One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Hellenic Tiger on September 20, 2009, 08:27:20 PM
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For me its Geelong.
I think they are pound for pound a better side.
They play a better style of footy and just like us in 1973 winning at all costs after the pain and heartbreak of 1972 they will go one better this year. They are playing the better footy and the Saints have not been the same since they lost their unbeaten record a week after they unnecessarily rested 8 of their players against Hawthorn. Geelong seem to be playing better footy too coinciding with the return from injury of some of their stars.
Furthermore I don't like the Saints and the majority of Saint fans that much. Making out like its their destiny and God given right and that we are a crap club and regularly reminding you in the last few years is enough to make me want to prey for a Cats win.
Have people who support them got short memories or what? Considering they have won a million wooden spoons yeah right. 4 in a row as recently in the 80's.
I would love to see them fail just makes going through our lean period just that tiny bit easier.
I would also think the prospect of Milne winning a Premiership Medallion :chuck
Riewoldt also seems to get an easy ride from the umps too and although influential as he was on Friday he is pronr to fall to the ground very easily on the slightest body contact. Possibly a bi product of Luke McGuane rag dolling him last year. I would love to see him have a sook like he did up in Brisbane all those years ago. :lol
For me its Go Cats
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The Saints supporters have been waiting a long time for a flag.
It's the Saints for me.
:cheers
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Cats. I'd like to see a high scoring but close GF but they generally don't happen anyway and with the Saints involved it will just not be a chance at all.
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I think Geelong, but now the skunks are out I really dont care! :cheers
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I don't really care as the best two teams have made it to the Granny and saved us from a fate worse than death lol. Hopefully it's a good game. I've now swung to thinking Geelong will win it for the reasons Tucky has said - they are the form side of the finals and they have revenge as motivation after last year. On the other hand I guess if the Saints win it then both clubs give us hope in breaking a long drought :-\.
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I think Geelong, but now the skunks are out I really dont care! :cheers
Likewise :thumbsup
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It's the Cats for mine, simply because I cannot stand St Kilda.
As I said in another thread I have absolutely no respect for them as a club and in particular their foul mouthed fans who hurled abuse at Ma Powell for no other reason than she was old and not very mobile.
So if next Saturday means that those same people who abused her have to suffer some more fan-bloody-tastic. :clapping :clapping
Go Cats ;D
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as malcolm blight said once"i couldnt give a flying toss bag" who wins.althought hearing about what happened to ma Powell is quite disturbing.
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as malcolm blight said once"i couldnt give a flying toss bag" who wins.althought hearing about what happened to ma Powell is quite disturbing.
I don't think the situation was helped by the fact Richmond won that day, obviously set their ferals off
I wont repeat it because the swear filter would go into meltdown but I remember she was upset and didn't want to come to the footy again because of it.
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I watched that Geelong team emerge from the tunnel on Saturday night, it struck me how huge each body is. They are still well and truly the bench mark team in the competition, and would beat St Kilda 8 out of every 10 times.
Although they rely on a terrible KPP in Hawkins and Mooney (is there anyone more overrated than this man?) luckily they have so many goal kicking midfielders that they are some what redundant anyway.
The St Kilda side has far to many questions marks over it and i think Geelong will be able to nullify its biggest threats.
I also had a bet with a mate from work early last year saying the Richmond would win a flag before St Kilda did, one of my more brave if not stupid bets i have made, we were travelling okay at the time...
Joel Cory for Norm Smith
Geelong by 27 points.
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Whoever runs for Richmond in the half time sprint.
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Geelong
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Geelong for me then they can go away for a while.... :thumbsup
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go Saints.
I just wish Milne didnt play for them then it would be an absolute no brainer.
still the saint just.
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I don't really mind, I hope the Saints win, but think Geelong will
A big part of me would like for Geelong to be underachievers with a side who should have won 3 in a row
The Saints are my local side and given they've only ever won one before I think it'd be nice for them to break their drought
That being said, I kinda respect and admire the way the Cats play, so if they win it they'll be quite deserving. Either way, it should be a ripper.
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I am leaning towards St Kilda...
A) I think it would be amusing for Geelong to dominate the competition for 3 years and only have 1 flag to show for it. :lol
B) My cousin actually played for St Kilda in the 97 Grand Final.(So I do have a soft spot for them)
C) 1 flag in over 100 years.......Saints fans know pain-Time for number 2.
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Geelong for me then they can go away for a while.... :thumbsup
X 2. I don't necessarily hate the Saints but I couldn't stand the thought of that little weasel Milne holding a premiership medallion.
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I think Geelong, but now the skunks are out I really dont care! :cheers
+1 :thumbsup
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Geelong by 60 points
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I hope the Cats win. Like WP I can't stand Saints supporters and their new found arrogance. Plus that weed Milne just rubs me the wrong way.
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go cats :)
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Got my wish Skunks gone. :clapping
Geelong for mine though - Had a lot of trouble with the Sainters supporters over the years - WTF do they think they are, how can you be so arrogant when you have won 1 flag in your history :rollin F em they can keep suffering for all I give a crap.
Go Cats
and Storm - Big day Saturday for me :cheers
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I hope the Cats win. Like WP I can't stand Saints supporters and their new found arrogance. Plus that weed Milne just rubs me the wrong way.
Can't stand Aints supporters either.
They think the world owes them a flag 'cause they have been so bad forover a 100 years.
And it seems Riewoldt is now a protected species.....
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and Storm - Big day Saturday for me :cheers
NRL finals really hard to pick. No doubt the four form sides of the competition have made it to the semis. Storm probably in the best recent form but Brisbane and Parra have been really good over the last 6-8 weeks and Bulldogs been good all season.
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And it seems Riewoldt is now a protected species.....
He is the new Matthew Lloyd - and it's another reason I don't want them to win it!
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Got my wish Skunks gone. :clapping
Geelong for mine though - Had a lot of trouble with the Sainters supporters over the years - WTF do they think they are, how can you be so arrogant when you have won 1 flag in your history :rollin F em they can keep suffering for all I give a crap.
Go Cats
and Storm - Big day Saturday for me :cheers
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A few ex-Tigers down at the Cattery....
Six degrees of separation
Herald Sun, 23-09-2009, Pg: 73
RICHMOND is claiming a rather large influence down at Geelong.
This is why:
CATS vice president Gareth Andrews is a 1974 Richmond premiership player and is also a former general manager of the Tigers.
GEELONG football manager Neil Balme is also a 1974 Richmond premiership player.
Duncan Kellaway is the Cats' physio.
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A few ex-Tigers down at the Cattery....
Six degrees of separation
Herald Sun, 23-09-2009, Pg: 73
RICHMOND is claiming a rather large influence down at Geelong.
This is why:
CATS vice president Gareth Andrews is a 1974 Richmond premiership player and is also a former general manager of the Tigers.
GEELONG football manager Neil Balme is also a 1974 Richmond premiership player.
Duncan Kellaway is the Cats' physio.
Is it Richmond thats claiming? Or is it the reporter that is claiming that he knows someone who is the best friend of the milkman who chats to a guy who sells the footy record who knows someone who knows an official at the club who is claiming we have a large influence at the Cats? There's your six degrees anyway! :wallywink
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And it seems Riewoldt is now a protected species.....
He is the new Matthew Lloyd - and it's another reason I don't want them to win it!
I knew it was bad but I didn't know how bad........
"Another major combatant in Saturday's grand final, Nick Riewoldt, is also prominent on the list of players in the good books with the umps.
Riewoldt, at the centre of the most controversial free kick of the year last Friday night, has conceded only 38 frees in the past three years.
The umps, though, have rewarded the St Kilda skipper with 112, giving him a differential of +74 going into the biggest game of his life."
http://foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,26112563-23211,00.html?from=public_rss (http://foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,26112563-23211,00.html?from=public_rss)
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The teams for those interested .......
St Kilda
B: Jason Blake, Zac Dawson, Steven Baker
HB: Brendon Goddard, Sam Fisher, Sam Gilbert
C: Farren Ray, Lenny Hayes, Nick Dal Santo
HF: Andrew McQualter, Justin Koschitzke, Clint Jones
F: Stephen Milne, Nick Riewoldt, Jason Gram
Foll: Steven King, Leigh Montagna, Adam Schneider
I/C: Luke Ball, Raphael Clarke, Sean Dempster, Michael Gardiner
Emg: David Armitage, Jarryn Geary, James Gwilt
In: Dempster
Out: Robert Eddy
Geelong
B: Darren Milburn, Matthew Scarlett, Corey Enright
HB: Tom Harley, Harry Taylor, Andrew Mackie
C: Joel Corey, Cameron Ling, James Kelly
HF: Jimmy Bartel, Cameron Mooney, Steve Johnson
F: Travis Varcoe, Tom Hawkins, Paul Chapman
Foll: Mark Blake, Joel Selwood, Gary Ablett
I/C: Brad Ottens, Shannon Byrnes, Max Rooke, David Wojcinski
Emg: Shane Mumford, Simon Hogan, Mathew Stokes
No change
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Richmond should attempt to get a the like of David Armitage or Nathan Djerrkura
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You would think Hudghton may retire having missed out on the GF. He isn't even named as an emergency. I wonder if there'll be any backlash from Saints supporters towards Lyon over this if they fail on Saturday.
Richmond should attempt to get a the like of David Armitage or Nathan Djerrkura
No way would either be let go for nothing and I think we've learnt our lesson by now about trading picks away for opposition fringe players.
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im tipping geelong.
dont wanna see ablett cry again lol.
he is a great player though enjoyed seeing him finally win a brownlow the other night.
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I must admit, I do think Geelong may win, but I can't believe StKilda is at $2.40 to win, that is ridiculous
Especially given the line betting is something like 8.5 points, if you think it's going to be that close I don't know how the underdog is at such long odds. Very strange.
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Especially given the line betting is something like 8.5 points, if you think it's going to be that close I don't know how the underdog is at such long odds. Very strange.
The weight of money Infamy, nothing else.
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Talk about controversy. Two critical ump calls each way. Hawkins' goal hit the post and Milburn getting pinged with abuse towards the goalumpire with seconds to go in the quarter. I guess it evened up but sheesh you'd be peeed off if those sort of things cost you a flag in a close game.
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Well done to Geelong. Gutsy win.
As much as I didn't care who won I'm glad in a way the Cats did. A victory for pure footy over the Swan shutdown cloning Lyon has brought to St Kilda. The Saints must be gutted. Bad goalkicking is bad footy. They blew it big time. If ever there was an example of how important your bottom 5 is to a GF team it was today - Ralph Clarke, Milne, Schneider, Dawson had shockers today.
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Poo house footy club. :lol :rollin :lol
1 flag in 113 years. They have let it slip again after winning 20 in the home and away and losing three games for the season by to combined total of 19 points. :ROTFL
Last 3 Grand Finals led Hawks at 3qt time in 71 lost.
Led Adelaide at half time in 97 lost.
Let Geelong today at 3 qt time and won 3 qtrs and lost after a goalless last qtr.
Premiership window is closing and that bottom 6 of the Saints had no impact today. Under pressure close to the finish line the Saints crumbled. So much for them hurling abuse at us and our recent history. People who live in glass houses hey Saints fans............ At least we are still ten times the team they are with 11 years less history in the VFL/AFL and we have not won about 26 wooden spoons including four in a row 83-86. :lol :rollin :lol
Worst football club in the AFL 1 flag in 113 years.
Well done to the Cats they honestly at a minimum did deserve to win two flags from three years of dominance. Bomber was right the Cats were going to make amends this year from the pain they felt last year and you would believe him as the Cats had been dominant for 3 years. I can only hope the Saints return to their showpony crap and return back to mid table mediocrity where they belong. So nice to see Nick Riewoldt cry again.
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LOL Tucky :rollin
Here's a place to post it lol ;) -------> http://www.saintsational.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1
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How good is Lenny Hayes :o
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You would think Hudghton may retire having missed out on the GF. He isn't even named as an emergency. I wonder if there'll be any backlash from Saints supporters towards Lyon over this if they fail on Saturday.
Richmond should attempt to get a the like of David Armitage or Nathan Djerrkura
No way would either be let go for nothing and I think we've learnt our lesson by now about trading picks away for opposition fringe players.
"Some people fall off and retire because of age, and we'll have a couple of them, maybe, and we'll get some new blood in like Ryan Gamble, or Shane Mumford comes up and plays in their first grand final day.
"It just evolves, and just continues year after year
What I'm looking forward to is getting into the draft this year, and we've got some salary cap problems, so we might have to trade," Thompson said after his team's premiership triumph.
"I'm looking forward to getting the best group of kids we possibly can, and training them up, and putting pressure on guys, and having the best football club in Australia."
There is nothing wrong with getting in players that were highly rated / high draft picks if still young and can add 10 years to Richmond potential wise.
I would look at raiding Geelongs list and trying a talent or two.
I would rather a Nathan Djerrkura type running around for Coburg or on the bench for Richmond than most of the spuds we have at the current.
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Well the right team won in the end. It was poetic justice. In the latter part of the year Saints have played their shutdown game knowing they had the trump cards in Riewoldt and Kosi. Bulldogs beat them all over the park except they lacked a marking target up forward. Some people admire the way the Saints play, I found it negative and stifling. Today the rain washed away their trump cards. I'm glad that Geelong won. I think they try to play fast transitional play through the corridor and try to kick a winning score. The fact that Riewoldt, Kosi, Milne and Schneider have kicked probably 80-85% of the Saints goals says just as much about their talent as it does about their cautious style of keeping players back and implementing a sparse forward setup. Geelong too tough at the contest as the game wore on.
As far as punting goes well my tip that the bookies had got it wrong and that it would be a very close game and St Kilda were good value @ 2.35 earlier in the week was right, except all the money kept coming for Geelong. In the end I managed to hedge my big St Kilda bet by laying Saints at Qtr Time and backing Geelong at Half time.
All in all a good day :cheers
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what a great day at the G, forget the weather the game was great. its a pity there must be a loser but that was one of the best GF l been too.
Both teams handled the ball better in those conditions than Richmond do in the dry weather ;D we are years from playing in a grand final ;D
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On a humorous note did anyone see Spud's pre game prediction that the wet weather would harm the cats more than the Saints because
i) The Saints zone will be harder to break down in wet conditions
ii) Riewoldt and Kosi are good wet weather players.
1 goal each to the Saints big men. Saints zone didn't really seem to be working after the first quarter. :lol
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Great result
WOnderful to see the Saints lose, which they did because in the final quarter they seemed content with treying to stop Geelong score rather than trying to win the thing
Absolutely magnificant to see all the players sooking and their supporters howling ...and to those lowlifes that abused Ma Powell a few years ago....... I hope you liked it because you got what you truly deserved
:clapping :clapping :birthday :birthday :santa ;D :rollin :rollin
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Great result
WOnderful to see the Saints lose, which they did because in the final quarter they seemed content with treying to stop Geelong score rather than trying to win the thing
Absolutely magnificant to see all the players sooking and their supporters howling ...and to those lowlifes that abused Ma Powell a few years ago....... I hope you liked it because you got what you truly deserved
:clapping :clapping :birthday :birthday :santa ;D :rollin :rollin
agree wholeheartly, once a loser always a loser when it comes to this club, lets face it every comp needs the losers like the Saints
its just a shame their supporters havent clued onto it yet :lol
they may jag one sooner than later but overall their history will
always be littered with hard luck stories...and failure. :rollin
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You would think Hudghton may retire having missed out on the GF. He isn't even named as an emergency. I wonder if there'll be any backlash from Saints supporters towards Lyon over this if they fail on Saturday.
Richmond should attempt to get a the like of David Armitage or Nathan Djerrkura
No way would either be let go for nothing and I think we've learnt our lesson by now about trading picks away for opposition fringe players.
"Some people fall off and retire because of age, and we'll have a couple of them, maybe, and we'll get some new blood in like Ryan Gamble, or Shane Mumford comes up and plays in their first grand final day.
"It just evolves, and just continues year after year
What I'm looking forward to is getting into the draft this year, and we've got some salary cap problems, so we might have to trade," Thompson said after his team's premiership triumph.
"I'm looking forward to getting the best group of kids we possibly can, and training them up, and putting pressure on guys, and having the best football club in Australia."
There is nothing wrong with getting in players that were highly rated / high draft picks if still young and can add 10 years to Richmond potential wise.
I would look at raiding Geelongs list and trying a talent or two.
I would rather a Nathan Djerrkura type running around for Coburg or on the bench for Richmond than most of the spuds we have at the current.
But Geelong will only let their younger fringe players go if we offer up a good pick and they won't let any of their best youngsters in their 22 go unless they walkout themselves (Prismall last year). The last thing Richmond needs to do is offer up a good pick for a Kane Tenace just because he's on Geelong's list and was a top 10 pick. That's the type of player the Cats will be looking to trade.
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Nick Riewoldt tore an adductor muscle two days before Grand Final.
The injury would have meant he missed at least two matches during the season, but he still played.
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/sport/afl/story/0,26633,26254924-5016215,00.html
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Chapman played 3/4ers of the game with a hammy apparently. Swings and roundabouts. If cry baby wasn't right to play he shouldn't have.
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Agree if the Aints had won he would have been Captain Courageous. Absolute crap especially when the bloke who wins the Norm Smith was having injections to get his hammy warm on the coldest day of the year. Excuses excuses that's why they have one flag in 113 seasons.
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Boo hoo.