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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 13, 2010, 06:14:18 AM
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VFL Round 6
Coburg Tigers (1-4, 11th) vs Williamstown (4-1, 2nd)
Saturday 15th May @ ABD Group Stadium
Ressies: 11:00 AM
Seniors: 2:00 PM
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Coburg Seniors squad
B: Rayson Gourdis Farmer
HB: White Morgan Connors
C: A. Collins S. Power Kahlefeldt
HF: Hislop Polak King
F: Carnell Morton Graham
R: Simmonds Thomson Piuselli
Int. (From) M. Smith, Astbury, Jakobi, Clifton, Dahl, Browne, Duhau, Post, Jordon, Morris, O'Rielly, Lawton, McMahon
Coburg Reserves
B: Morris W. Smith O'Rielly
HB: McErlain Bisetto Fahey
C: Duhau Contin M. Ambrose
HF: Hicks Gestier Jordon
F: Dennis Lawton Gilligan
R: Dahl Kandilakis Cattapan
Int. (From): Geary, Groves, A. Meroli, Saville, Westhoff, Fitaax, P. Ambrose, Warren, Lucin, Fewster, Sardo, Akkus
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Simmo coming back through Coburg. :whistle
Morts in the doghouse.
Contin back in the ressies. For all the hype he doesn't seem to get the same love from the selectors. :-\
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Simmo coming back through Coburg. :whistle
On the outer obviously if TV and Gus are now ahead of him.
If Jordie is playing ahead of Contin then ??? as Newett bagged Jordie's lack of defence last week in his EOTT Coburg report. Our youngsters who are still finding their way and learning the caper should not be held behind those experienced players who won't be at Punt Rd in 4 months time. Playing 3rd tier footy isn't going to accelerate their development.
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Simmo coming back through Coburg. :whistle
Simmo isn't playing, (most likely still injured as most would have thought when he was named at Coburg Thursday)
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Reserves final score?
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Oops, found it.
2010 VFL Reserves
Coburg Tigers 2.3 4.7 7.12 12.14 (86)
Williamstown 5.1 9.6 11.10 16.12 (108)
REPORTED PLAYERS:
Coburg Tigers: nil
Williamstown: nil
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2010 VFL Reserves
GOALS:
Coburg Tigers: Kandilakis 3 Cattapan 2 Ambrose 2 Ambrose 2 Fewster Lucin Dennis
BEST:
Coburg Tigers: Fewster Hicks Cattapan Kandilakis Dennis Ambrose
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Well I know Jackstar wouldn't agree but Hicks has been named in the best for a few weeks now, maybe he be promoted to the Coburg firsts, get him ready for next year IMO!!
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Quarter time
Coburg Tigers 6.4-40
Williamstown 1.3-9
:thumbsup
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WP's bests so far:
Hislop, Thomson, Browne, Connors
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WP's bests so far:
Hislop, Thomson, Browne, Connors
shows how much of a problem we have - none of them should be in rfcs future :banghead
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Half-time
Coburg Tigers 6.4 7.11-53
Williamstown 1.3 3.10-28
Must be blowy at Coburg with 21 behinds between both sides.
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Browne & Connors not in our future....you must be joking!
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Browne & Connors not in our future....you must be joking!
nup ...
neither player has done anything at this stage- neither!
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Browne & Connors not in our future....you must be joking!
nup ...
neither player has done anything at this stage- neither!
rubbish ramps, connors looks to be every bit a player in the making...Browne has plenty of work to do, but most aspiring rucks do in their 2nd year ::)
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Browne & Connors not in our future....you must be joking!
nup ...
neither player has done anything at this stage- neither!
rubbish ramps, connors looks to be every bit a player in the making...Browne has plenty of work to do, but most aspiring rucks do in their 2nd year ::)
whats conners done lol? all i see is a bloke who is undisciplined, always getting in trouble, playing most of his games at Coburg, trying to take speccies, thats all ... have never seen him try and be a team man. Just my opinion. Hopefully Im wrong.
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whats conners done lol? all i see is a bloke who is undisciplined, always getting in trouble, playing most of his games at Coburg, trying to take speccies, thats all ... have never seen him try and be a team man. Just my opinion. Hopefully Im wrong.
Pop down to Coburg & stand behind the interchange bench & watch/listen to Connors talk up & mentor his team mates.
You really have no idea ::)
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WP's bests to half-time:
Connors, King, Browne, Thomson, Post much better that qtr.
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whats conners done lol? all i see is a bloke who is undisciplined, always getting in trouble, playing most of his games at Coburg, trying to take speccies, thats all ... have never seen him try and be a team man. Just my opinion. Hopefully Im wrong.
Pop down to Coburg & stand behind the interchange bench & watch/listen to Connors talk up & mentor his team mates.
You really have no idea ::)
HAHAHAHA :lol yeah no worries mate! no wonder we're down the bottom of the ladder lol - Conners got drafted in 2006, hes a dime a dozen hbf/mid type who has played what 10 games in 4 years lol ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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WP says there's no breeze. Kingy has kicked 4 behinds. Not sure of goalkickers.
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Browne & Connors not in our future....you must be joking!
nup ...
neither player has done anything at this stage- neither!
well in the first few R he played fwiw he was prob leading our B&F
rubbish ramps, connors looks to be every bit a player in the making...Browne has plenty of work to do, but most aspiring rucks do in their 2nd year ::)
whats conners done lol? all i see is a bloke who is undisciplined, always getting in trouble, playing most of his games at Coburg, trying to take speccies, thats all ... have never seen him try and be a team man. Just my opinion. Hopefully Im wrong.
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WP's bests so far:
Hislop, Thomson, Browne, Connors
4-5 Weeks now that Browne has been mentioned as one of the best, must get a call up soon!! Watch out Gus, could be your last game tomorrow if you don't perform.
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WTF! 11 goal quarter to Willy :help
Coburg Tigers 6.4 7.11 8.11-59
Williamstown 1.3 3.10 14.17-101
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WTF! 11 goal quarter to Willy :help
Coburg Tigers 6.4 7.11 8.11-59
Williamstown 1.3 3.10 14.17-101
OMG, how the hell does that happen??????????
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WP txt message
"No bests - PATHETIC & INSIPID"
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Browne & Connors not in our future....you must be joking!
nup ...
neither player has done anything at this stage- neither!
brownes a pup ruck, don't be a chump.
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WTF! 11 goal quarter to Willy :help
Coburg Tigers 6.4 7.11 8.11-59
Williamstown 1.3 3.10 14.17-101
OMG, how the hell does that happen??????????
thats 11.7 scored for the qtr, DISGRACEFUL is not strong enough :o
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WTF! 11 goal quarter to Willy :help
Coburg Tigers 6.4 7.11 8.11-59
Williamstown 1.3 3.10 14.17-101
OMG, how the hell does that happen??????????
thats 11.7 scored for the qtr, DISGRACEFUL is not strong enough :o
Thats just amazing isn't it :o :o
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Browne & Connors not in our future....you must be joking!
nup ...
neither player has done anything at this stage- neither!
brownes a pup ruck, don't be a chump.
and thats about the only thing saving him ...conners on the other hand has no excuses!
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18 scoring shots to 1 in a quarter. That's North Sunshine standard :banghead
WP txt messages
"Kingy leading rest grrr
In the Coburg side today: King, Hislop, Thomson, Collins, Connors, Post, Morton, O'Reilly, Mcmahon, Gourdis, Browne"
"Can add Thomo 2 leadership (I'm presuming WP means not!)
Heading home now had enough"
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Disgusting really, how the hell can those RFC listed players expect a call up after that debarkle????
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Disgusting really, how the hell can those RFC listed players expect a call up after that debarkle????
they cant and shouldnt :banghead
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Final score
Coburg Tigers 6.4 7.11 8.11 10.15 (75)
Williamstown 1.3 3.10 14.17 20.18 (138)
17.8 to 3.4 after half time :P
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Ramps 3 votes for idiot of the week
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Ramps 3 votes for idiot of the week
lol ;D
yeah no worries at all inf. Ill just chug along hoping like some that the likes of Conners 10 games in 4 years will save us lol ;D
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Ramps 3 votes for idiot of the week
lol ;D
yeah no worries at all inf. Ill just chug along hoping like some that the likes of Conners 10 games in 4 years will save us lol ;D
You're ripping into our guys who are playing well, how about you rip into kids who aren't instead
Browne is in his 2nd year off the rookie list and getting named in the best a couple of times now in the past few weeks
Connors was playing AFL regularly this year and doing well, since his demotion for the drinking incident he's been in the best ever week
Hislop was named in the best 2 weeks ago, was tagged last week and this week was in the bests early
Thomson is the oldest of the lot and should be playing well at this level, however I think it's his first game back from a bad leg injury
I stand by my original comment
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good call infamy, too many idiots have carried on like that over the years mercilessly bagging the gaspers kellaways richo's et al, nevermind the duds that dont even play 10 games letalone 200g since being drafted...NFI some people
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2010 VFL Seniors
Coburg Tigers 6.4 7.11 8.11 11.15 (81)
Williamstown 1.3 3.10 14.17 20.18 (138)
GOALS:
Coburg Tigers: Lawton 2 Duhau Hislop Collins McMahon Thomson King Morton Power Jordon
Williamstown: Little 5 Moles 3 Hooper 2 Panos 2 Johnson 2 Davies German Daniels Rose Reid Fortune
BEST:
Coburg Tigers: Connors Power Duhau Hislop Clifton Browne
Williamstown: Grossman Moles Johnson Muir Daniels McHarg
https://reg.sportingpulse.com/olr_v3/rpt_progressive.cgi?aID=8&pg=1&a=MR_
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Well I know Jackstar wouldn't agree but Hicks has been named in the best for a few weeks now, maybe he be promoted to the Coburg firsts, get him ready for next year IMO!!
My thoughts too WAT - he can't do much more than keep putting his name up each week. At some point the club has to say ok, show us what you have at the next level. Good on him.
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good call infamy, too many idiots have carried on like that over the years mercilessly bagging the gaspers kellaways richo's et al, nevermind the duds that dont even play 10 games letalone 200g since being drafted...NFI some people
I made comment about the boys in the VFL side, I dont rate most of them, thats my opinion, and they havent done anything to prove me wrong, I hope they do but at this stage of the proceedings the lads in the VFL side are just making up the numbers. Our supporters constantly overate blokes like Conners and Collins et al.
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good call infamy, too many idiots have carried on like that over the years mercilessly bagging the gaspers kellaways richo's et al, nevermind the duds that dont even play 10 games letalone 200g since being drafted...NFI some people
I made comment about the boys in the VFL side, I dont rate most of them, thats my opinion, and they havent done anything to prove me wrong, I hope they do but at this stage of the proceedings the lads in the VFL side are just making up the numbers. Our supporters constantly overate blokes like Conners and Collins et al.
Well you seem to over rate the value of your own opinion
What's the point of bagging players who are having a crack?
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good call infamy, too many idiots have carried on like that over the years mercilessly bagging the gaspers kellaways richo's et al, nevermind the duds that dont even play 10 games letalone 200g since being drafted...NFI some people
I made comment about the boys in the VFL side, I dont rate most of them, thats my opinion, and they havent done anything to prove me wrong, I hope they do but at this stage of the proceedings the lads in the VFL side are just making up the numbers. Our supporters constantly overate blokes like Conners and Collins et al.
Well you seem to over rate the value of your own opinion
What's the point of bagging players who are having a crack?
Most players have a go ... but we are discussing the probability of players becoming good AFL players, we have a difference of opinion and thats ok.
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I'm sorry but the discussion was the Coburg game and the 4 players mentioned were the best players for Coburg thus far.
You're the one who decided to derail the coversation with your ridiculous belief that they are useless and have no future.
How about ripping into players like McMahon & Morton who barely got a mention and are senior players.
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I'm sorry but the discussion was the Coburg game and the 4 players mentioned were the best players for Coburg thus far.
You're the one who decided to derail the coversation with your ridiculous belief that they are useless and have no future.
How about ripping into players like McMahon & Morton who barely got a mention and are senior players.
Well McMahon will be gone seasons end and Morton could be traded - so what - about McMahon- I was one who was against his recruitment from the start, Morton could be a good player in a good side but maybe he is more value to us being traded for a decent pick- thats up to the club.
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I'm sorry but the discussion was the Coburg game and the 4 players mentioned were the best players for Coburg thus far.
You're the one who decided to derail the coversation with your ridiculous belief that they are useless and have no future.
How about ripping into players like McMahon & Morton who barely got a mention and are senior players.
Well McMahon will be gone seasons end and Morton could be traded - so what - about McMahon- I was one who was against his recruitment from the start, Morton could be a good player in a good side but maybe he is more value to us being traded for a decent pick- thats up to the club.
I think the real point here is that stating we have crap players on our list is an obvious and simplistic observation - one we expect from certain posters and not others (and you're not one of those posters imo ramps).
We have very few good players or ones that have clear, identifiable talent.
I'd assume that most posters on this forum want to read about the diamonds in the rough-particularly in Coburg side where plenty of us don't get to see the players live. I'd sooner read about someones comments
seeing some development on Browne than one about him we can all make from our lounge room.
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Hicks is one player on which I agreed with Jackstar. Not Hick's fault as you can't do anything about your genetics but he's too small for AFL level.
Morton is a massive concern right now. After two fairly decent years as a goalkicker at AFL level he's gone completely off the radar this season even in the VFL :-\.
Connors has physical tools to be a decent footballer IMO. It's of course the mental and off-field side that's his problem which is what got him suspended.
The usual brigade - Jordie, Thomson, Hislop, King - will be first out the door at the end of the season. Hard to see Gourdis surviving either if he remains playing for Coburg and can't break into the current Richmond side.
I said at the start of the year that Coburg will be fighting it out with Frankston for the wooden spoon. Forgetting our Richmond duds for the moment, Coburg has lost too much experience since 2008 not to finish in the bottom 4. It's sad when you hear someone like Alastair Neville has walked away from the game disenchanted after being overlooked for a rookie spot on an AFL list yet his old club Coburg could do with his experience back in the midfield right now.
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TFLUA-Tiger's player summary on BF:
Ressies report: http://bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17764311&postcount=81
Seniors report: http://bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17764552&postcount=84
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It's sad when you hear someone like Alastair Neville has walked away from the game disenchanted after being overlooked for a rookie spot on an AFL list yet his old club Coburg could do with his experience back in the midfield right now.
Given the success of Barlow & Podsiadly this year and the knowledge that clubs will be looking heavily into the state competitions, he couldn't have walked away at a worse time. Should come back ASAP if he really wants a chance.
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My very quick txt to MT about Thomson was that he along with Kingy were the only 2 RFC blokes who showed any leadership in the 3rd qtr.
I haven't read this thread in full and wont until I get home this evening but I will say this
BrownE was one of the best yesterday actually probably the best game I've seen him play. He played on Roughead (the same one the experts predicted a couple of weeks ago was the next big thing) and Browne easily won that contest
Anyone who thinks Browne isn't a future RFC player is kiiding themselves - much better player going forward than Gus Graham IMO becuae he does the team first things .
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My very quick txt to MT about Thomson was that he along with Kingy were the only 2 RFC blokes who showed any leadership in the 3rd qtr.
I haven't read this thread in full and wont until I get home this evening but I will say this
BrownE was one of the best yesterday actually probably the best game I've seen him play. He played on Roughead (the same one the experts predicted a couple of weeks ago was the next big thing) and Browne easily won that contest
Anyone who thinks Browne isn't a future RFC player is kiiding themselves - much better player going forward than Gus Graham IMO becuae he does the team first things .
Well lets play him then, I have been saying to play him for ages, what have we got to lose, no point him being in the best for Coburg week after week.
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My very quick txt to MT about Thomson was that he along with Kingy were the only 2 RFC blokes who showed any leadership in the 3rd qtr.
I haven't read this thread in full and wont until I get home this evening but I will say this
BrownE was one of the best yesterday actually probably the best game I've seen him play. He played on Roughead (the same one the experts predicted a couple of weeks ago was the next big thing) and Browne easily won that contest
Anyone who thinks Browne isn't a future RFC player is kiiding themselves - much better player going forward than Gus Graham IMO becuae he does the team first things .
Well lets play him then, I have been saying to play him for ages, what have we got to lose, no point him being in the best for Coburg week after week.
Hardwick's job this year is to test every player on the list and make a decision on their career. Playing Graham in the AFL not only tests him at the higher level as a 5th year player, but also gives Browne the #1 ruck spot at Coburg with more game time to step it up a level. So far Browne has already shown he can step up with the extra responsibiltiy, time for Graham to do the same today.
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There isn't really much I can say about Coburg's game yesterday.
The third quarter was one of the most insipid and pathetic quarters of footy I've witnessed in along time.
Of the RFC boys although Connors was the best of them, he let himself down with some of his talk to his team mates on the ground. One of the great things about VFL footy is that when you are watching you can hear what gets said on the field. One of young Daniel's comments to Jake King inthe 2nd qtr was not what you would call "team orientated". It was terrible to hear it and re-enforced to me that Connors still has a long long way to go in the team first stakes
BrownE - best game I've seen him play. His around the ground work is steadily improving. IMO had Roughhead's measure
Collins - disappointing. Needs to take the first option instead of running around in circles slowing the play and then choosing the wrong option
Gourdis - of the games I seen this year - this was the worst. Kicking let him down
Morton - did he play? Terribly terribly disppointing
Thomson - good. Was very vocal in the 3rd and in and under work good. Kicking still a concern
King - couldn't kick a goal to save himself (4 or 5 behinds i think) but you can never question his commitment of attack on the footy
Jordie - no comment ;D why give people more reason to whack him
Hislop - it really is a pity tommy's kicking is not better. His inside 50 defensive pressure and tackling is great
O'Reilly - shows some promise but needs to build up his strenght so the tackles stick
Post - same as previous - lakcs intensity
I was sooooooooooooooo relieved that I had to leave early :rollin
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Round 6 Match Report
Coburg Tigers website
Seniors
We met arch rivals Williamstown at ABD Stadium in perfect conditions.
We got away to a great start having 4 goals on the board before Williamstown scored their first goal.
By the end of the first quarter we had registered 6 majors and we dominated that quarter with drive through the midfield from Thomson, Hislop and Power.
The 2nd quarter was an even tussle with both sides being very inaccurately in front of goals with us kicking 1.7 to Willi 2.7.
The 2nd half was just a nightmare with Williamstown kicking 11.7 to 1.0 in the 3rd quarter and putting an end to our chances of winning.
Everything we did in the first half just did not happen in the 2nd half and it was very disappointing.
Coburg: 6.4 7.11 8.11 11.15
Williamstown: 1.3 3.10 14.17 20.18
Goals:Lawton 2, Duhau, Hislop, Collins, McMahon, Thomson, King, Morton, Power, Jordon
Best: Connors, Power, Clifton, Duhau, Browne.
Reserves:
The boys were keen to do well against our 2007 Reserves premiership coach Adam Potter who joined Williamstown this year.
While we were never in front on the scoreboard,the boys were always in the hunt,but Williamstown’s experience told out in the end.
James Kandalakis played his best game for the club and gave us great drive through the middle and also kicked 3 running goals.
Also Murphy Ambrose was solid across half back and Brendan Fewster again showed he will be a valuable player for us as the year goes on.
Rob Hicks could push for senior promotion in the coming weeks as his pace around half forward is important.
Coburg: 2.3 4.7 7.12 12.14
Williamstown: 5.1 9.6 11.10 16.12
Goals:Kandalakis 3, Cattapan 2, M.Ambrose 2, Geister 2, Fewster, Lucin, Dennis
Best: Fewster, Kandalakis, Hicks, Cattapan, M.Ambrose
Next game will be against Northern Bullants at NAB Oval on May 29th.
http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info.cgi?client=1-118-10471-0-0&sID=56260&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=12124361§ionID=56260
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VFL: Seagulls overrun Coburg
richmondfc.com.au 6:30 PM Mon 17 May, 2010
Richmond’s VFL affiliate, the Coburg Tigers, produced a stunning first half display against top side Williamstown at the weekend before being eventually overwhelmed.
The Tigers led by 25 points at half time, but an 11-goal third quarter by the Seagulls took the game out of reach.
Williamstown won by 57 points, but Coburg coach David Newett saw plenty of positives in the performance.
“We were really happy with the way the boys came out. We thought it was a non-competitive performance against Casey the week before, and in the first half we played outstanding footy,” he said.
“We controlled the game, and at half time the boys were really positive.
“In the third quarter Williamstown really upped their intensity, we turned the ball over too often and they capitalised.”
Daniel Connors was outstanding across half back, collecting a team-high 32 possessions and six inside 50s.
“Dan’s in really in good form, and it’s been a real credit to him the way he’s prepared for playing in the VFL and the level he has been able to produce,” Newett said.
Newett also praised the efforts of Jake King, who picked up 23 disposals, eight inside 50s and had seven scoring shots.
Tom Hislop (15 touches and seven marks) was also lauded for his efforts in the forward half, while Andrew Browne battled hard in the ruck for 24 hitouts.
The VFL competition takes a break this weekend for state representative matches.
Coburg’s next match is against the Northern Bullants on Saturday May 29 at NAB Oval.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/94495/default.aspx
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The VFL competition takes a break this weekend for state representative matches.
Coburg’s next match is against the Northern Bullants on Saturday May 29 at NAB Oval.
Looks like an enforced rest for Griffiths then which should ensure his shoulder has at least 3 weeks to recover
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did Astbury play?
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did Astbury play?
NO
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did Astbury play?
NO
I seen him at the game and overheard him telling someone he was resting.
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did Astbury play?
NO
I seen him at the game and overheard him telling someone he was resting.
will Astbury play against Essendon?
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did Astbury play?
NO
I seen him at the game and overheard him telling someone he was resting.
General soreness is what's called these days isn't it ;D
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Coburg stats from the Willy game:
David Gourdis 6 kicks, 11 handballs, 2 marks
Andrew Browne 5 kicks, 4 handballs, 4 marks
Jamie O’Reilly 9 kicks, 6 handballs, 2 marks
Daniel Connors 25 kicks, 7 handballs, 9 marks
Jordan McMahon 6 kicks, 13 handballs, 2 marks
Jayden Post 9 kicks, 4 handballs, 4 marks
Adam Thomson 4 kicks, 13 handballs, 1 mark
Tom Hislop 11 kicks, 4 handballs, 7 marks
Mitch Morton 5 kicks, 5 handballs, 2 marks
Andrew Collins 13 kicks, 5 handballs, 4 marks
Jake King 16 kicks, 7 handballs, 8 marks
Full individual report on each player from David Newett here:
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/ARCHIVEPAGES/EyeoftheTigerMembers/TheNewettReport/tabid/15921/Default.aspx