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Title: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: one-eyed on August 21, 2009, 05:32:39 PM
Jade's manager Liam Pickering was asked by a caller just now whether Jade will stay at Richmond now he hasn't got the job. Pickering didn't dispute that Jade missed out and said he'll sit down with Jade and discuss what he wants to do. Pickering said it'll depend on the new coach. Rawlings loves the club and probably wouldn't have a problem being second banana but it may be better for him to move elsewhere. The experience as caretaker will hold him in good stead for the future.
Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: the_boy_jake on August 21, 2009, 05:36:14 PM
Right call.  :clapping
Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 21, 2009, 05:38:55 PM
After the last 3 weeks, he has come a distant last.
Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: Ox on August 21, 2009, 06:08:32 PM
He's a loser - gimmee a stuffen break  ::)
Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 21, 2009, 06:32:21 PM
job too big for him and his softness.

Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: Gigantor on August 21, 2009, 06:44:03 PM
I feel sorry for jade.he inherited a team that was torn appart by what had happened the previous month.There wasnt much he could in such a short time.
How could he introduce new structures and game plans in the middle of the season,all he could do was man the helm ,and thats what he did
Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: the_boy_jake on August 21, 2009, 06:56:40 PM
I feel sorry for jade.he inherited a team that was torn appart by what had happened the previous month.There wasnt much he could in such a short time.


The clubs been struggling for longer than a month.

I think the last few weeks have shown how deep the problem runs. Jade has < 2 years coaching experience. Getting someone who has seen a club rebuilt might just be better for us.
Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: Tigermonk on August 21, 2009, 06:57:19 PM
Rawlings was nothing but the scapegoat to do the dirty work for the club & he knew that from the start

move on get over it  ;D
Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: Rodgerramjet on August 21, 2009, 08:35:41 PM
Look, taking on that job mid season as a caretaker coach and hoping to influence the decision makers to giving you the Job full time, is like diving on a live grenade and hoping to survive the blast, he was a dead man walking.

Jade needs an apprenticeship. Would be good to see him get himself under a good coach and learn the ropes, he was about 5 years to early for the gig,
Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: bojangles17 on August 21, 2009, 08:59:34 PM
he could be anything as coach however lacks the depth of experience to take the reigns FT...needs a stint at a successful club and he may just be cherry ripe in a few years for us to bring back in a succession plan after we've won a couple of flags :shh
Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 21, 2009, 10:00:31 PM
I have to say it was poor form on Pickering's part

Any announcement should come from the club not Liam Pickering
Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: Infamy on August 22, 2009, 01:21:45 AM
I don't understand the insults and vitriol directed at Jade over his caretaker role. No one could have done any better, you can't turn around the list in such a short period of time. Others have had 5 years and done less than he has in 10 weeks.
I'd be happy for him to remain at the club, either as coach of Coburg or as a match day assistant (or both).

A little respect would be nice for a change, He may not be the man to take over, but he shows passion for the club and he at least he had a go. His honesty and youthful exuberance was refreshing to see from an AFL senior coach.
Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: one-eyed on August 22, 2009, 03:16:19 AM
Malthouse on Rawlings in today's Weekend Australian....

Jade Rawlings did not enhance his prospects with the way Richmond lost to Collingwood last weekend. I know that one game does not make a season but in coaching, the buck stops with you.

You can blame the past, you can blame the culture, you can blame all sorts of things, but the simple fact is, regardless of whether you are temporary or a full-time coach, you are responsible for the side's performances.

Jade now has two games to demonstrate he can take full control of his side and have them play the sort of football he wants them to play. The team has to perform in a competitive, disciplined manner, and then his hat will be back in the ring.

The Tigers now have the upper hand on any decision because all the other jobs are taken. They can sit and wait until they believe they have the right prospect. There is no need to panic or rush, they can wait until the end of the finals if they wish.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25962869-32103,00.html
Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 22, 2009, 07:52:54 AM
I don't understand the insults and vitriol directed at Jade over his caretaker role. No one could have done any better, you can't turn around the list in such a short period of time. Others have had 5 years and done less than he has in 10 weeks.
I'd be happy for him to remain at the club, either as coach of Coburg or as a match day assistant (or both).

A little respect would be nice for a change, He may not be the man to take over, but he shows passion for the club and he at least he had a go. His honesty and youthful exuberance was refreshing to see from an AFL senior coach.

Your comments prove about your knowledge of the games.
You havent been watching the kicks ins to contests for the last 3 weeks.
You havent watched the pathetic efforts by our ruckman at stopages , especially in D 50-repeatedly hitting the ball the opposite way that they should.(Thus Simmons is back this week )
You havent watched players running to the interchange at stoppages leaving as one short on the ground.
this is suburban footy stuff I am afraid.
And very rarely do we try and spread at stoppages ( Apart from Lids and Cuz )
This is basic football stuff, dont blame the players , its a coaching thing.
Would think the Malthouse article is 100% on the money, although Jades future is now determined by his own lack of ability
Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: Gigantor on August 22, 2009, 08:08:09 AM
Must admit  i have noticed the seeming interchange indecision as well...i havent been able to figure it out and just thought it was another way of conveying a message to the players....But did think it was strange and didnt look good .
Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 22, 2009, 08:30:48 AM
Must admit  i have noticed the seeming interchange indecision as well...i havent been able to figure it out and just thought it was another way of conveying a message to the players....But did think it was strange and didnt look good .

Mate its a disgrace.
Doesnt even happen at Suburban footy, but if happens at Richmond :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 22, 2009, 08:31:26 AM
You havent watched players running to the interchange at stoppages leaving as one short on the ground.

So seeing Geelong did the same thing last night in the final qtr with the game in the balance is Mark Thompson in line for some of your rhetoric?

or did you miss that

Quote

This is basic football stuff, dont blame the players , its a coaching thing.

Sorry if players are given instructions and DON'T follow them, is that a coaching thing or a player thing?

Whatever time to move on

 

Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 22, 2009, 08:41:50 AM
You havent watched players running to the interchange at stoppages leaving as one short on the ground.
[q/uote]

So seeing Geelong did the same thing last night in the final qtr with the game in the balance is Mark Thompson in line for some of your rhetoric?

or did you miss that

Quote

This is basic football stuff, dont blame the players , its a coaching thing.

Sorry if players are given instructions and DON'T follow them, is that a coaching thing or a player thing?

Whatever time to move on

 



Was watching the cricket. :thumbsup :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: Infamy on August 22, 2009, 11:15:12 AM
I don't understand the insults and vitriol directed at Jade over his caretaker role. No one could have done any better, you can't turn around the list in such a short period of time. Others have had 5 years and done less than he has in 10 weeks.
I'd be happy for him to remain at the club, either as coach of Coburg or as a match day assistant (or both).

A little respect would be nice for a change, He may not be the man to take over, but he shows passion for the club and he at least he had a go. His honesty and youthful exuberance was refreshing to see from an AFL senior coach.

Your comments prove about your knowledge of the games.
You havent been watching the kicks ins to contests for the last 3 weeks.
You havent watched the pathetic efforts by our ruckman at stopages , especially in D 50-repeatedly hitting the ball the opposite way that they should.(Thus Simmons is back this week )
You havent watched players running to the interchange at stoppages leaving as one short on the ground.
this is suburban footy stuff I am afraid.
And very rarely do we try and spread at stoppages ( Apart from Lids and Cuz )
This is basic football stuff, dont blame the players , its a coaching thing.
Would think the Malthouse article is 100% on the money, although Jades future is now determined by his own lack of ability
Well in case you hadn't noticed, for most of this year he was a suburban level coach.
He's a caretaker, he managed to get the side playing spirited football for a couple of weeks here and there after taking over the side.
Things have gone pear shaped in recent weeks, however I don't see that as a reason to hate him, or to insult him
Critisise him all you like, however the insults and pure hatred directed towards him by some people are well over the top and just highlights how primitive some people on this forum are.

Plus it's not all Jades fault anyway. The last few weeks our side hasn't run at all, so unless Jade's instructions are just to mingle around on the ground, they aren't following instruction. His comments in press conferences would also highlight that its the PLAYERS who aren't working for their team mates and aren't working hard enough.
Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: Ramps on August 22, 2009, 11:23:51 AM
theres no need to go after Jade. Jade was entitled to go for the job. In reality he has potential but its probably 5 years away for Jade to win a senior AFL job. In the mean time he should go to a club and get a flag whether its in the VFL or at suburban level.
Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 22, 2009, 01:31:21 PM
I don't understand the insults and vitriol directed at Jade over his caretaker role. No one could have done any better, you can't turn around the list in such a short period of time. Others have had 5 years and done less than he has in 10 weeks.
I'd be happy for him to remain at the club, either as coach of Coburg or as a match day assistant (or both).

A little respect would be nice for a change, He may not be the man to take over, but he shows passion for the club and he at least he had a go. His honesty and youthful exuberance was refreshing to see from an AFL senior coach.

Your comments prove about your knowledge of the games.
You havent been watching the kicks ins to contests for the last 3 weeks.
You havent watched the pathetic efforts by our ruckman at stopages , especially in D 50-repeatedly hitting the ball the opposite way that they should.(Thus Simmons is back this week )
You havent watched players running to the interchange at stoppages leaving as one short on the ground.
this is suburban footy stuff I am afraid.
And very rarely do we try and spread at stoppages ( Apart from Lids and Cuz )
This is basic football stuff, dont blame the players , its a coaching thing.
Would think the Malthouse article is 100% on the money, although Jades future is now determined by his own lack of ability
Well in case you hadn't noticed, for most of this year he was a suburban level coach.
He's a caretaker, he managed to get the side playing spirited football for a couple of weeks here and there after taking over the side.
Things have gone pear shaped in recent weeks, however I don't see that as a reason to hate him, or to insult him
Critisise him all you like, however the insults and pure hatred directed towards him by some people are well over the top and just highlights how primitive some people on this forum are.

Plus it's not all Jades fault anyway. The last few weeks our side hasn't run at all, so unless Jade's instructions are just to mingle around on the ground, they aren't following instruction. His comments in press conferences would also highlight that its the PLAYERS who aren't working for their team mates and aren't working hard enough.

hey imbecile, where have i insulted Jade ??
All I said he cant coach.
Pretty simple isnt it.
Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 22, 2009, 01:50:51 PM
Might just add . I know who can coach ?
Watching VFL on TV, Gary Ayres has more idea than people think.His quarter time speach real good. Much better than Wallace used to do
Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 22, 2009, 02:40:45 PM
Might just add . I know who can coach ?
Watching VFL on TV, Gary Ayres has more idea than people think.His quarter time speach real good. Much better than Wallace used to do

that's very funny.

Although at VFL level he is very good. He is a good example of what can be achieved when the coach has the total support of all around him , which is what he has at Port Melb (especially from the past  players)

Which is sadly something that has been seriously lacking at Richmond for ages
Title: Re: Rawlings out of the running
Post by: Infamy on August 22, 2009, 02:42:44 PM
I don't understand the insults and vitriol directed at Jade over his caretaker role. No one could have done any better, you can't turn around the list in such a short period of time. Others have had 5 years and done less than he has in 10 weeks.
I'd be happy for him to remain at the club, either as coach of Coburg or as a match day assistant (or both).

A little respect would be nice for a change, He may not be the man to take over, but he shows passion for the club and he at least he had a go. His honesty and youthful exuberance was refreshing to see from an AFL senior coach.

Your comments prove about your knowledge of the games.
You havent been watching the kicks ins to contests for the last 3 weeks.
You havent watched the pathetic efforts by our ruckman at stopages , especially in D 50-repeatedly hitting the ball the opposite way that they should.(Thus Simmons is back this week )
You havent watched players running to the interchange at stoppages leaving as one short on the ground.
this is suburban footy stuff I am afraid.
And very rarely do we try and spread at stoppages ( Apart from Lids and Cuz )
This is basic football stuff, dont blame the players , its a coaching thing.
Would think the Malthouse article is 100% on the money, although Jades future is now determined by his own lack of ability
Well in case you hadn't noticed, for most of this year he was a suburban level coach.
He's a caretaker, he managed to get the side playing spirited football for a couple of weeks here and there after taking over the side.
Things have gone pear shaped in recent weeks, however I don't see that as a reason to hate him, or to insult him
Critisise him all you like, however the insults and pure hatred directed towards him by some people are well over the top and just highlights how primitive some people on this forum are.

Plus it's not all Jades fault anyway. The last few weeks our side hasn't run at all, so unless Jade's instructions are just to mingle around on the ground, they aren't following instruction. His comments in press conferences would also highlight that its the PLAYERS who aren't working for their team mates and aren't working hard enough.

hey imbecile, where have i insulted Jade ??
All I said he cant coach.
Pretty simple isnt it.
Who said I was talking about you? I'm just reponding to your comments to me