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Richmond 2015 report card: Do the Tigers get a pass or fail?
Adam Smith
Herald-Sun
September 25, 2015
HOW do you rate a very promising season that ended with another finals disaster?
Can Damien Hardwick’s team continue its climb up the ladder and become a genuine contender next year? And who should the Tigers be chasing in trade talk to beat the finals hoodoo?
See our verdict and have your say.
SNAPSHOT
Wins: 15
Losses: 9
Draws: 0
Ladder position: 7th
%: 120.6
Last year: 3rd (up one spot)
WHAT WENT RIGHT
Despite the awful ending (more on that below) the Tigers made some big steps forward in 2015. They won 15 games — three more than last year — and the percentage of 120.6 was the club’s best since 1982. Interstate wins against Fremantle and Sydney were full of merit but the season highlight was a taming of Hawthorn in Round 18.
Alex Rance established himself as the competition’s No.1 defender, leading a back six that was one of the stingiest in the league. His re-signing was another high point, as was improvement in depth on the list — Kamdyn McIntosh and Ben Lennon won Rising Star nominations, Kane Lambert was a great rookie find and youngsters Connor Menadue, Liam McBean and Nathan Drummond got a taste of AFL action.
WHAT WENT WRONG
Sunday September 13. After setting up a serious September campaign, the Tigers blew it at the first hurdle — again. The elimination final will haunt the club for a long time and especially Trent Cotchin, Brandon Ellis, Shane Edwards and Troy Chaplin, who all played their worst games of the year when it mattered most.
Despite all that, Tiger fans will forever wonder what might have been if umpires had not missed an obvious holding the ball free kick against Ben Cunnington in the dying minutes.
Hopefully Choco Williams is passing on the lessons he learned when Port Adelaide choked repeatedly in the early 2000s. Unfortunately, we all have to wait another 12 months to find out.
Losses to Melbourne and Fremantle earlier in the season also weren’t ideal and proved extremely costly as Richmond just missed out on the double chance. Ouch.
BEST-AND-FAIREST
The Jack Dyer Medal count should be close with All-Australians Alex Rance, Brett Deledio and Jack Riewoldt are all in contention, but they might all be beaten by Dustin Martin. Trent Cotchin always polls well and Shane Edwards had a great first 15 rounds.
SUPERCOACH STUD
Dustin Martin became a more complete and consistent player in 2015. His SuperCoach average of 106 was a career-high and included three scores of 140-plus. The best Tiger buy was Brett Deledio any time after his return from injury in Round 6 — from Round 7 onwards he averaged 119 SuperCoach points a game, behind only Todd Goldstein, Patrick Dangerfield and Nat Fyfe. Alex Rance was also a great pick in defence and there was good value in rookies Kamdyn McIntosh and Kane Lambert.
SUPERCOACH DUD
Ivan Maric loomed as a cut-price premium ruckman at the start of the season but his output dropped from last year, averaging 95 points a game. He had a purple patch from Rounds 6-9 but only scored four 100-plus scores for the rest of the year.
THE LIST
Elite: Brett Deledio, Alex Rance, Jack Riewoldt, Dustin Martin
Big improvers: Shane Edwards, Jake Batchelor, Kamdyn McIntosh, Kane Lambert, Taylor Hunt
Gone: Chris Newman (retired), Nathan Foley (retired), Chris Knights (retired), Ricky Petterd (retired), Matt McDonough (delisted), Matt Arnot (delisted)
Going, going: Matt Thomas, Nathan Gordon
Trade bait: David Astbury, Matt Dea
WHAT THEY NEED
Priority one is another game-breaking midfielder. The bottom end of the list improved dramatically this year but to take the next step the Tigers need elite talent that can stand up on the big stage.
Those players don’t grow on trees, which is why the Tigers went hard for Adam Treloar (and reportedly Dan Hannebery and Dylan Shiel before him). With Treloar seemingly headed to Collingwood, will they back themselves to manage Harley Bennell?
Chris Yarran is set to wear Richmond colours next year but the Tigers have (thankfully) rejected suggestions Ben Lennon could be part of a swap.
Also on the wanted list are a quality small forward — Steve Johnson is available, but does he fit Dimma’s ethos? — and a ruckman to support and succeed Ivan Maric; Matthew Kreuzer is still on the radar.
PREMIERSHIP CLOCK
About 9pm. One saving grace for the Tigers is their best players are all in the 24-29 age bracket, so the flag window won’t slam shut for a few years. The problem is they should have prized it open it a year or two ago and now be enjoying the breeze, instead they are still wrestling with the lock. And younger lists like the Bulldogs and GWS are coming hard. A serious tilt next year including winning at least one final is non-negotiable. Sound familiar?
http://www.themercury.com.au/richmond-2015-report-card-do-the-tigers-get-a-pass-or-fail/story-fnj3twbb-1227543603934
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Best home and away season since 1982. Better than 95 & 01
Three Tigers in the All Australian team is unprecedented .
Richmond has developed into a side which has the ability to "strangle" teams to death. To out " fremanntle " Fremantle if you like.
All thrown away by another insipid finals choke.
In 12 months time that monkey sitting on Richmonds shoulders will be the size of a Gorilla.
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Fail.
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Fail.
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Had to win a final for it to be deemed a success, we didn't so therefore we fail
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Hear, hear, WP. Big fail for me. Had to win a fjnal for a pass Massive lack of effective leadership.
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What would it be if we missed the finals then ::)
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What would it be if we missed the finals then ::)
Double fail.
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What would it be if we missed the finals then ::)
We'd be looking for a new coach
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ANOTHER Fail.
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lol Failmond
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We were good enough to win the flag, it's as simple as that. Sitting here flossing my teeth as I watch the gAme , I'm thinking we beat these sides, e a s I l y . It should be us out there, :shh
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We were good enough to win the flag, it's as simple as that. Sitting here flossing my teeth as I watch the gAme , I'm thinking we beat these sides, e a s I l y . It should be us out there, :shh
But facts are we aren't so therefore to suggest we should be is foolish
We are a long way of winning a flag simply because we cannot win a final
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Absolute fail
As provable with tonight's result of Hawthorn beating Freo
Under achieved big time the Tiges
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We were good enough to win the flag, it's as simple as that. Sitting here flossing my teeth as I watch the gAme , I'm thinking we beat these sides, e a s I l y . It should be us out there, :shh
Easily.....Pffft Rubbish!
I watched the prelim tonight and there's is no way our bunch of pansy leaders would've helped beat any of them.
Finals is completely different beast to home & away matches, you've got to be tough and ruthless. There's no room for substandard efforts or going missing for large chunks of the match. You've got to be on and alert ready to attack every contest like it's your last ever contest. You've got to be aggressively competative as if your life depends on it, and you don't ever, ever, let a little spit beat you. Rance, Miles, Jack aren't in the leadership group but played this way.
Cotchin, Chaplin, Lids & Maric played extremely poorly and they will NOT live this down until they can repay this club in finals.
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I think we were good enough to win the flag
As Hardwick said on SEN
Our biggest hurdle was North and we failed
Not scared of any other team
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I think we were good enough to win the flag
As Hardwick said on SEN
Our biggest hurdle was North and we failed
Not scared of any other team
0/3 final wins in 3 years. Not gonna win 4 finals in 1 year against determined teams of similar motivation.
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We were good enough to win the flag, it's as simple as that. Sitting here flossing my teeth as I watch the gAme , I'm thinking we beat these sides, e a s I l y . It should be us out there, :shh
Easily.....Pffft Rubbish!
I watched the prelim tonight and there's is no way our bunch of pansy leaders would've helped beat any of them.
Finals is completely different beast to home & away matches, you've got to be tough and ruthless. There's no room for substandard efforts or going missing for large chunks of the match. You've got to be on and alert ready to attack every contest like it's your last ever contest. You've got to be aggressively competative as if your life depends on it, and you don't ever, ever, let a little spit beat you. Rance, Miles, Jack aren't in the leadership group but played this way.
Cotchin, Chaplin, Lids & Maric played like they had their rags and they will NOT live this down until they can repay this club in finals.
You must have won every norm smith medal everytime you played in AFL grand finals. Please tell us about how you were so good in so many finals , with your do or die attitude and aggressiveness. Did you even play AFL ? Did you or do you even play footy? The way you talk it seems to me ,that you are one of those blokes you find in the pub who tells anyone who'll listen , "I coulda made AFL". Or worse still lies about having played AFL , there's plenty of those duds around. If you had played footy to any level at all you wouldn't post like you do and you would certainly understand how things don't always go according to plan in finals, even with the greatest effort. :wallywink
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Fail for the club they haven't met the KPI's they set for themselves.
Personally we finished around where i thought we would, mid table. Unless we address some obvious problems, understand we dont have a list capable of winning a flag, A list lacking the right structure, enough quality, and genuine depth we will remain around mid table until some of the younger sides start going past us. We will then become a bottom dweller.
So what do we need to keep clubs at bay???? and become a better side?????. That has been the questions for the last three yrs. They remains the questions because they have never been addressed.
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FAIL
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We were good enough to win the flag, it's as simple as that. Sitting here flossing my teeth as I watch the gAme , I'm thinking we beat these sides, e a s I l y . It should be us out there, :shh
Easily.....Pffft Rubbish!
I watched the prelim tonight and there's is no way our bunch of pansy leaders would've helped beat any of them.
Finals is completely different beast to home & away matches, you've got to be tough and ruthless. There's no room for substandard efforts or going missing for large chunks of the match. You've got to be on and alert ready to attack every contest like it's your last ever contest. You've got to be aggressively competative as if your life depends on it, and you don't ever, ever, let a little spit beat you. Rance, Miles, Jack aren't in the leadership group but played this way.
Cotchin, Chaplin, Lids & Maric played like they had their rags and they will NOT live this down until they can repay this club in finals.
You must have won every norm smith medal everytime you played in AFL grand finals. Please tell us about how you were so good in so many finals , with your do or die attitude and aggressiveness. Did you even play AFL ? Did you or do you even play footy? The way you talk it seems to me ,that you are one of those blokes you find in the pub who tells anyone who'll listen , "I coulda made AFL". Or worse still lies about having played AFL , there's plenty of those duds around. If you had played footy to any level at all you wouldn't post like you do and you would certainly understand how things don't always go according to plan in finals, even with the greatest effort. :wallywink
lol. ive had my run ins with tigitis but he is pretty much on the money here.
we are no longer the worse than fitzroy team rebuilding. The time is now and sides that just accept that sometimes things go wrong in final dont win premierships.
but just for the sake of it, why dont you point out where and why he is wrong rather than slag off at him?
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So it is fine for him to slag off at our players but not okay for me to question as to what gives him so much knowledge of the game to do so. I maintain that a true supporter does not personally attack one or more players from their team on a public forum, why denigrate them if you supposedly support them, that's just immaturity.
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Mature supporters support the club and are able to seperate it from it's employees.
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So it is fine for him to slag off at our players but not okay for me to question as to what gives him so much knowledge of the game to do so. I maintain that a true supporter does not personally attack one or more players from their team on a public forum, why denigrate them if you supposedly support them, that's just immaturity.
That doesn't answer the question. Where was he wrong?
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For one as much as we might think that our players are going to war ,they are not ,it is a game ,suggesting that the players put their life on the line for a game is stupidity. And before you say he/she didn't say this, what does attack each contest like it is your last mean? All AFL footballers are some of the bravest sportsman in the world and all are trying their very best, again I say if you have played much football you would understand that sometimes things just don't go your way. To many people buy into the media groupthink about a loss in a final, or even three finals. If you listen to the commentators you would think that they never ever played a poor game.
Getting back to tigeritis, I have every right to question what knowledge/experience he/she has to personally denigrate our players. If you have never played the game at afl level it is very hard to understand how hard it is. You can have an opinion but I don't think abusing players is fair to them.
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your going on about the way in which he said it. and it was pretty tame really.
what about what he said?
can you see through to that?
and although none of us may have played the game at the highest level, we have seen enough to compare what those who win premierships do and what those that dont.
Attitude and desire to succeed has nothing to do with ability.
leaders need to stand up when it counts, regardless of what level they play at, that is why they are leaders.
you dont need to be blessed with elite sporting ability to see and understand that.
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For one as much as we might think that our players are going to war ,they are not ,it is a game ,suggesting that the players put their life on the line for a game is stupidity. And before you say he/she didn't say this, what does attack each contest like it is your last mean? All AFL footballers are some of the bravest sportsman in the world and all are trying their very best, again I say if you have played much football you would understand that sometimes things just don't go your way. To many people buy into the media groupthink about a loss in a final, or even three finals. If you listen to the commentators you would think that they never ever played a poor game.
Getting back to tigeritis, I have every right to question what knowledge/experience he/she has to personally denigrate our players. If you have never played the game at afl level it is very hard to understand how hard it is. You can have an opinion but I don't think abusing players is fair to them.
Have you played at the elite level?
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your going on about the way in which he said it. and it was pretty tame really.
what about what he said?
can you see through to that?
and although none of us may have played the game at the highest level, we have seen enough to compare what those who win premierships do and what those that dont.
Attitude and desire to succeed has nothing to do with ability.
leaders need to stand up when it counts, regardless of what level they play at, that is why they are leaders.
you dont need to be blessed with elite sporting ability to see and understand that.
Absolutely agree with that.
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your going on about the way in which he said it. and it was pretty tame really.
what about what he said?
can you see through to that?
and although none of us may have played the game at the highest level, we have seen enough to compare what those who win premierships do and what those that dont.
Attitude and desire to succeed has nothing to do with ability.
leaders need to stand up when it counts, regardless of what level they play at, that is why they are leaders.
you dont need to be blessed with elite sporting ability to see and understand that.
everyone can have an opinion, it's the personal recriminations that I struggle with, I just don't get that.
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For one as much as we might think that our players are going to war ,they are not ,it is a game ,suggesting that the players put their life on the line for a game is stupidity. And before you say he/she didn't say this, what does attack each contest like it is your last mean? All AFL footballers are some of the bravest sportsman in the world and all are trying their very best, again I say if you have played much football you would understand that sometimes things just don't go your way. To many people buy into the media groupthink about a loss in a final, or even three finals. If you listen to the commentators you would think that they never ever played a poor game.
Getting back to tigeritis, I have every right to question what knowledge/experience he/she has to personally denigrate our players. If you have never played the game at afl level it is very hard to understand how hard it is. You can have an opinion but I don't think abusing players is fair to them.
Have you played at the elite level?
It doesn't matter whether I have or not ,I,m not the one attacking the players and insulting them.
But as a matter of fact I have played at the elite level.
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well good for you, you must be know what your talking about then.
give it up son
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well good for you, you must be know what your talking about then.
give it up son
little insecure are we
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your going on about the way in which he said it. and it was pretty tame really.
what about what he said?
can you see through to that?
and although none of us may have played the game at the highest level, we have seen enough to compare what those who win premierships do and what those that dont.
Attitude and desire to succeed has nothing to do with ability.
leaders need to stand up when it counts, regardless of what level they play at, that is why they are leaders.
you dont need to be blessed with elite sporting ability to see and understand that.
everyone can have an opinion, it's the personal recriminations that I struggle with, I just don't get that.
Seriously? personal recriminations? in that?
FMD
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For one as much as we might think that our players are going to war ,they are not ,it is a game ,suggesting that the players put their life on the line for a game is stupidity. And before you say he/she didn't say this, what does attack each contest like it is your last mean? All AFL footballers are some of the bravest sportsman in the world and all are trying their very best, again I say if you have played much football you would understand that sometimes things just don't go your way. To many people buy into the media groupthink about a loss in a final, or even three finals. If you listen to the commentators you would think that they never ever played a poor game.
Getting back to tigeritis, I have every right to question what knowledge/experience he/she has to personally denigrate our players. If you have never played the game at afl level it is very hard to understand how hard it is. You can have an opinion but I don't think abusing players is fair to them.
Have you played at the elite level?
It doesn't matter whether I have or not ,I,m not the one attacking the players and insulting them.
But as a matter of fact I have played at the elite level.
If that's true (no point believing you tbh) no wonder you are overly sensitive about comments about players that are truly not that bad. As others said, his comments were rather tame.
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We were good enough to win the flag, it's as simple as that. Sitting here flossing my teeth as I watch the gAme , I'm thinking we beat these sides, e a s I l y . It should be us out there, :shh
Easily.....Pffft Rubbish!
I watched the prelim tonight and there's is no way our bunch of pansy leaders would've helped beat any of them.
Finals is completely different beast to home & away matches, you've got to be tough and ruthless. There's no room for substandard efforts or going missing for large chunks of the match. You've got to be on and alert ready to attack every contest like it's your last ever contest. You've got to be aggressively competative as if your life depends on it, and you don't ever, ever, let a little spit beat you. Rance, Miles, Jack aren't in the leadership group but played this way.
Cotchin, Chaplin, Lids & Maric played like they had their rags and they will NOT live this down until they can repay this club in finals.
You must have won every norm smith medal everytime you played in AFL grand finals. Please tell us about how you were so good in so many finals , with your do or die attitude and aggressiveness. Did you even play AFL ? Did you or do you even play footy? The way you talk it seems to me ,that you are one of those blokes you find in the pub who tells anyone who'll listen , "I coulda made AFL". Or worse still lies about having played AFL , there's plenty of those duds around. If you had played footy to any level at all you wouldn't post like you do and you would certainly understand how things don't always go according to plan in finals, even with the greatest effort. :wallywink
Sorry if this offends you but this is a bloody forum and I can give my opinion when I like and I can express those opinions how I think appropriate
If it's true that you did play at the highest level suggesting you've played AFL, congratulations, I can only guess your reply may suggests it wasn't a success.
Footy isn't everything not even to me but if your playing a final, every contest means everything and how you attack that contest separates the winners from the losers.
Our 4 leaders were pathetic and should be ashamed of themselves. They will never have success unless they can perform in finals, that I think is fact. Cotchin and Deledio especially must stand up in finals or their careers will more than likely end up like yours sticking up for substandard performances and attacking passionate supporters that want nothing less than another premiership.
It's my opinion and I'm sticking with it. :cheers
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There you go you can justify anything. I just laughed at you telling me my career was a failure. You are not a true supporter you are a punce. Interesting to know that lids actually averages 24 possies per final and a goal, I'd imagine you could only dream of ever doing that.
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There you go you can justify anything. I just laughed at you telling me my career was a failure. You are not a true supporter you are a punce. Interesting to know that lids actually averages 24 possies per final and a goal, I'd imagine you could only dream of ever doing that.
Ummmm....FYI, I don't want to boast but when I was 9 years old I used to able to thread the beanie thru the door goals from any angle playing bedroom footy and I never ever shirked a contest. And to be honest I've been dreaming about kicking the winning goal for Richmond in a GF every night since. :shh
BTW, your names not Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls is it?
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:rollin :rollin
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boo stuffing hoo.
take your "I was born with more natural ability than you so im better than you" attitude and shove it where the sun dont shine, but dont forget to get your head out of the way first.
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ha ha good for you, You asked me if I played footy at the elite level , I answered truthfully .I didn't make out I was superior to anybody, what I did was question your knowledge of football in making such sweeping conclusions about our players. Some of you "Keyboard headkickers" just don't like being called out . And please don't try and use the argument that what was said wasn't so bad , I read the other threads. if I was Jarrod Oakley -Nicholls I would be proud to be so ,because at least he had a go , no shame in that, although some you and your mates make fun of it. Punces
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ha ha good for you, You asked me if I played footy at the elite level , I answered truthfully .I didn't make out I was superior to anybody, what I did was question your knowledge of football in making such sweeping conclusions about our players. Some of you "Keyboard headkickers" just don't like being called out . And please don't try and use the argument that what was said wasn't so bad , I read the other threads. if I was Jarrod Oakley -Nicholls I would be proud to be so ,because at least he had a go , no shame in that, although some you and your mates make fun of it. Punces
Pretty sobering sometimes when you take a step back and think about how good you actually have to be to make it at the top level. Best footballer I ever played with was one of Wayne Johnstones boys. He could do everything and anything, kicked perfectly with both feet, could run all day and the way he found space in amongst packs was just unbelievable. Hands down the most gifted sportsman I've ever played with (also played with T. Cloke). He was just a a bit smaller than the ideal size for a midfielder. The bloke played 1 intra club practice match for Carlton and that's it.
And while we sit on this forum and pot blokes for this that and the other (and I'm as much a perpetrator as anyone else), sometimes it pays to reflect on how good these guys actually are. Troy Chaplin, the biggest whipping boy known to OER, was a Vic state footballer, golfer, basketballer (and a few other sports as well).
Anyway, my point is, sometimes it pays to remember that, whilst its all part of the game to call someone a hack and someone else a dud, just remember that even the worst bloke on our list is 10x the sportsman you are!
Go Tiges!
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Fail.
Agree
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ha ha good for you, You asked me if I played footy at the elite level , No i didnt I answered truthfully .I didn't make out I was superior to anybody, yes you did what I did was question your knowledge of football in making such sweeping conclusions about our players. Some of you "Keyboard headkickers" just don't like being called out . And please don't try and use the argument that what was said wasn't so bad , I read the other threads. if I was Jarrod Oakley -Nicholls I would be proud to be so ,because at least he had a go , no shame in that, although some you and your mates make fun of it. Punces
i dont think you know what you are on about. this part is just all over the shop like a mad woman's crap
the common theme here is that we were not blessed to born with natural ability therefore we have no right to question others effort,
yet effort, or competing to your best is the one thing we actually can control.
My suspicion here is we are starting to see the results of the everyone gets a prize for just turning up attitude being propagated
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ha ha good for you, You asked me if I played footy at the elite level , No i didnt I answered truthfully .I didn't make out I was superior to anybody, yes you did what I did was question your knowledge of football in making such sweeping conclusions about our players. Some of you "Keyboard headkickers" just don't like being called out . And please don't try and use the argument that what was said wasn't so bad , I read the other threads. if I was Jarrod Oakley -Nicholls I would be proud to be so ,because at least he had a go , no shame in that, although some you and your mates make fun of it. Punces
i dont think you know what you are on about. this part is just all over the shop like a mad woman's crap
Sorry, some of you keyboard headkickers just do not like being called out ,simple as that
the common theme here is that we were not blessed to born with natural ability therefore we have no right to question others effort,
yet effort, or competing to your best is the one thing we actually can control.
My suspicion here is we are starting to see the results of the everyone gets a prize for just turning up attitude being propagated
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:huh
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ha ha good for you, You asked me if I played footy at the elite level , I answered truthfully .I didn't make out I was superior to anybody, what I did was question your knowledge of football in making such sweeping conclusions about our players. Some of you "Keyboard headkickers" just don't like being called out . And please don't try and use the argument that what was said wasn't so bad , I read the other threads. if I was Jarrod Oakley -Nicholls I would be proud to be so ,because at least he had a go , no shame in that, although some you and your mates make fun of it. Punces
Dogged, seriously well done on your stellar career in the AFL. :clapping :clapping :clapping and thank you for calling us all names we are so pleased to had the privilege to be acknowledged by you :bow :bow :bow
But I think Google may have made a mistake and led you to the wrong forum.
This is OER and we like to say it how it is when it comes to our beloved Tigers. If you don't like it I suggest a forum that likes to praise the Jarred Oakley Nichols & the Robbie Nahas types and lauds their mediocrity. A forum that creams at the likes of Justin Plapp as the next Michael Roach or Silvester as our next premiership defender.
Do yourself a favour because if you think what I wrote earlier was unacceptable than you'll be in for a lot of frustration next year if it doesn't work out for atleast a finals win.
Good day Sir. :cheers :gotigers
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ha ha good for you, You asked me if I played footy at the elite level , I answered truthfully .I didn't make out I was superior to anybody, what I did was question your knowledge of football in making such sweeping conclusions about our players. Some of you "Keyboard headkickers" just don't like being called out . And please don't try and use the argument that what was said wasn't so bad , I read the other threads. if I was Jarrod Oakley -Nicholls I would be proud to be so ,because at least he had a go , no shame in that, although some you and your mates make fun of it. Punces
You're career was worse than JON's :gobdrop
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ha ha good for you, You asked me if I played footy at the elite level , I answered truthfully .I didn't make out I was superior to anybody, what I did was question your knowledge of football in making such sweeping conclusions about our players. Some of you "Keyboard headkickers" just don't like being called out . And please don't try and use the argument that what was said wasn't so bad , I read the other threads. if I was Jarrod Oakley -Nicholls I would be proud to be so ,because at least he had a go , no shame in that, although some you and your mates make fun of it. Punces
You're career was worse than JON's :gobdrop
Two things
That would be "Your" not "You're" (which is short for You are) :cheers
and...
Is Dogged Coach returned to haunt us?
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So, if you haven't played afl level football, you are unable to discern the pressures, emotions and setbacks of a professional environment ?
I reject your hypothesis.
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Especially when your AFL career consisted of two games for a total of 4 kicks.
:lol
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dogged aint coach and im pretty sure coach aint who 65 thinks he is
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Fail.
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dogged aint coach and im pretty sure coach aint who 65 thinks he is
That would be "is not" and "I'm".
I'm equally sure I couldn't give a flying stuff about correctly you but this thread is throwing up some random poo
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it could also be isn't or isnt if you couldnt be 3ffed using an apostrophe.
the apostrophe is also missing from ain't but some would argue that the controversial use of the term is a sign of lowbrow upbringing, in which case correct use of the apostrophe doesnt really matter.
an interesting discussion, but the one that gets me is the substitution of his for he's, which suggests the need for four vowels rather than five
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Ok back to topic folks
I reckon it was a fail BTW
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Ok back to topic folks
I reckon it was a fail BTW
Ummmmmm .....be careful WP according to "AFL legend" Dogged :bow your opinion isn't valid unless ofcoarse you played at the highest level like the great "AFL legend" Dogged :bow
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it could also be isn't or isnt if you couldnt be 3ffed using an apostrophe.
the apostrophe is also missing from ain't but some would argue that the controversial use of the term is a sign of lowbrow upbringing, in which case correct use of the apostrophe doesnt really matter.
an interesting discussion, but the one that gets me is the substitution of his for he's, which suggests the need for four vowels rather than five
All good :thumbsup
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Ok back to topic folks
I reckon it was a fail BTW
Ummmmmm .....be careful WP according to "AFL legend" Dogged :bow your opinion isn't valid unless ofcoarse you played at the highest level like the great "AFL legend" Dogged :bow
Thankyou.... and that would be "course" and not "coarse"
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The incorrect use of to, two and too annoys me the most.
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Ok back to topic folks
I reckon it was a fail BTW
i am glad you wrote "it was" instead of "twas."
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Dogged, Not sure if you have noticed, this is a footy forum where us bums get to let our hair down and shoot the poo about footy and argue about it, rightly or wrongly. To me you are just another anonymous bs artist until you can prove otherwise, so your claims carry as much weight as one of my cats litter box offerings. Welcome to the internet.
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Ok back to topic folks
I reckon it was a fail BTW
Ummmmmm .....be careful WP according to "AFL legend" Dogged :bow your opinion isn't valid unless ofcoarse you played at the highest level like the great "AFL legend" Dogged :bow
Thankyou.... and that would be "course" and not "coarse"
Dogged correcting Grammar. My apologies you can't be Coach.
:lol
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Dogged, Not sure if you have noticed, this is a footy forum where us bums get to let our hair down and shoot the poo about footy and argue about it, rightly or wrongly. To me you are just another anonymous bs artist until you can prove otherwise, so your claims carry as much weight as one of my cats litter box offerings. Welcome to the internet.
you're in a generous mood today owl.
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ha ha good for you, You asked me if I played footy at the elite level , I answered truthfully .I didn't make out I was superior to anybody, what I did was question your knowledge of football in making such sweeping conclusions about our players. Some of you "Keyboard headkickers" just don't like being called out . And please don't try and use the argument that what was said wasn't so bad , I read the other threads. if I was Jarrod Oakley -Nicholls I would be proud to be so ,because at least he had a go , no shame in that, although some you and your mates make fun of it. Punces
You're career was worse than JON's :gobdrop
Two things
That would be "Your" not "You're" (which is short for You are) :cheers
and...
Is Dogged Coach returned to haunt us?
Tell that to my iPhone
Also what's with this massive crush on Coach?
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Thankyou.... and that would be "course" and not "coarse"
This comment clearly shows that people who live in glass houses who have thrown many stones can continue to throw them without consequence as there is no more glass left to break.
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Dogged, Not sure if you have noticed, this is a footy forum where us bums get to let our hair down and shoot the poo about footy and argue about it, rightly or wrongly. To me you are just another anonymous bs artist until you can prove otherwise, so your claims carry as much weight as one of my cats litter box offerings. Welcome to the internet.
you're in a generous mood today owl.
Oh ok he is an AFL player and we should all be in awe lets play guess who it is. I reckon it's that stunted troglodyte Harvey from North Melbourne, the one with the allegedly fat girlfriend.
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If he is, he probably played for the dogs but barracked for Richmond. Hence he was dogged!
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I used to have a fat girlfriend. Now I have a fat wife.
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I used to have a fat girlfriend. Now I have a fat wife.
Don't shame me when I am fat shaming Harvey's square'y to score some cheap laughs ffs, what is wrong with you ?
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Wish I was shaming, sadly it's true. Actually it's not sad, i have a fetish.
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I'm hanging out for the multiple choice segment of this dog and pony show that has been running since 2008. If only he was brewing scotch at the same time.
I'm calling park footy scoreboard attendant. I'm sure a fingernail swab will reveal rust, paint flecks and Gosch's Paddock mud under those nails of his.
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haha
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This is just a forum fellas. Chill out a bit.
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If he is, he probably played for the dogs but barracked for Richmond. Hence he was dogged!
Dean Limbach's nick name is dogga.
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If he is, he probably played for the dogs but barracked for Richmond. Hence he was dogged!
Dean Limbach's nick name is dogga.
Thanks GR12. Didn't know that! :cheers
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I'm hanging out for the multiple choice segment of this dog and pony show that has been running since 2008. If only he was brewing scotch at the same time.
I'm calling park footy scoreboard attendant. I'm sure a fingernail swab will reveal rust, paint flecks and Gosch's Paddock mud under those nails of his.
:lol :lol
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I used to have a fat girlfriend. Now I have a fat wife.
:bow
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For one as much as we might think that our players are going to war ,they are not ,it is a game ,suggesting that the players put their life on the line for a game is stupidity. And before you say he/she didn't say this, what does attack each contest like it is your last mean? All AFL footballers are some of the bravest sportsman in the world and all are trying their very best, again I say if you have played much football you would understand that sometimes things just don't go your way. To many people buy into the media groupthink about a loss in a final, or even three finals. If you listen to the commentators you would think that they never ever played a poor game.
Getting back to tigeritis, I have every right to question what knowledge/experience he/she has to personally denigrate our players. If you have never played the game at afl level it is very hard to understand how hard it is. You can have an opinion but I don't think abusing players is fair to them.
Are you watching the GF?
What makes the pee&poo so good?
Finals success is make or break. You either win the contest or you lose.
It's the start of the second qtr and the GF is all over West coast is shot. Why? because the Hawks know how to win. Contest by contest, second efforts, ruthless attack on the footy etc.
With this sort of scoreboard pressure they now can afford to take all the risks in the world and most of them will come off.
Finals are made by ruthlessness. Lay a tackle you nail a tackle. Miss a target make sure you win the ball back. Attack the contest like it's your last ever.
With your backslapping, near enough is good enough, mediocre is ok attitude, I would be highly surprised if you had any success in your stellar AFL career.
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They have a talented list.
We don't.
Lmao
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They have a talented list.
We don't.
Lmao
We better get one then.
That said if half those Hawks player were at tiger land would they be just as good?
I think some clubs have a development level of excellence that demands a standard that far exceeds anything that we could ever dream of.
Unfortunately, like our AFL mate Dogged, there are still too many back slappers at punt road lauding mediocrity.
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Frawley is a good example of this. He would never see success at a useless club like Melbourne a club that can justify tanking.
A great team promotes the greatest standards and those standards permeate through to every facet of the club even the property steward. When they asked Players the difference between there former club or say the Hawks they'll tell you it's standards.
As a club we can be ruthless and demand excellence from everybody no excuses. Cotchin, Deledio, Maric have to live with there mediocrity or they can prove they aren't down hill skiers and we MUST demand it from them. We shouldn't ever except the likes of Chaplin or continue to pander to the likes of Griffiths or put up with substandard selections of Francis Jackson or money ball Hartley.
We should be sourcing the best recruiters, the best development coaches rather than lining the pockets of good mates.
Unless of course your content to be middle of the road mediocre poofs and you can continue to pat Griffiths on the back for "competing" and giving Chaplin a medal for being a great bloke and giving Conca a pay increase for being pick 6 in the draft, because he deserved his spot in elimination final.
We should be a ruthless club and it's time we made some big decisions.
Raise the standards
Demand excellence
And shut the hell up!
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We should be a ruthless club and it's time we made some big decisions.
Raise the standards
Demand excellence
And shut the hell up!
Can't see it happening under the current administration, coach, football department or list managers....
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Dear Damien,
"Big Boy Month" is September/early October not stuffing July.
Up Yours Sincerely,
Hawthorn FC
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:lol
pity damien will never get that message
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Dear Damien,
"Big Boy Month" is September/early October not stuffing July.
Up Yours Sincerely,
Hawthorn FC
:clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
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Dear Damien,
"Big Boy Month" is September/early October not stuffing July.
Up Yours Sincerely,
Hawthorn FC
:clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
X2
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So who's won the most premierships of late and how have their VFL teams been going. Geelong hawthorn Footscray get up there and they will probably overtake us this year..I like the way we are going at times and others NFI :banghead
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No finals win after 3 attempts.
Fail.
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Dear Damien,
"Big Boy Month" is September/early October not stuffing July.
Up Yours Sincerely,
Hawthorn FC
Absolutely. :thumbsup
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They have a talented list.
We don't.
Lmao
We better get one then.
That said if half those Hawks player were at tiger land would they be just as good?
I think some clubs have a development level of excellence that demands a standard that far exceeds anything that we could ever dream of.
Unfortunately, like our AFL mate Dogged, there are still too many back slappers at punt road lauding mediocrity.
Ha! I sure hit a nerve didn't I , or you wouldn't be going on about it. My vision of you is a little, inoffensive, emasculated male, who dreams of greatness but lacks the ticker to put it out there, it's far easier to criticise our players from behind a keyboard. Trying to humiliate our players from anonymity, I believe you basically are a coward.
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They have a talented list.
We don't.
Lmao
We better get one then.
That said if half those Hawks player were at tiger land would they be just as good?
I think some clubs have a development level of excellence that demands a standard that far exceeds anything that we could ever dream of.
Unfortunately, like our AFL mate Dogged, there are still too many back slappers at punt road lauding mediocrity.
Ha! I sure hit a nerve didn't I , or you wouldn't be going on about it. My vision of you is a little, inoffensive, emasculated male, who dreams of greatness but lacks the ticker to put it out there, it's far easier to criticise our players from behind a keyboard. Trying to humiliate our players from anonymity, I believe you basically are a coward.
Yeah ....
Real men get drunk and tell abuse at them over the fence