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Rawlings sees cultural problems at Tigerland
richmondfc.com.au
By Jennifer Witham 6:40 PM Sun 09 August, 2009
RICHMOND coach Jade Rawlings said Sunday's 55-point loss to the Sydney Swans provided another example of a cultural problem at Tigerland.
In a scathing critique of his players' attitude, Rawlings said things had to change at Punt Road if the club was to move forward.
He went as far to suggest the Swans wanted to win for 300-gamer Michael O'Loughlin more than his players wanted a result for teammate Ben Cousins, who was playing his 250th match.
"People have been talking about cultural issues at Richmond for a long time," he said.
"Unfortunately, our players go back to habits that are bad reflections on them because they can't, when it gets tough, fight through it.
"They can't do something to help their mate, or if it's not working out for them individually, still have an involvement and bring something to the table.
"There's a lot of change that needs to be made, and over the last seven weeks we've been able to tap into that change, but we took a big step backwards today.
"Now it's back to the drawing board and back to the things we've been preaching and want to see improvement in. It takes a while."
Rawlings said the problems were "all mental" with his players and dangerously contagious.
"When one or two of them can't fight through it, it leads to four or five. The next thing, it infiltrates through the team," he said.
"We didn't have enough people prepared to challenge the course of the game and try to do something to change it.
"I couldn't have been more disappointed with the group to have a challenge put to them and for them to show varied, if any, resistance to it."
Rawlings said the Swans "epitomised playing for their team" on Sunday.
"To see Brett Kirk at three-quarter time, with how he was still so vocal towards his teammates … with the way he ran over to Michael O'Loughlin and acknowledged and celebrated with him just summed it up," he said.
"He was calling out to his teammates at the stoppages about the requirement to play for their mate.
"Brett Kirk brings his game to the table every week. He had 14 tackles and not much offensive involvement, but he brings what he brings every week.
"We have people who pick and choose what they bring to the game every week. Who's going to turn up? That's the question mark with all of our players at the moment.
"We were playing for a milestone. While he's only a 12-gamer, he's someone who's offered a fair bit to our footy club.
"But it meant more to them to play for their mate, who was playing his 300th."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/82351/default.aspx
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For 8 weeks Jade has been trying to put his best foot forward for a senior gig, now that results are not going his way, trying to air the dirty laundry of the club in the hope that other candidates move on in fear of the hellhole and cesspool of mediocrity Richmond is, is no way to be magnanamous Jade.
Face it mate when you were winning meaningless games you were talking about where we could finish next year and blah blah blah. Jade Rawlings RFC Caretaker coach Round 12-22 2009. Thanks for filling in, in such a difficult and turbulent time at the club. Best wishes for the future Jade.
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For 8 weeks Jade has been trying to put his best foot forward for a senior gig, now that results are not going his way, trying to air the dirty laundry of the club in the hope that other candidates move on in fear of the hellhole and cesspool of mediocrity Richmond is, is no way to be magnanamous Jade.
Face it mate when you were winning meaningless games you were talking about where we could finish next year and blah blah blah. Jade Rawlings RFC Caretaker coach Round 12-22 2009. Thanks for filling in, in such a difficult and turbulent time at the club. Best wishes for the future Jade.
exactly!!!
now he comes out with his crap.
mate i have news for you we all know this thats why we dont want you as coach.
you are too weak and the club needs bigger than you if are to survive
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For 8 weeks Jade has been trying to put his best foot forward for a senior gig, now that results are not going his way, trying to air the dirty laundry of the club in the hope that other candidates move on in fear of the hellhole and cesspool of mediocrity Richmond is, is no way to be magnanamous Jade.
Face it mate when you were winning meaningless games you were talking about where we could finish next year and blah blah blah. Jade Rawlings RFC Caretaker coach Round 12-22 2009. Thanks for filling in, in such a difficult and turbulent time at the club. Best wishes for the future Jade.
You have to give Jade a break, he aint got much idea.
He has had his chance to try and solve some of the issues down there. And there is one guy who gives his all 100% each week was sitting in the stand. One Shane Tuck. :banghead
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Jade didnt today say "those close to me know how much coaching this footy club means to me" and "I really want this job"
Today was career defining I would imagine Jade, bring on Laids.............
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and he didnt mention how much I love this club and I love coaching this group :banghead
after watching today, the guy coordinating the Auskick at half time would have more idea, at least the 8 games on the ground at half time were played in an ordererly fashion
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No poo Jade, wanna tell us something we dont know :help
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Sounds a little bit Terry-ish to me. :help
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Sounds a little bit Terry-ish to me. :help
Yep, they all live in there own little world. Reality check today. His aspirations are bigger than his ability
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Sounds a little bit Terry-ish to me. :help
Yep, they all live in there own little world. Reality check today. His aspirations are bigger than his ability
Exactomundo. We need someone with credentialls and a huge pair of balls to fix our problems not someone who will fill us with spin and smokescreens and lay the blame at the feet of others. We've already had 5 years of this. Another 3 years of this and we will be burning down solariums all over the country Carrie like.
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It's time now Jade, how much do YOU want this job Jade, this is the time when YOU need to lift. It's time for some MONGREL, it's time for clear cut leadership, this is your moment, goodluck.
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Actually it makes a pleasant change for a bit acid to go on the players, they've been let off very lightly too many times this year
As for blame.... I have said many times I have no problem with coaches copping a whack as long as the players do as well... and believe me the players deserve an almighty whack today
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Actually it makes a pleasant change for a bit acid to go on the players, they've been let off very lightly too any times this year
As for blame.... I have said many times I have no problem with coaches copping a whack as long as the players do as well... and believe me the players deserve an almighty whack today
Agree 100% WP, it's about time the players were told publically that they are weak minded and selfish.
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For 8 weeks Jade has been trying to put his best foot forward for a senior gig, now that results are not going his way, trying to air the dirty laundry of the club in the hope that other candidates move on in fear of the hellhole and cesspool of mediocrity Richmond is, is no way to be magnanamous Jade.
Face it mate when you were winning meaningless games you were talking about where we could finish next year and blah blah blah. Jade Rawlings RFC Caretaker coach Round 12-22 2009. Thanks for filling in, in such a difficult and turbulent time at the club. Best wishes for the future Jade.
exactly!!!
now he comes out with his crap.
mate i have news for you we all know this thats why we dont want you as coach.
you are too weak and the club needs bigger than you if are to survive
But he's right.
The culture is stuffed at our club and we need a coach that can get a 4 quarter effort out of them.
However, Jade has shown he cannot do it.
Last week was as bad as today except we played a better and more desperate opponent.
Thanks but no thanks, Jade.
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For 8 weeks Jade has been trying to put his best foot forward for a senior gig, now that results are not going his way, trying to air the dirty laundry of the club in the hope that other candidates move on in fear of the hellhole and cesspool of mediocrity Richmond is, is no way to be magnanamous Jade.
Face it mate when you were winning meaningless games you were talking about where we could finish next year and blah blah blah. Jade Rawlings RFC Caretaker coach Round 12-22 2009. Thanks for filling in, in such a difficult and turbulent time at the club. Best wishes for the future Jade.
exactly!!!
now he comes out with his crap.
mate i have news for you we all know this thats why we dont want you as coach.
you are too weak and the club needs bigger than you if are to survive
But he's right.
The culture is stuffed at our club and we need a coach that can get a 4 quarter effort out of them.
However, Jade has shown he cannot do it.
Last week was as bad as today except we played a better and more desperate opponent.
Thanks but no thanks, Jade.
Why bring it up now after we lose to an opponent by nearly 10 goals who has owned us for the last 4 years and say it instead after a win in a way where he is happy about the win but there is still a long way to go. Instead we win a game get carried away and then when performances like todays eventuate some scratch their heads and wonder where that was coming from.
Bye Bye Jade.
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Rawlings said the problems were "all mental" with his players and dangerously contagious.
"When one or two of them can't fight through it, it leads to four or five. The next thing, it infiltrates through the team," he said.
"We didn't have enough people prepared to challenge the course of the game and try to do something to change it.
Change begins on the training track and with our recruiting. Whoever becomes coach needs to strip things back to the bare basics and drill the whole list until it bores the brains out of them. It'd also help if the Club didn't trade for other club's recycled garbage who aren't up to it.
The new coach has to drill into the side how we structure up, where they need to be for basic plays, where they should run to, how they should link up, etc. Get out there and show them if they aren't doing it. Because too often when under pressure they slowly crumble and turn into a clueless rabble. There was no run today. Just Richmond players minding space deludingly expecting the ballcarrier to pinpoint a miraculous pass to them. Why does this happen coach? Where's the supposed leadership group on the ground to stand up and a lead by example? Is it a fault with the gameplan? If not what is the punishment for players who fail to follow the gameplan?
Our kick-ins are a nightmare. We're the only club that still plays under the old rule instead of playing on quickly as so as the ball goes through the points and clearing the defensive 50 zone. 50/50 bombs from the defensive goalsquare to the opposition ruckman is dumb footy. Talk about gifting possession to the opposition near their goal ::).
Switch of play is another mess. Too slow in deciding to switch when down the line to congested and then when our defenders finally switch to the fat side they look up and there's no one up field because our lazy mids are still walking and standing around on the thin side waving their hands in the air ::). Watch next week the difference between us and Collingwood on the switch. They are lightning on the switch as soon as they gain possession in the backline which sets up scoring counterattacks for them.
Demand as close to game intensity (and pressure) as possible at training rather than it being a sloppy Sunday kick in the park. Drag or drop any player who holds onto the ball for ages and allows the opposition to flood back when there were options ahead open. Being "safe" is selfish.
Demand precise skills. Make a mistake then do they do it again and again and again until they never get it wrong. The team can't be relied on performing consistently a straightforward 25m pass to a teammate under no physical pressure for gawds sake. We kill ourselves with our basic schoolboy turnovers. Even in circle work players should be told off if kicks aren't to the receiver's advantage or the receiver has to stop and prop. Strong footskills and a solid technique that holds up under pressure should be at the top of a recruiters list for new draftees. It's difficult to improve kicking by more than 5% once a player comes into the AFL system. Slow lollypop up and unders don't cut it.
Jade you're right about the players being lazy, weak and only deciding to work when they feel like it. But while we sign-up and keep hold onto overrated substandard footballers for far too long because we don't turnover the list fast enough with too few picks and don't replace them with talented footballers then there's no pressure on the playing list to alter the lazy culture.
Next year the Club as a whole has to forget about wishfully thinking about finals and treat 2010 as a developmental year.
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Where has Luke Ball played his footy this year and where has Deledio?
Where are the Saints on the ladder ?????
We have the same cultural problem we've had for 30 years. Easy to drop Tuck (who gives a poo), but too guteless to do the same to Deledio (who doesnt).
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Jade Rawlings slams Tigers' losing frame of mind
Bruce Matthews | August 10, 2009
CARETAKER coach Jade Rawlings declared after yesterday's 55-point loss that Richmond was burdened by a long-standing losing culture.
A brutally honest Rawlings lashed his players for being selfish and unwilling to help teammates in a challenge.
"People have been talking about cultural issues at Richmond for a long time, however long they think it has been going on," he said.
"But, unfortunately, our players go back to habits which are bad reflections on them because, when it gets tough, they can't fight through it, to do something to try and help a mate.
"If it's not working out for them individually, they can still have an involvement, still bring something to the table and have an impact on the team."
Rawlings' solution to eradicate the Tigers' inferior culture was "a lot of hard work" after he watched his team succumb to Sydney at the MCG.
"You can't boil the ocean, unfortunately, but there's a lot of change needed to be made and I think over the last seven weeks we've been able to tap into that change," he said.
"But today was a big step backwards, so we'll go back to the drawing board and keep going back to things that we've been preaching that we want to see them improving. But it takes a while.
"It's how you review, to be able to look teammates in the eye and assess how they performed, and how they performed against the plans we had in place and what we stand for as a footy club."
Rawlings was appalled by Richmond's response to Ben Cousins' 250th game, which he said contrasted sharply with the Swans' pledge to honour Michael O'Loughlin's 300th.
"I couldn't have been more disappointed with the group. To have a challenge put to them and to be able to show very little, if any resistance to it," he said.
"Their (Swans) discipline just totally wiped us off the park.
"It's all mental. Players who get challenged the way they did today at certain stages and go back to old habits where they just can't fight through it.
"And when one or two can't fight through it, that leads to four or five. Next thing it infiltrates through the team and we didn't have enough people prepared to challenge the course of the game and try and do sometime to change it.
"I thought the signs were pretty alarming early, and the second quarter we just allowed some very simple goals that shouldn't be allowed in AFL footy. We'll sum it up at selection this week, look at people who need to go back (to the VFL).
"Go and rediscover their form or go and work on an area of their game that we've identified is poor.
"Who comes in? We'll make those calls at selection, but it's more about today, how people offered their spot in the side back to us because of how they performed."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25906105-19742,00.html
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Change begins on the training track
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Next year the Club as a whole has to forget about wishfully thinking about finals and treat 2010 as a developmental year.
:clapping
Well said.
If they do a training drill, and mess it up, do it again and again and again till it's done right. Even if it takes all night.
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Change begins on the training track
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Next year the Club as a whole has to forget about wishfully thinking about finals and treat 2010 as a developmental year.
:clapping
Well said.
If they do a training drill, and mess it up, do it again and again and again till it's done right. Even if it takes all night.
al clarkson and the Hawks last year :thumbsup
heard it first hand.
cant understand why it does not happen at our club.
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I don't know why people are saying bye to Jade...
I have faith in the process, if at the end of it, he is selected ...great.
What i do like about Jade is his honesty...he and the coaching staff were not happy last week and are seething this week.
He didnt spin the loss, didnt blame players on the sidelines...just laid it on the line...we are selfish and dont play for each other...we dont know what we are getting from the players on a week to week basis.
As for Tuck sitting in the stands, i have no problem with this. He need to fix some defensive aspects to his game and thats why he was demoted to Coburg....as Rawlings said...some players gave their spots in the team back to the match committee today...they no doubt will be dropped.
Selfless play doesnt happen in a week...this will take time to become ingrained in our players heads...
Good on Jade for having the guts to say it....
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I don't know why people are saying bye to Jade...
I have faith in the process, if at the end of it, he is selected ...great.
What i do like about Jade is his honesty...he and the coaching staff were not happy last week and are seething this week.
He didnt spin the loss, didnt blame players on the sidelines...just laid it on the line...we are selfish and dont play for each other...we dont know what we are getting from the players on a week to week basis.
As for Tuck sitting in the stands, i have no problem with this. He need to fix some defensive aspects to his game and thats why he was demoted to Coburg....as Rawlings said...some players gave their spots in the team back to the match committee today...they no doubt will be dropped.
Selfless play doesnt happen in a week...this will take time to become ingrained in our players heads...
Good on Jade for having the guts to say it....
Great idea mate. Lets hire Frawley again because we've already forgotten how a stupid honest guy cant coach.
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Great idea mate. Lets hire Frawley again because we've already forgotten how a stupid honest guy cant coach.
I presume you can read and not just click insert quote...or is my presumption incorrect?
I said : "I have faith in the process, if at the end of it, he is selected ...great.
What i do like about Jade is his honesty...he and the coaching staff were not happy last week and are seething this week."
The club has a process in place....whoever that person is, I will be happy with...if that is Jade...great..if it is Hardwick as some on here are pushing for...great too....I am not wedded to one candidate.
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Where has Luke Ball played his footy this year and where has Deledio?
Where are the Saints on the ladder ?????
We have the same cultural problem we've had for 30 years. Easy to drop Tuck (who gives a poo), but too guteless to do the same to Deledio (who doesnt).
thats because they dont want to upset young Lids cause other clubs were asking for his services & Richmond are poo scared to lose him.
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I presume you can read and not just click insert quote...or is my presumption incorrect?
I said : "I have faith in the process, if at the end of it, he is selected ...great.
What i do like about Jade is his honesty...he and the coaching staff were not happy last week and are seething this week."
The club has a process in place....whoever that person is, I will be happy with...if that is Jade...great..if it is Hardwick as some on here are pushing for...great too....I am not wedded to one candidate.
Everyone is nice until they get what they want ;D Jade suck asses to the admin & a couple down there dont trust him. He will then turn into the real person he is if he dont get the job & walk away cursing. ;D
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Swans gave Tigers lesson: King
richmondfc.com.au
By Jennifer Witham Mon 10 August, 2009
RICHMOND midfielder Jake King says the Tigers are determined to become an experienced and professional unit like the Sydney Swans, after receiving a lesson in team-orientated football on Sunday.
King, 25, agreed with coach Jade Rawlings' summation that the main difference between the two sides in their 55-point loss was the Swans' determination to play together as a team.
King said the Tigers were doing all they could to ensure that side of their game developed as their young list becomes more experienced.
"The Swans played for each other and as a team, and each individual has a role and sticks to it," King said after the game.
"No matter how many good players you've got in the side, if you've got a side that sticks together, it's always going to win.
"I think our boys are just a bit young and lacking some experience under pressure when the game is pretty much there to be won.
"We play for each other, and I don't think anyone means to do the wrong thing, it's just that everyone is still learning and we've still got a little way to go.
"There are positive signs. The boys do stick together off the field and try to get around, because we like to put it all behind us as soon as we can so we can focus on it the following week."
Rawlings questioned the Tigers' culture after the game, and said the problem rested with a lack of consistent effort when confronted with challenges.
King said while the players were aware of the problem, he found it hard to question his teammates' dedication to each other.
"I get along with each and every one of these boys really well, and I don't have a problem with anyone of them that walks the field on any day," he said.
"I know they're going to look me in the eye and do everything for me, and I'll do anything for them.
"It's just we haven't had an answer for this for the past five or six years, so I don't think it's going to be something we can fix quickly.
"It's just something we need to work on."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/82371/default.asp
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Swans gave Tigers lesson: King
richmondfc.com.au
By Jennifer Witham Mon 10 August, 2009
RICHMOND midfielder Jake King says the Tigers are determined to become an experienced and professional unit like the Sydney Swans, after receiving a lesson in team-orientated football on Sunday.
King, 25, agreed with coach Jade Rawlings' summation that the main difference between the two sides in their 55-point loss was the Swans' determination to play together as a team.
King said the Tigers were doing all they could to ensure that side of their game developed as their young list becomes more experienced.
"The Swans played for each other and as a team, and each individual has a role and sticks to it," King said after the game.
"No matter how many good players you've got in the side, if you've got a side that sticks together, it's always going to win.
"I think our boys are just a bit young and lacking some experience under pressure when the game is pretty much there to be won.
"We play for each other, and I don't think anyone means to do the wrong thing, it's just that everyone is still learning and we've still got a little way to go.
"There are positive signs. The boys do stick together off the field and try to get around, because we like to put it all behind us as soon as we can so we can focus on it the following week."
Rawlings questioned the Tigers' culture after the game, and said the problem rested with a lack of consistent effort when confronted with challenges.
King said while the players were aware of the problem, he found it hard to question his teammates' dedication to each other.
"I get along with each and every one of these boys really well, and I don't have a problem with anyone of them that walks the field on any day," he said.
"I know they're going to look me in the eye and do everything for me, and I'll do anything for them.
"It's just we haven't had an answer for this for the past five or six years, so I don't think it's going to be something we can fix quickly.
"It's just something we need to work on."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/82371/default.asp
give me a stuffin break
for once can they just do not think.
all i hear is yap yap yap problem this play for each other that. i watch games closely and if you think its okay for one of your teammates not to help you shepherd off an opponent then stuff me dead we are stuffed as a football club.
talk is cheap at Punt Road. Proof is in the tackle count and the stats dont lie.
you can commennt as much as you like and that goes for the whole side but unless we start attacking, tackling shepherding i will always read these articles and comments and :banghead
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OMFG if they think the Sydney Swans are a professional outfit & wanna be like them well l will stick my head in the sand
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OMFG if they think the Sydney Swans are a professional outfit & wanna be like them well l will stick my head in the sand
You'd have to remove it from your ass first
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You'd have to remove it from your ass first
you must be real Jealous of me Imfamy, your talent is raw on your keyboard if thats all you know.
l bet your one of them girls who used to hang out at punt road drooling over the players wishing they pick you up but was dejected when they walked past you because your ugly, whats it like to have never played football & act like a man on the internet ;D :lol
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Great idea mate. Lets hire Frawley again because we've already forgotten how a stupid honest guy cant coach.
I presume you can read and not just click insert quote...or is my presumption incorrect?
I said : "I have faith in the process, if at the end of it, he is selected ...great.
What i do like about Jade is his honesty...he and the coaching staff were not happy last week and are seething this week."
The club has a process in place....whoever that person is, I will be happy with...if that is Jade...great..if it is Hardwick as some on here are pushing for...great too....I am not wedded to one candidate.
What did you like more about Danny Frawley? His honesty or his complete inability to coach a winning side?
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Great idea mate. Lets hire Frawley again because we've already forgotten how a stupid honest guy cant coach.
I presume you can read and not just click insert quote...or is my presumption incorrect?
I said : "I have faith in the process, if at the end of it, he is selected ...great.
What i do like about Jade is his honesty...he and the coaching staff were not happy last week and are seething this week."
The club has a process in place....whoever that person is, I will be happy with...if that is Jade...great..if it is Hardwick as some on here are pushing for...great too....I am not wedded to one candidate.
What did you like more about Danny Frawley? His honesty or his complete inability to coach a winning side?
2001 finals ring a bell
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Great idea mate. Lets hire Frawley again because we've already forgotten how a stupid honest guy cant coach.
I presume you can read and not just click insert quote...or is my presumption incorrect?
I said : "I have faith in the process, if at the end of it, he is selected ...great.
What i do like about Jade is his honesty...he and the coaching staff were not happy last week and are seething this week."
The club has a process in place....whoever that person is, I will be happy with...if that is Jade...great..if it is Hardwick as some on here are pushing for...great too....I am not wedded to one candidate.
What did you like more about Danny Frawley? His honesty or his complete inability to coach a winning side?
come on mate beating the Blues in that final was special.
Regardless of what kind of coach he turned out to be he was only 1 of 2 coaches to make us play finals of which we beat the Blues.
Thats gotta count for something.
I would not even compare him to Wallet and how much he screwed us over in his 5 pathetic years.
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What did you like more about Danny Frawley? His honesty or his complete inability to coach a winning side?
short memory, he had us play finals which is all we ever want. 1 game off a Grand Final
Leatherskin sunbaked Wallet couldnot even do that :lol he was meant to be very professional. with his mouth & looks :rollin
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No damage in 'culture' dig
richmondfc.com.au
By Matt Burgan Fri 14 August, 2009
RICHMOND caretaker coach Jade Rawlings says the comments he made about the club having “cultural issues” last weekend will not damage his coaching prospects for 2010 and beyond.
Rawlings made the comments following Richmond’s 55-point loss to the Sydney Swans and he dismissed media speculation that the past two rounds – a win-after-the-siren against bottom-placed Melbourne and the disappointing loss to the Swans – had hurt his chances of taking on the job permanently next season.
“The club couldn’t be more thorough in their process and they said from the outset they won’t be drawn into media speculation,” Rawlings said.
He said it was up to others to judge if he had improved as a coach since taking over from Terry Wallace mid-season.
“I really, really enjoy what I do and seeing the players carry out and seeing improvement in individuals in the group,” he said.
“I don’t know if I’ve changed. I’d like to think I’m the same bloke, but as far as the skills set you pick up for coaching, there’s not much that can replicate sitting in the chair of being the senior coach and going through this procedure.
“It’s very full-on, but I like full-on.”
Asked who he believed had flourished under him since taking on the top job, Rawlings nominated ex-Bomber and first-year Tiger Tom Hislop.
“I think Hislop … he’s been able to play eight in a row now, since I’ve taken over,” he said.
“(But) it’s hard for me to say. I think the players can answer that more, but at the same time a lot of the guys who have got opportunities in the second half of the year have played well whilst Terry was coach as well.
“I’m not going to say that I’m the messiah that’s changed these individuals to becoming good players.”
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/82722/default.aspx
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Asked who he believed had flourished under him since taking on the top job, Rawlings nominated ex-Bomber and first-year Tiger Tom Hislop.
“I think Hislop … he’s been able to play eight in a row now, since I’ve taken over,” he said.
Hmmmmm if that is the best he can come up with then.....
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Slow down Jade ;D
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Where does the poison end - another coach, our chivalrous group of devoted supporters stabbing another coach in the back :help
Why?
Jade was just telling it how it was, the Swans played more for O'Loughlin and we didn't
We have a history of not playing for our mates
Is that a cultural problem? I'd say so.
The truth hurts it seems ::)
If Jade is found wanting in the coaching sphere, he'll be outed as well
But please don't make excuses for insipid performances :banghead
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Where does the poison end - another coach, our chivalrous group of devoted supporters stabbing another coach in the back :help
Why?
Jade was just telling it how it was, the Swans played more for O'Loughlin and we didn't
We have a history of not playing for our mates
Is that a cultural problem? I'd say so.
The truth hurts it seems ::)
If Jade is found wanting in the coaching sphere, he'll be outed as well
But please don't make excuses for insipid performances :banghead
:chuck
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Where does the poison end - another coach, our chivalrous group of devoted supporters stabbing another coach in the back :help
Why?
Jade was just telling it how it was, the Swans played more for O'Loughlin and we didn't
We have a history of not playing for our mates
Is that a cultural problem? I'd say so.
The truth hurts it seems ::)
If Jade is found wanting in the coaching sphere, he'll be outed as well
But please don't make excuses for insipid performances :banghead
:chuck
:wallywink
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Where does the poison end - another coach, our chivalrous group of devoted supporters stabbing another coach in the back :help
Why?
Jade was just telling it how it was, the Swans played more for O'Loughlin and we didn't
We have a history of not playing for our mates
Is that a cultural problem? I'd say so.
The truth hurts it seems ::)
If Jade is found wanting in the coaching sphere, he'll be outed as well
But please don't make excuses for insipid performances :banghead
:chuck
:wallywink
:chuck
-
Where does the poison end - another coach, our chivalrous group of devoted supporters stabbing another coach in the back :help
Why?
Jade was just telling it how it was, the Swans played more for O'Loughlin and we didn't
We have a history of not playing for our mates
Is that a cultural problem? I'd say so.
The truth hurts it seems ::)
If Jade is found wanting in the coaching sphere, he'll be outed as well
But please don't make excuses for insipid performances :banghead
:chuck
:wallywink
:chuck
We can do this all day and bore everyone pooless. I can play the same game, matey. You teach don't you? Some of the little kiddies stuff rubbing off on you lately.
Okay darl, here we go again. Let me know when you get bored and maybe we can stop boring everyone else, okay.
Kapish thickness?
:wallywink
-
Where does the poison end - another coach, our chivalrous group of devoted supporters stabbing another coach in the back :help
Why?
Jade was just telling it how it was, the Swans played more for O'Loughlin and we didn't
We have a history of not playing for our mates
Is that a cultural problem? I'd say so.
The truth hurts it seems ::)
If Jade is found wanting in the coaching sphere, he'll be outed as well
But please don't make excuses for insipid performances :banghead
:chuck
:wallywink
:chuck
We can do this all day and bore everyone pooless. I can play the same game, matey. You teach don't you? Some of the little kiddies stuff rubbing off on you lately.
Okay darl, here we go again. Let me know when you get bored and maybe we can stop boring everyone else, okay.
Kapish thickness?
:wallywink
:chuck
-
Where does the poison end - another coach, our chivalrous group of devoted supporters stabbing another coach in the back :help
Why?
Jade was just telling it how it was, the Swans played more for O'Loughlin and we didn't
We have a history of not playing for our mates
Is that a cultural problem? I'd say so.
The truth hurts it seems ::)
If Jade is found wanting in the coaching sphere, he'll be outed as well
But please don't make excuses for insipid performances :banghead
:chuck
:wallywink
:chuck
We can do this all day and bore everyone pooless. I can play the same game, matey. You teach don't you? Some of the little kiddies stuff rubbing off on you lately.
Okay darl, here we go again. Let me know when you get bored and maybe we can stop boring everyone else, okay.
Kapish thickness?
:wallywink
:chuck
:wallywink
-
Where does the poison end - another coach, our chivalrous group of devoted supporters stabbing another coach in the back :help
Why?
Jade was just telling it how it was, the Swans played more for O'Loughlin and we didn't
We have a history of not playing for our mates
Is that a cultural problem? I'd say so.
The truth hurts it seems ::)
If Jade is found wanting in the coaching sphere, he'll be outed as well
But please don't make excuses for insipid performances :banghead
:chuck
:wallywink
:chuck
We can do this all day and bore everyone pooless. I can play the same game, matey. You teach don't you? Some of the little kiddies stuff rubbing off on you lately.
Okay darl, here we go again. Let me know when you get bored and maybe we can stop boring everyone else, okay.
Kapish thickness?
:wallywink
:chuck
:wallywink
:sleep
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Where does the poison end - another coach, our chivalrous group of devoted supporters stabbing another coach in the back :help
Why?
Jade was just telling it how it was, the Swans played more for O'Loughlin and we didn't
We have a history of not playing for our mates
Is that a cultural problem? I'd say so.
The truth hurts it seems ::)
If Jade is found wanting in the coaching sphere, he'll be outed as well
But please don't make excuses for insipid performances :banghead
:chuck
:wallywink
:chuck
We can do this all day and bore everyone pooless. I can play the same game, matey. You teach don't you? Some of the little kiddies stuff rubbing off on you lately.
Okay darl, here we go again. Let me know when you get bored and maybe we can stop boring everyone else, okay.
Kapish thickness?
:wallywink
:chuck
:wallywink
:sleep
You started it
Frightening that someone as old as you is such a baby
But I can play your kiddy games too
:wallywink
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A slow Friday night ??? :sleep