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Title: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: one-eyed on August 07, 2009, 04:28:46 AM
From Crumden on BF:....

"According to Phil Egan on the Marngrook footy show, there was a mentors meeting this morning at the club. They were told to expect 10-15 players to be cut (or at least that was how he interpreted it)"

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15301450&postcount=1
Title: Re: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 07, 2009, 05:53:48 AM
And one of them is a player he mentors ;)
Title: Re: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: 1965 on August 07, 2009, 06:04:22 AM
And one of them is a player he mentors ;)

Why play the stuffing games?

 :help

Title: Re: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: richmondrules on August 07, 2009, 06:41:10 AM
And one of them is a player he mentors ;)

Why play the effing games?

 :help


Because he needs to be seen to know everything and everyone. Make him feel important.
Title: Re: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 07, 2009, 06:46:42 AM
And one of them is a player he mentors ;)

Maybe there is a message there  ;)

In Phil's mentoring style  ;) ;)

I reckon there will a reasonable number cut but I reckon 10-15 is a bit over the top. I would think 7-8 would be around the mark subjest to trades of course

Title: Re: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 07, 2009, 07:28:31 AM
And one of them is a player he mentors ;)

Maybe there is a message there  ;)

In Phil's mentoring style  ;) ;)

I reckon there will a reasonable number cut but I reckon 10-15 is a bit over the top. I would think 7-8 would be around the mark subjest to trades of course


I doubt very much that 10-15 players will get cut. Thats one third of a list and that will absolutely shatter the morale around the club. Then we have to replace them and i doubt they'll replace all those cut with kids and that will upset most posters about recycling etc!
Title: Re: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 07, 2009, 07:36:35 AM
And one of them is a player he mentors ;)

Why play the effing games?

 :help



Not the player he mentors, he is in Coburg reserves
Title: Re: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: Tigermonk on August 07, 2009, 08:14:46 AM
Here we go another 5 year rebuild that will make it more wasted years  :banghead :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: Infamy on August 07, 2009, 08:23:25 AM
I notice there was no time period mentioned
Title: Re: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: Tigermonk on August 07, 2009, 08:24:53 AM
I notice there was no time period mentioned

maybe they learnt from past mistakes, would that be a bonus
l put 5 years cause they need that long
Title: Re: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: Ramps on August 07, 2009, 10:13:25 AM
Atleast 4 senior players will be retired. Look for atleast 4 or 5 delistings and 1 trade out. Im looking 8 to 10 changes. If we bring up a rookie or two then that seems reasonable turnover.
Title: Re: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 07, 2009, 12:03:06 PM

Brown
Bowden
Richo??
Simmo
Johnson
Cogs


Foley-Trade, We have White same player same position. TIME TO GO AXEL SYDNEY AWAITS YOU.
Raines-Trade

MUST GO  PLEASE PLEASE GET THEM OUT OF THIS CLUB ONCE AND FOR ALL
Schulz
Mclovin
JON
Pathetic Petrified
Patterson


If i had my way id throw in King & Edwards as well because who are we trying to kid is he really going to win you a flag. NO!!!

Edwards especially part of the Wallace brigade of skinny little weeds that cannot hurt a fly.

Hughes needs another year but FFS play him in the forward line alongside Jack. What have they got to lose. SFA






Title: Re: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: Stripes on August 07, 2009, 12:24:36 PM
I have posted this on another thread but in my opinion 10 delistings is very realistic -

Delistings
Jonhson, Bowden, Simmonds, Petts, JON, Cogs plus possibly Brown and Polak.

Hughes could also be a potential exclusion but given the amount in front of him and his age he will more than likely be retained.

Trades
Raines, Schulz and possibly even Tuck and/or Patto.


With a new coach in all the players would be aware that major changes would occur so long term morale damage is very unlikely. There would be few if any unexpected delistings from the list above.

Stripes
Title: Re: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: wayne on August 07, 2009, 12:51:00 PM
Foley-Trade, We have White same player same position. TIME TO GO AXEL SYDNEY AWAITS YOU.

If White and Foley are the same player, i'd keep Foley. White always makes me nervous.
Title: Re: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 07, 2009, 01:05:45 PM
Contracts to a large degree will determine who goes and who stays.

Unless we can trade Schulz & McMahon then they will be staying ... could pay them out I suppose but it would go into the 2009 salary cap and I am not how close we are to 100%

But I will admit, allowing for trades and de-listings it's very east to come up with 8-10 names to go
Title: Re: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 07, 2009, 02:16:18 PM

Brown
Bowden
Richo??
Simmo
Johnson
Cogs


Foley-Trade, We have White same player same position. TIME TO GO AXEL SYDNEY AWAITS YOU.
Raines-Trade

MUST GO  PLEASE PLEASE GET THEM OUT OF THIS CLUB ONCE AND FOR ALL
Schulz
Mclovin
JON
Pathetic Petrified
Patterson


If i had my way id throw in King & Edwards as well because who are we trying to kid is he really going to win you a flag. NO!!!

Edwards especially part of the Wallace brigade of skinny little weeds that cannot hurt a fly.

Hughes needs another year but FFS play him in the forward line alongside Jack. What have they got to lose. SFA







Daniel please remember that players dont win you flags, teams do! Plenty of good ordinary footballers play in premierships. Discipline, team work, 1 % etc. win flags, not superstars!
Title: Re: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 07, 2009, 02:21:45 PM

Brown
Bowden
Richo??
Simmo
Johnson
Cogs


Foley-Trade, We have White same player same position. TIME TO GO AXEL SYDNEY AWAITS YOU.
Raines-Trade

MUST GO  PLEASE PLEASE GET THEM OUT OF THIS CLUB ONCE AND FOR ALL
Schulz
Mclovin
JON
Pathetic Petrified
Patterson


If i had my way id throw in King & Edwards as well because who are we trying to kid is he really going to win you a flag. NO!!!

Edwards especially part of the Wallace brigade of skinny little weeds that cannot hurt a fly.

Hughes needs another year but FFS play him in the forward line alongside Jack. What have they got to lose. SFA







Daniel please remember that players dont win you flags, teams do! Plenty of good ordinary footballers play in premierships. Discipline, team work, 1 % etc. win flags, not superstars!

exactly and i've had a gutful of watching skinny little players who cannot lay a tackle if their life depended on it. Our disposal is terrible bordering on laughable

time for Al Clarkson's philosophy to come into play "IF YOU CANT KICK YOUR OUT OF THE TEAM"

as for your line about teams winning you flags well under your man Rawlings our tackle count has gone up one position to 12th now if you think that will win you a flag then you are kidding yourself. He has won 2 games, drawn one and yet we are still 12th.

These are the stats that matter. If we were sitting in top 3 i would be calling for Jade to be given the role but FFS we are 12th and we will never go anywhere as a footy club till we start leading in these areas.

The coach that instills displine and makes the players block, shepherd & tackle will get us into the finals not a few cheap wins against useless teams.
Title: Re: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 07, 2009, 02:34:18 PM
Hes taken our tackle count up to 12th but it is where these tackles occur that counts! You cannot tell me that Nahas and Sloppy havent increased the pressure applied in our forward 50? I much prefer the brand we are playing now than previously, it is accountable footy, now time for the skills.........
Title: Re: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 07, 2009, 02:48:13 PM
Hes taken our tackle count up to 12th but it is where these tackles occur that counts! You cannot tell me that Nahas and Sloppy havent increased the pressure applied in our forward 50? I much prefer the brand we are playing now than previously, it is accountable footy, now time for the skills.........

Nahas has been laying tackles since his debut. Watch the Port Adelaide game again and you will see what a pocket dynamo he is. A player who has this attribute in his first season will have it more than likely for the duration of his career. A player that does not will need to have it drummed into him to achieve this. If Sloppy and Nahas were to sit on the sidelines for the rest of the year there would be NO pressure on the opposition in our forward line. Monkeys see and monkeys do. Where would that leave us at the pre Wallace heights of 13th or 14th-16th?
Must be indoctrinated to the team as a mandatory philosophy on how to play good football rather than a reactionary movement to someone who has the ball. Then we will improve and then we will benefit from referred pressure also.
Title: Re: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 07, 2009, 02:59:43 PM
Hes taken our tackle count up to 12th but it is where these tackles occur that counts! You cannot tell me that Nahas and Sloppy havent increased the pressure applied in our forward 50? I much prefer the brand we are playing now than previously, it is accountable footy, now time for the skills.........

ooh please your not going to use that old chestnut are you?

Nahas has been brilliant in this area from day one.

Nice try pal but stats dont lie and under Jade we have improved only marginally. IMO no where near enough to be given the job.

Its a real shame we dont play anyone in the top 4 again because then you will see the real richnmond get smashed and most of you will be singing a very different tune
Title: Re: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: Ramps on August 07, 2009, 04:24:20 PM
Hes taken our tackle count up to 12th but it is where these tackles occur that counts! You cannot tell me that Nahas and Sloppy havent increased the pressure applied in our forward 50? I much prefer the brand we are playing now than previously, it is accountable footy, now time for the skills.........

ooh please your not going to use that old chestnut are you?

Nahas has been brilliant in this area from day one.

Nice try pal but stats dont lie and under Jade we have improved only marginally. IMO no where near enough to be given the job.

Its a real shame we dont play anyone in the top 4 again because then you will see the real richnmond get smashed and most of you will be singing a very different tune

Thats what is giving the Rawlings supporters hope. They know we aint playing no Geelong, or Bulldogs, or St Kilda ... errr what saw what happened against St Kilda lol ... anyway these guys are hoping cheap wins against tanking teams will be enough to give good ol' Jade the job. :banghead
Title: Re: 10-15 Tiger players expected to be cut: Phil Egan
Post by: mightytiges on August 08, 2009, 01:30:06 AM
I have posted this on another thread but in my opinion 10 delistings is very realistic -

Delistings
Jonhson, Bowden, Simmonds, Petts, JON, Cogs plus possibly Brown and Polak.

Hughes could also be a potential exclusion but given the amount in front of him and his age he will more than likely be retained.

Trades
Raines, Schulz and possibly even Tuck and/or Patto.

Yep hard to disagree with your outs Stripes. The 10-15 players would include rookies too.

Retired: Johnson, Bowden, Simmonds, Cogs, Polak, Browny?
Delisted: JON, Petts, Gourdis*, Silvester*?
Trade options: Schulz, Hughes, Raines, Patto, Tuck
Payout: McMahon?
Kingy rumouredly may have a performance clause in contract?
Thomson should be another but he's contracted as well  :P.

It's not hard to come up with 15 names. All depends on contracts and if any other clubs are stupid enough to offer anything during trade week. We'll have plenty of cap space to play with given all the senior players leaving so that won't be an issue.