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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on January 13, 2010, 06:49:12 PM
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Audio of Newy on 3aw last night
http://media.mytalk.com.au/3AW/AUDIO/130110_Sports_Today_Replay.mp3 (http://media.mytalk.com.au/3AW/AUDIO/130110_Sports_Today_Replay.mp3)
* Nah he hasn't tattooed over summer. Matty White likes that tatts and has flames around his ankles. Tambo has new tatts of his kids and mum.
* Exciting year coming up. Obviously at this time of year all the boys are excited. Everyone practising to put all the things we're implementing into practice on the MCG in round 1.
* Shaw said it's hard for a senior player like Newy when the club is obviously in a rebuilding stage again under Hardwick and he went through all the names gone and the loss of experience it brings. Newy said it's going to be a process but you never know. The boys really believe in the gameplan we're putting together over summer. Been more emphasis on our defensive aspects on the field. Newy believes we have enough senior players to push through that and it's a real exciting year coming up.
* Without Richo it's about finding different avenues to goal. Believes we have the manpower up forward to kick enough goals along with the structure we have now up forward. The game itself ebbs and flows so he doesn't think it'll be too defensive next year and some good scores will be put on the board.
* A lot of people come up and ask him if he's going to play midfield this year. He said he's more a second stringer. Believes the backline is his place and he plays his best footy there but if the coach says go into the midfield or up forward he'll happily do it.
* Astbury - swimming in a pool with his sister and a tree fell on him. He saw it falling and protected his sister but ended up with a corky to his leg.
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Believes we have the manpower up forward to kick enough goals along with the structure we have now up forward.
:o Deluded if he truly believes that.
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Believes we have the manpower up forward to kick enough goals along with the structure we have now up forward.
:o Deluded if he truly believes that.
Well I must be deluded as well because I feel the same. WE have Jack, Nahas, Post, King, Tuck, Deledio (pinch hitter), Connors, Griffiths, Browne, Graham, Jackson (pinch hitter), Edwards, Gilligan (if elevated), Morton and Vickery if needed.
Doesnt look that bad to me, include the running players wings and mids and I am sure we will do ok... :thumbsup
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Well I must be deluded as well because I feel the same.
Maybe you are.
I'll be amazed if we kick many winning scores this season.
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Well I must be deluded as well because I feel the same.
Maybe you are.
I'll be amazed if we kick many winning scores this season.
Maybe I am, maybe Newman is but maybe you are, look at the Swans years ago when they won the Premiership, the teams they beat did not kick many goals because of the Swans defensive pressure and the Swans never kicked big scores either. Look at the Saints last year they were the hardest team in the comp to score against because of their defensive game plan.
What have we been focusing on at training that has been mentioned in just about every training thread... DEFENSIVE PRESSURE..... so add that with those players I mentioned in the forward line and I think the club know what they are doing!!
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Well I must be deluded as well because I feel the same.
Maybe you are.
I'll be amazed if we kick many winning scores this season.
Maybe I am, maybe Newman is but maybe you are, look at the Swans years ago when they won the Premiership, the teams they beat did not kick many goals because of the Swans defensive pressure and the Swans never kicked big scores either. Look at the Saints last year they were the hardest team in the comp to score against because of their defensive game plan.
What have we been focusing on at training that has been mentioned in just about every training thread... DEFENSIVE PRESSURE..... so add that with those players I mentioned in the forward line and I think the club know what they are doing!!
We'll see.
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Believes we have the manpower up forward to kick enough goals along with the structure we have now up forward.
:o Deluded if he truly believes that.
It's comments like this that show little faith in our players in the forward line, comments like this that ruin this forum for others trying to have faith in where we are heading. :whistle
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It's comments like this that show little faith in our players in the forward line, comments like this that ruin this forum for others trying to have faith in where we are heading. :whistle
Faith is all but gone for me. No more spin, I want to see evidence.
Like I said, we'll see & I hope Newman (& yourself ;)) is right.
I just can't see it atm.
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Believes we have the manpower up forward to kick enough goals along with the structure we have now up forward.
:o Deluded if he truly believes that.
Well I must be deluded as well because I feel the same. WE have Jack, Nahas, Post, King, Tuck, Deledio (pinch hitter), Connors, Griffiths, Browne, Graham, Jackson (pinch hitter), Edwards, Gilligan (if elevated), Morton and Vickery if needed.
Doesnt look that bad to me, include the running players wings and mids and I am sure we will do ok... :thumbsup
ooh dear me WA.
Edwards, Graham, Browne, Edwards, Connors, Gilligan and dare i say King.
you been on the yeyo again pal because that forward line is laughable to say the least
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It's comments like this that show little faith in our players in the forward line, comments like this that ruin this forum for others trying to have faith in where we are heading. :whistle
Faith(spin) is all but gone for me. I want to see evidence.
Like I said, we'll see & I hope Newman (& yourself ;)) is right.
I just can't see it atm.
You should never lose the faith MM, no matter what, thats what makes us the best supporters in the AFL!! Don't worry I too have suffered since after 1980 but I will continue to believe that every year through every player and every coach we are building to improve this club on and off field. :thumbsup
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Believes we have the manpower up forward to kick enough goals along with the structure we have now up forward.
:o Deluded if he truly believes that.
Well I must be deluded as well because I feel the same. WE have Jack, Nahas, Post, King, Tuck, Deledio (pinch hitter), Connors, Griffiths, Browne, Graham, Jackson (pinch hitter), Edwards, Gilligan (if elevated), Morton and Vickery if needed.
Doesnt look that bad to me, include the running players wings and mids and I am sure we will do ok... :thumbsup
King isn't a goal scorer, the most he's kicked in a season is 5. Jackson doesn't kick many...Browne is a ruckman that didn't kick many at Coburg last season. Connors has been here for 4 years and has only played 10 games. Tuck kicks the occasional goal but isn't goal kicker. Jack, Lids, Morton, Nahas all have the ability to kick a good amount, but I don't know about most of your list. Hopefully a big year coming up for Riewoldt at CHF with someone stepping up at Full Forward.
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Believes we have the manpower up forward to kick enough goals along with the structure we have now up forward.
:o Deluded if he truly believes that.
Well I must be deluded as well because I feel the same. WE have Jack, Nahas, Post, King, Tuck, Deledio (pinch hitter), Connors, Griffiths, Browne, Graham, Jackson (pinch hitter), Edwards, Gilligan (if elevated), Morton and Vickery if needed.
Doesnt look that bad to me, include the running players wings and mids and I am sure we will do ok... :thumbsup
ooh dear me WA.
Edwards, Graham, Browne, Edwards, Connors, Gilligan and dare i say King.
you been on the yeyo again pal because that forward line is laughable to say the least
Well I had to put someone down there, who do you think then Daniel, come up with some others instead of just bagging what I have suggested!!
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when does Newman talk in this audio?
can't find it!
:)
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Believes we have the manpower up forward to kick enough goals along with the structure we have now up forward.
:o Deluded if he truly believes that.
Well I must be deluded as well because I feel the same. WE have Jack, Nahas, Post, King, Tuck, Deledio (pinch hitter), Connors, Griffiths, Browne, Graham, Jackson (pinch hitter), Edwards, Gilligan (if elevated), Morton and Vickery if needed.
Doesnt look that bad to me, include the running players wings and mids and I am sure we will do ok... :thumbsup
ooh dear me WA.
Edwards, Graham, Browne, Edwards, Connors, Gilligan and dare i say King.
you been on the yeyo again pal because that forward line is laughable to say the least
Well I had to put someone down there, who do you think then Daniel, come up with some others instead of just bagging what I have suggested!!
as it stands right now the only players capable on our list to kick goals are Nahas, Jack and Lids. I think Post looks the part too.
but sadly thats it. the rest on your list and others are just a sad indication of where our club sits at the moment.
King, Jackson will not take us to a flag, Edwards ditto.
LMAO at Browne. you serious or what? he can hardly brak into our senior team and you think he is part of this dynamic forward line we wil have in 2010.
I can see it now, Max Rooke and Scarlett shaking in their boots when they line up against Edwards and Connors.
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Well I give up on some of you so called supporters and trying as I have been to get you on board for the start of this season. At least the club and Newman and even me believe we have something up forward and as a team.
So to you unbelievers, dwell in the past and all of your negative thoughts towards the club, players and our prospects for the year, I can only hope for the sake of yourselves and your families that you are not this negative in your personal lives.
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Well I give up on some of you so called supporters and trying as I have been to get you on board for the start of this season. At least the club and Newman and even me believe we have something up forward and as a team.
So to you unbelievers, dwell in the past and all of your negative thoughts towards the club, players and our prospects for the year, I can only hope for the sake of yourselves and your families that you are not this negative in your personal lives.
Are you talking about me for being concerned about where the goals are going to come from? Do I (and others) have to talk up the club all the time to be "real" supporters? Mate, I have been supporting this club for a long time and have seen nothing but poo (apart from the occasional decent season), yet I still get to games when I can and I buy a membership every year. I'm not negative, I just give my opinions and that's what a forum is for.
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as it stands right now the only players capable on our list to kick goals are Nahas, Jack and Lids. I think Post looks the part too.
but sadly thats it.
Sadly is right.
Richo not lining up for another season has really hurt our forward line depth despite no partaking in much of last season. In his absence we finished 15th remember. Hardly encouraging heading in to '10 with so few renowned goal scorers on the list.
Riewoldt is promising, Morton unpredictable, Nahas a 2nd year player, Cotchin still recovering and Deledio carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders. We can realistically expect injuries to some of those players during the year and then where does it leave us?
I have no expectations of our forward line this season to kick winning scores except I hope that we get some valuable game time into the likes of Post, Griffiths, Gourdis, Vickery, Taylor, Roberts, Astbury etc. which may help us to in the future.
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Well I give up on some of you so called supporters and trying as I have been to get you on board for the start of this season. At least the club and Newman and even me believe we have something up forward and as a team.
So to you unbelievers, dwell in the past and all of your negative thoughts towards the club, players and our prospects for the year, I can only hope for the sake of yourselves and your families that you are not this negative in your personal lives.
Are you talking about me for being concerned about where the goals are going to come from? Do I (and others) have to talk up the club all the time to be "real" supporters? Mate, I have been supporting this club for a long time and have seen nothing but poo (apart from the occasional decent season), yet I still get to games when I can and I buy a membership every year. I'm not negative, I just give my opinions and that's what a forum is for.
Thats nice, continue on with your opinions I won't be buying into them as much as you won't by talking the club up... until they start winning I suppose..
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Well I give up on some of you so called supporters and trying as I have been to get you on board for the start of this season. At least the club and Newman and even me believe we have something up forward and as a team.
So to you unbelievers, dwell in the past and all of your negative thoughts towards the club, players and our prospects for the year, I can only hope for the sake of yourselves and your families that you are not this negative in your personal lives.
Are you talking about me for being concerned about where the goals are going to come from? Do I (and others) have to talk up the club all the time to be "real" supporters? Mate, I have been supporting this club for a long time and have seen nothing but poo (apart from the occasional decent season), yet I still get to games when I can and I buy a membership every year. I'm not negative, I just give my opinions and that's what a forum is for.
Thats nice, continue on with your opinions I won't be buying into them as much as you won't by talking the club up... until they start winning I suppose..
You're a hero :thumbsup You really are.
Someone give this bloke a medal! Let's not forget some of your post game rants from last year. "Edwards is useless"..."Polo doesn't deserve his spot" Pot, kettle, black. :shh LMFAO @ you bagging everyone who isn't sure about our forward line.
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Hey Davey you sure you are not the hero??? Edwards and Polo FROM LAST YEAR LAST SEASON....... MOVE ON GIRL I HAVE!!!! I have already said I don't think Polo is a fit in this side but I hope he makes it, as you would have noticed with your sharp eye... ::) I have included Edwards in my forward line that YOU said would not work. I am backing every player and the club in and I have so far since the end of round 22 2009!! Appart from my comments on Polo but like I have said millions of times I hop he proves me wrong.
So give yourself a medal and jam it up your arse!! Bored of your 2 year old comments now go away!
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Hey Davey you sure you are not the hero??? Edwards and Polo FROM LAST YEAR LAST SEASON....... MOVE ON GIRL I HAVE!!!! I have already said I don't think Polo is a fit in this side but I hope he makes it, as you would have noticed with your sharp eye... ::) I have included Edwards in my forward line that YOU said would not work. I am backing every player and the club in and I have so far since the end of round 22 2009!! Appart from my comments on Polo but like I have said millions of times I hop he proves me wrong.
So give yourself a medal and jam it up your behind!! Bored of your 2 year old comments now go away!
:lol :rollin :wallywink
"effing effing Edwards is a waste of money" "effing Edwards is not an AFL player" ;D
I didn't say your forward line wouldn't work, I just pointed out you listed blokes that either don't kick enough goals or don't even play as a forward. That " I hope he proves me wrong " poo is a cop out, too. If you don't think a player is good enough then say so...or are you afraid you'll hurt their feelings..
You should start your own site: Billy Brown Toungue the Richmond fan.......
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Someone give this bloke a medal! Let's not forget some of your post game rants from last year. "Edwards is useless"..."Polo doesn't deserve his spot" Pot, kettle, black. :shh LMFAO @ you bagging everyone who isn't sure about our forward line.
:lol The hypocrisy is hilarious.
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Yeah two might want to read a few of your own posts now go back to playing with each others .... I am out of this. I will stick to topic thanks.
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Audio of Newy on 3aw last night
Believes we have the manpower up forward to kick enough goals along with the structure we have now up forward. The game itself ebbs and flows so he doesn't think it'll be too defensive next year and some good scores will be put on the board.
Good to see that Newman indicates the structure up forward has also changed this should help out the new forwards and obviously fit in with the new game plan.
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as it stands right now the only players capable on our list to kick goals are Nahas, Jack and Lids. I think Post looks the part too.
but sadly thats it.
Daniel, did you forget Morton or don't you rate him?
I'd also add Tuck as capable, if he is played as a forward. He is a strong mark and a surprisingly good kick for goal, but yeah, there's not too many with the score on the board.
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they are right we lack proven players not just in the forward line but evreywhere. the forward line is being rebuilt. we wont get any real reward from our recruiting until the players have gained experience shown they are up to AFL standard and proven themselves.
you want to keep on topic. this will be mst likely the forward structure well the structure i would like to see.
hf/ stuff rotate thru mid/ cotchin all class we need to develop him in a similar vein to what geelong did with ablett has not established himself yet.. chf riewoldt is slowly getting there looks to be a player but he has not established himself yet.
stuff/ nahas pacy very small good defensive pressure player lacks polish for his type imo we can and must do better down the track.has not established himself yet.
f/ pocket vickery rotate ruck.very raw player and way under sized but we need to get games into him. not established yet. ff imo will be polak even though i dont rate him. we need at least one experienced tall in the front half. if not polak i would give dave gourdis a go at ff if he shows hes ready in the preseason clearly he has not established himself yet.
pocket/ morton still have doubts about him but has done enough to warrant selection i suppose you could call him an established player.
other genuine forwards on the list who i hope get a game or two but you know will have minimal impact for obvious reasons.
astbury still skinny a sort of hit up chf talls take time and he will be no exception.
gilligan rookie list player cant see him being promoted.
nason same as gilligan.
post i believe he will play back but no matter where he plays just how much impact do we expect from him. will do well to play 15 games.
connors has skill but so far has not shown the right attitude.
griffiths hopefully will get some games at app 198cm and 100kg he is right to go size wise but is he in maturity.
taylor will he even be on the list people really must now start to question his attitude.
westhoff very skinny rookie wont be promoted.
none of these players are established in fact nearly all are in early development where you dont expect a lot of impact. it would be crazy and unfair on these players to expect significant impact on the first 22.
the idea is to get games into them and forget about what impact they make for now. in growing the list and getting the young players experience we will struggle in the forward line for a few yrs yet.
this is not negative its plain old common sense and taking things the way they are.
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Snip......
Discuss and agree/disagree all you like but let's leave out the personal crap and slanging matches ppl!
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taylor will he even be on the list people really must now start to question his attitude.
While I tend to agree with most of what you posted Claw, why do you believe this to be the case about Taylor? What's he done wrong so far?
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taylor will he even be on the list people really must now start to question his attitude.
While I tend to agree with most of what you posted Claw, why do you believe this to be the case about Taylor? What's he done wrong so far?
absolutely nothing, Claw just continuing his rant over here as he cant do it @ PRE anymore
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Our defence is exposed because of unaccountability and midfield pressure put on us as well as poor skill. Our forward line is substandard as the delivery is poor and the pressure on opposing backs running it out is non existent most of the time.
Midfield being more accountable and better skilled will help both ends of the ground.
Its all about pressure on the opposition and working harder than the opposition. Individually you may be talented but you still need to work to reap the rewards long term.