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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on July 31, 2009, 03:03:24 PM
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Another most likely garbage rumour ....... This poster on BomberBlitz has media connections though.
I wasn't going to post this here, but now that it has been all over the radio I thought it was worthy to be looked at and discussed.
A rumour going around is that Richmond will be announcing that Knights will be their head coach in 2010. Apparently both Richmond and Knights have agreed not to discuss this publicly until Essendon's challenge for a finals campaign is over.
Personally, I don't believe it. BUT, given it has now been reported on 3AW, SEN and C10 I am starting to think there may be some truth to it. The media outlet I work in have contacted both Richmond and Knights who have offered no comment. Richmond have said they are still going through a process and will make a comment in due course.
I have also received 3 pms this morning from people on BB who are usually in the know suggesting they have heard similar.
I don't believe it, but at least we can say we had it on BB first if it does come true.
http://www.bomberblitz.com/forum/index.php?s=2a6d4b7522aa5f41cfd2350df9d1ed50&showtopic=51505
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Would be funny but won't happen.
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So Matthew Knights is going to break his contract with the Bombers for 2010 - yes he is contracted for 2010
And we are conducting interviews for no reason
:help
Rightie O then
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Well that was interesting, it has the bummer fans worked up.
Some funny comments on bagging our list when the obvious escapes them that we just beat them and could be said to have the wood on them in the last few years.
Wouldn't mind if it was true but I doubt it.
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Well that was interesting, it has the bummer fans worked up.
Some funny comments on bagging our list when the obvious escapes them that we just beat them and could be said to have the wood on them in the last few years.
Yep lost on them is we beat them with a side 1.5 years younger per player and with overall half the playing experience. 12 Tigers to 7 Bombers U23 as well. So much for them being the "baby" bombers :whistle
We've owned them in recent years which is why they get so cut. 7 wins from the last 9 games.
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So has Knighter gone through the process? We cant mess with the process!
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So has Knighter gone through the process? We cant mess with the process!
ooh please a few days ago you came out and said "WE MUST SIGN UP RAWLINGS NOW"
now you come out with the "WE CANT MESS WITH THE PROCESS"
Your second comment is most correct pal and if we are to be serious we must see this out till the end and not be persuaded by outside influences like a few cheap wins against useless opposition ar a Hardwick that may be snapped up by Port.
See it out till the end and offer a 2 year deal, which by the way will be Rawlings
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Richmond and Knights have agreed not to discuss this publicly until Essendon's challenge for a finals campaign is over.
If this garbage rumour was true then this would have been made public after last Sunday ;D
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Given he's contracted for 2010 and getting a pay rise for next year over and above his original contracted salary I somehow doubt he'd be coming to Richmond. I'm kinda glad too as I'm sure we can do better.
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Sheeds would use us to twist the arm of Essendon into giving him a new contract. Perhaps Knighter when under him has learnt the same trick to try and cement his position beyond next year.
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i dont believe the rumor but who knows hey
btw , so what if knights is contracted, there is no law that says you cannot leave ur workplace while contracted if something better comes along
why is it ok for coaches to be sacked and not ok for coaches to walk away, rememember wallace has walked away from 2 contracts b4 they expired lol
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for the same reasons I dont want Rawlings to be our coach, I dont want Knights to become our coach. I hope the rumour is wrong.
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This thread is as much a joke as it was that Bux would be our next coach.
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Rubbish thread
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So has Knighter gone through the process? We cant mess with the process!
ooh please a few days ago you came out and said "WE MUST SIGN UP RAWLINGS NOW"
now you come out with the "WE CANT MESS WITH THE PROCESS"
Your second comment is most correct pal and if we are to be serious we must see this out till the end and not be persuaded by outside influences like a few cheap wins against useless opposition ar a Hardwick that may be snapped up by Port.
See it out till the end and offer a 2 year deal, which by the way will be Rawlings
Social intelligence would have seen you you realisethat i was speaking tongue in cheek, Daniel my little friend!
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Rubbish thread
Dont shoot the messenger, Guys!
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i dont believe the rumor but who knows hey
btw , so what if knights is contracted, there is no law that says you cannot leave ur workplace while contracted if something better comes along
why is it ok for coaches to be sacked and not ok for coaches to walk away, rememember wallace has walked away from 2 contracts b4 they expired lol
Ummm, do you actually know the law? Ever heard of the term "breach of contract"?
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i know for a fact that matty knights still loves rfc more than anything, blacjk and yellow still run through his veins, and if he was available or wanted the job imo its his , if he dosnt and this rumor is bs then jade has to be the man
maybe this is why both sheedy and campbell pulled out of the race, maybe there is more to this than we know
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i dont believe the rumor but who knows hey
btw , so what if knights is contracted, there is no law that says you cannot leave ur workplace while contracted if something better comes along
why is it ok for coaches to be sacked and not ok for coaches to walk away, rememember wallace has walked away from 2 contracts b4 they expired lol
Ummm, do you actually know the law? Ever heard of the term "breach of contract"?
Ever you ever heard of the term, ""Get out clause" ???? :o :o :o :o
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if he dosnt and this rumor is bs then jade has to be the man
yep and then we spend another decade in the wilderness.
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I'm not particularly interested in Mattie Knights coaching Richmond. There are 2 reasons for this:-
1. The defensive side of his game plan is weak
2. I would prefer that our club simply follow something through properly and not flip flop (for a change)
To me, the logic of the rumour is solid, I can see it happening.
Tigers want more "Tigers" at Tigerland. There is no doubting the love Knighter has for our club. Many rumours of disquiet between the senior Bomber players and the coach. You could kinda see it coming.
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i know for a fact that matty knights still loves rfc more than anything, blacjk and yellow still run through his veins, and if he was available or wanted the job imo its his , if he dosnt and this rumor is bs then jade has to be the man
maybe this is why both sheedy and campbell pulled out of the race, maybe there is more to this than we know
I know I would like to see him here where he belongs.
It would be good if it was true but like others I can't see it happening.
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I'm not particularly interested in Mattie Knights coaching Richmond. There are 2 reasons for this:-
1. The defensive side of his game plan is weak
2. I would prefer that our club simply follow something through properly and not flip flop (for a change)
To me, the logic of the rumour is solid, I can see it happening.
Tigers want more "Tigers" at Tigerland. There is no doubting the love Knighter has for our club. Many rumours of disquiet between the senior Bomber players and the coach. You could kinda see it coming.
I'm not interested either (unless he goes through the process and comes up trumps - can't see that happening) and I think the most relevant quote in your post was "Many rumours of disquiet between the senior Bomber players and the coach." You have to ask why.
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i dont believe the rumor but who knows hey
btw , so what if knights is contracted, there is no law that says you cannot leave ur workplace while contracted if something better comes along
why is it ok for coaches to be sacked and not ok for coaches to walk away, rememember wallace has walked away from 2 contracts b4 they expired lol
Ummm, do you actually know the law? Ever heard of the term "breach of contract"?
Ever you ever heard of the term, ""Get out clause" ???? :o :o :o :o
Yes, it's used mostly in AFL for assistant coaches being able to get out of contracts to take on the senior role at another club, not for the senior coach of one side to take up another senior coaching position at an opposition club
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Sheeds would use us to twist the arm of Essendon into giving him a new contract. Perhaps Knighter when under him has learnt the same trick to try and cement his position beyond next year.
If memory serves me correctly, Knights played under Northery didnt he ... He would have learnt something about how manic clubs can get about favorite sons returning to coach them :whistle
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this thread still going :lol get a life some of you its & rubbish rumour some drugged up dick started
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I'm not particularly interested in Mattie Knights coaching Richmond. There are 2 reasons for this:-
1. The defensive side of his game plan is weak
2. I would prefer that our club simply follow something through properly and not flip flop (for a change)
To me, the logic of the rumour is solid, I can see it happening.
Tigers want more "Tigers" at Tigerland. There is no doubting the love Knighter has for our club. Many rumours of disquiet between the senior Bomber players and the coach. You could kinda see it coming.
I'm not interested either (unless he goes through the process and comes up trumps - can't see that happening) and I think the most relevant quote in your post was "Many rumours of disquiet between the senior Bomber players and the coach." You have to ask why.
Typical Richmond supporter. Always backing the players over the coach.... even at other clubs ::)
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i know for a fact that matty knights still loves rfc more than anything, blacjk and yellow still run through his veins, and if he was available or wanted the job imo its his , if he dosnt and this rumor is bs then jade has to be the man
maybe this is why both sheedy and campbell pulled out of the race, maybe there is more to this than we know
You dont know anything for a fact sunshine. You make it up and then claim your brother told you when challenged.
Matty Knights still holds a grudge at how his career ended at Richmond. He did took the hard road to make it as a senior coach with NO help or nepotism from us whatsover
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this thread still going :lol get a life some of you its & rubbish rumour some drugged up dick started
this thread is a good thread but yes the knights rumour is crap imho.
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this thread still going :lol get a life some of you its & rubbish rumour some drugged up dick started
this thread is a good thread but yes the knights rumour is crap imho.
I bloody hope so
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this thread still going :lol get a life some of you its & rubbish rumour some drugged up dick started
this thread is a good thread but yes the knights rumour is crap imho.
I bloody hope so
i get the feeling we will stuff up the coaching appointment, they will give it to Rawlings. :banghead
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this thread still going :lol get a life some of you its & rubbish rumour some drugged up dick started
this thread is a good thread but yes the knights rumour is crap imho.
I bloody hope so
i get the feeling we will stuff up the coaching appointment, they will give it to Rawlings. :banghead
Well Ramps, if they do that, then i've only got one thing to say to Brett Deledio, and that is "get out now" because you are about to waste another two to three years of your footballing life.
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this thread still going :lol get a life some of you its & rubbish rumour some drugged up dick started
this thread is a good thread but yes the knights rumour is crap imho.
I bloody hope so
i get the feeling we will stuff up the coaching appointment, they will give it to Rawlings. :banghead
Well Ramps, if they do that, then i've only got one thing to say to Brett Deledio, and that is "get out now" because you are about to waste another two to three years of your footballing life.
1) Who would you rather have as coach, and why?
2) Why do you think Rawlings would be a poor coach?
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this thread still going :lol get a life some of you its & rubbish rumour some drugged up dick started
this thread is a good thread but yes the knights rumour is crap imho.
I bloody hope so
i get the feeling we will stuff up the coaching appointment, they will give it to Rawlings. :banghead
Well Ramps, if they do that, then i've only got one thing to say to Brett Deledio, and that is "get out now" because you are about to waste another two to three years of your footballing life.
Ummm, yeah.
Rawlings has done nothing to suggest he is incapable of doing the job.
I bet you're a Sheedy wannabe.
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I would have been a supporter of Malthouse as coach. Sheedy was never the coach for mine. Now that Malthouse is gone, Id prefer to see Damien Hardwick get it, Allan Richardson as 2nd choice, with Ken Hinkley 3rd.
Rawlings seems way to much mates with the players. Being mates with players is good as long as things are going well or theres nothing on the line- like the last few games in a season, but coaches being mates with players becomes a problem when things start to go sour. I have said this before, someone like Hardwick should be appointed and Jade should be given a new job as head of player development. Ive always supporterd a soccer style academy for AFL clubs for players under 23. Give Rawlings that job and if he wants to coach Coburg he can do that as well. That seems like a win win situation to me.
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I would have been a supporter of Malthouse as coach. Sheedy was never the coach for mine. Now that Malthouse is gone, Id prefer to see Damien Hardwick get it, Allan Richardson as 2nd choice, with Ken Hinkley 3rd.
Rawlings seems way to much mates with the players. Being mates with players is good as long as things are going well or theres nothing on the line- like the last few games in a season, but coaches being mates with players becomes a problem when things start to go sour. I have said this before, someone like Hardwick should be appointed and Jade should be given a new job as head of player development. Ive always supporterd a soccer style academy for AFL clubs for players under 23. Give Rawlings that job and if he wants to coach Coburg he can do that as well. That seems like a win win situation to me.
Mates with the players? Ask Bowden, Simmonds, Tuck, Rance etc if he is trying to be their mates!
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I'm not interested either (unless he goes through the process and comes up trumps - can't see that happening) and I think the most relevant quote in your post was "Many rumours of disquiet between the senior Bomber players and the coach." You have to ask why.
Typical Richmond supporter. Always backing the players over the coach.... even at other clubs ::)
:)
In all seriousness, I ask why because if he can't get the playing group playing for him then his days as a senior coach are numbered, regardless of who's fault it is.
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Schwarz on SEN just now has jumped on the Knights rumour. He started off by saying like Benny Gale another former Tiger may be heading back to Punt Rd. He then says he's heard Knights has been or will be interviewed by Richmond as part of their coaching process.
Dermie then added that he's heard Knights had enemies .... make that major differences .... with others at Essendon on principles. If the above rumour is true it'll say more about Essendon than Richmond. If he has a contract but wants out then you'd let him walk.
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Schwarz on SEN just now has jumped on the Knights rumour. He started off by saying like Benny Gale another former Tiger may be heading back to Punt Rd. He then says he's heard Knights has been or will be interviewed by Richmond as part of their coaching process.
Dermie then added that he's heard Knights had enemies .... make that major differences .... with others at Essendon on principles. If the above rumour is true it'll say more about Essendon than Richmond. If he has a contract but wants out then you'd let him walk.
I like that Gale is back...
....but please not Matthew Knights as coach!! :pray
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Schwarz on SEN & tv matter of fact is a stupid goose
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Richmond Hierachy:
Board Member: Tony Free
Coach: Matthew Knights
Ass. Coach: Wayne Campbell
Ass. Coach: Kane Johnson
Whose next Jeff Hogg? lol
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Richmond Hierachy:
Board Member: Tony Free
Coach: Matthew Knights
Ass. Coach: Wayne Campbell
Ass. Coach: Kane Johnson
Whose next Jeff Hogg? lol
Don't forget the new CEO
I'm very happy with Benny Gale's appointment, however I'll be more than happy to have every one of those listed above to not be at the club. Would rather Hardwick than Knights, it'd be kinda poetic I reckon.
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Yeah should have added Benny but our last 4 club captains are all now at the helm of the club, think Hogg was the one before Free.
Kinda puts to rest that the club has no soul thanks Caro. Gee Footy Classified will be good tonight.
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Richmond Hierachy:
Board Member: Tony Free
Coach: Matthew Knights
Ass. Coach: Wayne Campbell
Ass. Coach: Kane Johnson
Whose next Jeff Hogg? lol
Nah would have to be Nick Daffy wouldn't it :rollin
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March contacted SEN and dismissed the rumour. The Club hasn't spoken to Knights.
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As l said before
Schwarz on SEN & TV is a stupid goose
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Richmond Hierachy:
Board Member: Tony Free
Coach: Matthew Knights
Ass. Coach: Wayne Campbell
Ass. Coach: Kane Johnson
Whose next Jeff Hogg? lol
Nothing wrong with Jeff Hogg, quality person. Oh how some have short memories
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Nothing wrong with Jeff Hogg, quality person. Oh how some have short memories
Nice bloke Jeff Hogg - he is mentoring someone isn't he?
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Nothing wrong with Jeff Hogg, quality person. Oh how some have short memories
Nice bloke Jeff Hogg - he is mentoring someone isn't he?
He was, dont know this year though. Luke Mcgaune perhaps ?
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Truth puts Knights tale on the sword
Mike Sheahan | August 13, 2009
IT SEEMS every urger in town is convinced Matthew Knights is in earnest discussion with Richmond on its coaching vacancy.
Not a day passes when someone in the media, in the street or on the internet doesn't promise you the Essendon coach is plotting something with his old club.
When the Herald Sun called Essendon chief executive Peter Jackson yesterday and said: "We keep hearing . . .", he interrupted.
"I keep hearing that people keep hearing . . . you're referring to Matthew Knights, right?"
Other than tiring of the persistent query, Jackson is untroubled by the nature of the rumour.
"Ring Matthew," he said.
We did, and he was equally dismissive.
"It baffles me, actually," Knights said. "I've been asked four or five times in the last week.
"It's just a waste of time. I've got a contract (2008-10), we're still in the early part of our (rebuilding) program, and things are going pretty strongly.
"I'm fully committed to the players and the vision of the Essendon Football Club."
Knights admitted he spoke regularly with "Richmond people", the club's director of football, Tony Free, new chief executive Brendon Gale, and former teammate, Chris Naish, all friends.
It's the link with Free that seems to have sparked the rumour, for Free is involved in the coaching process.
"I catch up with Freezer three or four times a year," Knights said.
"We had dinner about six weeks ago. Out of professionalism, we talked general football, hardly discussed Richmond or Essendon full stop.
"If anyone tried to run with it (his return to Richmond as coach), they'd end up with severe egg on their face."
Jackson said he first heard the suggestion when 3AW contacted him at 7.15 one morning recently for comment on a Rumour File item suggesting Richmond and Knights were talking.
Jackson said Knights probably would be talking to "Richmond people", basically because of friendships made as a player (1988-2002) and captain (1997-2000).
Bottom line, said Jackson: "The guy's contracted."
Knights, 38, is in his second year at Essendon. The Bombers have won 16 of 41, with one draw, in that time.
They will need to win two of their remaining three games to give themselves a realistic chance of playing finals for the first time since 2004.
Whatever the short-term outcome, Knights will be coaching at Windy Hill in 2010.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25921852-19742,00.html