.
...did I here that Simmo was prepared to try and push for slection until JR told him he had to fight to get in, then he revealed a couple of injuries???? WHATS wrong with him? Does he have a boo boo???
Poor baby!!
WHAT A WOOS!!! JR should never let this guy to play in yellow & black ever again!
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Simmo (Simmonds) hasn't had a great couple of weeks, and after discussing it with him, he was prepared to try and push and fight to play this week.
"But once it was put to him it was going to be a struggle, he then revealed to me a couple of injuries, a couple of sore spots that he had.
...did I here that Simmo was prepared to try and push for slection until JR told him he had to fight to get in, then he revealed a couple of injuries???? WHATS wrong with him? Does he have a boo boo???
Poor baby!!
WHAT A WOOS!!! JR should never let this guy to play in yellow & black ever again!
See now this is the sort of player criticism I despise...... your comments are not based on football or his current form, it is a direct personal insult refering to him as a child. It must be easy to do this seeing you are a champion AFL player... :banghead
There is a difference between personal insults and criticising form.
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Let me put this one out there to most of you that attend the Coburg games. Why was Hislop selected over Thompson please for this game please. I have read more reports including the Rawlings report on EOTT that suggest Thompson is travelling better that Hislop??
Just asking so please do not take this question out of context!!!!!!
I will admit I am genuinely surprised that Hislop has got a game this time round before Thomson. Thompson deserve a chance to show what he has got..
Only reason I can think of is the fact that defensively (READ - tackling) Hislop is very very good
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Let me put this one out there to most of you that attend the Coburg games. Why was Hislop selected over Thompson please for this game please. I have read more reports including the Rawlings report on EOTT that suggest Thompson is travelling better that Hislop??
Just asking so please do not take this question out of context!!!!!!
I will admit I am genuinely surprised that Hislop has got a game this time round before Thomson. Thompson deserve a chance to show what he has got..
Only reason I can think of is the fact that defensively (READ - tackling) Hislop is very very good
Thats why I couldn't understand why he was dropped in the early part of the season, if he did nothing else in the games I saw him in his tackling was insperational.
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In: Vickery, Edwards, Nahas, Graham, Hislop
Out: Joel Bowden, Troy Simmonds, Mark Coughlan, Jordan McMahon, Kayne Pettifer
this is the worst at the selection table l ever seen & the start of the biggest downfall in the clubs history
all that experience gone for a hand full of games & skinny kids like Edwards please
bringing in Edwards & Hislop must be a joke
Dropping Bowden :o how can you drop a player who has been in good form :banghead
Richmond going the tank for sure they dont want to win games & the Eagles will smash them
Richmond are a complete joke of a club this year, the comedy really strikes me
Good luck to Vickery
hahahahah - no worries dooschebag.
Another of the Richmond illuminatti........ :wallywink
Joel is the best! :thumbsup
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l'm tired of going over the same things constantly here with the same people so this will be my last post. :thumbsup
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l'm tired of going over the same things constantly here with the same people so this will be my last post. :thumbsup
:nopity
:lol
Seriously though, hope life goes well for you.
'65
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l'm tired of going over the same things constantly here with the same people so this will be my last post. :thumbsup
Yeah, the rot will really set in now that you've gone lol
:rollin
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soap
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Let me put this one out there to most of you that attend the Coburg games. Why was Hislop selected over Thompson please for this game please. I have read more reports including the Rawlings report on EOTT that suggest Thompson is travelling better that Hislop??
Just asking so please do not take this question out of context!!!!!!
I will admit I am genuinely surprised that Hislop has got a game this time round before Thomson. Thompson deserve a chance to show what he has got..
Only reason I can think of is the fact that defensively (READ - tackling) Hislop is very very good
it was very line ball between sloppy and thomson,
Pettifer going out meant we needed another forward to compliment Jack Tyrone and Mitch, hence sloppy got the gig
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Brackets you made monky leave why are you such a bad bloke ;D :lol
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Out with the old in with the new? lol
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soap
;)
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Out with the old in with the new? lol
It's a tough environment footy boards
He just couldn't hack it :-*
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Out with the old in with the new? lol
It's a tough environment footy boards
He just couldn't hack it :-*
A tough environment?
You are kidding?
or is that sarcasm?
:lol
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Out with the old in with the new? lol
It's a tough environment footy boards
He just couldn't hack it :-*
A tough environment?
You are kidding?
or is that sarcasm?
:lol
Tongue firmly planted
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Bowden Out
TM out
Could there be some link here, are they the same person ie TM = Joel Bowden? ;D
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Simmo (Simmonds) hasn't had a great couple of weeks, and after discussing it with him, he was prepared to try and push and fight to play this week.
"But once it was put to him it was going to be a struggle, he then revealed to me a couple of injuries, a couple of sore spots that he had.
...did I here that Simmo was prepared to try and push for slection until JR told him he had to fight to get in, then he revealed a couple of injuries???? WHATS wrong with him? Does he have a boo boo???
Poor baby!!
WHAT A WOOS!!! JR should never let this guy to play in yellow & black ever again!
See now this is the sort of player criticism I despise...... your comments are not based on football or his current form, it is a direct personal insult refering to him as a child. It must be easy to do this seeing you are a champion AFL player... :banghead
There is a difference between personal insults and criticising form.
WA....You may be pleased with 25 years of insipid performances and constant mediocrity but I'm not.
I'm fed up with putting up with players that dont want to play for the jumper.
I'm fed up with putting up with administration that dont know what they are doing.
I'm fed up with putting up with football departments that make decisions that set the club back 5 years or more.
I'm fed up with putting up with coaches who make promises they cant keep.
I'm fed up with putting up with assistant coaches with hidden agendas.
I'm fed up with putting up with this ONCE great club being on the bottom of the ladder.
I'm fed up with putting up with every other club laughing at us every year.
This is a forum..... I can say what I feel. I agree that personal swipes between posters is unproductive but when it comes to my club I have supported for over 30years I should be able to say what I want even if it cans a player that doesnt look like he wants to be there.
I would have loved to play for this club. Swap me with Simmo any day and I'll show you what passion and commitment is all about. I love this club mate and I have seen them play a premiership. This team was the most feared team in the league. I want to see it where it used to be and that is the greatest club in the League!!!!!
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Simmo (Simmonds) hasn't had a great couple of weeks, and after discussing it with him, he was prepared to try and push and fight to play this week.
"But once it was put to him it was going to be a struggle, he then revealed to me a couple of injuries, a couple of sore spots that he had.
...did I here that Simmo was prepared to try and push for slection until JR told him he had to fight to get in, then he revealed a couple of injuries???? WHATS wrong with him? Does he have a boo boo???
Poor baby!!
WHAT A WOOS!!! JR should never let this guy to play in yellow & black ever again!
See now this is the sort of player criticism I despise...... your comments are not based on football or his current form, it is a direct personal insult refering to him as a child. It must be easy to do this seeing you are a champion AFL player... :banghead
There is a difference between personal insults and criticising form.
WA....You may be pleased with 25 years of insipid performances and constant mediocrity but I'm not.
I'm fed up with putting up with players that dont want to play for the jumper.
I'm fed up with putting up with administration that dont know what they are doing.
I'm fed up with putting up with football departments that make decisions that set the club back 5 years or more.
I'm fed up with putting up with coaches who make promises they cant keep.
I'm fed up with putting up with assistant coaches with hidden agendas.
I'm fed up with putting up with this ONCE great club being on the bottom of the ladder.
I'm fed up with putting up with every other club laughing at us every year.
This is a forum..... I can say what I feel. I agree that personal swipes between posters is unproductive but when it comes to my club I have supported for over 30years I should be able to say what I want even if it cans a player that doesnt look like he wants to be there.
I would have loved to play for this club. Swap me with Simmo any day and I'll show you what passion and commitment is all about. I love this club mate and I have seen them play a premiership. This team was the most feared team in the league. I want to see it where it used to be and that is the greatest club in the League!!!!!
Yes this is a forum and most of us are happy to take the good posters as well as the boring repetitive ones.
:thumbsup
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Simmo (Simmonds) hasn't had a great couple of weeks, and after discussing it with him, he was prepared to try and push and fight to play this week.
"But once it was put to him it was going to be a struggle, he then revealed to me a couple of injuries, a couple of sore spots that he had.
...did I here that Simmo was prepared to try and push for slection until JR told him he had to fight to get in, then he revealed a couple of injuries???? WHATS wrong with him? Does he have a boo boo???
Poor baby!!
WHAT A WOOS!!! JR should never let this guy to play in yellow & black ever again!
See now this is the sort of player criticism I despise...... your comments are not based on football or his current form, it is a direct personal insult refering to him as a child. It must be easy to do this seeing you are a champion AFL player... :banghead
There is a difference between personal insults and criticising form.
WA....You may be pleased with 25 years of insipid performances and constant mediocrity but I'm not.
I'm fed up with putting up with players that dont want to play for the jumper.
I'm fed up with putting up with administration that dont know what they are doing.
I'm fed up with putting up with football departments that make decisions that set the club back 5 years or more.
I'm fed up with putting up with coaches who make promises they cant keep.
I'm fed up with putting up with assistant coaches with hidden agendas.
I'm fed up with putting up with this ONCE great club being on the bottom of the ladder.
I'm fed up with putting up with every other club laughing at us every year.
This is a forum..... I can say what I feel. I agree that personal swipes between posters is unproductive but when it comes to my club I have supported for over 30years I should be able to say what I want even if it cans a player that doesnt look like he wants to be there.
I would have loved to play for this club. Swap me with Simmo any day and I'll show you what passion and commitment is all about. I love this club mate and I have seen them play a premiership. This team was the most feared team in the league. I want to see it where it used to be and that is the greatest club in the League!!!!!
Has TM got a new alias already? ;) :D
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Let me put this one out there to most of you that attend the Coburg games. Why was Hislop selected over Thompson please for this game please. I have read more reports including the Rawlings report on EOTT that suggest Thompson is travelling better that Hislop??
Just asking so please do not take this question out of context!!!!!!
Tell you what though WAT when Hislop tackles them they stay tackled, havent seen such a good hard tackler in quiet a while (and especially in the Y&B).
Still unsure if he can cut it in general gameplay though (although bobbing up for a couple of goals helps)
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Sigh.......... : :help