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Title: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: mightytiges on September 06, 2009, 12:17:25 AM
I didn't see it but a low act if he did it.

(http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq207/richskee/juddeye.jpg)

We won't have to worry about him in round 1 either if found guilty.
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: the_boy_jake on September 06, 2009, 08:26:47 AM
I didn't see it but a low act if he did it.

(http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq207/richskee/juddeye.jpg)

We won't have to worry about him in round 1 either if found guilty.


If he gets suspended does it affect either this years or next years Brownlow eligibility?
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 06, 2009, 08:32:11 AM
I didn't see it but a low act if he did it.

(http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq207/richskee/juddeye.jpg)

We won't have to worry about him in round 1 either if found guilty.


If he gets suspended does it affect either this years or next years Brownlow eligibility?
this year it doesn't affect the brownlow but next year if found guilty it does I think. We spoke of that exact thing last night. Hope he gets rubbed out we need all the help we can get. It's chris Judd though teachers pet nothing will come of it
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: mightytiges on September 06, 2009, 04:43:52 PM

If he gets suspended does it affect either this years or next years Brownlow eligibility?
this year it doesn't affect the brownlow but next year if found guilty it does I think. We spoke of that exact thing last night. Hope he gets rubbed out we need all the help we can get. It's chris Judd though teachers pet nothing will come of it
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I would've thought it affects this year's Brownlow as the report was for a game in 2009. The suspension however is carries over to the first how many games of the 2010 H/A season.
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: cub on September 06, 2009, 05:56:50 PM
I didn't see it but a low act if he did it.

(http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq207/richskee/juddeye.jpg)

We won't have to worry about him in round 1 either if found guilty.


If he gets suspended does it affect either this years or next years Brownlow eligibility?
It's chris Judd though teachers pet nothing will come of it

We agree on that one! Judd could get away with murder. Hate the Pri|( - See ya Carltank
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: mightytiges on September 06, 2009, 07:09:24 PM
Judd got off once before (re: Brad Scott IIRC)

His excuse this time around is he was aiming for a pressure point behind the ear. The hands aren't near the ear in that photo  ???
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: Jackstar is back on September 06, 2009, 07:15:07 PM
Should get rubbed out, case against will be , where is the ball ??
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: the_boy_jake on September 06, 2009, 07:17:37 PM
Judd got off once before (re: Brad Scott IIRC)

His excuse this time around is he was aiming for a pressure point behind the ear. The hands aren't near the ear in that photo  ???

WTF? A pressure point behind the ear isn't an acceptable excuse. Is he into acupuncture?

I'd have to see the video but from that still his only line of defence would be that he wasn't looking at Rischitelli and it was an accident....
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: Ramps on September 06, 2009, 07:24:12 PM
should get 4 weeks. disgraceful act.
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: TigerLand on September 06, 2009, 07:47:54 PM
Sad day a hip and shoulder that brushes the head gets 2 weeks yet 3rd time eye gouging offender can walk away with "ohh i was brushing the hair off his face, i'm crhis judd" crap.

He's done it to Brad Scott
and he did it to Campbell Brown.
Now Ricshitelli

Clear as day.

Absolute 1 week minimum, you can't eye gouge in any living sport.. not even UFC...

Dear o dear.
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 06, 2009, 09:28:59 PM
The AFL is fighting for credibility for all tribunal cases.
We have seen this over the last few weeks.
I can only hope the hard line taken will continue with a minimum of a three week suspension to the football mercenary. Anything less or an acquittal due to a lack of evidence will be tantamount to corruption.

I'd like to see whether trial by media takes place this week. I wonder whether Mike and the gang at the Hun crucify him or accept his b/s story about finding pressure points. ::)
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 06, 2009, 10:54:40 PM

If he gets suspended does it affect either this years or next years Brownlow eligibility?
this year it doesn't affect the brownlow but next year if found guilty it does I think. We spoke of that exact thing last night. Hope he gets rubbed out we need all the help we can get. It's chris Judd though teachers pet nothing will come of it
I would've thought it affects this year's Brownlow as the report was for a game in 2009. The suspension however is carries over to the first how many games of the 2010 H/A season.
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as i said i cant actually be sure to be honest.

i have checked other forums and no one really knows either.

If its true and it does count in winning this years final series, the scumbag will get off regardless

Andy D and his stuffwit Sidekick Anderson would not want another McKernan/Grant episode so pretty boy Judd will get probably get off
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: mightytiges on September 06, 2009, 11:15:00 PM

If he gets suspended does it affect either this years or next years Brownlow eligibility?
this year it doesn't affect the brownlow but next year if found guilty it does I think. We spoke of that exact thing last night. Hope he gets rubbed out we need all the help we can get. It's chris Judd though teachers pet nothing will come of it
I would've thought it affects this year's Brownlow as the report was for a game in 2009. The suspension however is carries over to the first how many games of the 2010 H/A season.

as i said i cant actually be sure to be honest.

i have checked other forums and no one really knows either.

If its true and it does count in winning this years final series, the scumbag will get off regardless

Andy D and his effwit Sidekick Anderson would not want another McKernan/Grant episode so pretty boy Judd will get probably get off
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It won't be a surprise if they let Judd off. They've done it before  ::).

Apparently this alleged "pressure point" is in front of the ear near the temple not behind it. When interviewed about the incident I thought Judd said behind the ear. In any case even admitting going for a pressure point is a low act. You're out there to play footy within the rules; you're not out there to do something that supposedly induces unconsciousness if held long enough while an opponent is on the bottom of a pack. Footy isn't a street fight  ::).
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: Tigermonk on September 07, 2009, 09:29:44 AM
Judd is a deliberate act, eye gouge caught on camera with fingers in the eyes
Punish him 3 weeks down to 2 weeks
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: wayne on September 07, 2009, 09:50:43 AM
They're trying to be super professional the Blues.

Of all the people to make them a laughing stock, YET AGAIN, it's captain fantastic Chris Judd  :rollin
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: wayne on September 07, 2009, 09:56:01 AM
I went to have a look at Talking Carlton for a laugh and it's in lock down!!  :lol
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: mightytiges on September 07, 2009, 01:38:33 PM
There is apparently a pressure point behind the ear called dokko although I reckon Judd is just using it as an excuse to avoid an eye gouging charge.

http://www.pressurepointkarate.com/points/dokko.htm  :-X
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: one-eyed on September 07, 2009, 02:28:33 PM
Here's the video of the incident:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSd3YUxdp-U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSd3YUxdp-U)
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: the_boy_jake on September 07, 2009, 02:41:44 PM
Having seen that it doesnt matter what he was trying to do. Looks as if a finger touched the eye and its not on no matter what he was trying to do. How cowardly. This is what needs to be removed from the game. I hope he gets 4 matches.

When do we find out if the MRP has charged him?
Title: Judd cops 3 weeks
Post by: one-eyed on September 07, 2009, 02:42:19 PM
Judd got 3 weeks (2 weeks with an early plea) from the MRP

MRP said it was "unreasonable and unwarranted contact to the face"
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: wayne on September 07, 2009, 02:43:42 PM
No attempted murder charge??  :rollin
Title: Re: Judd cops 3 weeks
Post by: Tigermonk on September 07, 2009, 04:04:36 PM
Judd got 3 weeks (2 weeks with an early plea) from the MRP

MRP said it was "unreasonable and unwarranted contact to the face"

exactly what l said he would get  ;D
he can still win the Brownlow
Title: Re: Judd cops 3 weeks
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 07, 2009, 04:25:58 PM
Judd got 3 weeks (2 weeks with an early plea) from the MRP

MRP said it was "unreasonable and unwarranted contact to the face"

exactly what l said he would get  ;D
he can still win the Brownlow

yep, he sure can :thumbsup and is a good chance too.

has it ever happened before, a player winning it after being rubbed out from a hit in the finals.
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: one-eyed on September 07, 2009, 04:36:07 PM
Here's the actual report:

Chris Judd, Carlton, has been charged with a Level Three misconduct offence in that he made unreasonable and unnecessary contact to the face of Michael Rischitelli, Brisbane Lions, during the second quarter of the Second Elimination Final between Carlton and the Brisbane Lions, played at the Gabba on Saturday September 5, 2009.
 
In summary, he can accept a two-match sanction with an early plea.
 
The incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), low impact (one point) and high contact (two points). This is a total of six activation points, resulting in a classification of a Level Three offence, drawing 325 demerit points and a three-match sanction. He has no existing good or bad record. An early plea reduces the sanction by 25 per cent to 243.75 points and a two-match sanction.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/84340/default.aspx
Title: Re: Judd cops 3 weeks
Post by: Tigermonk on September 07, 2009, 05:57:44 PM
Judd got 3 weeks (2 weeks with an early plea) from the MRP

MRP said it was "unreasonable and unwarranted contact to the face"

exactly what l said he would get  ;D
he can still win the Brownlow

yep, he sure can :thumbsup and is a good chance too.

has it ever happened before, a player winning it after being rubbed out from a hit in the finals.

Not sure, l can only remember McKernan winning and not getting it
wouldnot suprise me if Judd won the brownlow or Dane Swan, Goodes, Black,
Something tells me Goodes or Swan 
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: Jacosh on September 07, 2009, 06:00:11 PM
Please excuse my language (edit if you need to admin)
That is stuffing pee poor.
Head high contant while attempting a bump which is is the laws of the game gets a bigger penalty than one of the most cowardly gutless things anyone can do.
I used to have respect for Judd as a player (as much as i hated him playing for carlscum).  now i wouldnt pee on him if he was on fire. How could he show his face in public after doing that.
Infact i think its that low he should loose his brownlow medal for it.
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: mightytiges on September 07, 2009, 07:13:39 PM
The MRP having a bit each way. They couldn't let him off but if they went for a more serious charge I guess it could be challenged more easily.

As for the Brownlow I've got a feeling a Saint will win it - Dal Santo or Montagna. Daniel you were right - even if found guilty it doesn't effect Judd's Brownlow chances as the Brownlow only counts for the H/A season.
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 07, 2009, 08:08:52 PM
McKernan missed the rising star in 1994 for a tripping offence against the Weagles and the Brownlow in 1996 for an offence committed against the Cats in round 6 in the year Voss tied with Hird.
Chris Grant in round 7 1997 was suspended for a hit on Nick Holland and subsequently missed the Brownlow also in the first year Harvey won.

I for one am pleased he has been suspended. I thought four weeks would have been more of an appropriate punishment given his priors on Campbell Brown although he wasn't suspended then. I hope the suspension is not being served in the pre season comp but in next years Home and Away season. Low act to be honest.
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: mightytiges on September 07, 2009, 09:29:13 PM
I hope the suspension is not being served in the pre season comp but in next years Home and Away season. Low act to be honest.
I could be wrong but didn't they change the rule so carry-over suspensions have to served in the H/A season?

Judd will miss round 1 against us if we keep the season opener.
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 07, 2009, 09:51:41 PM
I hope the suspension is not being served in the pre season comp but in next years Home and Away season. Low act to be honest.
I could be wrong but didn't they change the rule so carry-over suspensions have to served in the H/A season?

Judd will miss round 1 against us if we keep the season opener.

Apparently you can only serve time in the pre season if you commit the offence in the pre season.

Pretty sure they've stopped it to prevent players pulling an Alistair Lynch and losing the plot in the GF only to serve time in the Nab Cup.
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: mightytiges on September 07, 2009, 11:14:25 PM
I hope the suspension is not being served in the pre season comp but in next years Home and Away season. Low act to be honest.
I could be wrong but didn't they change the rule so carry-over suspensions have to served in the H/A season?

Judd will miss round 1 against us if we keep the season opener.

Apparently you can only serve time in the pre season if you commit the offence in the pre season.

Pretty sure they've stopped it to prevent players pulling an Alistair Lynch and losing the plot in the GF only to serve time in the Nab Cup.
Ta daniel. That's how roughly I understood it. Not just for GFs where there's extra weighting added to any suspension but as you say to stop players using the preseason comp the following year to serve out their sentence.
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2009, 03:35:53 PM
Judd is challenging the charge

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/84386/default.aspx
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2009, 05:41:20 PM
Carlton are trying to downgrade the charge from low impact to insufficient.

Judd has told the tribunal he wasn't going for a pressure point and his interview at the airport where he said he was was just an attempt to make light of the whole situation  :whistle.
Title: Judd found guilty
Post by: one-eyed on September 08, 2009, 06:27:09 PM
Judd found GUILTY!

Carlton trying now to get the suspension reduced.
Title: Re: Judd found guilty
Post by: mightytiges on September 08, 2009, 08:00:30 PM
Judd found GUILTY!
and misses the first 3 rounds of next season  :thumbsup

Serves him right for being dopey and contesting it and then trying to make out he was 'under the weather' when he spoke to the press about pressure points  :wallywink.

 
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 08, 2009, 08:20:31 PM
hahahahahahahahahaha

what a great thing to read at the end of the day.

ooh juddy you dont look so good now do you pal. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 08, 2009, 08:47:13 PM
Judd has told the tribunal he wasn't going for a pressure point and his interview at the airport where he said he was was just an attempt to make light of the whole situation  :whistle.

Because he had only had half an hours sleep before boarding his flight

Pluhzeeeeeeee give me a break

Got what you deserved Judd for being:

1/ an idiot
2/ trying to be funny when you are clearly not
3/ what one can only describe as a hypocrite - takes the high moral ground when he wants to and then pulls a stunt like this and thinks he should be excused for it.
4/ being an IDIOT
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: one-eyed on September 09, 2009, 03:34:02 PM
CARLTON has announced it will appeal captain Chris Judd's three-week suspension for misconduct in making unnecessary contact to the face of Brisbane Lion Michael Rischitelli.

The appeals board will hear the case at 5.30pm on Thursday evening.

The Blues have appealed on the basis that the decision was so unreasonable that no Tribunal acting reasonably could have come to that decision having regard to the evidence before it, the classification of the offence was manifestly excessive and the sanction imposed was manifestly excessive.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/84457/default.aspx
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: mightytiges on September 10, 2009, 04:20:59 PM
Judd has told the tribunal he wasn't going for a pressure point and his interview at the airport where he said he was was just an attempt to make light of the whole situation  :whistle.

Because he had only had half an hours sleep before boarding his flight

Pluhzeeeeeeee give me a break

Got what you deserved Judd for being:

1/ an idiot
2/ trying to be funny when you are clearly not
3/ what one can only describe as a hypocrite - takes the high moral ground when he wants to and then pulls a stunt like this and thinks he should be excused for it.
4/ being an IDIOT
All the above WP lol :thumbsup

He should get another week for wasting everyone's time appealing  ::).
Title: Judd's appeal fails
Post by: one-eyed on September 10, 2009, 07:06:28 PM
3aw said Judd's appeal has failed. So the 3 weeks stands.

Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: mightytiges on September 10, 2009, 10:56:43 PM
Judd still thinks it's all a joke. Saying he learnt about pressure points from Steven Segal movies when interviewed after the hearing tonight  :wallywink.
Title: Re: Judd eye-gouging Rischitelli?
Post by: julzqld on September 17, 2009, 09:55:12 AM
How does that make it right? :wallywink