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Tigers outplayed, but not outworked
7:41 PM Sun 22 July, 2007
By Jason Phelan
for richmondfc.com.au
TERRY Wallace has praised the effort of his players but lamented their poor decision-making and skill errors after the Tigers slipped to a 55-point loss to Port Adelaide on Sunday.
“I didn’t think the effort to win [the ball] was that bad, but certainly the ability to hang onto it from that stage was the thing that we saw as the clear difference between the two sides,” Wallace said after the match.
“The skill level of the opposition was far too great, whether it was their goalkicking – I think they ended up with 15.1 from set shots – or our turnover rate. They actually got 15 goals directly from our turnovers and that hurts you in any game of footy.
“From an effort point of view I didn’t think that there was anything wrong with it. I think [our players] showed in the first quarter when Port Adelaide jumped out and kicked the first three or four goals that they were really determined to step back.
“The other clear difference between the two sides was their very, very best players played terrific and we didn’t get the same result out of our best players.”
The result was not what champion spearhead Matthew Richardson would have hoped for in his 250th match, but Wallace said it was unfair to link the milestone to the disappointing performance.
“I didn’t think there was any lack of respect for Matthew,” Wallace said.
“You’re not thinking about respect when you turn the ball over, or you’re running 60m out from goal and you miss a target. I don’t think that’s got anything to do with the respect factor.”
Wallace was disappointed his side had failed to reward fans in the past fortnight, but vowed to fight out the season, starting with next week’s trip to Sydney.
“It’s been disappointing in the last couple of weeks that we’ve been hurt by our own mistakes,” he said.
“We’ve played two very, very skilled sides … and from that point of view it doesn’t get a heck of a lot easier over the next four weeks.
“It’s no use making grandiose statements or people just think you’re making excuses all the time. All you can do is just bat up. There’s nowhere to hide in this competition … and if you drop off 10 per cent you’ll get belted by sides that are hungry and desperate to play finals footy.
“We’ve got enough to prove and we’ll go interstate next week and put up our best show again.
“It’s been a very tough year at the club. We don’t hide that [we don’t accept] where we are at the moment, but we don’t step away from the direction that we’re heading in.
“I’ve seen some sides over a period of time go through some pretty tough times, but I’ve also seen them come out of those tough times.”
http://richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=47779
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We don't seem to be getting any better though :banghead
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It is clear that we have gone backwards.
Wallace should walk. He is no Coach
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I am convinced that Wallace wasnt at the match.
How could anyway say the effort was there is a disgrace.- he actually states there was nothing wrong from an effort point of view
They actually gave up in passages in the third quarter.
Terry, time to go buddy.
The teams doesnt play with passion and doesnt have a red hot go.
As for not stepping away from the direction your heading in, word of advice , turn around and go back as you are heading in the wrong direction Terry.
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The result was not what champion spearhead Matthew Richardson would have hoped for in his 250th match, but Wallace said it was unfair to link the milestone to the disappointing performance.
“I didn’t think there was any lack of respect for Matthew,” Wallace said.
Perhaps not but I do think a couple blokes wouldn't be able to look Richo in the eye after their efforts today :'(
It is clear that we have gone backwards.
Wallace should walk. He is no Coach
MT & I were talking about where we are today and for me at least this is probably the season from hell we (read I) needed to get a clear understanding of where we are at.
I honestly thought we would play finals this year but when we started and didn't have our absolute best out there it showed how much work needs to be done. I know exactly where we are at and we are heading
And at this stage I don't think the coach should go but certainly some of the players should. The coach going will yet again protect some players and that aint going to help
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WP. we are at rock bottom in 3 years into the coaches contract.
There are considerable questions on the coach.
Clean players and coaches out at seasons end at start again.
I still am trying to work out how he tagged a player he delisted 15 rounds ago, i am bemused and confused. Its laughable.
You mention players not be able to look richo in the eye, maybe the coach has ""lost them""
Going on todays effort with players not chasing , I reckon he has lost them
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WP. we are at rock bottom in 3 years into the coaches contract.
There are considerable questions on the coach.
Clean players and coaches out at seasons end at start again.
I still am trying to work out how he tagged a player he delisted 15 rounds ago, i am bemused and confused. Its laughable.
You mention players not be able to look richo in the eye, maybe the coach has ""lost them""
Going on todays effort with players not chasing , I reckon he has lost them
Jack I appreciate what you are saying (actually always thought the Rodan thing would bite us ;)) but I think this time round we have to make our players accountable for there efforts. I have always thought that players get off easy when things are crap. Easier to sack a coach than sack an entire team.
Perhaps Jack just perhaps we needed to get to rock bottom before we try to get anywhere. 2004 we (supporters) wanted anything, needed something and we went out and got a coach that at the time everyone was saying was going to be good/great for this Club.
And for the last 2 season perhaps we have been spoilt because I am now of the opinion that we probably achieved more than we should have because we were all caught up in this huge wave - now reality has bitten because due to injuries, poor form and whole range of things our underbelly has been exposed for what it is - a massive WIP project.
The most ironic thing is 12-15 months ago people were happy with where we were heading and who was the coach then? IIRC it's the same bloke we have now and for now he and the entire Club will continue to have my support because I honestly believe in my heart of heart we are on the right track - because kids like Reiwoldt, Edwards, Foley, McGuane, Pattison, King are showing it
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The game plan has changed dramatically.
whats happened to the 100 points a game.
The run and carry has disappeared only to be replaced by Lateral short kicks which we turn over because we arent skilled enough.
We have inside f 50 entries continually turned over because the players dont understand who turn it is to be the hit up target and who plays deep. these are simple things at AFL level.
Go and watch the saints, cats who,s forward set-ups do work.
I dont see Riewoldt crashing into Gehrig.
Dont see Cam Mooney crashing into N. Ablett or Hawkins, why, as they are taught not to.
I counted Schultz and Richo on at least 8 occasions today crashing into each other and commented to people around me and they got the gist of what was happening.
Its called forward spreading the opposition backman but WE little idea in what it means or how it works.
I could write here for hours, seriously
Its disgrace.
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The game plan has changed dramatically.
whats happened to the 100 points a game.
The run and carry has disappearde only to be replaced by Lateral short kicks which we turn over because we arent skilled enough.
We have inside f 50 entries continually turned over because the players dont understand who turn it si to be the hit up target and who plays deep. these are simple things at AFL level.
Go and watch the saints, cats who forward set-ups do work.
I dont see Riewoldt crashing into Gehrig.
Dont see Cam Mooney crashing into N. Ablett or Hawkins, why, as they are taught not to.
I counted Schultz and Richo on at least 8 occasions today crashing into each other and commented to people around me and they got the gist of what was happening.
Its called forward spreading the opposition backman but WE little idea in what it means or how it works.
I could write here for hours, seriously
Its disgrace.
we did run and carry, we ar aiming to get over 100pts per game
its not the game plan, its the players, the experienced players who cant get a hold of what to do.
we went inside 5o as much as port, we had the ball as much as port
we just turned the friggen thing over too many times ]
thats not the coaches fault its the damn players
and about richo, i think the players spoke with their actions today, and i think its not about players looking him in the eye but him looking at players in the eye. he once again showed he is not a team man , and its all about him
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We got 100 points today
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The game plan has changed dramatically.
whats happened to the 100 points a game.
The run and carry has disappearde only to be replaced by Lateral short kicks which we turn over because we arent skilled enough.
We have inside f 50 entries continually turned over because the players dont understand who turn it si to be the hit up target and who plays deep. these are simple things at AFL level.
Go and watch the saints, cats who forward set-ups do work.
I dont see Riewoldt crashing into Gehrig.
Dont see Cam Mooney crashing into N. Ablett or Hawkins, why, as they are taught not to.
I counted Schultz and Richo on at least 8 occasions today crashing into each other and commented to people around me and they got the gist of what was happening.
Its called forward spreading the opposition backman but WE little idea in what it means or how it works.
I could write here for hours, seriously
Its disgrace.
we did run and carry, we ar aiming to get over 100pts per game
its not the game plan, its the players, the experienced players who cant get a hold of what to do.
we went inside 5o as much as port, we had the ball as much as port
we just turned the friggen thing over too many times ]
thats not the coaches fault its the damn players
and about richo, i think the players spoke with their actions today, and i think its not about players looking him in the eye but him looking at players in the eye. he once again showed he is not a team man , and its all about him
Mate, I really cant be bothered debating this
You say we went inside 50 the same time as Port, but we tunred it over.Reason being is that the forwarsd dont spread and take the opposition backman out of the contest , they all try and win the same ball, thus the opposition players leave there direct opponent and the hit -up forward usually then has to beat his direct opponent and another or even 2 oppostion players
Blame, THE COACH!
We dont run and carry I am sorry. We short kick laterally in D 50, thus you will find Joel Bowden has heaps of unconested possesions which are usually short( under 25 metres)
And , we did kick 100 points, the opposition kicked 25 goals and WE DIDNT win a quarter
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I could write here for hours, seriously
Its disgrace.
No kidding :lol :rollin :shh :whistle
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Mate, I really cant be bothered debating this
Then why bother posting on an interenet forum.
If not for the debate then maybe just so you can make pronouncements.
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No kidding :lol :rollin :shh :whistle
:thatsgold
:thumbsup
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Mate, I really cant be bothered debating this
Then why bother posting on an interenet forum.
If not for the debate then maybe just so you can make pronouncements.
Well 1965, I would love to here your views on the game , do tell
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Mate, I really cant be bothered debating this
Then why bother posting on an interenet forum.
If not for the debate then maybe just so you can make pronouncements.
Well 1965, I would love to here your views on the game , do tell
the sun was nice.
the ground looked a picture.
we were rabble.
jack showed enough to know he is part of the future.
mcguane was our only clear winner on the day.
bowden needs to go.
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We done 1965, good to see you watched some of the game.
:clapping
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We done 1965, good to see you watched some of the game.
:clapping
and worst of all the crowd (at 22,000) was pathetic.
jack
who would you like to see as coach next year
if you say MK I will vomit
If we get a new coach would you return to the club?
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mate, I havent left the club, was there today sitting in the Tiger executive but it was disappointing there was no one there. Probably 10 out of 90 members attended ::)
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My mini appraisal of what has to change for the future to be bright, much more is needed but this is a start. . .
Backline:
Bowden omitted must be traded at the end of the year while he has any value, Raines cya later, VFL time, learn to kick and not give hospital passes.
Enter Casserly and Connors.
Midfield:
Hyde, Tiv, Howat, Tuck. You all are duds. I would consider Tiv as a forward pocket sweeping simply because he knows the goals so well but it's too late for him now.
Enter empty spots, Bling if he hits his straps and Cogs. And that's a biiig worry, we need Rhys Palmer, Trent Cotchin(With pick 2), or Scott Selwood or Jack Grimes with priority pick I'm afraid. :scream
Forwards:
Schulz (dud, hate to say it because he has such a massive upside it seems but its not showing, sorry Sarge. From a once big supporter)
Enter Hughes, Peterson
NOTE: Richo needs to start accepting he's not what he was I'm afraid and start to think of the club instead of himself and take a lesser role to let Hughes and Jack learn the trade. Sometimes the truth hurts but RFC needs to face it to establish a successful future. Sorry Richo, you're a champ but the truth hurts. :'(
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mate, I havent left the club, was there today sitting in the Tiger executive but it was disappointing there was no one there. Probably 10 out of 90 members attended ::)
Great supporters they are for Richo's 250th ::)
Are these the blokes deciding our future?
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mate, I havent left the club, was there today sitting in the Tiger executive but it was disappointing there was no one there. Probably 10 out of 90 members attended ::)
Great supporters they are for Richo's 250th ::)
Are these the blokes deciding our future?
Exactly Moi - it was indictment on our club today that these so called "supporters" didn't bother to turn up. In a word disgraceful
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When you seen me WP, about 10 other people sat in that section ::)
Inside there were 10 members and probably 8-10 guests and thats it
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When you seen me WP, about 10 other people sat in that section ::)
Inside there were 10 members and probably 8-10 guests and thats it
yes the number sin the player Club were down too - as I said DISGRACEFUL
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My mini appraisal of what has to change for the future to be bright, much more is needed but this is a start. . .
Backline:
Bowden omitted must be traded at the end of the year while he has any value, Raines cya later, VFL time, learn to kick and not give hospital passes.
Enter Casserly and Connors.
Midfield:
Hyde, Tiv, Howat, Tuck. You all are duds. I would consider Tiv as a forward pocket sweeping simply because he knows the goals so well but it's too late for him now.
Enter empty spots, Bling if he hits his straps and Cogs. And that's a biiig worry, we need Rhys Palmer, Trent Cotchin(With pick 2), or Scott Selwood or Jack Grimes with priority pick I'm afraid. :scream
Forwards:
Schulz (dud, hate to say it because he has such a massive upside it seems but its not showing, sorry Sarge. From a once big supporter)
Enter Hughes, Peterson
NOTE: Richo needs to start accepting he's not what he was I'm afraid and start to think of the club instead of himself and take a lesser role to let Hughes and Jack learn the trade. Sometimes the truth hurts but RFC needs to face it to establish a successful future. Sorry Richo, you're a champ but the truth hurts. :'(
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i am with ya all the way, but be careful, i have been saying this all yr but richo is untouchable. look out u will get bashed for saying that about richo, but im with ya in ur corner!
but about tivs, he has to go too
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I still am trying to work out how he tagged a player he delisted 15 rounds ago, i am bemused and confused. Its laughable.
Pretty simple really, he is playing good football something he was not doing at Richmond.
WHY ? Well that is another ?
Just what happens in footy sometimes, not just at RFC.
Give me your HONEST apprasial of D Rod at the end of last year ?
Yeah I am starting to loss a bit of faith in TW, but you just use everything you can as an argument against him. Which gets a bit monotonous at times.
And again what is the point now getting rid of Wallace. Give him next year at least and if the same old is going on, then look at the options. He did take over a pooh list and has turned over quite a few to date, I didn't expect instant miracles. But I did expect more than what has been dished up this year :banghead
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Members stay away from football when they know whats going down every week :shh
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THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH RICHMOND ...
IT IS OUR PLAYERS ...
REMEMBER TERRY DOESN'T PLAY OUT ON THE GROUND ...
IT IS OUT PLAYERS ...
AS I STARTED READING THIS TOPIC ...
IT ONLY TOOK A FEW POSTS AND THIS IS THE CORRECT ANSWER ...
OUR PLAYERS ...
WE SHOULD LOOK FOR PLAYERS THAT HAVE A GO ...
PLAYERS THAT DON'T SHOW EMOTION ETC MUST GO ...
FOR YEARS PLAYERS HAVE SAVED THERE CAREERS BY PLAYING GOOD LAST ROUNDS ...
JAY ... IS NOW IN VERY DEEP TROUBLE ... I THINK HE CAN PLAY ... BUT IS JUST NOT SWITCH ON !!!
TIVENDALE FOR YEARS HAS DONE THIS ...
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DELIST HIM !!!
HE SHOULD BE WINNING MATCHES FOR US LIKE SHANNON GRANT AT THAT TEAM THAT DESERVES 30,000 MEMBERS AND NOT US !!!
JOEL BOWDEN IS A MASSIVE PROBLEM ...
HE WILLN'T BE DELISTED ... BUT HE IS A PROBLEM AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN ...
HE IS THE BIGGEST SOFT CHICKEN YOU WOULD EVER SEE PLAYING AFL ...
DOES HE EVER GET HIS HANDS DIRTY ???
CHRIS HYDE ...
JUST GET RID OF HIM FULL STOP ...
danny meyer is probably 75% chance of getting delisted ... though he is a better half forward then chris hyde and better skill ...
i heard that the reason we drop Tambling was because of an incident last week against Hawthorn where he didn't want to talk to Terry ??? ... is this true ??? ... because if it is ... then that is very good ... that just shows that Tambling isn't doing something right ... (getting 5-6 touches would get you on the bench and wouldn't help) ... this could work in a very good result ... or very ugly result ... Tambling may just click and turn his career around or just doesn't want to play under Terry ...
THIS IS HURTING ME WATCHING AND TALKING LIKE THIS ABOUT RICHMOND BUT I WANT US TO CONTINUE ...
BECAUSE I AND YOU CAN TELL WHICH PLAYERS ARE HERE TO PLAY ...
AND I JUST HOPE TO GOD THAT TERRY CAN SEE THOSE WHO AREN'T MUST BE DELISTED ASAP ...
I CAN'T SEE THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL ... BUT I CAN SEE A LOT OF NEW NAMES TO THIS TEAM NEXT YEAR ... I HOPE ...
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mate, I havent left the club, was there today sitting in the Tiger executive but it was disappointing there was no one there. Probably 10 out of 90 members attended ::)
probably because it wasnt an executive game ;)
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mate, I havent left the club, was there today sitting in the Tiger executive but it was disappointing there was no one there. Probably 10 out of 90 members attended ::)
probably because it wasnt an executive game ;)
Blaisee, there wasnt a luncheon, you are correct.
But they have exclusive use of that room.
So people pay big $$$$$$$ to only go to 4 games a year do they ::)
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mate, I havent left the club, was there today sitting in the Tiger executive but it was disappointing there was no one there. Probably 10 out of 90 members attended ::)
probably because it wasnt an executive game ;)
Blaisee, there wasnt a luncheon, you are correct.
But they have exclusive use of that room.
So people pay big $$$$$$$ to only go to 4 games a year do they ::)
mate, I am an executive, and i only go to 5-6 games, i ahve 2 kids under 3,
By the way, I was there yesterday, where were you, we may of even had a chat, without knowing it ;)
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I know who you are Blaisee :shh
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I know who you are Blaisee :shh
of course you do ;)
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Blaisee,
I am not trying to question if you are a member of the Tiger executive, but i hear on the grapevine that a lot of the members of the executive are very pi$$ed off with our current situation and are looking for the blood of one Terry Wallace.
Can you confirm or deny?
Have you heard anything similar to this?
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Blaisee,
I am not trying to question if you are a member of the Tiger executive, but i hear on the grapevine that a lot of the members of the executive are very pi$$ed off with our current situation and are looking for the blood of one Terry Wallace.
Can you confirm or deny?
Have you heard anything similar to this?
i can only speak for myslelf
I can see no benefit, none, in sacking terry wallace, I also see no benefit, none, in getting crazy john on board.
The best thing that can happen to the club, is finish with less that 5 wins next year, get another priority pick and rebuild.
We are a long way away, and the club knows it.
The people I talk to generally feel the same way.
The shining light at the moment are the boys from coburg, there is a sprinkling of elite talent there, they are being taught the right way, and are not being gifted games. Wallets model of playig the kids only when they earn a game is a model I agree with.
People dont understand the fact that wallet wants the ytoungsters to develop as quickly as possible
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The best thing that can happen to the club, is finish with less that 5 wins next year, get another priority pick and rebuild.
Geeez it's going to get tougher still next year?? I know we're a fair way away but I thought 7-8 wins should be minimum next year. :-[
However regardless it'll be :gotigers for me and I'll keep :pray
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THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH RICHMOND ...
IT IS OUR PLAYERS ...
REMEMBER TERRY DOESN'T PLAY OUT ON THE GROUND ...
IT IS OUT PLAYERS ...
AS I STARTED READING THIS TOPIC ...
IT ONLY TOOK A FEW POSTS AND THIS IS THE CORRECT ANSWER ...
OUR PLAYERS ...
WE SHOULD LOOK FOR PLAYERS THAT HAVE A GO ...
PLAYERS THAT DON'T SHOW EMOTION ETC MUST GO ...
FOR YEARS PLAYERS HAVE SAVED THERE CAREERS BY PLAYING GOOD LAST ROUNDS ...
JAY ... IS NOW IN VERY DEEP TROUBLE ... I THINK HE CAN PLAY ... BUT IS JUST NOT SWITCH ON !!!
TIVENDALE FOR YEARS HAS DONE THIS ...
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DELIST HIM !!!
HE SHOULD BE WINNING MATCHES FOR US LIKE SHANNON GRANT AT THAT TEAM THAT DESERVES 30,000 MEMBERS AND NOT US !!!
JOEL BOWDEN IS A MASSIVE PROBLEM ...
HE WILLN'T BE DELISTED ... BUT HE IS A PROBLEM AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN ...
HE IS THE BIGGEST SOFT CHICKEN YOU WOULD EVER SEE PLAYING AFL ...
DOES HE EVER GET HIS HANDS DIRTY ???
you cannot be serious Joel Bowden puts his body on the line every week he is one of our top players & for supporters to be saying his a problem & soft seriously dont know nothing about the game or the RFC
Bowden has seriously got no support down back always plays on bigger players & l beleive the coach is not supportting him by playing players like Polak out of position sitting loose like a goose & having McGuane playing at Coburg please dont make me start
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You mention players not be able to look richo in the eye, maybe the coach has ""lost them""
Going on todays effort with players not chasing , I reckon he has lost them
That's my biggest concern.
Not that Wallace can't coach, it's just that the players aren't responding to him.
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JOEL BOWDEN IS A MASSIVE PROBLEM ...
HE WILLN'T BE DELISTED ... BUT HE IS A PROBLEM AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN ...
HE IS THE BIGGEST SOFT CHICKEN YOU WOULD EVER SEE PLAYING AFL ...
DOES HE EVER GET HIS HANDS DIRTY Huh
im with YOU MATE!!!!!!
He has everyone fooled.
I hope he gets th royal arse treatment just so i can see the look on his
spoilt brat face.
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You mention players not be able to look richo in the eye, maybe the coach has ""lost them""
Going on todays effort with players not chasing , I reckon he has lost them
That's my biggest concern.
Not that Wallace can't coach, it's just that the players aren't responding to him.
Post of the week Magic.
Your on the money
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I know who you are Blaisee :shh
of course you do ;)
Its not too hard.
I know 8 or the 10 there yesterday.
You had your kids with you ????
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u say he's lost them,
I say if they can't play for the RFC,regardless,then we dont want them!
Stop hiding behind the coach guys,this is BS.
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Wallace never looks threatening, he seems like the guy who commands respect but wants to be the player's best friend at the same time and might get too cushy.
However I can see how he could've lost them. It's more likely they've lost themselves in the mass of losses and all Terry can do is try to solidify them back into a team instead of a group of players playing for themselves and another contract.
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yeah ... seems to be too nice to the players ... needs to be a dog like he was at the bulldogs ...
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You mention players not be able to look richo in the eye, maybe the coach has ""lost them""
Going on todays effort with players not chasing , I reckon he has lost them
That's my biggest concern.
Not that Wallace can't coach, it's just that the players aren't responding to him.
Post of the week Magic.
Your on the money
then the players have to go! not the coach
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JOEL BOWDEN IS A MASSIVE PROBLEM ...
HE WILLN'T BE DELISTED ... BUT HE IS A PROBLEM AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN ...
HE IS THE BIGGEST SOFT CHICKEN YOU WOULD EVER SEE PLAYING AFL ...
DOES HE EVER GET HIS HANDS DIRTY Huh
im with YOU MATE!!!!!!
He has everyone fooled.
I hope he gets th royal behind treatment just so i can see the look on his
spoilt brat face.
Did anyone see this week SOB duck his head twice yesterday when going for a mark.
They were both only one on one's also.
There is no way this guy was in our best yesterday and he had over 30 again. He is lazy and not very accountable when playing a stopping/defensive role.
He wasnt even near Chad Cornes most of the first qtr.
I am with you on this one X, he is our biggest cancer.
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u say he's lost them,
I say if they can't play for the RFC,regardless,then we dont want them!
Stop hiding behind the coach guys,this is BS.
:clapping :clapping :clapping spot on ())(
Did anyone see this week SOB duck his head twice yesterday when going for a mark.
They were both only one on one's also.
There is no way this guy was in our best yesterday and he had over 30 again. He is lazy and not very accountable when playing a stopping/defensive role.
He wasnt even near Chad Cornes most of the first qtr.
As I said in my votes after getting me back on side over the last 5 years he jus about lost me complete again after yesterday -extremely disappointed in Joel's game - shocking
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Cancerous Joel.
As long as he is or has been in the team we have been going nowhere.
Selfish selfish player. Frawley dropping him in 04 did him a favour by then returning
him to play a new role and spread his disease once again. Sure he won a few best and fairests but it is now where we have a struggling team and his weakness gutlessness and selfishness is more evident. Trade trade trade he is still only 30 and he will have some value to some team that may want to top up. If a trade does not come up send him off to the police force and he can do his community work full time. Time to start the chemotherapy and but this cancer into remission. :pray