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Title: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: one-eyed on April 19, 2010, 07:22:58 PM
Richo - the Final Farewell

(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/images_richmond/richofarewell_246a.jpg)

--- Celebration of a true Tiger Champion ---

The Richmond Football Club is honoring one of its greatest-ever players

Proudly presented by: Auslab

Join us on an unforgettable night, where we celebrate the extraordinary Richmond life and times of Matthew Richardson, and re-live the moments, players and individuals, who helped shape his wonderful career.

The night also features Jon Stevens live in concert!

Saturday, June 5, 2010

Plenary, Melbourne Convention and Exhibition Centre
1 Convention Centre Place, South Wharf



Official Flyer: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/portals/0/richmond_docs/richo%20farewell%20flyer%20LR.pdf (http://www.richmondfc.com.au/portals/0/richmond_docs/richo%20farewell%20flyer%20LR.pdf)

We are pleased to offer two ticket options for the evening ...

Option 1. - The Dinner Package

$350 per person

Time: 7.00pm – midnight Dress: Lounge suit

Package includes:
• Premium seating (dinner seating area) for the entire five-hour event;
• Three-course meal and five-hour premium beverage package;
• Current and former players seated within this area;
• Exclusive Richo set of playing cards;
• Up close and personal to all the action.

The dinner seating is located on the ground-floor area of the Plenary. Tables will be allocated in groups of 10.

* Please note – numbers are strictly limited for this event

How to Book:
There are four booking options for tickets:
• Book direct at the RFC reception
• Call (03) 9429 5333 to book with a credit card
• Send in the booking form (below) to the Club at:
‘Richmond Football Club. P.O. Box 48, Richmond, VIC. 3121
• Fax booking form (below) to 03 9421 2846

HOW TO PAY:
There are four payment options:
• Cheque (made payable to Richmond Football Club)
• Money Order
• Credit Card
• Cash (payable only at RFC reception)
* Credit card purchases will attract a 2% surcharge


Option 2. - GENERAL SEATING

Time: 8.30pm – 10.30pm Dress: Casual

A two-hour general seating option is also available.

General seating is located in the tiered seating area.

The general seating option consists of the following:
8.30pm – 9.30pm Richo Tribute Show
9.30pm Interval
10.00pm – 10.30pm Jon Stevens live in concert

Tickets for general seating will go on sale as follows:
• Thursday April 22 to Members, and then:
• Wednesday April 28 to general public, if not sold out.

No tickets for the tiered seating area will be sold through the RFC and the price will be released on richmondfc.com.au and ticketek.com.au on the 22nd April.

Please note, all bookings for general seating are via Ticketek.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/events/richothefinalfarewell/tabid/15961/default.aspx
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Carvels Ring on April 19, 2010, 07:25:52 PM
Jon Stevens oh dear oh dear.  WTF are they thinking? ???
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Fishfinger on April 19, 2010, 07:29:07 PM
First thing I thought when I saw it, CR.  ;D

Should be John Farnham so he can have a final farewell with someone else instead of the 20 or 30 he's had on his own.
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 19, 2010, 07:29:44 PM
$350.00 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
And what about the 2 hour general ticket.
1 hour Richo Show
1/2 hour interval ::)
1/2 Jon Stevens live ::)
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Carvels Ring on April 19, 2010, 07:35:24 PM
I'd pay five hundred if they reduced Jon Stevnes to about 0mins.
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 19, 2010, 08:31:23 PM
$350.00 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
And what about the 2 hour general ticket.
1 hour Richo Show
1/2 hour interval ::)
1/2 Jon Stevens live ::)

Have to agree jack $350 a head is a disgrace. Puts it out of reach for the "average" (and I hate that term btw) supporter. Out of protest and disgust I wont be going  :banghead :banghead

And as for the 2 hour ticket can't even tell us how much that is going to cost

Really wanted to support this because Richo deserves it but at $350 a head forget it  :banghead

Disgraceful effort RFC   
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 19, 2010, 08:35:27 PM
$350.00 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
And what about the 2 hour general ticket.
1 hour Richo Show
1/2 hour interval ::)
1/2 Jon Stevens live ::)

Have to agree jack $350 a head is a disgrace. Puts it out of reach for the "average" (and I hate that term btw) supporter. Out of protest an disgust I wont be going  :banghead :banghead

And as for the 2 hour ticket can't even tell us how much that is going to cost

Really wanted to support this because Richo deserves it but at $350 a head forget it  :banghead

Disgraceful effort RFC   

Totally agree.
Rather put $350.00 on the bar and have a drink with him. :cheers
RFC could have done something really good for Mat.
Like a function at the Tennis Centre or somewhere similiar and done a good job at it.
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Carvels Ring on April 19, 2010, 09:12:04 PM
It's ordinary from the club, but what did you expect.  They rely on our faith and our emotion.  The price is out of reach but I am sure some of our everyday battlers will find a way to go.  Just make sure you get out before Jon Stevens takes the stage guys.
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Mr Magic on April 19, 2010, 11:02:32 PM
What on earth is this?

I thought Richo said that his farewell at the G was the last hurrah and then we'd all move on?

I'll go so far as to say this is very poor judgement from the club & I am surprised Richo has agreed to it as well.

Should be John Farnham

Gold.
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Infamy on April 19, 2010, 11:47:31 PM
Sounds like the club is trying to milk every last $ out of the supporters it can using Richo's name.
Probably trying to make up for the loss of income from the drop in members
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Owl on April 20, 2010, 09:13:03 AM
$350 huh?  I take it the wine won't be in goonies?  Each table place will be set with multiple plastic forks and knives for each course of pie and sauce and the entre of chips with sauce and of course the alternative vegetarian pastie.  Dessert will be a vanilla slice.
Richo will be doing a Jazz ballet piece to a musical rendition of up there Cazaly where he will take speccies off of Mike sheahans back and occasionally tackle him depending on the verse of the song.  Mike Sheahan will be trussed and ball gagged for the event, and probably for the night.
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: cub on April 20, 2010, 09:45:05 AM
Maybe this is where they can reward the average punters who have supported the club though thin - Maybe they could tier the pricing accordiningly in line with the loyalty program instead of just the loaded up showbags getting the gigs for these types of things all the time.
Alas Chow Cho I wont be there  :thumbsup

Jon Stevens - YGTBFKMLMOAFO
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: TigerLand on April 20, 2010, 10:26:37 AM
It had to be $350. It was orginally 5k for a table of 10 and they sacled it down. The price is fine I'd pay $500 for this event. Members should get a discount though.

The problem is that what you get for $350 isn't weighted properly.

Meals
Free grog
A set of Richo playing cards.

Not fussed at the price the club has set but surely a better package can be arranged. An exclusive signed Richo farewell memorabilia would be all required.

They will sell every ticket of the $350 variety within weeks regardless of the price. The club has done the right thing, if you can't afford it you can still attend the general area. If they made a dinner for Richo $100 they'd get 40,000 wanting to go and it'd feel meaningless and impersonal. If you want enough to go and be apart of it you'll pay $350 and it'll be worth it. If you can't afford it unfortunatly thats life, if you can't afford a seasoned reserved ticket, 2nd tier, front row, southern stand, in the forward pocket - thats just life. You'll also find that many 30-50 year old women absolutly love Jon Stevens and would pay $100 to see him on his own lol.

Benny Gales testimonial was amazing and I'll never forget it. My parents paid for me can't remember how much it was but it didn't have every man and his dog attending and was a fantastic night.

They've caterored for both walks of life. The club needs money I'll pour out $350 for a function that see's off Richo. It makes it more exclusive for the people who want to go, sure hurts the bank balance and the club finacially is better off.



Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: TigerLand on April 20, 2010, 10:31:15 AM
As far as the General Seating price:

No tickets for the tiered seating area will be sold through the RFC and the price will be released on richmondfc.com.au and ticketek.com.au on 22 April.
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 20, 2010, 10:36:01 AM
will they show how shocking his kicking is in his highlights package  lol

for a so calle dgun he could not kick thats why he will neve rbe a champion

and ppl back riewoldt who is a much better kick than richo

lol, if they showed richos f ups, the nite would never end lol
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Infamy on April 20, 2010, 10:41:51 AM
and ppl back riewoldt who is a much better kick than richo
Matthew Richardson: 800 Goals 551 Behinds = 59.2% Conversion rate
Jack Riewoldt: 65 Goals 49 Behinds = 57.0% Conversion rate

Wayne Carey: 727 Goals 457 Behinds = 61.4% Conversion rate
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 20, 2010, 10:56:40 AM
and ppl back riewoldt who is a much better kick than richo
Matthew Richardson: 800 Goals 551 Behinds = 59.2% Conversion rate
Jack Riewoldt: 65 Goals 49 Behinds = 57.0% Conversion rate

Wayne Carey: 727 Goals 457 Behinds = 61.4% Conversion rate

those stats are misleading, dont count all the  total misses , OOBOTF etc

and also richos feild kicking


jack has a much better left foot kick and is a much better kick in general play

and i will bet u what u want that by the time jacks career is over he will have a better % strike rate than richo


now im not saying richo was a hack , he was a very good player but not a champion, not elite

another thing, jack is a smarter team player than richo, astburys first goal set up by jacks slap out where he tapped the ball infront of astbury running infront of goal was fantastic, richo would never have done that

there are many upsides to jack, he is a footballer and his kicking will come good

richo missed many goals from the goal square ffs  :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: tigersalive on April 20, 2010, 10:58:52 AM
will they show how shocking his kicking is in his highlights package  lol

for a so calle dgun he could not kick thats why he will neve rbe a champion

and ppl back riewoldt who is a much better kick than richo

lol, if they showed richos f ups, the nite would never end lol


Just when I thought you were emerging from the dark side.

Don't look backwards, look forwards.   :thumbsup

And even if you don't agree that he was a champion,  acknowledge that he was a popular player that kept supporters coming to the footy week after week just to watch the big guy play.
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Infamy on April 20, 2010, 11:47:11 AM
those stats are misleading, dont count all the  total misses , OOBOTF etc
How did I know that excuse would be used.
They don't take into account any players misses, now I know Richo kicked a fair few out on the full, but certainly not enough to skew his conversion rate by a significant amount.
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Tigermonk on April 20, 2010, 11:52:43 AM
and ppl back riewoldt who is a much better kick than richo
Matthew Richardson: 800 Goals 551 Behinds = 59.2% Conversion rate
Jack Riewoldt: 65 Goals 49 Behinds = 57.0% Conversion rate

Wayne Carey: 727 Goals 457 Behinds = 61.4% Conversion rate

Bit Stupid comparing Full Forwards to  Centre Half Forwards
Carey kicked most of his goals from outside 50 or hotly contested

Richo & Rewoldt together wouldnot blow wind up Wayne Carey Ass & would be his ass kissers  ;D
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 20, 2010, 12:02:05 PM
will they show how shocking his kicking is in his highlights package  lol

for a so calle dgun he could not kick thats why he will neve rbe a champion

and ppl back riewoldt who is a much better kick than richo

lol, if they showed richos f ups, the nite would never end lol


Just when I thought you were emerging from the dark side.

Don't look backwards, look forwards.   :thumbsup

And even if you don't agree that he was a champion,  acknowledge that he was a popular player that kept supporters coming to the footy week after week just to watch the big guy play.

i love the cho

his work etthic was fantastic, he was flawed but yes we loved watching him play, and im sure if he never did his kneee he would have been a total elite champion

i watched jack closely on sunday, he was very richo like

he was everywhere, covered heaps of territory, was pashionate and screwd up easy shots on goal

i just hope ppl give jack a chance, richo had his chance why not jack
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Tigermonk on April 20, 2010, 12:06:00 PM
will they show how shocking his kicking is in his highlights package  lol

for a so calle dgun he could not kick thats why he will neve rbe a champion

and ppl back riewoldt who is a much better kick than richo

lol, if they showed richos f ups, the nite would never end lol


Just when I thought you were emerging from the dark side.

Don't look backwards, look forwards.   :thumbsup

And even if you don't agree that he was a champion,  acknowledge that he was a popular player that kept supporters coming to the footy week after week just to watch the big guy play.

i love the cho

his work etthic was fantastic, he was flawed but yes we loved watching him play, and im sure if he never did his kneee he would have been a total elite champion

i watched jack closely on sunday, he was very richo like

he was everywhere, covered heaps of territory, was pashionate and screwd up easy shots on goal

i just hope ppl give jack a chance, richo had his chance why not jack

can tell ya mate he will turn his back on us & be at the Saints if he ever comes good  ::)
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Infamy on April 20, 2010, 12:21:58 PM
and ppl back riewoldt who is a much better kick than richo
Matthew Richardson: 800 Goals 551 Behinds = 59.2% Conversion rate
Jack Riewoldt: 65 Goals 49 Behinds = 57.0% Conversion rate

Wayne Carey: 727 Goals 457 Behinds = 61.4% Conversion rate

Bit Stupid comparing Full Forwards to  Centre Half Forwards
Carey kicked most of his goals from outside 50 or hotly contested

Richo & Rewoldt together wouldnot blow wind up Wayne Carey Ass & would be his ass kissers  ;D
Richo was a CHF more than a FF
He played a few seasons there under Fraudley, but so did Carey at the Crows
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 20, 2010, 12:25:24 PM
will they show how shocking his kicking is in his highlights package  lol

for a so calle dgun he could not kick thats why he will neve rbe a champion

and ppl back riewoldt who is a much better kick than richo

lol, if they showed richos f ups, the nite would never end lol


Just when I thought you were emerging from the dark side.

Don't look backwards, look forwards.   :thumbsup

And even if you don't agree that he was a champion,  acknowledge that he was a popular player that kept supporters coming to the footy week after week just to watch the big guy play.

i love the cho

his work etthic was fantastic, he was flawed but yes we loved watching him play, and im sure if he never did his kneee he would have been a total elite champion

i watched jack closely on sunday, he was very richo like

he was everywhere, covered heaps of territory, was pashionate and screwd up easy shots on goal

i just hope ppl give jack a chance, richo had his chance why not jack

can tell ya mate he will turn his back on us & be at the Saints if he ever comes good  ::)


if thats the case we should trade but only if we win the deal
but i doubt it i think he will stay a tiger
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Penelope on April 20, 2010, 01:47:18 PM
will they show how shocking his kicking is in his highlights package  lol

for a so calle dgun he could not kick thats why he will neve rbe a champion

and ppl back riewoldt who is a much better kick than richo

lol, if they showed richos f ups, the nite would never end lol


Just when I thought you were emerging from the dark side.

Don't look backwards, look forwards.   :thumbsup

And even if you don't agree that he was a champion,  acknowledge that he was a popular player that kept supporters coming to the footy week after week just to watch the big guy play.

i love the cho

his work etthic was fantastic, he was flawed but yes we loved watching him play, and im sure if he never did his kneee he would have been a total elite champion

i watched jack closely on sunday, he was very richo like

he was everywhere, covered heaps of territory, was pashionate and screwd up easy shots on goal

i just hope ppl give jack a chance, richo had his chance why not jack

can tell ya mate he will turn his back on us & be at the Saints if he ever comes good  ::)


Considering the mindless baggings he gets from some of the supporters you couldn't really blame him if he did.

Maybe, as some people seem to think is the way to go, we should wait until  he is playing consistant good football and trade him while he is worth something :whistle
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Beren on April 20, 2010, 03:11:59 PM
Option 2 will be $44 I'm told.
After attending the Centenary Gala & paying top price (which I felt was a tad too much) I think $350 for what you get is quite reasonable.

And it won't be only RFC people there.
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: yellowandback on April 21, 2010, 07:49:20 AM
Way too expensive. To me, it's not about whether you can afford it but if it represents fair value.
I'd rather upgrade my membership. Who gets the money?
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: TigerLand on April 21, 2010, 11:47:19 AM
and ppl back riewoldt who is a much better kick than richo
Matthew Richardson: 800 Goals 551 Behinds = 59.2% Conversion rate
Jack Riewoldt: 65 Goals 49 Behinds = 57.0% Conversion rate

Wayne Carey: 727 Goals 457 Behinds = 61.4% Conversion rate

those stats are misleading, dont count all the  total misses , OOBOTF etc

and also richos feild kicking


jack has a much better left foot kick and is a much better kick in general play

and i will bet u what u want that by the time jacks career is over he will have a better % strike rate than richo


now im not saying richo was a hack , he was a very good player but not a champion, not elite

another thing, jack is a smarter team player than richo, astburys first goal set up by jacks slap out where he tapped the ball infront of astbury running infront of goal was fantastic, richo would never have done that

there are many upsides to jack, he is a footballer and his kicking will come good

richo missed many goals from the goal square ffs  :banghead :banghead

Who cares X.

Its Richo's testimonial. Who cares about his deficiencies or other players. Best contested mark in the last 20 years.

Was the main reason most of us turned up to the footy for the last 15 years.

Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: one-eyed on June 06, 2010, 05:13:46 AM
For those that went how was the Richo farewell night?
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Go Richo 12 on June 06, 2010, 07:57:41 AM
and ppl back riewoldt who is a much better kick than richo
Matthew Richardson: 800 Goals 551 Behinds = 59.2% Conversion rate
Jack Riewoldt: 65 Goals 49 Behinds = 57.0% Conversion rate

Wayne Carey: 727 Goals 457 Behinds = 61.4% Conversion rate

Bit Stupid comparing Full Forwards to  Centre Half Forwards
Carey kicked most of his goals from outside 50 or hotly contested

Richo & Rewoldt together wouldnot blow wind up Wayne Carey Ass & would be his ass kissers  ;D
:gobdrop
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: bojangles17 on June 06, 2010, 10:05:14 AM
will they show how shocking his kicking is in his highlights package  lol

for a so calle dgun he could not kick thats why he will neve rbe a champion

and ppl back riewoldt who is a much better kick than richo

lol, if they showed richos f ups, the nite would never end lol

whata a dkhead, like there's a forward born every minute that will kick 800 in their career :lol...
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: 2JD on June 06, 2010, 10:26:46 AM
For those that went how was the Richo farewell night?
I went, had a great night. Was good light entertainment,  stories told by team mates past and present, his family, ex coaches. Clips of his past, good and bad . And Richo was as Richo is in front of a crowd, humble, nervous, funny and mostly totally genuine.
I only had the $40 seat, so only stayed till after Jon Stevens finished, but I'm glad I went, it was a night that made you feel like part of the Richo story.
Nathan Bower was funny, said he only got to play with grumpy Richo who "yelled at us a lot" and wishes he got to play with the cuddly Richo who everyone loved. :gotigers
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: TigerTimeII on June 06, 2010, 10:33:02 AM
will they show how shocking his kicking is in his highlights package  lol

for a so calle dgun he could not kick thats why he will neve rbe a champion

and ppl back riewoldt who is a much better kick than richo

lol, if they showed richos f ups, the nite would never end lol

whata a dkhead, like there's a forward born every minute that will kick 800 in their career :lol...

ur the dh and just look at it in a biased way

richo was a great player, maybe it was just bad luck for him he played for us, but he is not in the champion status of a carey , ablett snr  dunstall lockett etc. yes he was a great player , but his deficiencies prevent him from being a champion

great club man, great player, great bloke, but not a champions, chokers are not champions
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: the_boy_jake on June 06, 2010, 10:36:40 AM

I only had the $40 seat, so only stayed till after Jon Stevens finished

I'm curious, how did they move you out.

Did they move the function to another room, or was it "OK its time for those of you in the $40 seats to leave"
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Beren on June 06, 2010, 11:47:42 AM
Night was absolutely brilliant.
There's a report on Y&B if you feel like moseying on over there.
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: 2JD on June 06, 2010, 11:51:29 AM

I only had the $40 seat, so only stayed till after Jon Stevens finished

I'm curious, how did they move you out.

Did they move the function to another room, or was it "OK its time for those of you in the $40 seats to leave"

We were separate, sorta like the grand final footy show, where there are tables and chairs on the floor for dining, then seating goes up on an angle. We left before we had to, but i dare say people probably got to mingle, we spoke to a lot of players in the foyer and heading towrds the casino
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: bojangles17 on June 06, 2010, 12:17:29 PM
will they show how shocking his kicking is in his highlights package  lol

for a so calle dgun he could not kick thats why he will neve rbe a champion

and ppl back riewoldt who is a much better kick than richo

lol, if they showed richos f ups, the nite would never end lol

whata a dkhead, like there's a forward born every minute that will kick 800 in their career :lol...

ur the dh and just look at it in a biased way

richo was a great player, maybe it was just bad luck for him he played for us, but he is not in the champion status of a carey , ablett snr  dunstall lockett etc. yes he was a great player , but his deficiencies prevent him from being a champion

great club man, great player, great bloke, but not a champions, chokers are not champions

nahhh, njot a champion, so he is in the top 10 or 12 goalkickers of all time and just a good player and didnt even play FF his entire career...take a break from your bitter pills and go buy some perspective ya dill...His career stands him amongst the very elite players to have played this great game...Top 12 from more than 10,000 players that have been listed as afl/vfl players, and he's just good :lol...take it from me partner, don't join a debating club
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: TigerTimeII on June 06, 2010, 12:27:48 PM
will they show how shocking his kicking is in his highlights package  lol

for a so calle dgun he could not kick thats why he will neve rbe a champion

and ppl back riewoldt who is a much better kick than richo

lol, if they showed richos f ups, the nite would never end lol

whata a dkhead, like there's a forward born every minute that will kick 800 in their career :lol...

ur the dh and just look at it in a biased way

richo was a great player, maybe it was just bad luck for him he played for us, but he is not in the champion status of a carey , ablett snr  dunstall lockett etc. yes he was a great player , but his deficiencies prevent him from being a champion

great club man, great player, great bloke, but not a champions, chokers are not champions

nahhh, njot a champion, so he is in the top 10 or 12 goalkickers of all time and just a good player and didnt even play FF his entire career...take a break from your bitter pills and go buy some perspective ya dill...His career stands him amongst the very elite players to have played this great game...Top 12 from more than 10,000 players that have been listed as afl/vfl players, and he's just good :lol...take it from me partner, don't join a debating club

i think u shouldnt join a debating club

richo was a great player no doubt but not a champion

he is not in the league of a dunstall, locket, carey, ablett , hart, lloyd, j brown, he is beneath them, they were champions, they stood up when needed, never choked

u r just biased, im not bitter u tool, im just realistic, i would have royxe gart as my preferred chf than richo and wane carey and j brown
richo is not as good as them and they are champions
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Ramps on June 06, 2010, 12:44:22 PM
I AGREE He is behind most of those you mentioned X but if I was selecting a team to play and I had to choose between Richo and Lloyd ... I would pick Richo every day of the week every week!
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: TigerLand on June 06, 2010, 02:18:25 PM

Richo's Farewell:


Went last night and lucky enough to have my $350 ticket bought for me by a mate who owns has own business and took 10 of us mates and will ride it off as a tax receipt. Thanks Ridge.

Rocked up in a bus at about 6:30 for when the doors opened at 7pm. Stood around in the foyer, Simon Jones was walking round interviewing a few guests about Richo possibly for the Footy Show.

Few players rocked up. Jake King and, Nahas and Foley by themselves and then a posse of Nason, Edwards, Martin, Deledio and Cotchin who all seemed in a really good mood having a laugh. Graham then rocked up and then the doors opened and we went in.

Tables were set up like the GF Footy show in the ground floor with a stand behind us. The front tables were Richo and Richo's family and friends. The left back side were player and officials that came and the right back where the members and guests. Couldn't believe our luck when we were in the middle, our table the table next to the players. In front of us were Craig Cameron/Tony Free and Wayne Campbell rocked up and sat down. To our left Cousins rocked up early with his partner and was the first player sat to our left. Luke McGuane came with his partner (Who has an amazing rig ;)) and then a big group of players was seated to our other left with Nason, Collins, Deledio, Cotchin, Tuck, Martin and Edwards. Chris Newman rocked up last with his partner (by far the hottest of the bunch, he's done real well) and sat next to Cousins. Riewoldt then rocked up and got a few jeers from the boys and he looked embarrassed lol.

On each table were a set of limited addition Richo cards from every season he's played and a portrait of each season. Pretty good quality stuff. Red and White wine ready with Premium Beer... Gippsland Beer  :banghead :banghead Was pretty dirty on this.. Plus they weren't twist top and needed a waiter to open every beer I drank. Annoying. On each table was a signed jersey by Richo. To win it you had to win the table raffle. We all were mates so we just bought 1 ticket and drew a short straw who got it. Tables that were mixed with different people this could have gotten ugly lol.

Gary March started off proceedings and welcomed everyone and gave a huge wrap to Richo etc.

Sandy Roberts hosted to the night and was first class. The formal proceedings started with people from Richos life being interviewed by Sandy Roberts.

Video testaments:
Peter Knights: Said some kind words about Richo as a junior and how he's really proud to have helped him in any way and wishes him the best.
Robert Walls: Wished him all the best and said whenever he sees the Nylex Clock near punt road he thinks of Richo because when ever Walls was talking in a team meeting he'd always see Richo looking at the Nylex clock and counting down how long it was till Walls was finished.
Danny Frawley: Classy speech. Gave a huge wrap to Richo and also mentioned most of the grey hairs in his head are a testament to him lol. Spoke real well.
Sam Newman: Got stuck in straight away about him going to Channel 7 and wished him all the best with his new Footy Show and then apologized that he forgot it got canned (Good laugh). Got on the front foot and labelled Richo as a legend of the game and a legend of a person.

Then it was time for some stage interviews:

Richo's Mum and Sister:
Talked about his younger years. Richo's mum Diane (I think) seemed like a lovely woman. His sister was very funny and had some great stories or Richo trying to pick up her friends when they'd come over (very big laugh)

Benny Gale: Admitting to loving Richo. On the first day he came back he was wearing a suit and saw Richo for the first time in a while and shook his hand. They both thought that was too formal and had a cuddle instead. He said the one thing he had sleepless nights about when taking the CEO job was the decision he would have to make about Richo's career eventually. He was glad he didn't have to make any decision and that Richo rightfully so got to make his mind up. He's the best player he's ever played with and wrapped he's still involved at the club and is one of his best mates. He said he's very much like his mum and over organises things. His first day back at the club in his new role he rocked up in a suit and briefcase. Came into his office opened up his briefcase that had everything from pen and pencils to a calculator and a protractor (big laugh). His first thing on his agenda was the most detailed work his ever seen. A minute by minute fully layed out structure and form of his testimonial night (Big laugh).

Wayne Campbell: Probably the best speaker on the night. Just spoke very well, mixed with good banter and praise. Some funny stories about how he hated Richo because he found it so easy to pick up chicks cause everyone knew him as a footballer. Wayne told of a story where he went to his future wife’s place for dinner and he saw a big poster of Richo on her pinboard and he just gave up and accepted Richo was the man.

Glenn Archer:
Huge effort for Glenn to come and speak, surprised Richo. Glenn said Richo was the best forward he'd seen in his playing time, behind Wayne Carey and thinks he only bet him once 1on1. Funny story of when David King used to sledge Richo and Richo had 5 goals at half time and Glenn in the rooms belted him to stop sledging him and just shut up lol.

Ben Harrison, Nathan Brown and Joel Bowden:
Really funny skit. Harro got stuck into Richo for hooking up with his girlfriend in year 10. Said that every time he got dropped from the seniors Richo would come up to him and say "I've talked to TJ, don't worry you'll be back" Harro said he hated it but thanks as that’s the type of bloke he was.
Nathan Brown's comedy routine was a bit cheesy but funny. Very Nathan Brown. Got stuck into Jake King for being 2ft 3 and Richo 6ft 6 but King would consistency beat Richo in wrestling in the pools when they warmed down. Richo blamed the gravitational pull in the water. He also let the cat out of the bag that for how fit Richo is he smokes about a pack a week and it baffle shim how he's so fit lol.
Joel spoke really well and just thanked Richo for his friendship on and off the field and short and sweetly said that he deserved all the praise he gets tonight as much as it embarrasses him and no1 deserves the hero status from the supporters more than Richo does as he just loves them as much as they love him.

Richo got up to a standing ovation. For the first time I've seen looked really nervous and star struck. May have had a few too many drinks I don't know. Thanked everyone for coming and signalled out his family and best mates, in particular Harro. Thanked the club and every player he'd ever played with and apologized for cracking the poos at anyone. He wished the playing group all the best and our future is bright. He also mentioned that it's not a testimonial and the club gets 100% of all the profits and said have a good night to a big cheer.

Gary March presented Richo with a big Tiger plaque framed of him and the name of every player he's played with.


Jon Stevens came out and no1 payed any attention and mingled and had a peak at the silent auction which had Richo's 1996 State of Origin Jumper signed. Other memorabilia that was being bidded on way over priced but the audience could afford it.

Jon Stevens finally left (He was ok but just was pointless) and an auctioneer came out and auctioned off the Painting of Richo. Went for $55,000... Other items were auctioned off at big money prices. The club would have made an absolute killing.

Jade McCrae and her band were next and were actually pretty good. Richo got up and sang with her for a few songs and got most people interested and had a dance. I even got up lol

By about 11:30 the players started to leave for Crown I presume and I left at about 12 the band still going.

Throughout the night the players did their best to adhere to all requests with a ton of people wanting photos. I can't explain how annoying this would have been but a credit to them all they did it with smiles of their faces. Some were better than others. Chris Newman was noticeably very friendly and approachable. Trent Cotchin was swamped and was pretty classy walked to the other side of the room to take photos with a group that couldn't get to the players as it was too busy.

The players in attendance

Astbury
Collins
Cotchin
Cousins
Deledio
Edwards
Farmer
Foley
Graham
Jackson
King
Martin
McGuane
Moore
Nahas
Nason
Newman
Riewoldt
Simmonds
Tambling
Thursfield
Tuck
Webberley
White.

No Hardwick (that I could see) Polak, McMahon, Morton.

Past Player I saw:
Kane Johnson
Nathan Brown
Joel Bowden
Ben Harrison
Matthew Allen (Carl/Ess)
Kayne Pettifer

Personally had a chat with Nason and Nahas who are both down to earth level headed guys. Edwards is a real happy bloke as is Tambling. Few players at the end of the night clearly had enough and I don't blame them. Poor old Dustin Martin hardly had a spare second all night and the poor kid looked like he was trying to hide in big groups of players and was never off walking alone lol, by the end of teh night he was looking pretty distressed, would like the club to look after our players a bit more, there were a few die hard supporters that took things to far. The club shoudl have organised for photo opportunities and signatures before the night so everyone had a chance to get there stuff signed. It looked tacky seeing dozens of people interrupt conversations and meals to get posters and jerseys signed.

Had a brief chat to Chris Newman who after tonight I'm sold on keeping at the club. I know I've talked a bit on whether Chris could be traded for a decent pick to keep his currency in a form of a high draft pick but Chris is just Richmond through and through.

Had a chat to Ben Cousins and his partner, Ben has his knockers but ge the guy speaks well, very very very relaxed guy. Was good enough to give up his time and have a chat and shake my hand. He's just a cruisey guy and was real good company.

Thats about it. For those that wanted to know, some players were drinking. McGuane and Farmer looked to be hitting the beers well. Newman, Cousins, Deledio, Astbury and Cotchin all were on the waters.

Overall really good night. $350 a ticket.. I feel bad saying it wasn't worth $350 but the dinner was ordinary and the beer was cheap Gippsland brew. The club would struggle to argue it was worth a $350 tag. Still a good night, however I didn't pay $350 for the night and if I did I think I would have been pretty disappointed in the price.
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: mat073 on June 06, 2010, 02:34:50 PM
Thanks Pope...Sounds like a fantastic evening.After reading your account of the night I feel like I was there too. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Owl on June 06, 2010, 04:46:23 PM
Tks for the great stuff pope.  Sounds like a memorable night.
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Go Richo 12 on June 06, 2010, 05:02:32 PM
will they show how shocking his kicking is in his highlights package  lol

for a so calle dgun he could not kick thats why he will neve rbe a champion

and ppl back riewoldt who is a much better kick than richo

lol, if they showed richos f ups, the nite would never end lol

whata a dkhead, like there's a forward born every minute that will kick 800 in their career :lol...

ur the dh and just look at it in a biased way

richo was a great player, maybe it was just bad luck for him he played for us, but he is not in the champion status of a carey , ablett snr  dunstall lockett etc. yes he was a great player , but his deficiencies prevent him from being a champion

great club man, great player, great bloke, but not a champions, chokers are not champions
There are no set rules that quantify what a champion is and the criteria they need to fill to become one so therefore, in my eyes, he is a champion! Criteria filled!
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Owl on June 06, 2010, 05:53:44 PM
He was also one of the very best contested marks you will ever get to see in your lifetime, and one of the most athletic big men you will get to see with his pace across the ground and the amount ground he covered.  He used to make a contest where there wasn't going to be one or where there would never of been one if it was any other player.  Being a champ isn't measured by just kicking goals, and he met that by shear volume anyway, his mistakes were always highlighted and magnified by the media to accentuate our enduring misery and distorted just how good a player he really was.  The things he did when I saw him live, at his size and weight, were bloody incredible.  Taking marks with multiple big defenders hanging off his arms, chasing down blokes and swatting em with his panther paw lol man that made me laugh, sending em spinning like they were shot by a sniper.  Richo is a stuffing legend.  I wouldn't swap him for anything, flaws and all.
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Go Richo 12 on June 06, 2010, 06:04:47 PM
He was also one of the very best contested marks you will ever get to see in your lifetime, and one of the most athletic big men you will get to see with his pace across the ground and the amount ground he covered.  He used to make a contest where there wasn't going to be one or where there would never of been one if it was any other player.  Being a champ isn't measured by just kicking goals, and he met that by shear volume anyway, his mistakes were always highlighted and magnified by the media to accentuate our enduring misery and distorted just how good a player he really was.  The things he did when I saw him live, at his size and weight, were bloody incredible.  Taking marks with multiple big defenders hanging off his arms, chasing down blokes and swatting em with his panther paw lol man that made me laugh, sending em spinning like they were shot by a sniper.  Richo is a effing legend.  I wouldn't swap him for anything, flaws and all.
I agree fully! I think x is missing the point! Champions make mistakes, carey has made heaps,Ablett snr, so has Cuz, even Tuddy did way back,in fact everyone makes mistakes. Does it matter if it occurs on the footy field? Making mistakes should not stop you from being a champion it reinforces it.......we can be humans and be good at our sport!
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: bojangles17 on June 06, 2010, 06:38:02 PM
thx pope for possibly the best report on an event Ive ever had the pleasure of reading, felt like I was there myself after reading it...cheers sounded like a great night :gotigers
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: tiger till i die on June 06, 2010, 08:02:05 PM
will they show how shocking his kicking is in his highlights package  lol

for a so calle dgun he could not kick thats why he will neve rbe a champion

and ppl back riewoldt who is a much better kick than richo

lol, if they showed richos f ups, the nite would never end lol

whata a dkhead, like there's a forward born every minute that will kick 800 in their career :lol...

ur the dh and just look at it in a biased way

richo was a great player, maybe it was just bad luck for him he played for us, but he is not in the champion status of a carey , ablett snr  dunstall lockett etc. yes he was a great player , but his deficiencies prevent him from being a champion

great club man, great player, great bloke, but not a champions, chokers are not champions

nahhh, njot a champion, so he is in the top 10 or 12 goalkickers of all time and just a good player and didnt even play FF his entire career...take a break from your bitter pills and go buy some perspective ya dill...His career stands him amongst the very elite players to have played this great game...Top 12 from more than 10,000 players that have been listed as afl/vfl players, and he's just good :lol...take it from me partner, don't join a debating club

i think u shouldnt join a debating club

richo was a great player no doubt but not a champion

he is not in the league of a dunstall, locket, carey, ablett , hart, lloyd, j brown, he is beneath them, they were champions, they stood up when needed, never choked

u r just biased, im not bitter u tool, im just realistic, i would have royxe gart as my preferred chf than richo and wane carey and j brown
richo is not as good as them and they are champions

Your a fool X, Richo will go down in hall of fame and will always be remembered. Much longer tha Brown and other so called champion players richo was a champion and you have no right to say he was not.. I believe being a young richmond fan he was the one to get me into the tigers with my mum buying a number 12 jumper and iFULLY believe he single handedly got soo many young people to support the Tigers when they needed.

SO he Bloody was a champion
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: yellowandback on June 06, 2010, 08:08:09 PM
3 things:-

*Popey, brilliant coverage, tried to think of a journo to compare to your report but simply cannot as you set a new benchmark. I look forward to the B&F report!
*Richo was a champion in every way of the word. A flag or 2 wouldve cemented it to everyone but that is not his fault
*X doesn't get it
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 06, 2010, 08:09:25 PM
Pope, brillaint coverage and very concise. Great stuff it was like I was there with the way you wrote it. Top notch :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Go Richo 12 on June 06, 2010, 08:39:02 PM
Pope, thanks for the update, awesome! Two things.......first, i am glad that there are some people on this site who admit that they have made a mistake on a player(re-Newman) well done, and second; i know three fiddy is alot of coin( I couldnt afford it, well justify it to the wife) but to mix with the players like that surely would would make for an ordinary meal and beer?
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: TigerLand on June 06, 2010, 09:29:10 PM
Pope, thanks for the update, awesome! Two things.......first, i am glad that there are some people on this site who admit that they have made a mistake on a player(re-Newman) well done, and second; i know three fiddy is alot of coin( I couldnt afford it, well justify it to the wife) but to mix with the players like that surely would would make for an ordinary meal and beer?


No worreis all, thought I'd share since I was lucky enough to get an invite along.

Newman was a favourite player of mine back years ago when he wore the number 1. His form before his broken leg was amazing and his comeback was first class. I think we can get a bit to "management" savvy when talking about the list and the future of the club. Chris talked about how he'd have given nearly anything to see the big feller Richo achieve more success. He also said he's not afraid of finishing his career without a single final (Hasn't played in 1 final yet as he was drafted in 01) as long he can see and experience and be a part of the clubs next premiership. He also made every effort to meet and great not only the girls in the short skirts but a lot of the elderly guests that made the trip. Has a lot of character and seeing in 2012 he'll be 30 I'm afraid that Chris may be too old to be in our next premiership. In saying that I don't agree that a trade for a 2nd or 3rd round gamble that may or may not come off is worth trading someone who represents the soul of your side and our club.

The night was fantastic. Great service everything well organized and everything went to plan, I can only assume. I've been to the cocktail night before and meet the players for free so I'm a bit uncomfortable saying the $350 can be justified by meeting the players. It was a great night, my first testimonial. It's just hard to justify the cost for $350, I can understand if someone said I paid $350 and felt a bit let down.

I also forgot to add I did shake the great man's hand, thanked and wished him all the best - mid dance floor whilst he had a red wine in hand. I'd be surprised if he was healthy this morning lol, Richo looked like he was having a great time.
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Go Richo 12 on June 07, 2010, 08:24:36 AM
Fair point Popey! Its great to see Newy getting around and mingling with the mere mortals! I still love the way he kissed his his jumper when he kicked that goal against the Hawks!
 I reckon he is playing with a lot mental anguish off his mind! It could not have been a good year to skipper last season!
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: cub on June 07, 2010, 09:38:11 AM
Nice wrap pope  :clapping

Just thought I would mention Richo turned up at the soacial club function at turd dome on Friday night.
At his hilarious best, he was asked who was the worst player he played on and proceeded to give Kepler Bradley the biggest pastinf I have heard an AFL player give another ! Like I said hilarious stuff.

Like I have said before, not much of a celebrity chaser and dont go looking for autographs but really want cho's, problem is everytime he is around he is swamped and I feel to stupid pushing in with all the kids and ferals. Maybe one day I will bump into him at the right time. :cheers
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Go Richo 12 on June 07, 2010, 10:07:18 AM
Nice wrap pope  :clapping

Just thought I would mention Richo turned up at the soacial club function at turd dome on Friday night.
At his hilarious best, he was asked who was the worst player he played on and proceeded to give Kepler Bradley the biggest pastinf I have heard an AFL player give another ! Like I said hilarious stuff.

Like I have said before, not much of a celebrity chaser and dont go looking for autographs but really want cho's, problem is everytime he is around he is swamped and I feel to stupid pushing in with all the kids and ferals. Maybe one day I will bump into him at the right time. :cheers
My mate literally did bump into him one night at Crown. Richo was coming out of the dunny as my mate was rushing in and he ran into him! My mate looked up at him and said,'' Gee, you really are a big f@#*er!" Richo just laughed and patted him in on the shoulder! My mate has loved him ever since!
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Ox on June 07, 2010, 12:08:46 PM
LMAO @ X taking the pee and all of you biting.

I (we) all love Richo and he deserves all the good things that come his way
but stuff he was a poohouse kick for goal..... :rollin
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Owl on June 07, 2010, 03:17:46 PM
Oh stuff, lucky you said that, I was just hucking my gimp mask and a chainsaw into the back of my scooby doo van and headin off round to X's place...close call...
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: one-eyed on June 07, 2010, 07:04:33 PM
Pics from the Richo night

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/events/eventphotogalleries/tabid/13331/default.aspx
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: one-eyed on June 07, 2010, 07:27:34 PM
I couldn't find this on the net so I scanned it in...

Mates rate at top of Richo list
By Chris de Kretser, Daryl Timms
MON 07 JUN 2010, Page 072



THE Richmond faithful turned out in force for one last farewell to Matthew Richardson on Saturday night and the popular Tiger endeared himself to them even more by outlining his reason for playing football.

"It's the mates you make -- that's what footy's all about. The friendships that you have forever,'' Richardson told a crowd of 1800 with yellow and black in their veins.

The Tigers great was greeted by a standing ovation and the "Richo'' chant as he took the stage at the Melbourne Convention Centre's Plenary room.

Humbled by the reception, Richo said he missed playing as the club attempted to rebuild.

"You always get a bit better after you've retired,'' he joked.

Richardson was at pains to point out that the night was not a testimonial for himself but for Richmond.

"I'm not getting a cent and I hope the club makes plenty of money,'' he said.

Surrounded by his family, best friends, club legends and all the players on the current list, he paid tribute for the support they had given in him in his 282-game career.

He said his father, Alan "Bull'' Richardson was a life member of the club and played in a premiership, but never told him what to do.

"His only advice was to have my socks pulled up, my jumper tucked in and have a pair of clean footy boots,'' he said.

"I always followed that advice, although with the jumpers these days it was sometimes hard to keep them tucked in.''

He choked up when he praised his mum Diane for "how amazing you have been for our family''.

And he hailed his sister Samantha Rawlings -- "even though you didn't take my advice not to marry a footballer'' and his younger brother Andrew, who he said went to every game he played.

He thanked football artist Jamie Cooper for the painting that fetched $51,000 at the auction.

"I've never seen the guns looking better than that,'' he said of Cooper's depiction of his biceps.

The club presented Richo with a giant collage of him in action with the names of the 150 footballers who had played with him.

10 THINGS YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW ABOUT RICHO

- Peter Knights was his first senior coach at Devonport.
- He was a premature baby, weighing just 2.7kg (5lb 13oz).
- Loved his Lego as a kid.
- As a schoolboy he wanted to be an accountant.
- First drove through Melbourne at 17 on a Tasmanian driver's licence.
- Favorite drink is Malibu and pineapple.
- Has kicked the most goals at the MCG.
- Would like his nickname ? Hates being mistaken for Fraser Gehrig.
- Had a Delta Goodrem CD in his locker.
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: one-eyed on June 07, 2010, 07:30:22 PM
What they said
By Chris de Kretser, Daryl Timms
MON 07 JUN 2010, Herald-Sun, Page 072



"I used to love the fact that he used to crack it ... He had a passion for his footy club -- more passion for the game than anyone I ever watched.'' - Glenn Archer

"He was nursing a hammy and was in doubt to play one day, but came out and kicked 10 at the MCG.'' - Danny Frawley

"He had 20 possessions, including a surprising 11 handballs. He never had 11 handballs during the rest of his career.'' - Wayne Campbell

"I've never seen a guy with more broken bones and play with more needles.'' - Brendon Gale

"Any man who can kick 17,000 goals for Richmond with that kicking style has to be a legend -- just as anyone who can live in this town with that mullet hairdo is.'' - Sam Newman

"He'd want me to kick to him even when he was on the bench.'' - Nathan Bower

"He was OK as a housemate, but not when he became a landlord. He was a neat stuff, folding his T-shirts and ironing his undies.''  Ben Harrison, Tigers teammate who shared a flat with Richo.

"If we try as hard as Matthew has in his career, we'll be all right today.'' - Joel Bowden, when asked to speak in the huddle before a milestone game.
Title: Re: Richo - the Final Farewell - Saturday night June 5
Post by: Ox on June 07, 2010, 10:28:24 PM
How disappointing Bowden and Johnson were there.
Gaspar ?