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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on June 06, 2011, 02:51:49 PM
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Richmond midfielder Shane Edwards has recovered from a depressed cheekbone fracture and is available for selection in the Tiger team that will take on Sydney in next Sunday’s Round 12 encounter at the SCG.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/115632/default.aspx
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Excellent news. We have really missed his creativity the past few weeks.
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have we sheesh.
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Excellent news. We have really missed his creativity the past few weeks.
yeah like a hole in the head
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Excellent news. We have really missed his creativity the past few weeks.
Agreed. His ability to evade means that 2 or 3 opponents usually try to tackle him. This frees up the classier HBF's. You need to look at the team as a whole Daniel.
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He was ordinary earlier in the season, but his last few weeks were constructive.
Can be very creative with his hands in traffic and provides good drive through the middle. i think he is starting to understand that he should look to offload to a classier teammate before kicking it himself.
I think he can offer something in the future if he can iron out his clangers.
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have we sheesh.
You obviously missed his 6 scoring assists in the Fremantle game before he was injured.
Was running into some excellent form but go ahead and be blinded by your misconceptions. 8)
Agreed. His ability to evade means that 2 or 3 opponents usually try to tackle him. This frees up the classier HBF's. You need to look at the team as a whole Daniel.
He was ordinary earlier in the season, but his last few weeks were constructive.
Can be very creative with his hands in traffic and provides good drive through the middle. i think he is starting to understand that he should look to offload to a classier teammate before kicking it himself.
I think he can offer something in the future if he can iron out his clangers.
Nice to see not all here have the blinkers on.
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Mmmm, well good luck I suppose Shane.. :-\
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Deserves to come straight back in, I think we need his evasive and creative type against a team like Sydney
Only thing I worry about is after 3 weeks off I hope he won't revert to his Round 1-4 kicking skill
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'twil indeed be interesting to see which Shane Edwards will return....
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have we sheesh.
You obviously missed his 6 scoring assists in the Fremantle game before he was injured.
Was running into some excellent form but go ahead and be blinded by your misconceptions. 8)
Agreed. His ability to evade means that 2 or 3 opponents usually try to tackle him. This frees up the classier HBF's. You need to look at the team as a whole Daniel.
He was ordinary earlier in the season, but his last few weeks were constructive.
Can be very creative with his hands in traffic and provides good drive through the middle. i think he is starting to understand that he should look to offload to a classier teammate before kicking it himself.
I think he can offer something in the future if he can iron out his clangers.
Nice to see not all here have the blinkers on.
no misconceptions at all. hes a very average player who manages to play the odd good game. the misconception is people actually putting him on a pedestal after the odd good game.
8 games this yr. Broke his jaw early in one so that doesnt count. Was below standard ranging thru decent in 5 other games, and yes he had a couple of good games back to back.
To me those so called good games are where he should be at all the time, they are average games for a mid and the least we should expect.yet because of those two games hes suddenly a good player.i suppose you will tell me hes had a good yr next.
i would have thought for a player his type 20 plus possesions a must, bloody hell poor mids get that many nowdays with their eyes closed. a running outside mid should be really good by foot and nowdays defensive pressure no matter the size of the player is king.
He does not get enough of the ball never has apart from the odd game, most certainly for a skinny outside mid who gets plenty of game time.
He still makes poor decisions and he still butchers the ball far too often by foot. his tackling is ineffectual and his pace is average. to top it off has kicked just 2 goals for the season.
All this from a 22 yr old 5th yr 70 odd game player you bet ya life im critical of him and with damn good reason. i will say this with utter confidence hes at the best an average player and his performances in the main have been below standard. if he had not had a reasonable season last yr, yes reasonable it was just passable he would be gone.
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last year's standard was that minimum required performance you are talking about the claw
he has fallen below that this year instead of building on it which puts him back behind the eight ball as an average mid instead of a good one
i actually see him as more inside than outside despite his frame, maybe a bit of an in-between mid
he was one of our biggest contested ball winners last yr, an area that we are down on this yr, coinciding with his poor form
he's got to lift, i'm one that leans towards him making it because of his work ethic on & off, but he's still on the borderline
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have we sheesh.
You obviously missed his 6 scoring assists in the Fremantle game before he was injured.
Was running into some excellent form but go ahead and be blinded by your misconceptions. 8)
Agreed. His ability to evade means that 2 or 3 opponents usually try to tackle him. This frees up the classier HBF's. You need to look at the team as a whole Daniel.
He was ordinary earlier in the season, but his last few weeks were constructive.
Can be very creative with his hands in traffic and provides good drive through the middle. i think he is starting to understand that he should look to offload to a classier teammate before kicking it himself.
I think he can offer something in the future if he can iron out his clangers.
Nice to see not all here have the blinkers on.
no misconceptions at all. hes a very average player who manages to play the odd good game. the misconception is people actually putting him on a pedestal after the odd good game.
8 games this yr. Broke his jaw early in one so that doesnt count. Was below standard ranging thru decent in 5 other games, and yes he had a couple of good games back to back.
To me those so called good games are where he should be at all the time, they are average games for a mid and the least we should expect.yet because of those two games hes suddenly a good player.i suppose you will tell me hes had a good yr next.
i would have thought for a player his type 20 plus possesions a must, bloody hell poor mids get that many nowdays with their eyes closed. a running outside mid should be really good by foot and nowdays defensive pressure no matter the size of the player is king.
He does not get enough of the ball never has apart from the odd game, most certainly for a skinny outside mid who gets plenty of game time.
He still makes poor decisions and he still butchers the ball far too often by foot. his tackling is ineffectual and his pace is average. to top it off has kicked just 2 goals for the season.
All this from a 22 yr old 5th yr 70 odd game player you bet ya life im critical of him and with damn good reason. i will say this with utter confidence hes at the best an average player and his performances in the main have been below standard. if he had not had a reasonable season last yr, yes reasonable it was just passable he would be gone.
You do recognise he won our most improved player award last year?
You do also recognise he had an interrupted pre season after significant off season surgery?
I can tell you claw that Edwards is highly rated by Dimma. HIGHLY.
The coaching staff honestly believe that he can make the transition to become an elite player.
Now you may laugh but that's how highly rated he is by those that are watching our list a lot closer than you or I.
He had a terrible start to the season no doubt but whilst many wrote him off, just perhaps those that know more than us nuffies on the net stuck by him and he started to come good. Have a look at the trend in his form claw. Shane was on the improve significantly before his injury. It's indisputable.
I really rate Edwards. Always have.
Odd grubber aside you can just see that this kid oozes football talent and I for one share Hardwick's belief that he is a potential premiership mid.
I will go so far to say Edwards has more talent in some areas of his game than any other other player on our list. You need to keep developing someone like that and I think they are doing a fine job with him.
I'll back him in to become a very good player and will happily bow to your superior judgement if I am wrong. 8)
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I reckon Edwards could turn out to be similar to his namesake in Tyson
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have we sheesh.
You obviously missed his 6 scoring assists in the Fremantle game before he was injured.
Was running into some excellent form but go ahead and be blinded by your misconceptions. 8)
Agreed. His ability to evade means that 2 or 3 opponents usually try to tackle him. This frees up the classier HBF's. You need to look at the team as a whole Daniel.
He was ordinary earlier in the season, but his last few weeks were constructive.
Can be very creative with his hands in traffic and provides good drive through the middle. i think he is starting to understand that he should look to offload to a classier teammate before kicking it himself.
I think he can offer something in the future if he can iron out his clangers.
Nice to see not all here have the blinkers on.
no misconceptions at all. hes a very average player who manages to play the odd good game. the misconception is people actually putting him on a pedestal after the odd good game.
8 games this yr. Broke his jaw early in one so that doesnt count. Was below standard ranging thru decent in 5 other games, and yes he had a couple of good games back to back.
To me those so called good games are where he should be at all the time, they are average games for a mid and the least we should expect.yet because of those two games hes suddenly a good player.i suppose you will tell me hes had a good yr next.
i would have thought for a player his type 20 plus possesions a must, bloody hell poor mids get that many nowdays with their eyes closed. a running outside mid should be really good by foot and nowdays defensive pressure no matter the size of the player is king.
He does not get enough of the ball never has apart from the odd game, most certainly for a skinny outside mid who gets plenty of game time.
He still makes poor decisions and he still butchers the ball far too often by foot. his tackling is ineffectual and his pace is average. to top it off has kicked just 2 goals for the season.
All this from a 22 yr old 5th yr 70 odd game player you bet ya life im critical of him and with damn good reason. i will say this with utter confidence hes at the best an average player and his performances in the main have been below standard. if he had not had a reasonable season last yr, yes reasonable it was just passable he would be gone.
You do recognise he won our most improved player award last year?
You do also recognise he had an interrupted pre season after significant off season surgery?
I can tell you claw that Edwards is highly rated by Dimma. HIGHLY.
The coaching staff honestly believe that he can make the transition to become an elite player.
Now you may laugh but that's how highly rated he is by those that are watching our list a lot closer than you or I.
He had a terrible start to the season no doubt but whilst many wrote him off, just perhaps those that know more than us nuffies on the net stuck by him and he started to come good. Have a look at the trend in his form claw. Shane was on the improve significantly before his injury. It's indisputable.
I really rate Edwards. Always have.
Odd grubber aside you can just see that this kid oozes football talent and I for one share Hardwick's belief that he is a potential premiership mid.
I will go so far to say Edwards has more talent in some areas of his game than any other other player on our list. You need to keep developing someone like that and I think they are doing a fine job with him.
I'll back him in to become a very good player and will happily bow to your superior judgement if I am wrong. 8)
theres nothing superior about my judgement im just commenting on what ive seen to date. i also believe for a small but at 22 while there is no doubt some improvment left in him i dont think there will be a lot.also i would never think he can be elite just not a good enough kick for that to happen. hes very good with his hands and hes very elusive but these things imo are offset by weaknesses.and the weaknesses out number the strengths atm.
finally i will gladly take very good player but as i said im inclined to think average at best. heres hoping you are right and those at the club.
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theres nothing superior about my judgement im just commenting on what ive seen to date. i also believe for a small but at 22 while there is no doubt some improvment left in him i dont think there will be a lot.
It's all good. All we both want are good footballers for the RFC.
Personally I think Edwards has some elite qualities right now.
Sure he's not a complete player yet but there is a lot to work with and develop still.
Weaknesses?! Yes.
The knocks on his kicking early this year were justified.
Appalling errors! but as a keen observer you must admit it improved in his more recent outings as it did last year.
Most of the knocks on his disposal by his most outspoken critics was largely formed early.
Fair enough, he was off to a shaky start and as is always the case in life it's a lot harder to shake those initial perceptions people form up front than it is later.
However many of his critics needed to look deeper than the odd howler by foot that attracted most of the attention.
Shane's hands are exceptional IMO. As his his decision making. :o
He is a footballer, absolutely and a very talented one.
Many will scream his decision making has been shocking but personally I think sometimes early he just thought too much. Still does now at times.
Better than not thinking enough though (ala Tambling ::)) and with experience I believe that will improve. His ability to bring others into the play is a very valuable commodity that few have.
Importantly also he also has a great tank.
He's not overly quick but will run all day. With the reduced interchange I think that this will be a valuable asset to have.
He applies constant pressure to his opponents and has a high work ethic. No wonder he's a coaches favourite.
Anyways enough of blowing his trumpet. Only time will tell how he ends up.
Not there yet but hopefully he becomes great player for the Tigers. I think he can be.
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I reckon we tend to forget how young our blokes are sometimes and rank them tough. Not every player can be elited at 19-20
Edwards is only 22 (23 in Oct) and has been in the system what 5 years, but under a decent coaching structure for only 2 of those years... he's shown improvement and will continue to do so IMHO. At 22 going onto 23 he still learning. The best is yet to come I reckon
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I make no secret that i do believe we should trade him to GS and last night was yet another example of his up down career.
His good is descent but it happens once every 4 games. Not good enough.
Do we need him or will we miss him. Id say absolutely not. He is a nothing player, just someone who occupies a spot on our list.
Would definitely entertain the thought of a Morton/Edwards and Tambling pick for scully thus keeping our first pick or both to GC for a second rounder.
Its worked well for our Collins trade and i rate Edwards much less than i did Collins.
Must trade Dimma
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edwards is a keeper and has pedigree , his dad was a superstar in the sanfl and we r a better team with him in and his run and carry
look out when his body fully matures he will be awesome
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agree 100% he will be a star, there are plenty of other players to move on before Edwards. He takes the game on a bit like Nahas what is wrong with that?? We have a young list full of Balls courage flare and play exciting brand of football and he is right in the middle of it. :gotigers
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agree 100% he will be a star, there are plenty of other players to move on before Edwards. He takes the game on a bit like Nahas what is wrong with that?? We have a young list full of Balls courage flare and play exciting brand of football and he is right in the middle of it. :gotigers
Let's wait until we beat a good side before we get too excited.
:cheers
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edwards is a keeper and has pedigree , his dad was a superstar in the sanfl and we r a better team with him in and his run and carry
look out when his body fully matures he will be awesome
Francis Bourke/David Bourke
Disco/Tom
All pedigree and look how that turned out. Pedigree means SFA
Edwards has currency and a dime a dozen player on our list.
Trade
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Edwards wont be going anywhere
Very highly regarded by the people that matter...................the coaches :thumbsup
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Edwards wont be going anywhere
Very highly regarded by the people that matter...................the coaches :thumbsup
Yeah but so is Tom Hislop....:(
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Edwards wont be going anywhere
Very highly regarded by the people that matter...................the coaches :thumbsup
Yeah but so is Tom Hislop....:(
Exactly ;D
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In the end if we are going to trade for the likes of Trengove (Port) or Scully or even one of the 17yo picks then Edwards will be one name that has to be on the trade table particulary for Trengove because of the SA links.
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In the end if we are going to trade for the likes of Trengove (Port) or Scully or even one of the 17yo picks then Edwards will be one name that has to be on the trade table particulary for Trengove because of the SA links.
I would swap Edwards for Trengove every day of the week.
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edwards is a keeper and has pedigree , his dad was a superstar in the sanfl and we r a better team with him in and his run and carry
look out when his body fully matures he will be awesome
Francis Bourke/David Bourke
Disco/Tom
All pedigree and look how that turned out. Pedigree means SFA
Edwards has currency and a dime a dozen player on our list.
Trade
:thumbsup