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Title: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on April 07, 2010, 12:56:48 AM
Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim

    * Michael Warner
    * From: Herald Sun
    * April 07, 2010



RICHMOND last night reacted furiously to claims recovering drug addict Ben Cousins had suffered a relapse.

High-profile AFL player manager Ricky Olarenshaw incensed the Tigers by declaring Cousins had again gone off the rails.

"I'm not one for gossip and rumours but I've been hearing murmurings for probably the last month about Ben Cousins. And I got some things confirmed to me over the weekend, and it was talked about publicly on the airwaves yesterday, so I'm not the first one to talk about it, but I believe that Ben Cousins may have lost his way again," Olarenshaw told radio station Gold FM yesterday.

"He did train with the club on Thursday and then he was taken out of the team because of knee soreness - that's what the club used (to explain his absence). We know that he was in hospital about two weeks ago and there have been a lot of sightings of him out and about with his behaviour a little bit erratic.

"He's been out with his shirt off and this sort of thing and it's sad.

"It's the last thing you want to hear, because we do want to see him do well, but I think in the very near future there will be an announcement made about what he is doing playing wise.

"And I think he will step away from the game. That's what I'm hearing."

Who was the best performer this week? Vote now and win.

Olarenshaw, a member of Essendon's 1993 premiership team, told listeners he had heard the information from sources close to the 2005 Brownlow medallist.

But Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale scoffed at the claims.

"It is a well-known fact that as a part of his condition of employment, Ben is drug tested by the AFL up to three times a week," Gale said.

"We get these rumours and speculation on a daily basis relating to Ben," Gale said. "I am not quite sure what motivated Ricky to make these comments. You would have to ask Ricky about that.

"Ben will be available for selection this week against Sydney and we look forward to his ongoing contribution at the club."

Olarenshaw tried to back away from his comments last night. He claimed he had heard about Cousins' supposed relapse on a weekend radio show, but could not nominate a station or broadcaster.

"All I was doing was recapping speculation over the weekend that it wasn't a knee injury that was stopping him from playing," Olarenshaw said.

"There have been rumours going around about Ben for a while, whether he is living a clean life. I hear rumours all the time but I don't know if they are true or not. I was never saying this was fact."

Richmond contacted AFL Players' Association chief executive Matt Finnis to express outrage at Olarenshaw, who manages Cousins' teammate Daniel Jackson. Finnis later called Olarenshaw to voice his disapproval.

An AFLPA spokesman said last night: "We would hope all player agents, when making public comments, do so in a responsible and well-informed manner."

The injured Cousins, 31, is no certainty to return against Sydney at the SCG on Saturday night.

Cousins could not be contacted for comment.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/tigers-lash-ben-cousins-relapse-claim/story-e6frf9if-1225850673545
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Penelope on April 07, 2010, 01:18:44 AM
Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim

    * Michael Warner
    * From: Herald Sun
    * April 07, 2010



RICHMOND last night reacted furiously to claims recovering drug addict Ben Cousins had suffered a relapse.

High-profile AFL player manager Ricky Olarenshaw incensed the Tigers by declaring Cousins had again gone off the rails.

"I'm not one for gossip and rumours but I've been hearing murmurings for probably the last month about Ben Cousins. And I got some things confirmed to me over the weekend, and it was talked about publicly on the airwaves yesterday, so I'm not the first one to talk about it, but I believe that Ben Cousins may have lost his way again," Olarenshaw told radio station Gold FM yesterday.

"He did train with the club on Thursday and then he was taken out of the team because of knee soreness - that's what the club used (to explain his absence). We know that he was in hospital about two weeks ago and there have been a lot of sightings of him out and about with his behaviour a little bit erratic.

"He's been out with his shirt off and this sort of thing and it's sad.

"It's the last thing you want to hear, because we do want to see him do well, but I think in the very near future there will be an announcement made about what he is doing playing wise.

"And I think he will step away from the game. That's what I'm hearing."

Who was the best performer this week? Vote now and win.

Olarenshaw, a member of Essendon's 1993 premiership team, told listeners he had heard the information from sources close to the 2005 Brownlow medallist.

But Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale scoffed at the claims.

"It is a well-known fact that as a part of his condition of employment, Ben is drug tested by the AFL up to three times a week," Gale said.

"We get these rumours and speculation on a daily basis relating to Ben," Gale said. "I am not quite sure what motivated Ricky to make these comments. You would have to ask Ricky about that.

"Ben will be available for selection this week against Sydney and we look forward to his ongoing contribution at the club."

Olarenshaw tried to back away from his comments last night. He claimed he had heard about Cousins' supposed relapse on a weekend radio show, but could not nominate a station or broadcaster.

"All I was doing was recapping speculation over the weekend that it wasn't a knee injury that was stopping him from playing," Olarenshaw said.

"There have been rumours going around about Ben for a while, whether he is living a clean life. I hear rumours all the time but I don't know if they are true or not. I was never saying this was fact."

Richmond contacted AFL Players' Association chief executive Matt Finnis to express outrage at Olarenshaw, who manages Cousins' teammate Daniel Jackson. Finnis later called Olarenshaw to voice his disapproval.

An AFLPA spokesman said last night: "We would hope all player agents, when making public comments, do so in a responsible and well-informed manner."

The injured Cousins, 31, is no certainty to return against Sydney at the SCG on Saturday night.

Cousins could not be contacted for comment.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/tigers-lash-ben-cousins-relapse-claim/story-e6frf9if-1225850673545

FFS  :wallywink
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: FNM on April 07, 2010, 05:08:10 AM
Had to come out of retirement for this lol
What a scum thing to say based on rumour.
Hey Ricky, give us the date, time and station you heard these radio reports and I'm sure an organisation like Rehame can do a check ::)
If untrue, Ben should take him to the cleaners  :banghead
BTW erratic behaviour can also mean having one too many drinks, like many footballers do each week  :cheers
The AFL should say if his drug tests have been clean or not  >:(
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 07, 2010, 07:21:48 AM
The AFL should say if his drug tests have been clean or not  >:(

They don't need to FNM

If he tested positive for anything he'd be out on his ear, no ifs buts or maybes as we are talking about in competition testing here - the 3 strike policy does not apply. If the tests were positive we'd know. However, the silence is defeaning from AFL headquarters

Pathetic rumour mongering by a person you could only now describe as an ordinary bloke

ANd if this is the rumour some of our fearless posters have been alluding too  :whistle :whistle it is very funny indeed
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 07, 2010, 08:02:26 AM
My mail has nothing to do with Ben being off the rails( as I what I have PM people).

Might just add,Ricky Olenrenshaw is terriffic bloke actually.
 :thumbsup

Have you ever thought that Ben has had enough and doesnt want to play anymore ?
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 07, 2010, 08:57:37 AM
Might just add,Ricky Olenrenshaw is terriffic bloke actually.
 :thumbsup


Well Jack if you think that a "good bloke" would go on a radio program and peddle a rumour that he cannot back up with any factual evidence then good for you

To me it was a gutless and cowardly act and a "good bloke" wouldn't do that. A Gutter journalist certainly would but not a "good bloke"

What makes it worse is that he is registered player manager - he's job is to look after players not push rumours to discredit those that he makes his very good living from.

Quote

Have you ever thought that Ben has had enough and doesnt want to play anymore ?

Yeah after Caro's gutter effort and now this you couldn't blame the bloke. But do I think that's what is going on = NO  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 07, 2010, 09:20:55 AM
Might just add,Ricky Olenrenshaw is terriffic bloke actually.
 :thumbsup


Well Jack if you think that a "good bloke" would go on a radio program and peddle a rumour that he cannot back up with any factual evidence then good for you

To me it was a gutless and cowardly act and a "good bloke" wouldn't do that. A Gutter journalist certainly would but not a "good bloke"

What makes it worse is that he is registered player manager - he's job is to look after players not push rumours to discredit those that he makes his very good living from.

Quote

Have you ever thought that Ben has had enough and doesnt want to play anymore ?

Yeah after Caro's gutter effort and now this you couldn't blame the bloke. But do I think that's what is going on = NO  ;) ;)

totally agree wp

this aint the work of a good bloke, ricky o is scum
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Tigermonk on April 07, 2010, 10:23:34 AM
Might just add,Ricky Olenrenshaw is terriffic bloke actually.
 :thumbsup


Well Jack if you think that a "good bloke" would go on a radio program and peddle a rumour that he cannot back up with any factual evidence then good for you

To me it was a gutless and cowardly act and a "good bloke" wouldn't do that. A Gutter journalist certainly would but not a "good bloke"

What makes it worse is that he is registered player manager - he's job is to look after players not push rumours to discredit those that he makes his very good living from.

Quote

Have you ever thought that Ben has had enough and doesnt want to play anymore ?

Yeah after Caro's gutter effort and now this you couldn't blame the bloke. But do I think that's what is going on = NO  ;) ;)

l must have missed something important WP seeing l dont watch, read or listen to anything that comes out of Princess Carolines mouth
Please fill me in  ;D
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Infamy on April 07, 2010, 10:30:10 AM
My mail has nothing to do with Ben being off the rails( as I what I have PM people).

Might just add,Ricky Olenrenshaw is terriffic bloke actually.
 :thumbsup
I'd hardly consider you a great character reference
Quite the opposite really and the above article just backs that up
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Owl on April 07, 2010, 10:34:04 AM
Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim

    * Michael Warner
    * From: Herald Sun
    * April 07, 2010



RICHMOND last night reacted furiously to claims recovering drug addict Ben Cousins had suffered a relapse.

High-profile AFL player manager Ricky Olarenshaw incensed the Tigers by declaring Cousins had again gone off the rails.

"I'm not one for gossip and rumours but I've been hearing murmurings for probably the last month about Ben Cousins. And I got some things confirmed to me over the weekend, and it was talked about publicly on the airwaves yesterday, so I'm not the first one to talk about it, but I believe that Ben Cousins may have lost his way again," Olarenshaw told radio station Gold FM yesterday.

"He did train with the club on Thursday and then he was taken out of the team because of knee soreness - that's what the club used (to explain his absence). We know that he was in hospital about two weeks ago and there have been a lot of sightings of him out and about with his behaviour a little bit erratic.

"He's been out with his shirt off and this sort of thing and it's sad.

"It's the last thing you want to hear, because we do want to see him do well, but I think in the very near future there will be an announcement made about what he is doing playing wise.

"And I think he will step away from the game. That's what I'm hearing."

Who was the best performer this week? Vote now and win.

Olarenshaw, a member of Essendon's 1993 premiership team, told listeners he had heard the information from sources close to the 2005 Brownlow medallist.

But Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale scoffed at the claims.

"It is a well-known fact that as a part of his condition of employment, Ben is drug tested by the AFL up to three times a week," Gale said.

"We get these rumours and speculation on a daily basis relating to Ben," Gale said. "I am not quite sure what motivated Ricky to make these comments. You would have to ask Ricky about that.

"Ben will be available for selection this week against Sydney and we look forward to his ongoing contribution at the club."

Olarenshaw tried to back away from his comments last night. He claimed he had heard about Cousins' supposed relapse on a weekend radio show, but could not nominate a station or broadcaster.

"All I was doing was recapping speculation over the weekend that it wasn't a knee injury that was stopping him from playing," Olarenshaw said.

"There have been rumours going around about Ben for a while, whether he is living a clean life. I hear rumours all the time but I don't know if they are true or not. I was never saying this was fact."

Richmond contacted AFL Players' Association chief executive Matt Finnis to express outrage at Olarenshaw, who manages Cousins' teammate Daniel Jackson. Finnis later called Olarenshaw to voice his disapproval.

An AFLPA spokesman said last night: "We would hope all player agents, when making public comments, do so in a responsible and well-informed manner."

The injured Cousins, 31, is no certainty to return against Sydney at the SCG on Saturday night.

Cousins could not be contacted for comment.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/tigers-lash-ben-cousins-relapse-claim/story-e6frf9if-1225850673545

FFS  :wallywink
:clapping  Must be hard walking round with both feet in his mouth hahaha.
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: torch on April 07, 2010, 11:51:46 AM
Ben Cousins just needs to leave Richmond.

i am over Richmond having to deal with him and these rumours, this is not doing Richmond any favours and his recruitment was only a marketing objective.

Ben Cousins is gone, done, finished, all about himself and i don't care what Richmond people say about him.

this will be his last year, and i would rather have a young player playing then him.

 :(

Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 07, 2010, 11:53:44 AM
My mail has nothing to do with Ben being off the rails( as I what I have PM people).

Might just add,Ricky Olenrenshaw is terriffic bloke actually.
 :thumbsup
I'd hardly consider you a great character reference
Quite the opposite really and the above article just backs that up

You wouldnt find a more down to earth bloke actually.
You have your opinions, I have mine. Great fella is Ric :thumbsup
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: crannyvegas on April 07, 2010, 12:13:08 PM
My mail has nothing to do with Ben being off the rails( as I what I have PM people).

Might just add,Ricky Olenrenshaw is terriffic bloke actually.
 :thumbsup
I'd hardly consider you a great character reference
Quite the opposite really and the above article just backs that up

You wouldnt find a more down to earth bloke actually.
You have your opinions, I have mine. Great fella is Ric :thumbsup


Gosh he use to look like an uninformed nob when he was on the boundry for seven, eek it was so difficult to watch as he guessed at injuries and what not... Though sevens coverage hasn't always been based on keeping the public informed either.

Do you think Cuz will play out the year, or again for that matter?
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Ox on April 07, 2010, 12:52:25 PM
My mail has nothing to do with Ben being off the rails( as I what I have PM people).

Might just add,Ricky Olenrenshaw is terriffic bloke actually.
 :thumbsup
I'd hardly consider you a great character reference
Quite the opposite really and the above article just backs that up

You wouldnt find a more down to earth bloke actually.
You have your opinions, I have mine. Great fella is Ric :thumbsup

Sounds like a manipulative dog to me jak.

Ur mate riki was known for "getting on the rails" in his day.
Now he laggs people for being seen with their shirt off.

At days end,there are other players in the comp who have been given let off after let off for illegal substance usage.
Blokes usually hate cuzzy because their wives think he's cute.
Weak dogs.
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Infamy on April 07, 2010, 01:09:02 PM
My mail has nothing to do with Ben being off the rails( as I what I have PM people).

Might just add,Ricky Olenrenshaw is terriffic bloke actually.
 :thumbsup
I'd hardly consider you a great character reference
Quite the opposite really and the above article just backs that up

You wouldnt find a more down to earth bloke actually.
You have your opinions, I have mine. Great fella is Ric :thumbsup
That just highlights the calibre of people you associate with doesn't it?
If he's the most down to earth person you know and he says things like has been quoted in this article then that says it all really
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Ramps on April 07, 2010, 01:21:01 PM
Ben Cousins just needs to leave Richmond.

i am over Richmond having to deal with him and these rumours, this is not doing Richmond any favours and his recruitment was only a marketing objective.

Ben Cousins is gone, done, finished, all about himself and i don't care what Richmond people say about him.

this will be his last year, and i would rather have a young player playing then him.

 :(



I disagree the longer Cousins stays the better of we will be! :gotigers
Title: AFLPA backs Cousins (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on April 07, 2010, 04:14:01 PM
AFLPA backs Cousins
WILL BRODIE
April 7, 2010 - 2:36PM



If player agent Rick Olarenshaw believes recovering drug addict Ben Cousins has "again lost his way", he should address the Richmond player himself, AFL Player's Association representative Steven Alessio said today.

Olarenshaw made the claim on radio station Gold FM yesterday - with Richmond quick to deny the accusation.

“I think whenever there's rumour and stories that come out … if he's got real concerns, address it with Ben directly,” Alessio said on SEN radio.

Alessio said if Cousins was ever facing difficulties, the player's association offered support, both at club level and through a national, independent network of player development and psychological professionals.

Cousins missed round two after winning 19 possessions and kicking a goal in the Tigers' round one loss to Carlton. He had been in doubt for the opening game after being hospitalised twice after suffering unexplained stomach pains.

Alessio also said the AFLPA stood behind sacked Saint Andrew Lovett, whose grievance hearing has been postponed until his rape charge is heard.

“We'd always be there… in case he wants a confidential space to air his case.”

He said the AFLPA's support for the former Essendon midfielder was currently at the "operational/industrial" level as it supported Lovett's efforts to have his damages claim against St Kilda held independent of his criminal charges.

“I think it goes towards just basic player's rights… just the ability to have that (grievance) heard,” Alessio said.

He indicated the Lovett issue would be raised when the collective bargaining agreement was next negotiated with the AFL.

“I think with any rule or issue come CBA time we'd be looking at them all…”

Alessio's association is out to contest the view that current AFL players were “jocks who don't have much of an idea.”

Alessio supported an article written by Richmond's AFLPA delegate Daniel Jackson in today's Age, in which Jackson said there was a “plethora of highly intelligent and well-qualified well AFL players in the community.”

“He (Jackson) makes some really good points in there. The players are an intelligent group and they can have a say on whatever the issue is,” Alessio said.

“This (weekly column) is one way for the players to give their views.”

AFL players are having their say every Wednesday in the The Age sport pages in the "Interchange" series of articles.

“I think there's certain incidents that happen with one player and the player group as a whole is tarnished with the same brush … there's fantastic people doing fantastic things out there.”

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/aflpa-backs-cousins-20100407-rraa.html
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Mr Magic on April 07, 2010, 04:53:42 PM
Have you ever thought that Ben has had enough and doesnt want to play anymore ?

Would't be at all surprised.
Must wake up every day and wonder why he's still playing.
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 07, 2010, 06:22:57 PM
Ben Cousins just needs to leave Richmond.

i am over Richmond having to deal with him and these rumours, this is not doing Richmond any favours and his recruitment was only a marketing objective.

So we should kick him out the door because of baseless rumours torch? Why? They are rumours

He should go not because he has been great for our cubs in showing them how to improve their training and preparation, hasn't done one thing wrong since he has been at our club and met every single requirement placed on him by the AFL.

But in your opinion torch he should go because gutter journalists and now a player manager sprout off innuendo and rumours without one shred of proof so that's a good enough reason. Great


You wouldnt find a more down to earth bloke actually.
You have your opinions, I have mine. Great fella is Ric :thumbsup


No he isn't a great fella to make such gutless comments and then try and retreat from them. You canned Caro for her binge drinking claims against Cuz. Ricky's innuendo is just as bad if not worse

But if you think that makes him a "great fella" good onya
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: tiger till i die on April 07, 2010, 06:25:36 PM
Have you ever thought that Ben has had enough and doesnt want to play anymore ?

Would't be at all surprised.
Must wake up every day and wonder why he's still playing.

One word "Money"
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 07, 2010, 06:58:51 PM
Have you ever thought that Ben has had enough and doesnt want to play anymore ?

Would't be at all surprised.
Must wake up every day and wonder why he's still playing.

One word "Money"


You are correct. $$$$$$$$$$
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: FNM on April 07, 2010, 07:13:49 PM
WGAF at what motivates him.
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WA Tiger on April 07, 2010, 08:21:47 PM
 :sleep :sleep :sleep :sleep :sleep :sleep :sleep :sleep
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: blaisee on April 08, 2010, 12:11:03 AM
My mail has nothing to do with Ben being off the rails( as I what I have PM people).

Might just add,Ricky Olenrenshaw is terriffic bloke actually.
 :thumbsup

Have you ever thought that Ben has had enough and doesnt want to play anymore ?

so carazzo is a topliner and olerenshaw is a top bloke. olerenshaw should be stripped of his manager
accredication. Absolutely disgraceful behaviour.

Title: Players agents should butt out of media.... re: Olarenshaw (Mike in Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on April 08, 2010, 01:20:42 AM
Players agents should butt out of media
Mike Sheahan
Herald Sun
April 08, 2010


THE blatant conflict for AFL player agents who moonlight in the media first became evident when Ricky Nixon worked weekends for Triple M as an around-the-grounds man.

Given he managed the cream of the player group back then, one or two of whom had a propensity to create headlines, and given Triple M had a rich best-player award, Ray Charles could have spotted his conflict of interest.

Nixon lived with the cynicism for a while before walking away and saving himself the trouble.

We have learned to live with agent conflict in recent years, but Ricky Olarenshaw's extraordinary boot-in-mouth performance on radio on Tuesday has put the issue back on the agenda.

What on earth was he thinking when he told Gold FM and its tens of thousands of listeners that Ben Cousins "may have lost his way again"?

Given Cousins' history, that implied only one thing - that a self-confessed drug addict had suffered a relapse.

Yes, Olarenshaw was on Gold in his role as a quasi-media man but, primarily, he is an accredited player manager.

One of his clients happens to be Cousins' Richmond teammate Daniel Jackson, a member of the team's leadership group.

Given Jackson is Olarenshaw's only known link to Richmond, isn't it natural to assume the intelligence came from Jackson?

I don't believe it did, for Jackson is an intelligent young man with a strong sense of team and loyalty.

"I'm not one for gossip and rumours," Olarenshaw said, followed by the inevitable: "But ..."

He then proceeded to suggest Richmond left Cousins out of the team to play the Western Bulldogs last Sunday for reasons other than the declared knee soreness.

Then he warmed to his task. "There have been a lot of sightings of him out and about, with his behaviour a little bit erratic. He's been out with his shirt off and this sort of thing, and it's sad."

Surely Cousins wasn't the only one who got caught up in the spirit of the AC/DC concerts.

Olarenshaw's priorities in this case were Jackson's best interests (wearing his manager's hat) and fairness to Cousins (wearing his commentator's hat).

He had a non-negotiable obligation to check with Richmond before going to air, with any one of coach Damien Hardwick, a former teammate at Essendon; general manager of football Craig Cameron; football operations manager Ross Monaghan; or communications manager Jude Donnelly.

He is extremely fortunate Cousins (a) seems to ignore whatever the media says of him, and (b) doesn't have a manager like Paul Connors or Craig Kelly or ... Nixon.

The truth is no defence in this case. Even if Olarenshaw was on the money, allegations of such a serious nature demand he offer the right of reply to the subject or a representative of his club.

Given the AFL Players' Association licenses player agents and is charged with looking after the best interests of players, it would seem to have no alternative other than to call on Olarenshaw to explain.

The agents can say what they like, but they are conflicted when they work in the media.

Gary Ablett's manager Liam Pickering, who has radio and television commitments, gets his lines blurred.

When Geelong coach Mark Thompson was seen recently to prod Ablett on his intentions post-2010, Pickering publicly and clearly expressed his reservations.

Yet, he said Ablett had no problem with Thompson's words.

Doesn't it end there?

If his player isn't aggrieved, why should he be?

I enjoy the Pickering banter on Off the Bench on SEN 1116 on Saturday mornings, but I don't learn one thing about any of his clients, unless they are under attack.

Certainly don't hear anything about the plans (or thoughts) of the most talked about man in football, one G. Ablett.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/players-agents-should-butt-out-of-media/story-e6frf9ox-1225851125101
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Ramps on April 08, 2010, 04:50:30 AM
I still hope cousins sues olarenshaw just disgraceful stuff from olarenshaw
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 08, 2010, 07:19:15 AM
Have you ever thought that Ben has had enough and doesnt want to play anymore ?

Would't be at all surprised.
Must wake up every day and wonder why he's still playing.

One word "Money"


You are correct. $$$$$$$$$$

Who told you that the "great fella" Ricky or a different mail man

I would say after a conversation I had last year  ;) ;) ;) ( ;D) INCORRECT

 :gotigers
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: FNM on April 08, 2010, 07:41:56 AM
The "erratic" comment wasn't made by Olarenshaw.  It was made by Grubby after he saw Ben at a concert.  Olarenshaw followed up by saying yeah, he'd been hearing he's been out and about with his shirt off.
So to be fair to Olarenshaw, he didn't make these specific comments, but he did everything else and thought it was a "tragedy".
Well, the tragedy is Ben's been convicted and hung publicly again with no evidence  :banghead
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 08, 2010, 08:36:50 AM
Have you ever thought that Ben has had enough and doesnt want to play anymore ?

Would't be at all surprised.
Must wake up every day and wonder why he's still playing.

One word "Money"


You are correct. $$$$$$$$$$

Who told you that the "great fella" Ricky or a different mail man

I would say after a conversation I had last year  ;) ;) ;) ( ;D) INCORRECT

 :gotigers


I actually know Ric , and known his since childhood days
Take people as they treat you.
Nothing wrong with Ric.
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: FNM on April 08, 2010, 08:38:58 AM
Have you ever thought that Ben has had enough and doesnt want to play anymore ?

Would't be at all surprised.
Must wake up every day and wonder why he's still playing.

One word "Money"


You are correct. $$$$$$$$$$

Who told you that the "great fella" Ricky or a different mail man

I would say after a conversation I had last year  ;) ;) ;) ( ;D) INCORRECT

 :gotigers


I actually know Ric , and known his since childhood days
Take people as they treat you.
Nothing wrong with Ric.
Good blokes still have a duty not to slander people  ::)
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Owl on April 08, 2010, 08:45:18 AM
So somehow based on on Rick 'nightsoil' Olarenshaw's thus far, totally unsubstantiated, unproven, baseless parroting of a rumor, Jack, you somehow turn this around that Cousins is the money grubbing cynical lowlife?  Mind you he has kept schtum through the whole seedy debacle, while your great bloke has third hand slandered him clumsily, with all the appropriate caveats to be able to backpedal from any court action.  It's kinda of like throwing poo on someone in disguise so you can get out of jail free.  Now he did have some sort of feeble gig in doing comments in the media for the footy didn't he?  Is this his big attempt to get back in?  I would suggest epic fail if so.
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 08, 2010, 08:47:17 AM
Richo and Ricky are good friends
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Mr Magic on April 08, 2010, 09:07:47 AM
Richo and Ricky are good friends

So what carostar?
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: FNM on April 08, 2010, 09:16:37 AM
Richo and Ricky are good friends
You're really trying to sell this bloke lol
Unfortunately, we're not buying it, Jack
Big deal if Richo is his mate
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 08, 2010, 09:35:48 AM
Richo and Ricky are good friends
You're really trying to sell this bloke lol
Unfortunately, we're not buying it, Jack
Big deal if Richo is his mate

Nah, not at all.
Amazing the club still say that Ben missed through a knee injury last week ::)
Although the Media Manager doesnt know why he didnt play ::)
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: FNM on April 08, 2010, 07:38:16 PM
Wonder if the Herald Sun with get stuck into Jon Anderson like they do our Ben
Interesting to see how they treat one of their own ;D
Will they be camped outside his house watching his every move?
I THINK NOT!
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: mightytiges on April 08, 2010, 07:51:41 PM
Wonder if the Herald Sun with get stuck into Jon Anderson like they do our Ben
Interesting to see how they treat one of their own ;D
Will they be camped outside his house watching his every move?
I THINK NOT!

The Burly man wants to know if all the pizzas escaped intact.
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Smokey on April 08, 2010, 08:31:32 PM
Wonder if the Herald Sun with get stuck into Jon Anderson like they do our Ben
Interesting to see how they treat one of their own ;D
Will they be camped outside his house watching his every move?
I THINK NOT!


For the geographically disadvantaged among us FNM, please elaborate?
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Infamy on April 08, 2010, 09:01:42 PM
Wonder if the Herald Sun with get stuck into Jon Anderson like they do our Ben
Interesting to see how they treat one of their own ;D
Will they be camped outside his house watching his every move?
I THINK NOT!


For the geographically disadvantaged among us FNM, please elaborate?
He blew 0.139 after driving his car through the front of a pizza shop.
The Herald Sun website has given it only 4 lines on their website

Quote
HERALD Sun reporter Jon Anderson was last night charged with drink driving and careless driving.
Anderson, 53, was charged after an accident in Glen Iris at 7.15pm where he crashed into a pizza shop.

No-one was injured.

He was taken to Malvern Police Station where he recorded a blood alcohol reading of .139
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: jackstar is back again on April 08, 2010, 09:04:30 PM
Pizzas on the run..
Takes Home Delivery to another extreme
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 08, 2010, 10:58:10 PM
Pizza the night after a binge helps you with your hangover. ;D
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Infamy on April 08, 2010, 11:14:18 PM
Pizza the night after a binge helps you with your hangover. ;D
Safer to get it delivered though
Title: Ricky rapped over Cuz claims (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on April 09, 2010, 05:27:42 AM
Ricky rapped
By Michael Warner
Fri 09 Apr 2010, Page 96


AFL Players' Union chief Matt Finnis says he worries that some people are willing Ben Cousins to lose his battle with drug addiction.

Finnis said he was disappointed with claims made by manager Ricky Olarenshaw that Richmond's Cousins had again lost his way.

``I think if Ricky had his time again, he would do it differently,'' Finnis said yesterday. ``I worry sometimes that people are almost willing him (Ben) to fail. It's pretty disappointing . . . it's fair to say that Rick has an idea of what we thought of it.''

Olarenshaw is today expected to apologise to Cousins on the same radio station he made the claims.
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: 2JD on April 09, 2010, 07:56:34 AM
I've got no problem with Ben appearing in public without his shirt lol :gobdrop
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Owl on April 09, 2010, 08:22:10 AM
I've got no problem with Ben appearing in public without his shirt lol :gobdrop
same as the missus, I have to take a broom to her if there is a shirtless shot in the paper, or she is like a cat with a cornered mouse..
Title: Re: Ricky rapped over Cuz claims (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Mr Magic on April 09, 2010, 09:13:50 AM
``I worry sometimes that people are almost willing him (Ben) to fail. It's pretty disappointing . . .

I think there's no doubt about this.
Society is a pretty sick place these days given it's fascination with watching celebrities who fall off the perch and make no mistake unfortunately Benny's footballing achievements are currently trailing a distant second in the papers to his celeb appeal. We've seen it all before.
Pretty disgusting how personal battles have become a source of entertainment for the masses.
The media has a lot to answer for in this regard but I guess there's a lot of people who've always loved the stuff show.
Olarenshaw is copping the stuff here but Caro started this recent wave of crap. She's wearing the ringmaster's hat. :P
Title: Ricky Olarenshaw apologises for Ben Cousins rumour (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on April 09, 2010, 02:25:53 PM
Ricky Olarenshaw apologises for Ben Cousins rumours

    * Finn Bradshaw & Eliza Sewell
    * From: Herald Sun
    * April 09, 2010 12:55PM



PLAYER agent Ricky Olarenshaw has apologised for broadcasting rumours about Ben Cousins.

Earlier this week, Olarenshaw - who works for Channel Seven on its Friday night broadcasts as well as representing several AFL players - said during his regular spot on radio station Gold FM that Cousins had gone off the rails and was considering walking away from the game.

The club denied the allegations, saying Cousins had missed their Round 2 loss to the Western Bulldogs with knee soreness, not for any other reason.

"On Tuesday I spoke on this program about some rumours than were circulating that Ben Cousins may have lost his way, and an announcement was imminent about his future," Olarenshaw said on Gold FM this morning.

"I spoke with Richmond Football Club and his management during the week and they assured me his knee problem kept him out of Round 2 and he is in a good place mentally and physically at the moment and there is no question about his future at the club.

"I apologise for airing those rumours and putting Ben Cousins and the Richmond Football Club unfairly in the spotlight and causing unnecessary upset to Ben."

Later this morning, Richmond coach Damien Hardwick said the club knows exactly what Cousins is up to and is happy with the veteran despite the rumours, MX reports.

"We take (the rumours) with a grain of salt to be perfectly honest," Hardwick said today.

"It’s been dealt with so we move on pretty quickly.

"We know exactly where Cuz is at and what he’s doing and we’re happy with the way he’s going at the moment.

"We just hope his onfield stuff can take care of itself and (he can) move forward from there."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ricky-olarenshaw-apologises-for-ben-cousins-rumours/story-e6frf9jf-1225851819849
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Penelope on April 09, 2010, 03:26:35 PM
Good to see some one in the media realise their mistake and deal with it.
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: Mr Magic on April 09, 2010, 03:52:35 PM
Hopefully this will be the end of the innuendo and invasiveness.
Title: Tigers back fit Ben Cousins (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on April 10, 2010, 06:33:04 AM
Tigers back fit Ben Cousins
Scott Gullan
Herald Sun
April 10, 2010



BEN Cousins will play tonight against Sydney and is an important part of Richmond's future.

That was the declaration yesterday from Tigers coach Damien Hardwick following another turbulent week for his veteran midfielder.

Earlier this week Cousins' fitness and long-term future was questioned on radio by player manager Ricky Olarenshaw, who said he "may have lost his way again".

The 31-year-old missed last week's game against the Western Bulldogs because of what the club said was a knee injury.

"He's trained well this week, which is pleasing," Hardwick said. "He'll play and hopefully he plays well for us. He's an important player for our side.

"He adds a lot of experience and he knows how to play the game and our young guys can learn a lot off him.

"What 'Cuz' does is actually provide great on-field leadership for us, which is really important at this stage of our young players' careers."

Earlier yesterday Olarenshaw apologised for broadcasting rumours about Cousins.

The former Essendon premiership player - who works for Channel 7 as well as representing several AFL players - said during his regular spot on radio station Gold FM that Cousins had gone off the rails and was considering walking away from the game.

"On Tuesday I spoke on this program about some rumours that were circulating that Ben Cousins may have lost his way, and an announcement was imminent about his future," Olarenshaw said.

"I spoke with Richmond Football Club and his management during the week and they assured me his knee problem kept him out of Round 2 and he is in a good place mentally and physically at the moment and there is no question about his future at the club.

"I apologise for airing those rumours and putting Ben Cousins and the Richmond Football Club unfairly in the spotlight and causing unnecessary upset to Ben."

Hardwick said the club was getting used to dealing with Cousins rumours.

"We know exactly where Cuz is at and what he's doing and we're happy with the way he's going at the moment," Hardwick said.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tigers-back-fit-ben-cousins/story-e6frf9jf-1225852063065
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: 3rogerd on April 10, 2010, 03:16:39 PM
Hopefully this will be the end of the innuendo and invasiveness.

dont bet on it...im sure there is more to come.
Title: Underworld figure John Kizon describes his mate Ben Cousins (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on April 11, 2010, 05:08:14 AM
Underworld figure John Kizon describes his mate Ben Cousins
Liam Houlihan
Sunday Herald Sun
April 11, 2010


UNDERWORLD kingpin John Kizon has defended mate Ben Cousins against claims the recovering drug addict suffered a relapse.

 Describing the partyboy footballer as "a guy with a big heart", the Melbourne-born WA crime identity talked of their close friendship and how he had tried to help Cousins.

"I spoke to a good mate of his about 10 minutes ago. He's good as gold," Kizon, pictured left, said. "He's a bit flat mentally that he keeps getting injured. He's been down in the dumps because of his injuries."

Player manager Ricky Olarenshaw claimed during the week Cousins "may have lost his way again ... there have been lots of sightings of him out and about with his behaviour a little bit erratic."

Cousins' management has denied the claim and Olarenshaw has apologised.

But Kizon, who features in Cousins's coming documentary, said he was pleased his mate no longer suffered his old drug problems.

"All we ever did is try to help him. All we've ever said is, 'Mate, listen, you're going down the wrong track, pull your head in or you'll get a kick in the guts'," Kizon said.

"But he's over 16. He's responsible for his own actions. How many times can you talk to a guy?

"I still speak to Ben occasionally."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/underworld-figure-john-kizon-describes-his-mate-ben-cousins/story-e6frf7jo-1225852226891
Title: Re: Tigers lash Ben Cousins relapse claim (Herald-Sun)
Post by: FNM on April 13, 2010, 09:36:57 AM
Anyone note the Herald Sun's double standards when it comes to their own "Pack of Fools"
They fobbed off the Jon Anderson story and let him write his own piece on it, and then compare today's front page.
 :banghead