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Title: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: 10 FLAGS on July 03, 2011, 03:42:39 PM
I think we need to make a change in our recruiting department, Derek Hine has the score on the board and he is uncontracted at the end of this season. Richmond should make a play for Hine IMHO. Francis Jackson has done what he could but I think a change is necessary. Richmond needs to get the best people and right at the moment Hine is as good as they come in recruiting.
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 03, 2011, 04:07:34 PM
I think we need to make a change in our recruiting department, Derek Hine has the score on the board and he is uncontracted at the end of this season. Richmond should make a play for Hine IMHO. Francis Jackson has done what he could but I think a change is necessary. Richmond needs to get the best people and right at the moment Hine is as good as they come in recruiting.

I'm not sure we need a change in that department as yet FJ hasn't done allot wrong in his tenure at the club.
I would rather see us put some time into securing a more senior and experienced assistant coach I really believe the lack of coaching experience around Hardwick at the moment is starting to show.
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: Rodgerramjet on July 03, 2011, 04:17:42 PM
I think we need to make a change in our recruiting department, Derek Hine has the score on the board and he is uncontracted at the end of this season. Richmond should make a play for Hine IMHO. Francis Jackson has done what he could but I think a change is necessary. Richmond needs to get the best people and right at the moment Hine is as good as they come in recruiting.

I'm not sure we need a change in that department as yet FJ hasn't done allot wrong in his tenure at the club.
I would rather see us put some time into securing a more senior and experienced assistant coach I really believe the lack of coaching experience around Hardwick at the moment is starting to show.

We for sure need a better midfield coach our midfield is ranked 17th i think I read somewhere. Leppa is ok, I'm not too sure on the effectiveness of Lade and Daly though ( they are good set shot kicking coaches apparently).

Would like Riccuto as a midfield coach.
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: gerkin greg on July 03, 2011, 04:45:06 PM
need to get mark neeld from collingwood
also uncontracted

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played 74 league games in seven season for Geelong and Richmond, came to Collingwood in 2008 as defensive assistant coach after a decorated coaching career at suburban and elite junior level, most recently at the helm of the Western Jets in Victoria's TAC Cup Under 18 competition. Coached Ocean Grove to four straight premierships from 2000-2003.

Neeld created a working class outfit in defence in 2009.  Led by skipper Nick Maxwell, the Magpie back six gave up the second least points against in the AFL.

In 2010 Neeld oversaw the midfield group which included new draftees Luke Ball and Darren Jolly.  Neeld's midfield boasted three All-Australians including Scott Pendlebury, Alan Didak and Dane Swan.  Swan (24 votes) and Pendlebury (21) finished in the top five in the Brownlow.

throw the chequebook at him
has richmond connection
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: tony_montana on July 03, 2011, 04:47:42 PM
need to get mark neeld from collingwood
also uncontracted

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played 74 league games in seven season for Geelong and Richmond, came to Collingwood in 2008 as defensive assistant coach after a decorated coaching career at suburban and elite junior level, most recently at the helm of the Western Jets in Victoria's TAC Cup Under 18 competition. Coached Ocean Grove to four straight premierships from 2000-2003.

Neeld created a working class outfit in defence in 2009.  Led by skipper Nick Maxwell, the Magpie back six gave up the second least points against in the AFL.

In 2010 Neeld oversaw the midfield group which included new draftees Luke Ball and Darren Jolly.  Neeld's midfield boasted three All-Australians including Scott Pendlebury, Alan Didak and Dane Swan.  Swan (24 votes) and Pendlebury (21) finished in the top five in the Brownlow.

throw the chequebook at him
has richmond connection

seen plenty of Neeld firsthand at the Jets before he got the pies gig. Gun coach

..and Hine would obviously be an upgrade on jackson or are ppl going to seriously argue against?  :-[

But the biggest upgrade of all we need to undertake is Craig Cameron.. Theres a list manager that just left hawthorn that goes alright..
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: Rodgerramjet on July 03, 2011, 04:47:55 PM
need to get mark neeld from collingwood
also uncontracted

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played 74 league games in seven season for Geelong and Richmond, came to Collingwood in 2008 as defensive assistant coach after a decorated coaching career at suburban and elite junior level, most recently at the helm of the Western Jets in Victoria's TAC Cup Under 18 competition. Coached Ocean Grove to four straight premierships from 2000-2003.

Neeld created a working class outfit in defence in 2009.  Led by skipper Nick Maxwell, the Magpie back six gave up the second least points against in the AFL.

In 2010 Neeld oversaw the midfield group which included new draftees Luke Ball and Darren Jolly.  Neeld's midfield boasted three All-Australians including Scott Pendlebury, Alan Didak and Dane Swan.  Swan (24 votes) and Pendlebury (21) finished in the top five in the Brownlow.

throw the chequebook at him
has richmond connection

Sounds good Gerks
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 03, 2011, 04:49:58 PM
need to get mark neeld from collingwood
also uncontracted

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played 74 league games in seven season for Geelong and Richmond, came to Collingwood in 2008 as defensive assistant coach after a decorated coaching career at suburban and elite junior level, most recently at the helm of the Western Jets in Victoria's TAC Cup Under 18 competition. Coached Ocean Grove to four straight premierships from 2000-2003.

Neeld created a working class outfit in defence in 2009.  Led by skipper Nick Maxwell, the Magpie back six gave up the second least points against in the AFL.

In 2010 Neeld oversaw the midfield group which included new draftees Luke Ball and Darren Jolly.  Neeld's midfield boasted three All-Australians including Scott Pendlebury, Alan Didak and Dane Swan.  Swan (24 votes) and Pendlebury (21) finished in the top five in the Brownlow.

throw the chequebook at him
has richmond connection

Agree :thumbsup
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: gerkin greg on July 03, 2011, 05:06:20 PM
get Hine too. package deal. get it done Richmond. get off your asses Cameron & Gale.

 
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: Rodgerramjet on July 03, 2011, 05:17:01 PM
get Hine too. package deal. get it done Richmond. get off your asses Cameron & Gale.

 

That's the way Gerks. Gerks is on fire, he's in create mode, putting a future there.

That's what you need to do Richmond football club, put a future there.
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: DCrane on July 03, 2011, 05:23:04 PM
Player wise we are looking at picks 13ish and mid 30's. We can't actually add much in the way of pure class so we simply have to get better.
Get Hine, get Neeld, get whoever it takes.

Footy is now a business of selling hope, this is the only way the club will be able to sell it over the off season.
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 03, 2011, 05:26:04 PM
get Hine too. package deal. get it done Richmond. get off your asses Cameron & Gale.

 

That's the way Gerks. Gerks is on fire, he's in create mode, putting a future there.

That's what you need to do Richmond football club, put a future there.

Gerk's for President :thumbsup
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: gerkin greg on July 03, 2011, 05:34:39 PM
get Hine too. package deal. get it done Richmond. get off your asses Cameron & Gale.

 

That's the way Gerks. Gerks is on fire, he's in create mode, putting a future there.

That's what you need to do Richmond football club, put a future there.

Gerk's for President :thumbsup

about time too
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: Coach on July 03, 2011, 05:40:30 PM
I better be sneaking into some sort of role if you're becoming president.
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: gerkin greg on July 03, 2011, 05:55:03 PM
back on topic you fat stuffs
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: Coach on July 03, 2011, 05:58:05 PM
Hahaha unreal boys. at least we're all mates now but I really hate you gerk.

Jay Schulz from Port is uncontracted. 56 goals from 25 games at Port, get him in
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: 1965 on July 03, 2011, 05:58:49 PM
back on topic you fat effs

OK

Are you stuffing crazy?

Wanting someone who has been tainted by the scum?

 :banghead
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: mightytiges on July 03, 2011, 06:49:31 PM
back on topic you fat effs

OK

Are you effing crazy?

Wanting someone who has been tainted by the scum?

 :banghead
I'd doubt Hines would leave the Pies as he is on too good a wicket there and I hate the Pies too but really who cares which club someone comes from as long as they are the best person for the job we need. Ex-Tigers Neil Balme and Duncan Kellaway have been good for Geelong despite coming from other clubs and in Balmey's case from the "scum"  ;D.
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: The Big Richo on July 03, 2011, 10:50:01 PM
The point is that Francis Jackson and Craig Cameron need to go.

I have heard first hand from a Bendigo Pioneers assistant coach that advice regarding a recent draftee who is no longer on our list was ignored and that the RFC recruiting staff are the least diligent in the AFL.

Needs to change, fast.
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: mightytiges on July 03, 2011, 10:56:36 PM
I have heard first hand from a Bendigo Pioneers assistant coach that advice regarding a recent draftee who is no longer on our list was ignored and that the RFC recruiting staff are the least diligent in the AFL.
That would've been Andrew Collins.
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: Smokey on July 04, 2011, 07:48:58 PM
I have heard first hand from a Bendigo Pioneers assistant coach that advice regarding a recent draftee who is no longer on our list was ignored and that the RFC recruiting staff are the least diligent in the AFL.
That would've been Andrew Collins.

And that would have been 2006.  Hardly a fair comment on today's recruiters if that's who it was.
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: The Big Richo on July 04, 2011, 07:54:10 PM
The second part of the comment is still true of today.
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: Smokey on July 04, 2011, 08:03:45 PM
The second part of the comment is still true of today.

You know that how or why?
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 04, 2011, 08:05:48 PM
The second part of the comment is still true of today.

You know that how or why?

Because he is TBR ;D
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: The Big Richo on July 04, 2011, 08:07:14 PM
I know someone with the Bendigo Pioneers who tells me that throughout the several years he has been there that Richmond have been one of the poorest clubs in terms of the contact they make with the Pios regarding potential draftees.
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: Smokey on July 04, 2011, 08:34:18 PM
I know someone with the Bendigo Pioneers who tells me that throughout the several years he has been there that Richmond have been one of the poorest clubs in terms of the contact they make with the Pios regarding potential draftees.

You can only pass judgment on the current recruiting team (the rest are past history and irrelevant to the point) and maybe they haven't seen too many from the Pio's that they like.  I will argue strongly that our recruiting/drafting record in the past couple of years has been pretty acceptable.
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: The Big Richo on July 04, 2011, 08:45:19 PM
So would I with a couple of exceptions and apart from Dusty who was a no brainer our staff probably haven't had much to do with the Pios in that time.
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: torch on July 04, 2011, 09:05:34 PM
Craig Cameron needs to get the SACK!

Then all our assistant coaches, if that doesn't happen, then SACK H-wick because he is obviously not what we thought.

He is a soft pony!

GET MALTHOUSE!
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 04, 2011, 09:30:21 PM
Craig Cameron needs to get the SACK!

Then all our assistant coaches, if that doesn't happen, then SACK H-wick because he is obviously not what we thought.

He is a soft pony!

GET MALTHOUSE!

i dont think he is torch, Dimma that is. I am reserving my judgement till this time next year and if we havent moved north then we are stuffed as a football club. I really believe that. If this combination of Gale/Dimma and successful assistant coaches cant take us forward then what hope have we got.

The big key is this week. If we lose in another heavy loss against the Bummers, then this season is a complete waste IMO.

Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: 10 FLAGS on July 04, 2011, 09:37:22 PM
The one thing that has disappointed me about Hardwick is his support for players like Jackson and Edwards et al. You cant say that these blokes are automatic starters- they arent good enough for that. Until the likes of these players have been moved on we wont improve as a team. Hardwick needs to live up to his reputation or his career aspirations in coaching will be ended. We've all seen this movie before, Its Hardwicks career or the players and if hes got any brains he'll get rid of them ASAP.
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 04, 2011, 09:42:44 PM


GET MALTHOUSE!

lol....Malthouse will send us back into the stone age! He's not a coaches butt! Smug, Arrogant prick that bullies his players. That team is getting by on talent only has nothing to do with the way here coached.
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 04, 2011, 09:44:16 PM
The one thing that has disappointed me about Hardwick is his support for players like Jackson and Edwards et al. You cant say that these blokes are automatic starters- they arent good enough for that. Until the likes of these players have been moved on we wont improve as a team. Hardwick needs to live up to his reputation or his career aspirations in coaching will be ended. We've all seen this movie before, Its Hardwicks career or the players and if hes got any brains he'll get rid of them ASAP.

i still think his the right man for the job but i really dislike public support for individual players like those 2 you mentioned.

Every ones spot should be up for grabs not this favouritism crap he seems to let everyone know about.

Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 04, 2011, 10:07:01 PM


GET MALTHOUSE!

lol....Malthouse will send us back into the stone age! He's not a coaches butt! Smug, Arrogant prick that bullies his players. That team is getting by on talent only has nothing to do with the way here coached.

Been a coach since 1984. Must be doing something right. :thumbsup
Personally Dimma started this rebuild and I feel he needs to get back to basics again and continue.
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: 1965 on July 04, 2011, 10:11:28 PM


GET MALTHOUSE!

lol....Malthouse will send us back into the stone age! He's not a coaches butt! Smug, Arrogant prick that bullies his players. That team is getting by on talent only has nothing to do with the way here coached.

Been a coach since 1984. Must be doing something right. :thumbsup
Personally Dimma started this rebuild and I feel he needs to get back to basics again and continue.

Yes, last weeks loss should mean we forget the whole finals thing for at least another year.

Play the kids and find out who might make it.

 :cheers
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 04, 2011, 10:19:17 PM


GET MALTHOUSE!

lol....Malthouse will send us back into the stone age! He's not a coaches butt! Smug, Arrogant prick that bullies his players. That team is getting by on talent only has nothing to do with the way here coached.

Been a coach since 1984. Must be doing something right. :thumbsup


Yes, he seem's to have had a habit of finding himself at good clubs......
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: gerkin greg on July 05, 2011, 10:02:16 AM
Hine is almost across the line with a new contract at the Pies, will ink the deal in the next week or so.
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: The Big Richo on July 05, 2011, 01:01:12 PM
Good, don't want him anyway.

His mum is a crap singer for a start.
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: gerkin greg on July 05, 2011, 01:25:59 PM
i'll ignore that 1965 attempt at humour and move on

what about Stephen Wells from the Catters?
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: Dice on July 05, 2011, 01:56:42 PM
what about Stephen Wells from the Catters?

The best in the business... again , aim high tiges.
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: The Big Richo on July 05, 2011, 02:00:24 PM
i'll ignore that 1965 attempt at humour and move on

what about Stephen Wells from the Catters?

Ahh but that is all the encouragement I need.

And he plays for North, stupid.  :wallywink
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on July 05, 2011, 07:21:41 PM
Don't encourage him.  :-X
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: The Big Richo on July 05, 2011, 07:45:38 PM
TBR is the sort of Mistress you want to leave alone, but something keeps drawing you back..........
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: Loui Tufga on July 05, 2011, 08:04:44 PM
TBR is the sort of Mistress you want to leave alone, but something keeps drawing you back..........

Sounds allot like the RFC as well ;D
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on July 05, 2011, 10:13:11 PM
TBR is the sort of Mistress you want to leave alone, but something keeps drawing you back..........

The cheap, hourly rate?  :police:
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: gerkin greg on July 06, 2011, 08:18:23 AM
 :lol

Bam!
Title: Re: Derek Hine from Collingwood is Uncontracted
Post by: 10 FLAGS on July 06, 2011, 09:39:58 AM
TBR is the sort of Mistress you want to leave alone, but something keeps drawing you back..........

The cheap, hourly rate?  :police:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA  :lol