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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on July 20, 2009, 11:29:06 PM
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Story in the Herald-Sun tomorrow (Tuesday).
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clutching at straws as our PROCESS is quietly sorting them out.
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clutching at straws as our PROCESS is quietly sorting them out.
I think this process is actually quite professional or going about a process is quite professional but in all seriousness if Malthouse is available he would almost be unbeatable. Coaches like Malthouse IMHO dont need to go through a process. Bulldogs - successful at a club with no resources, West Coast- 2 premierships, Collingwood- shocking list and 2 grand finals- one of which they were unlucky to lose. Malthouse is a gun coach.
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Here's the article....
Mick Malthouse in Tigers' sights
Mark Robinson | July 21, 2009
RICHMOND is preparing to make an official move for unsigned Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse.
As interviews begin this week at Punt Rd for as many as 15 candidates, which could include Nathan Buckley, the Tigers will add Malthouse to their list of potential senior coaches if Collingwood has not made an announcement within two weeks.
Tigers officials have not contacted Malthouse or his manager Peter Sidwell.
But the drawn-out and uncertain process at Collingwood has prompted the Tigers to ascertain the possibility of Malthouse shifting camps, although they don't hold high hopes.
Richmond president Gary March last night did not dismiss the Tigers making a play for Malthouse.
"You'd have to ask Craig Cameron. He is in charge of that process," March said.
Cameron, the club's general manager of football and head of the coaching sub-committee, has not commented on the selection process or list of candidates.
"If anyone would be making an approach, Craig is heading up that and I would expect him to do it," March said.
"Our imprimatur to Craig is we would like the best available people to apply for the job and go through the process if they are available. So I would expect him to seek out any prospective coaches."
Buckley confirmed on 3AW last night he was talking to Richmond and North Melbourne about coaching in 2010, which included meeting North representatives four times in the past month.
March said candidates would be interviewed this week and the Tigers were not in competition with the Kangaroos.
"We know exactly what we want to do. I've got no idea what they're doing, but we're starting interviewing this week," March said.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25812040-19742,00.html
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and here's Caro in today's Age...
Richmond refused to rule out its former premiership defender as a coaching option, despite Malthouse remaining odds-on to get a contract extension from the Magpies.
Tigers president Gary March confirmed in a television interview last night that the club might make a direct approach to a potential coach, even if they had not applied for the senior coaching position.
"Craig Cameron has gone on record to say that we may tap someone on the shoulder or give them a phone call if they didn't put in a formal application," said March.
The Tigers are adamant they will not abandon the strict process put in place in its search to replace Terry Wallace, and March confirmed that if the club were to enter formal discussions with Malthouse then the Collingwood coach would be required to go through the interview process.
Richmond, should Malthouse become available, would offer the successful veteran a three-year deal — longer than he would receive at the Magpies.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/malthouse-welcome-at-geelong/2009/07/20/1247941876778.html
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Richmond, should Malthouse become available, would offer the successful veteran a three-year deal — longer than he would receive at the Magpies.
would be content with this
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Shades of Sheedy
All this will do is guarantee the Pies sign Mick up and we'll be out in the cold again :help
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Shades of Sheedy
All this will do is guarantee the Pies sign Mick up and we'll be out in the cold again :help
I am not quite sure about that. It has been obvious for weeks Mick will be staying at the Pies. Why they haven't signed him is the real issue IMHO. Cake and eat it too I would think with regard to Nathan B ;D
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Think about this tactically. North put pressure on Buckley to sign and we would like the option of him being available when we interview. We know that Buckley's preference would be senior coach at Collingwood. So we sow some seeds of doubt in his mind by raising the Malthouse possibility now, as Eddie has already said they won't be making a decision for a few weeks. Buckley sees the benefit to himself in waiting, we keep Buckley available for our process, all the while knowing that Malthouse is going to re-sign with Collingwood. It's all about positioning yourself behind the scenes in this type of scenario.
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I certainly don't think it's that much of a long shot. Collingwood appear to be planning for Malthouse to be replaced in 2 years, meaning even if he does resign, he'll be looking for a job after this next contract. However if he goes to Richmond now, he'll have a young list to work with, some low draft picks, a longer term contract immediately and unless there's some disaster, you'd expect at least one contract renewal, especially as our kids mature and improve.
While I'm not 100% sold on Malthouse given he hasn't won a flag in 15 years, I think the best thing that would happen from his appointment is that we would also attract some very talented assistant coaches who he would bring with him, or would want to work under him.
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I've got a bad feeling Eddie is waiting till they play us.
After they beat us ,he will annonunce the signing the next day just to rub salt in our wounds.
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I think smokey, you could be well on the money. All smoke and mirrors these rumours and innuendos. Malthouse will more than likely be resigned with the Wobbles but, if there is even a hint of truth behind the 'warming the seat for two years' senerio then we could be in for a shot with Micky.
I would take Micky over Bucks any day
Stripes
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We need someone who will take no prisoners and sort the club out. I am warming to Malthouse. I think it's in the club's best interests to at least seriously investigate this.
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We need someone who will take no prisoners and sort the club out. I am warming to Malthouse. I think it's in the club's best interests to at least seriously investigate this.
For that reason, Mick or Bucks would be a good choice. As has been said before, Bucks holds no love for the club and so wouldn't be concerned with upsetting the apple cart a bit and Mick seems like the sort of coach who simply wouldn't take crap or accept anything less than 100% effort.
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I'm someone who believes we need a younger coach who can connect with our young list rather than us being a retirement home for legendary coaches who are on the wrong side of their prime. I'd rather spend the savings between their respective salaries in recruiting and player development. So I'd prefer the Club just focuses on the process with these younger coaches. Do we also want a side that crabs along the boundary?! :-\
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I'm someone who believes we need a younger coach who can connect with our young list rather than us being a retirement home for legendary coaches who are on the wrong side of their prime. I'd rather spend the savings between their respective salaries in recruiting and player development. So I'd prefer the Club just focuses on the process with these younger coaches. Do we also want a side that crabs along the boundary?! :-\
If it gets us in the finals? Yes!
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I'm someone who believes we need a younger coach who can connect with our young list rather than us being a retirement home for legendary coaches who are on the wrong side of their prime. I'd rather spend the savings between their respective salaries in recruiting and player development. So I'd prefer the Club just focuses on the process with these younger coaches. Do we also want a side that crabs along the boundary?! :-\
If it gets us in the finals? Yes!
Finals perhaps but what about a flag - hasn't gotten the Pies a flag in the last 10 years :P
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McGuire also said he was unconcerned about potential discussions between Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse and Richmond.
"I'm the president of Collingwood. I don't worry about anyone else," he said.
"[Malthouse] is contracted. His contract is under control."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/81150/default.aspx
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At this point in time, I would just like to make the finals more than once every 15 years. So finals for four years running and being up there in contention is fine with me at this stage. I wanted our club to be hated again, not laughed at and, worst of all, pitied.
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McGuire also said he was unconcerned about potential discussions between Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse and Richmond.
"I'm the president of Collingwood. I don't worry about anyone else," he said.
"[Malthouse] is contracted. His contract is under control."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/81150/default.aspx
be wary of the decoy (mark neeld)...fast eddie wants his cake and eat it to :shh
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Interesting that it was mention today that most of the Collingwood footy dept staff was coming out of contract this year apart from Geoff Walsh. It seems the Pies are in limbo over what to do in 2010. As you say BJ and WP wanting their cake and eat it too.
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At this point in time, I would just like to make the finals more than once every 15 years. So finals for four years running and being up there in contention is fine with me at this stage. I wanted our club to be hated again, not laughed at and, worst of all, pitied.
Granted I like seeing my side win as much as any supporter, but what's the point of being in it just to make up the numbers?
What kind of example are we setting if we only expect sustained competitiveness?
If someone could guarantee a premiership every 10 years if you missed the finals for 8 of those 10 years then I'd take it every time (it also means we're about due for a threepeat)
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You've got to learn to walk before you can run.
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I'm someone who believes we need a younger coach who can connect with our young list rather than us being a retirement home for legendary coaches who are on the wrong side of their prime. I'd rather spend the savings between their respective salaries in recruiting and player development. So I'd prefer the Club just focuses on the process with these younger coaches. Do we also want a side that crabs along the boundary?! :-\
If it gets us in the finals? Yes!
Finals perhaps but what about a flag - hasn't gotten the Pies a flag in the last 10 years :P
WP who cares about FLAGS
LETS JUST MAKE FINALS FFS AND WORRY ABOUT THAT LATER
FFS we are the laughing stock of the AFL for the past 30 years.
Flags will come but Finals will shut everyone up for good and give us what we deserve.
If Malthouse is our man be very happy as he will take no passengers with him.
goodbye duds finally. Schulz, Mclovin, Petrified and Thompson can disappear into the sunset forever together
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Surely Mick would walk for a 4 year deal at Tigerland if he is only guaranteed 2 at Collingwood ??
Most sane people would do it for their career and family.
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Surely Mick would walk for a 4 year deal at Tigerland if he is only guaranteed 2 at Collingwood ??
Most sane people would do it for their career and family.
Either way, if Mick ends up at Tigerland there will be such a fire in his belly to succeed and prove his worth over the upstart Buckley, that he will drag our club into finals and beyond any way he can.
We can't lose with this senerio -
- Either we get Malthouse because the Pies only offer him a 2 year deal with a handover clause
- We get Bucks because he waits for the Collingwood job and therefore goes through our full process while he is waiting and evetually chooses to take the Tigers job because we appear the more sort after/professional option
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- We delay the Roos process regardless of whether they secure Bucks or not enabling us to secure the best coach available with any competition from other clubs
:thumbsup
Stripes
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As far as i'm concerned, it would be the sweetest revenge to announce Malthouse as our next coach this week and totally derail any chance the scum have of putting in a strong finals appearance in 2009.
Some of us still havent forgotten or forgiven them about Geoff Raines.
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WP who cares about FLAGS
Who cares about flags?
What a strange attitude
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The way the Pies are going about this they could lose both Mick and Bucks. Mick isn't will to just move over for Bucks.
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,25825171-23210,00.html
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As far as i'm concerned, it would be the sweetest revenge to announce Malthouse as our next coach this week and totally derail any chance the scum have of putting in a strong finals appearance in 2009.
Some of us still havent forgotten or forgiven them about Geoff Raines.
The sooner we leave the whole Collingwood vs Richmond thing, the better.
Malthouse is a pipe dream and not necessarily the answer. Ego has got our club into too much trouble over the years.
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I'm someone who believes we need a younger coach who can connect with our young list rather than us being a retirement home for legendary coaches who are on the wrong side of their prime. I'd rather spend the savings between their respective salaries in recruiting and player development. So I'd prefer the Club just focuses on the process with these younger coaches. Do we also want a side that crabs along the boundary?! :-\
If it gets us in the finals? Yes!
Finals perhaps but what about a flag - hasn't gotten the Pies a flag in the last 10 years :P
WP who cares about FLAGS
LETS JUST MAKE FINALS FFS AND WORRY ABOUT THAT LATER
FFS we are the laughing stock of the AFL for the past 30 years.
Flags will come but Finals will shut everyone up for good and give us what we deserve.
If Malthouse is our man be very happy as he will take no passengers with him.
goodbye duds finally. Schulz, Mclovin, Petrified and Thompson can disappear into the sunset forever together
Do you shout as much as you Caps Lock?
If so, IT MUST BE PRETTY LOUD IN YOUR WORKPLACE. DO YOU HEAR ME???!!!
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I'm someone who believes we need a younger coach who can connect with our young list rather than us being a retirement home for legendary coaches who are on the wrong side of their prime. I'd rather spend the savings between their respective salaries in recruiting and player development. So I'd prefer the Club just focuses on the process with these younger coaches. Do we also want a side that crabs along the boundary?! :-\
If it gets us in the finals? Yes!
Finals perhaps but what about a flag - hasn't gotten the Pies a flag in the last 10 years :P
WP who cares about FLAGS
LETS JUST MAKE FINALS FFS AND WORRY ABOUT THAT LATER
FFS we are the laughing stock of the AFL for the past 30 years.
Flags will come but Finals will shut everyone up for good and give us what we deserve.
If Malthouse is our man be very happy as he will take no passengers with him.
goodbye duds finally. Schulz, Mclovin, Petrified and Thompson can disappear into the sunset forever together
Do you shout as much as you Caps Lock?
If so, IT MUST BE PRETTY LOUD IN YOUR WORKPLACE. DO YOU HEAR ME???!!!
no workplace here in Cyprus pal
just a pool, laptop, a very dark pair of sunglasses and a lot of talent we need to recruit for the RFC
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I'm someone who believes we need a younger coach who can connect with our young list rather than us being a retirement home for legendary coaches who are on the wrong side of their prime. I'd rather spend the savings between their respective salaries in recruiting and player development. So I'd prefer the Club just focuses on the process with these younger coaches. Do we also want a side that crabs along the boundary?! :-\
If it gets us in the finals? Yes!
Finals perhaps but what about a flag - hasn't gotten the Pies a flag in the last 10 years :P
WP who cares about FLAGS
LETS JUST MAKE FINALS FFS AND WORRY ABOUT THAT LATER
FFS we are the laughing stock of the AFL for the past 30 years.
Flags will come but Finals will shut everyone up for good and give us what we deserve.
If Malthouse is our man be very happy as he will take no passengers with him.
goodbye duds finally. Schulz, Mclovin, Petrified and Thompson can disappear into the sunset forever together
Do you shout as much as you Caps Lock?
If so, IT MUST BE PRETTY LOUD IN YOUR WORKPLACE. DO YOU HEAR ME???!!!
no workplace here in Cyprus pal
just a pool, laptop, a very dark pair of sunglasses and a lot of talent we need to recruit for the RFC
What the hell are you doing online on your holiday you drop kick? No point bragging about being in the medditeranian if you spend your whole time in internet cafes just so you can cheer on your bum chum Jackstar
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Malthouse definitely sent Eddie a message tonight to keep him with a 9 goal win. Then again the Blues were woeful and the game didn't reach great heights.