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Title: Changes For Next Week
Post by: WA Tiger on June 09, 2012, 04:30:44 PM
Out: mini Maric
In: King
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Coach on June 09, 2012, 04:43:58 PM
Guthrie
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Phil Mrakov on June 09, 2012, 04:56:37 PM
Will Foley be right?

Jack looked fakred out there he might miss.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: georgies31 on June 09, 2012, 05:12:41 PM
Maric is hopeless no second efforts.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 09, 2012, 05:48:54 PM
Ins: King, Miller, White

Outs: Mini Maric, Vickery, Cotchin (inj Dr Larkins on 3AW said Cotchin may a bone crack just above the elbow).

BTW if Jack's ankle doesn't come up Vickery stays

And I'm being nice there's another 2 or 3 who should be dropped based on todays "efforts"
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: 1965 on June 09, 2012, 05:51:07 PM


Will ceratinly watch Coburg with interest tomorrow.

 :cheers

By the way, I still have us making the eight.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Jackstar is back again on June 09, 2012, 05:56:40 PM
Vickery out
In  Anyone who wants to play Physical football
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Yeahright on June 09, 2012, 06:00:34 PM
Ins: King, Miller, White

Outs: Mini Maric, Vickery, Cotchin (inj Dr Larkins on 3AW said Cotchin may a bone crack just above the elbow).

BTW if Jack's ankle doesn't come up Vickery stays

And I'm being nice there's another 2 or 3 who should be dropped based on todays "efforts"

Who are the other 2-3. Just curious as I missed the game
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Ruanaidh on June 09, 2012, 06:05:02 PM
Just got back from the game >:( Today there were too many players poo-scared to put their head over the footy. Over the past couple of weeks I've been intimating that Ellis needs a break etc. The reason being is that he plays scared!  He hangs out at contests and runs forward of play (leaving his man) at every opportunity.......and he would rather paddle the ball than risk taking possession and possibly receiving a bruising tackle. That effort in the pocket was embarrasing! Houli does similarly and would rather kick the ball along the ground than get down and risk a hit. Maric, well he has brought the MFC bruise free style to Richmond and will be dropped as a result.

My outs: Ellis, Maric and Jackson (not an AFL footballer)
My ins: Kingy, Connors and Foley/Arnot.

Vickery is very lucky.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 09, 2012, 06:07:51 PM
Out Mini Maric,
In Foley

Hopefully Cotch is okay and so is Jack but if they are injured maybe the fact we have GWS and a bye a week later give them time to get over ailments and they don't miss too much footy.

Batch made two critical errors today. I love the kid but his error in the last got Freo their two early goals and 15 point break when we had all the play in the last until then.

Don't know if King should be in the side at this stage.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 09, 2012, 06:11:56 PM
Ins: King, Miller, White

Outs: Mini Maric, Vickery, Cotchin (inj Dr Larkins on 3AW said Cotchin may a bone crack just above the elbow).

BTW if Jack's ankle doesn't come up Vickery stays

And I'm being nice there's another 2 or 3 who should be dropped based on todays "efforts"

Who are the other 2-3. Just curious as I missed the game

Ellis see Ruanaidh's post
Dea - that 20 metre squib kick in the 3rd sums it up
Grigg - refuses to go in for a hard ball. See final qtr he needed to attack a contest, stopped and propped = heartbreaker

Also didn't include Foley in my original INS because I reckon he will miss another week
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Ruanaidh on June 09, 2012, 06:12:47 PM

Batch made two critical errors today. I love the kid but his error in the last got Freo their two early goals and 15 point break when we had all the play in the last until then.
Yeah Batch hasn't quite found his timing since hurting his ankle - but at least he is not scared.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Jackstar is back again on June 09, 2012, 06:14:31 PM
Vickery :chuck :chuck :chuck
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Ruanaidh on June 09, 2012, 06:15:38 PM
Ins: King, Miller, White

Outs: Mini Maric, Vickery, Cotchin (inj Dr Larkins on 3AW said Cotchin may a bone crack just above the elbow).

BTW if Jack's ankle doesn't come up Vickery stays

And I'm being nice there's another 2 or 3 who should be dropped based on todays "efforts"

Who are the other 2-3. Just curious as I missed the game

Ellis see Ruanaidh's post
Dea - that 20 metre squib kick in the 3rd sums it up
Grigg - refuses to go in for a hard ball. See final qtr he needed to attack a contest, stopped and propped = heartbreaker

Also didn't include Foley in my original INS because I reckon he will miss another week
WP what is it with Grigg? There are times to be outside but days like today where you have to smack-in at the contest???? It was like they stuck to a dry day plan no matter what. Freo didn't and that's why they won.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 09, 2012, 06:19:54 PM
WP what is it with Grigg? There are times to be outside but days like today where you have to smack-in at the contest???? It was like they stuck to a dry day plan no matter what. Freo didn't and that's why they won.

Exactly. I understand he is an outside mid but every so often you have to bite the bullet and just attack to try and keep that ball in our F50 yet again today not for the first time this year at a crucial moment in the game Grigg refused to do it
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 09, 2012, 06:20:44 PM
Just got back from the game >:( Today there were too many players poo-scared to put their head over the footy. Over the past couple of weeks I've been intimating that Ellis needs a break etc. The reason being is that he plays scared!  He hangs out at contests and runs forward of play (leaving his man) at every opportunity.......and he would rather paddle the ball than risk taking possession and possibly receiving a bruising tackle. That effort in the pocket was embarrasing! Houli does similarly and would rather kick the ball along the ground than get down and risk a hit. Maric, well he has brought the MFC bruise free style to Richmond and will be dropped as a result.

My outs: Ellis, Maric and Jackson (not an AFL footballer)
My ins: Kingy, Connors and Foley/Arnot.

Vickery is very lucky.

how pathetic is Maric. Ive seen enough of him for good. We should delist him come seasons end.

Jackson. The bloke doesnt justify a response

Out: Ellis, Maric(never to be seen again in a RFC jumper), Vickery, Jackson

In: Gus/Mcguane (Both would be an upgrade on Vickery), Connors, King, White

Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Chuck17 on June 09, 2012, 06:26:26 PM
In: Gus/Mcguane (Both would be an upgrade on Vickery), Connors, King, White

I would rather give games to our draftees even if they arent ready rather than see those names back in the side.  You can add Miller to that list as well.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Ruanaidh on June 09, 2012, 06:28:16 PM
Just got back from the game >:( Today there were too many players poo-scared to put their head over the footy. Over the past couple of weeks I've been intimating that Ellis needs a break etc. The reason being is that he plays scared!  He hangs out at contests and runs forward of play (leaving his man) at every opportunity.......and he would rather paddle the ball than risk taking possession and possibly receiving a bruising tackle. That effort in the pocket was embarrasing! Houli does similarly and would rather kick the ball along the ground than get down and risk a hit. Maric, well he has brought the MFC bruise free style to Richmond and will be dropped as a result.

My outs: Ellis, Maric and Jackson (not an AFL footballer)
My ins: Kingy, Connors and Foley/Arnot.

Vickery is very lucky.

how pathetic is Maric. Ive seen enough of him for good. We should delist him come seasons end.

Jackson. The bloke doesnt justify a response

Out: Ellis, Maric(never to be seen again in a RFC jumper), Vickery, Jackson

In: Gus/Mcguane (Both would be an upgrade on Vickery), Connors, King, White
On reflection I've changed my mind on Vicks. He can go too, its time to bring on the Goose.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: TigerTimeII on June 09, 2012, 06:34:15 PM
Mini maric should never play again and nahas should make way for.connors.... Nahas is too weak
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 09, 2012, 06:36:27 PM
In: Gus/Mcguane (Both would be an upgrade on Vickery), Connors, King, White

I would rather give games to our draftees even if they arent ready rather than see those names back in the side.  You can add Miller to that list as well.

Not until we are completely out of the finals race IMO.

Honestly how can Gus or Mcguane be any worse than Vickery in any game this year

Absolutely hopeless. Im all for giving guys a few chances  before demanding they be dropped but he has done SFA in every game, yet still gets gifted games.

Maric seen enough, USELESS

In wet weather something had to give today and that was Vickery.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Smokey on June 09, 2012, 07:18:24 PM

It was like they stuck to a dry day plan no matter what. Freo didn't and that's why they won.

Exactly what happened today R, nothing more nothing less.  We continually gifted them possession by trying to play dry weather footy (dumb footy in today's conditions).  Hopefully we (collectively, coaches and players) learn a serious and valuable lesson from this.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: MintOnLamb on June 09, 2012, 07:20:40 PM
Mini maric should never play again and nahas should make way for.connors.... Nahas is too weak
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Mini maric out for sure, disagree about Nahas, while everyone was too scared to pick up the ball he was in having a go to get his hands on it. Jack was really good at moving to the wrong spot and crowding play. Once again too much sideways footy. Not enough play on. We look way better when we play on.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: TigerLand on June 09, 2012, 07:49:42 PM
Ins: King, Miller, White

Outs: Mini Maric, Vickery, Cotchin (inj Dr Larkins on 3AW said Cotchin may a bone crack just above the elbow).

BTW if Jack's ankle doesn't come up Vickery stays

And I'm being nice there's another 2 or 3 who should be dropped based on todays "efforts"

Who are the other 2-3. Just curious as I missed the game

Ellis see Ruanaidh's post
Dea - that 20 metre squib kick in the 3rd sums it up
Grigg - refuses to go in for a hard ball. See final qtr he needed to attack a contest, stopped and propped = heartbreaker

Also didn't include Foley in my original INS because I reckon he will miss another week

Lol WP, Grigg would be top 3 in our B&F.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: TigerLand on June 09, 2012, 07:58:44 PM
Our depth is very very poor. We still have a huge clean out to take place.

I'm Jacksons biggest critic, but will be fair and say his game against Hawks and Saints were better than OK. Today was usual Jacko and played like a stake bottle of pee. Our biggest mistake was the re-signing of Jackson. Should never have happened.

Still have huge holes in our best 22. I love Jakey King but he's not the answer long term, he's 28 and will be 29 before round 1 next year. Just think he's too old for our tilt.

Maric just isn't a full time AFL player, his effort last week on Goddard was immense but he's just not there. Melbourne delisted him, you don't find many delisted players that turn it around and cement themselves in a finals best 22 side.

Nahas I just dunno if he's good enough. Does some good things but ge he's too inconsistant. If we are fair dinkum we need to find a genuine dangerous small forward.

We still need another KP forward, and at least 2 crumbing forwards Milne, Zaharakis/Monfries, Betts/Garlatt need a player like that the compliments Jack and another KP forward. Doubt any opposition club thinks, how can we stop Nahas or King. Also need to improve our depth in the midfield. Losing Foley today took us back 4 places on the ladder. Our depth is really ordinary.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 09, 2012, 08:04:19 PM
Pope we didnt lose because Foley was out, we lost because outside of cotch, Tuck and Morris no one wanted to get their hands dirty.

We lost because we went in with Vickery and not White.

Dont blame depth when tackles were virtually non existent today. Thats why we lost

Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 09, 2012, 08:10:56 PM
Mini maric should never play again and nahas should make way for.connors.... Nahas is too weak

Mini skata is rubbish

nahas thinks he is better than he is.  Rarely impacts games.

Need to find some smalls

Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 09, 2012, 11:46:23 PM
Ins: King, Miller, White

Outs: Mini Maric, Vickery, Cotchin (inj Dr Larkins on 3AW said Cotchin may a bone crack just above the elbow).

BTW if Jack's ankle doesn't come up Vickery stays

And I'm being nice there's another 2 or 3 who should be dropped based on todays "efforts"

Who are the other 2-3. Just curious as I missed the gam

Ellis see Ruanaidh's post
Dea - that 20 metre squib kick in the 3rd sums it up
Grigg - refuses to go in for a hard ball. See final qtr he needed to attack a contest, stopped and propped = heartbreaker

Also didn't include Foley in my original INS because I reckon he will miss another week

Dea was far from our worst
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Loui Tufga on June 09, 2012, 11:50:05 PM
Yes, the Dea Haters are out in force again :lol  I urge anyone to watch the replay again Twice, and tell me he should be dropped before 6 or 7 other players!
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: the claw on June 10, 2012, 12:04:32 AM
Yes, the Dea Haters are out in force again :lol  I urge anyone to watch the replay again Twice, and tell me he should be dropped before 6 or 7 other players!
agree thought dea went alright. hes young hes inexperienced he will make mistakes. what do people expect.
he looks better than batchelor atm thats not to say batchelor should be dropped.
they arent out of their depth they are contributing but they will make mistakes as they go.

if fit and they maintain a decent level morris dea and batchelor should be the sml/med defenders for the rest of the yr let em jell into a cohesive unit.
get grimes back persevere with griffiths  down back and rance again let get used to one another and gell.
we may move big ben forward when astbury is up and going but i would just settle ben in for the rest of the yr as well and play astbury as a hit up forward when hes fit.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 10, 2012, 12:06:55 AM
Yes, the Dea Haters are out in force again :lol  I urge anyone to watch the replay again Twice, and tell me he should be dropped before 6 or 7 other players!
agree thought dea went alright. hes young hes inexperienced he will make mistakes. what do people expect.
he looks better than batchelor atm thats not to say batchelor should be dropped.
they arent out of their depth they are contributing but they will make mistakes as they go.

if fit and they maintain a decent level morris dea and batchelor should be the sml/med defenders for the rest of the yr let em jell into a cohesive unit.
get grimes back persevere with griffiths  down back and rance again let get used to one another and gell.
we may move big ben forward when astbury is up and going but i would just settle ben in for the rest of the yr as well and play astbury as a hit up forward when hes fit.

Agree with this. :clapping
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: the claw on June 10, 2012, 12:20:49 AM
Ins: King, Miller, White

Outs: Mini Maric, Vickery, Cotchin (inj Dr Larkins on 3AW said Cotchin may a bone crack just above the elbow).

BTW if Jack's ankle doesn't come up Vickery stays

And I'm being nice there's another 2 or 3 who should be dropped based on todays "efforts"

Who are the other 2-3. Just curious as I missed the game

Ellis see Ruanaidh's post
Dea - that 20 metre squib kick in the 3rd sums it up
Grigg - refuses to go in for a hard ball. See final qtr he needed to attack a contest, stopped and propped = heartbreaker

Also didn't include Foley in my original INS because I reckon he will miss another week

Lol WP, Grigg would be top 3 in our B&F.
whats that got to do with grigg being almost totally outside. he doesnt put his head over the ball too often but he has had a good yr performing a gut running link up role.
do we give out b&fs for well rounded performances if so cotchin will win it every time.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Rodgerramjet on June 10, 2012, 01:38:34 AM
Yes, the Dea Haters are out in force again :lol  I urge anyone to watch the replay again Twice, and tell me he should be dropped before 6 or 7 other players!
agree thought dea went alright. hes young hes inexperienced he will make mistakes. what do people expect.
he looks better than batchelor atm thats not to say batchelor should be dropped.
they arent out of their depth they are contributing but they will make mistakes as they go.

if fit and they maintain a decent level morris dea and batchelor should be the sml/med defenders for the rest of the yr let em jell into a cohesive unit.
get grimes back persevere with griffiths  down back and rance again let get used to one another and gell.
we may move big ben forward when astbury is up and going but i would just settle ben in for the rest of the yr as well and play astbury as a hit up forward when hes fit.

Agree with this. :clapping

Yeap so do I
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Smokey on June 10, 2012, 07:51:13 AM
Pope we didnt lose because Foley was out, we lost because outside of cotch, Tuck and Morris no one wanted to get their hands dirty.

We lost because we went in with Vickery and not White.

Dont blame depth when tackles were virtually non existent today. Thats why we lost

Yep, we were very soft at the ball all day and it stood out against our efforts of the past 8 weeks.  Cotchin stood out because he was almost a lone ranger in doing the blue collar work that we normally associate with Tuck, Foley, Morris etc.  This loss might hurt at the season's end re: making finals but I reckon it was a loss we had to have in order to refocus our team effort.  If we went into next week's game with the same attitude and effort of  yesterday then we would most likely get beaten and a loss to GWS would have a far greater negative impact on our season than losing to Freo.  Hopefully, this loss will allow the coaches to get stuck into the players and make them 'resharpen' their resolve.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 10, 2012, 08:00:49 AM
Pope we didnt lose because Foley was out, we lost because outside of cotch, Tuck and Morris no one wanted to get their hands dirty.

We lost because we went in with Vickery and not White.

Dont blame depth when tackles were virtually non existent today. Thats why we lost


That's exactly what I thought last night Smokey. Now I am very confident we will beat GWS

Still don't think we will make finals.

With yesterday's attitude we will surely drop one of those games against Nought or Buldogs


Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Penelope on June 10, 2012, 08:36:52 AM
King will be back. We missed his pressure, hardness and workrate yesterday. I really think ellis needs time at a lower level to get hold of the ball and get his confidence up, although i dont think there will be too many unforced changes besides mini maric
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Jackstar is back again on June 10, 2012, 08:38:49 AM
Vickery out
Any orange witches hat in
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Coach on June 10, 2012, 01:13:50 PM
Vickery out
Any orange witches hat in

Not sure BrownE is the man to replace him.




;D
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: dwaino on June 10, 2012, 01:30:14 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Jackstar is back again on June 10, 2012, 01:38:12 PM
Vickery out
Any orange witches hat in

Not sure BrownE is the man to replace him.




;D

No but Gus might be
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: TigerTimeII on June 10, 2012, 01:54:18 PM
lmao they wont drop TV for gus

tools
 maybe white can ruck he is in whit hot form lol
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Jackstar is back again on June 10, 2012, 02:55:37 PM
lmao they wont drop TV for gus

tools
 maybe white can ruck he is in whit hot form lol

why are we tools ?
You obviously have trouble viewing the game
He has been hopeless
Has as much impact as fairy floss. :banghead
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 10, 2012, 03:21:41 PM
lmao they wont drop TV for gus

tools
 maybe white can ruck he is in whit hot form lol

why are we tools ?
You obviously have trouble viewing the game
He has been hopeless
Has as much impact as fairy floss. :banghead

if i were a betting man TV would be 1.20 to get dropped this week.

Dimma would hate not only his performance but that vision.

That alone is enough to get dropped

I cant fathom how he is getting a game, maybe cause of his old man
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Jackstar is back again on June 10, 2012, 03:47:12 PM
All we need yesterday were some strong bodies inside 50
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: one-eyed on June 10, 2012, 03:51:06 PM
Hard to make changes when your ressies get flogged by almost 13 goals. Our depth or rather lack of it especially in decent smalls/mids is being tested  :P
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 10, 2012, 03:52:54 PM
Ins: King, Miller, White

Outs: Mini Maric, Vickery, Cotchin (inj Dr Larkins on 3AW said Cotchin may a bone crack just above the elbow).

BTW if Jack's ankle doesn't come up Vickery stays

And I'm being nice there's another 2 or 3 who should be dropped based on todays "efforts"

Who are the other 2-3. Just curious as I missed the game

Ellis see Ruanaidh's post
Dea - that 20 metre squib kick in the 3rd sums it up
Grigg - refuses to go in for a hard ball. See final qtr he needed to attack a contest, stopped and propped = heartbreaker

Also didn't include Foley in my original INS because I reckon he will miss another week

Lol WP, Grigg would be top 3 in our B&F.

So?

Not disputing that but when the game is on the line; you're team has the momentum and all you need to do is attack the contest to bottle the ball up to get ball up and you refuse to do it because you stop and do NOTHING and Freo clear the ball and score then you deserve to be punished.

Defining moment and you cost your team like that where you are currently placed in B&F voting means nothing. It looked soft and guess what it was soft. To borrow WAT's mantra there's NO EXCUSE  :banghead :banghead but if you think it's OK then good for you
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: TigerLand on June 10, 2012, 03:58:30 PM

So?

Not disputing that but when the game is on the line; you're team has the momentum and all you need to do is attack the contest to bottle the ball up to get ball up and you refuse to do it because you stop and do NOTHING and Freo clear the ball and score then you deserve to be punished.

Defining moment and you cost your team like that where you are currently placed in B&F voting means nothing. It looked soft and guess what it was soft. To borrow WAT's mantra there's NO EXCUSE  :banghead :banghead but if you think it's OK then good for you

Not condoning his mistakes, but if we are setting a standard for dropping players for mistakes you can drop the whole side. Just stinks of scape-goatness. If you drop Grigg you can drop 15 blokes before him.

Lids played a worse game then Grigg and didn't see him go in for a hard ball all day? Dropped?

Poor message dropping a guy after a great start to the year and has 1 poor game. Besides, replacing him with anyone from the Coburg line up is a waste of time.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: WilliamPowell on June 10, 2012, 04:12:51 PM

So?

Not disputing that but when the game is on the line; you're team has the momentum and all you need to do is attack the contest to bottle the ball up to get ball up and you refuse to do it because you stop and do NOTHING and Freo clear the ball and score then you deserve to be punished.

Defining moment and you cost your team like that where you are currently placed in B&F voting means nothing. It looked soft and guess what it was soft. To borrow WAT's mantra there's NO EXCUSE  :banghead :banghead but if you think it's OK then good for you

Not condoning his mistakes, but if we are setting a standard for dropping players for mistakes you can drop the whole side. Just stinks of scape-goatness. If you drop Grigg you can drop 15 blokes before him.

Lids played a worse game then Grigg and didn't see him go in for a hard ball all day? Dropped?

Poor message dropping a guy after a great start to the year and has 1 poor game. Besides, replacing him with anyone from the Coburg line up is a waste of time.

Point is it isn't the first time this season he has done it. Happens almost weekly but hey when you are winning it doesn't matter I suppose.

And are you seriously telling me Lids didn't go in for one hard ball yesterday? Now that's funny

But I do agree with you re Coburg after today outside Matt White there isn't much there in the form of replacements
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: the claw on June 10, 2012, 04:43:49 PM
injuries permitting id go like this. did this on another board.

b/ morris - rance - newman
hb/ dea - griffiths - batchelor.
c/ grigg - tuck - deledio
hf ohanlon - post - edwards
f/ i maric - riewoldt - king
r/ graham - cotchin - foley.
int/ martin - ellis - a maric - conca/jackson

ins post - foley - king - graham
outs houli - vickery - nahas - jackson.

graham for vickery has to be a better ruck option play ivan in a pocket he did perform this role at adelaide at times. best of both worlds ivan gets a break of sorts we reward grahams good form and we drop a badly out of form player.

drop nahas and keep ohanlon just have to play this kid. in nahas place go tall with a permanent marking player in post. the postman gives us flexability as well.

drop houli soft insipid performances should not be tolerated at any time. keep a maric give him a block of 4 games he must think everytime he makes a mistake hes gone give him a chance to gell in. bring in king for houli at the very least king will tackle and commit his body.

finally foley for jackson chalk and cheese in performance and quality.

i reckon newman batchelor and conca a real lucky if we had a agile tall defender ie grimes moore to come in one of these would be in the gun.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Yeahright on June 10, 2012, 04:55:55 PM
Rekon Jackson's a chance for suspension
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on June 10, 2012, 05:25:27 PM
Yes, the Dea Haters are out in force again :lol  I urge anyone to watch the replay again Twice, and tell me he should be dropped before 6 or 7 other players!
early in the season I was asking why dea was so highly valued by the club because I was yet to see anything that warranted such belief in a newby.
But I've seen enough to think he's gonna be ok.
On Saturday he was pretty good. What I like most about him is that he rarely panics for such a young player. That and his marking ability is something to build on.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: 10 FLAGS on June 10, 2012, 06:41:39 PM
Dea wasnt the worse and has shown good improvement so far. For me Id like to see Todd Elton get a game instead of Vickery.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Bengal on June 10, 2012, 07:09:28 PM
injuries permitting id go like this. did this on another board.

b/ morris - rance - newman
hb/ dea - griffiths - batchelor.
c/ grigg - tuck - deledio
hf ohanlon - post - edwards
f/ i maric - riewoldt - king
r/ graham - cotchin - foley.
int/ martin - ellis - a maric - conca/jackson

ins post - foley - king - graham
outs houli - vickery - nahas - jackson.

graham for vickery has to be a better ruck option play ivan in a pocket he did perform this role at adelaide at times. best of both worlds ivan gets a break of sorts we reward grahams good form and we drop a badly out of form player.

drop nahas and keep ohanlon just have to play this kid. in nahas place go tall with a permanent marking player in post. the postman gives us flexability as well.

drop houli soft insipid performances should not be tolerated at any time. keep a maric give him a block of 4 games he must think everytime he makes a mistake hes gone give him a chance to gell in. bring in king for houli at the very least king will tackle and commit his body.

finally foley for jackson chalk and cheese in performance and quality.

i reckon newman batchelor and conca a real lucky if we had a agile tall defender ie grimes moore to come in one of these would be in the gun.

Amazed you dont want to drop Edwards, that must be a 1st..  Post wont play forward in front of Vickery..  Post doesnt play to the structures well enough yet and lacks a yard of pace on Vickery..

There will be minimal changes this week.. Push up back in for A. Maric and if Jacko is outed. which i dont think he will, but i'd bring in Arnot for him as the sub..  O'Hanlon did ok and should keep his spot.

Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Jackstar is back again on June 10, 2012, 08:28:39 PM
Jack was seen today.cant walk so he won't play
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Phil Mrakov on June 10, 2012, 08:40:17 PM
If thats the case don't know why they kept playing him after he got injured.

Amateur hour down at the RFC.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Ruanaidh on June 10, 2012, 08:44:03 PM
If thats the case don't know why they kept playing him after he got injured.

Amateur hour down at the RFC.
I am amazed they didn't change that forward line around and sub Jack off?????
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Phil Mrakov on June 10, 2012, 08:47:38 PM
If thats the case don't know why they kept playing him after he got injured.

Amateur hour down at the RFC.
I am amazed they didn't change that forward line around and sub Jack off?????

Agree.. He had zero impact and now hes farrkd for a few weeks you would think.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Gigantor on June 10, 2012, 08:48:11 PM
jack the other one i think might not play is cotch,and maybe they will give nathan another week too..what you reckon?
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: rogerd3 on June 10, 2012, 09:15:03 PM
old shady sheedy. :lol
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: eliminator on June 11, 2012, 07:00:50 AM
OUT: Vickery Ellis, Minni Maric and Jackson
IN: King, Connors, Post and Foley
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: WA Tiger on June 11, 2012, 09:51:34 AM
Some of you might need to watch the replay as I am continually told to do regarding Edwards. Jackson played most of his game with his head over the ball, on the ground in and under and getting involved in the hard contests which is more than some of his team mates did.

He has played well for the last 3 weeks now!

STOP CALLING FOR HIS HEAD EVERY BLOODY GAME, CREDIT WHERE IT IS DUE FFS!!!!!
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: WA Tiger on June 11, 2012, 09:57:00 AM
Maybe White for mini Maric and who for King I don't know, but it will probably just be Maric for King unless injuries come up.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 11, 2012, 11:55:10 AM
Some of you might need to watch the replay as I am continually told to do regarding Edwards. Jackson played most of his game with his head over the ball, on the ground in and under and getting involved in the hard contests which is more than some of his team mates did.

He has played well for the last 3 weeks now!

STOP CALLING FOR HIS HEAD EVERY BLOODY GAME, CREDIT WHERE IT IS DUE FFS!!!!!

Ya.
Elite  ::)
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: torch on June 11, 2012, 12:13:53 PM
OUT:

Reiwoldt
Jackson
Dea

IN:

Elton
King
White

Play White as a defender!

Move Griffiths up forward with Elton!
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 11, 2012, 12:30:47 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Muscles on June 11, 2012, 12:37:15 PM
Just read an article on AFL.com where Cotch said he's fine.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: eliminator on June 11, 2012, 01:09:32 PM
Jackson's game against the Dockers was average at best. Jackson was certainly not in the best. No one is questioning his courage it is what he does with the ball that is his underdoing
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Francois Jackson on June 11, 2012, 03:27:27 PM
Some of you might need to watch the replay as I am continually told to do regarding Edwards. Jackson played most of his game with his head over the ball, on the ground in and under and getting involved in the hard contests which is more than some of his team mates did.

He has played well for the last 3 weeks now!

STOP CALLING FOR HIS HEAD EVERY BLOODY GAME, CREDIT WHERE IT IS DUE FFS!!!!!

bloke dont need to watch the replay ive watched this bloke for years. He is rubbish

The effort he produced against freo was his usual slow stop thinking self.

You have to ask yourself what is his role? Tagger well his no good at that.

How can we talk about finals when w have A grade spuds like this bloke occupying spots in the best 22. You will know we arrived when there is no room for his type in our best 22.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: one-eyed on June 11, 2012, 04:00:27 PM
Footy Barometer - Round 12

    From: Herald Sun
    June 11, 2012 2:01PM



RICHMOND

ON THE BLOCK: Oh dear. Not the Tigers day. Their effort was strong and they surged inside 50 58 times – 15 more than Fremantle – but couldn’t burst the dam wall that is the purple machine under Ross Lyon. So who comes out? Riewoldt will probably miss with ligament damage in his ankle, Foley is in doubt while debutant Brett O’Hanlon could be sent back to the VFL.

ON THE CUSP: Jake King was sorely missed on Saturday, he’ll come straight back in. Speedster Matt White remains a chance of making the trip to face GWS, but there wasn’t much other joy at Coburg, which was pounded by Bendigo in Shepparton. Great to see Luke McGuane make a quick return from what was first believed to be a bad knee injury. And even better to see forgotten defender Kelvin Moore (hip) slip quietly back into competitive footy. Moore returned via the VFL development league for his first hit out this year.

SAM LANDSBERGER’S FORECAST: The Tiger bandwagon hit a roadblock on Saturday and it’s no wonder – you can’t go hooning around AFL land at 150km/hr like that. For all their hard work this year Richmond is stuck in 11th but finally some relief in the draw is ahead. It’s GWS, Melbourne, Gold Coast and a bye in the next five weeks. Tick, tick, tick and then hopefully it’s time to go boom.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/supercoach-news/footy-barometer-round-12/story-fncufbo5-1226391242774
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 11, 2012, 08:27:58 PM
OUT:

Reiwoldt
Jackson
Dea

IN:

Elton
King
White

Play White as a defender!

Move Griffiths up forward with Elton!

What!!!!

Dea aint going nowhere. Not changing the defence around has been solid for most of the year, let the kids continue to play together and gel.
Play White as a defender????? Pace off the back line or what reasoning is behind that? Morris and Houli can do that. May as well play Nahas in the ruck.

If White comes in maybe as the sub for some pace late on but that is assuming that King does not play and Mini Maric gets dropped. How many smalls do we need??????
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Coach on June 11, 2012, 08:46:34 PM
Bring Greg White in but pi.ss 'The Prodigy' off to the reserves. LMAO @ people saying his basic tackle on Goddard was the turning point in his career. Keep the Melbourne rejects in the twos and reward Greg. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on June 11, 2012, 08:55:52 PM
Yep, Greg White as the sub this week. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: YellowandBlackBlood on June 11, 2012, 09:31:28 PM
Yeah, Greg deserves a run. ;D
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on June 11, 2012, 10:36:03 PM
OUT:

Reiwoldt
Jackson
Dea

IN:

Elton
King
White

How dare you  >:(

Deasgraceful
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: one-eyed on June 12, 2012, 03:51:36 PM
Richmond - In the Mix

Full-forward Jack Riewoldt will be scrutinised throughout the week to see if he comes up from the strained ankle ligament he incurred early in the loss to Fremantle at the weekend. Midfielder Nathan Foley will also scrutinised after missing the Fremantle clash with a bruised heel.  Small forward Jake King is available after serving a one-week suspension for tripping. Midfielder Matt White is a chance to come in after being the Coburg Tigers' best player in their loss to Bendigo at the weekend. Matt Dea appears to have settled at half-back and should keep his spot. Tall forward Brett O'Hanlon would be unlucky if he were to be dropped after performing creditably in his debut against Fremantle. Tall defender Jake Batchelor was subdued against Fremantle and could be due for a rest.
-Paul Daffey

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/138347/default.aspx
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Judge Roughneck on June 12, 2012, 03:58:04 PM
Hey ease up on torch.

Hes clearly deamented
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: gerkin greg on June 13, 2012, 09:15:06 AM
gee was Batch a bit down  :shh
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: wayne on June 13, 2012, 09:54:06 AM
It says subdued, not subbed
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: gerkin greg on June 13, 2012, 10:01:02 AM
nice one gerks  :wallywink

thanks wayne  ;D
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: wayne on June 13, 2012, 10:04:51 AM
nice one gerks  :wallywink

thanks wayne  ;D

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Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: Penelope on June 13, 2012, 10:17:31 AM
 :lol
nice edit :thumbsup
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: wayne on June 13, 2012, 10:21:34 AM
gee was Batch a bit down  :shh

lol
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: one-eyed on June 13, 2012, 11:17:15 PM
The Footy Show had six ins in a squad of 28. In: Graham, Miller, King, Connors, Foley & White. No outs and Jack was named.
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: eliminator on June 14, 2012, 05:37:13 PM
Hardwick today said pretty confident Jack will play
Title: Re: Changes For Next Week
Post by: the claw on June 14, 2012, 07:16:12 PM
injuries permitting id go like this. did this on another board.

b/ morris - rance - newman
hb/ dea - griffiths - batchelor.
c/ grigg - tuck - deledio
hf ohanlon - post - edwards
f/ i maric - riewoldt - king
r/ graham - cotchin - foley.
int/ martin - ellis - a maric - conca/jackson

ins post - foley - king - graham
outs houli - vickery - nahas - jackson.

graham for vickery has to be a better ruck option play ivan in a pocket he did perform this role at adelaide at times. best of both worlds ivan gets a break of sorts we reward grahams good form and we drop a badly out of form player.

drop nahas and keep ohanlon just have to play this kid. in nahas place go tall with a permanent marking player in post. the postman gives us flexability as well.

drop houli soft insipid performances should not be tolerated at any time. keep a maric give him a block of 4 games he must think everytime he makes a mistake hes gone give him a chance to gell in. bring in king for houli at the very least king will tackle and commit his body.

finally foley for jackson chalk and cheese in performance and quality.

i reckon newman batchelor and conca a real lucky if we had a agile tall defender ie grimes moore to come in one of these would be in the gun.

Amazed you dont want to drop Edwards, that must be a 1st..  Post wont play forward in front of Vickery..  Post doesnt play to the structures well enough yet and lacks a yard of pace on Vickery..

There will be minimal changes this week.. Push up back in for A. Maric and if Jacko is outed. which i dont think he will, but i'd bring in Arnot for him as the sub..  O'Hanlon did ok and should keep his spot.
have acknowledged edwards has had a decent 4 weeks in a row. gotta give credit where its due.  thats not to say i think edwardss is a good player. seen enough to quite frankly not rate him.

if he can gather 18 possesions use em well and kick two goals every week in the forward line i will gladly continue to pick him.

with most of our older players i have always argued they revert to type. they offer up some good games in a row at a level they cant maintain.then they   dramatically drop away back to a sub standard level. we have seen this already lots of times in edwards 6 yr career. we have seen it with so many over the yrs.

mate atm i would play my granny in front of vickery  this week. i didnt pick post for vickery if you took the time to read you would have seen that.

 the player i would like to see  take vickerys role forward is big ivan as the forward/ruck.  just lessening his work load and giving him a break of sorts.
post comes in as an extra tall forward as a  genuine kpf who can take a grab.

 graham comes in as first ruck against a very young and inexperienced  gws ruck division. in effect this week having big ivan perform vickerys role,  and graham ivans.

way i see it.  big angus gets some reward for being among our best at coburg for weeks on end. surely we have to do this regardless of how we rate players.
ivan gets a lighter week and  and can be called upon if angus gets towelled up.
vickery gets the arse who can argue he shouldt be dropped on form.
post comes in and gives us a needed genuine kpf option to help out jack. if he does enough perhaps jack can have a light week as well. posts one game this yr gave more than vickery has given in any game.
i see nothing but wins by doing this.

finally why drop a maric? when are we going to give him a block of games and say mate just play, your position its safe for a couple of weeks. bloody hell we do it with every other player no wonder this bloke struggles in one week out the next sub one week out the next hes played some blinders at coburg give him a decent go and stop knocking any confidence he may have out of him. he players a role where he will stink or shine on any given day.

i for one am adamant that just vickery and riewoldt one of whom is  the second ruckman is a tall forward short. even if vickery played i would want another tall  ie post to come into the side.