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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: crannyvegas on July 26, 2010, 11:09:56 PM
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(http://i30.tinypic.com/xolaw6.jpg) vs (http://i30.tinypic.com/o9r0g3.jpg)
Perhaps the two most polarising players on the current RFC list. To me the ability to make and win finals could hinge on the ability of these two players being able to fulfill their potential. Richie came to the club with the expectation that he would become an elite integral part of this team. Dan came with a bag of attitude, but an unmistakable ability to play this game. Both have question marks over their mental application either on or off field.
If only one spot on the list was available to either of these players who would you choose?
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Put both in the back 6
hardwick likes good kicks behind the ball
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Put both in the back 6
hardwick likes good kicks behind the ball
I agree. Connors is better byt foot while Tambling has better evasion and leadership qualities. Both would be great assets off the half back line and moving up to the wings.
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I agree. Connors is better by foot
Connors is ordinary by foot. Massively overrated by the fans IMO.
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I agree. Connors is better by foot
Connors is ordinary by foot. Massively overrated by the fans IMO.
lol, get a clue...is a beautiful kick...for a fella <20 games he is travelling just right
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On current form, Connors!
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I agree. Connors is better by foot
Connors is ordinary by foot. Massively overrated by the fans IMO.
Are you serious or are you just taking the pee?! Connors would have to be the best low, penetrating kick in our side by a big margin. There are very few players that can kick it as far and with such a low trajectory in the whole competition let alone team. The only players that come close is Newman, Lids and (surprizingly to me) Morton.
Stripes
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Connors is ordinary by foot.
Certainly was on Saturday - 50 something % effieciency on the weekend
Massively overrated by the fans IMO.
Not by this little black duck :rollin
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I'm pretty confident that Connors fitness is the only issue and that once he gets that up to AFL standard he will be a solid player. I think his disposal is pretty pin point usually, but when he's tired he lets his opponent run off him, his disposal gets sloppy and he does more talking to the umpire than thinking about his own job.
That said, whether he has the desire and commitment to become an elite athlete is an open question.
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Connors is open to bagging but not on his kicking.
Oh for the good old days of the Rainesy bombs
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Connors- Will be a gun. Kicking exceptional
Tambling=JON
20 games vrs 100 games
enough said
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What was Tambling's preseason like?
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What was Tambling's preseason like?
Non-existant
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Are you serious or are you just taking the pee?! Connors would have to be the best low, penetrating kick in our side by a big margin. There are very few players that can kick it as far and with such a low trajectory in the whole competition let alone team. The only players that come close is Newman, Lids and (surprizingly to me) Morton.
Stripes
Not taking the pee. Connors has a very elegant looking kicking style, but the results are anything but elegant. All style no substance. Take a look at the footage and the net result of his kicks, it's not pretty.
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Put both in the back 6
hardwick likes good kicks behind the ball
I tend to think Tambling turns the ball over a little
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Connor's is way out in front for me.
Oh that's right I'm not a fan of Tambling.
So it is a one sided argument here with me, no matter who you put up.
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Are you serious or are you just taking the pee?! Connors would have to be the best low, penetrating kick in our side by a big margin. There are very few players that can kick it as far and with such a low trajectory in the whole competition let alone team. The only players that come close is Newman, Lids and (surprizingly to me) Morton.
Stripes
Not taking the pee. Connors has a very elegant looking kicking style, but the results are anything but elegant. All style no substance. Take a look at the footage and the net result of his kicks, it's not pretty.
I think Connors turnovers are caused by him still not being fit enough, disposal will never be as good when the player is fatigued.
Hopefully he stays off the booze over the preseason and busts his ass on the training track
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look at the games we have won ths year - did Connors kick the bal well?
Are you serious or are you just taking the pee?! Connors would have to be the best low, penetrating kick in our side by a big margin. There are very few players that can kick it as far and with such a low trajectory in the whole competition let alone team. The only players that come close is Newman, Lids and (surprizingly to me) Morton.
Stripes
Not taking the pee. Connors has a very elegant looking kicking style, but the results are anything but elegant. All style no substance. Take a look at the footage and the net result of his kicks, it's not pretty.
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Are you serious or are you just taking the pee?! Connors would have to be the best low, penetrating kick in our side by a big margin. There are very few players that can kick it as far and with such a low trajectory in the whole competition let alone team. The only players that come close is Newman, Lids and (surprizingly to me) Morton.
Stripes
Not taking the pee. Connors has a very elegant looking kicking style, but the results are anything but elegant. All style no substance. Take a look at the footage and the net result of his kicks, it's not pretty.
I think Connors turnovers are caused by him still not being fit enough, disposal will never be as good when the player is fatigued.
Hopefully he stays off the booze over the preseason and busts his ass on the training track
I didn't know Tambling had an issue with alcohol.
Sorry read this wrong you are talking about Conners.
:bow
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What was Tambling's preseason like?
Non-existant
Yeah? If so, then there is no way we should be letting him go. A full preseason is just so important these days. The players do virtually nothing during the season — sure, some have modified programs to address individual issues, but if you don't get a full preseason, then you can expect to have an ordinary year.
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Connors is ordinary by foot.
Certainly was on Saturday - 50 something % effieciency on the weekend
Massively overrated by the fans IMO.
Not by this little black duck :rollin
67% but you were close. It was 50 the week before but i think you will find that because he opts to kick so much that it brings his efficiency down...
WP you're an unabashed Tambling fan, what do you see his ultimate role for the side being? I would love to see him as our flashy outside player who plays up the offensive side of the ground. Perhaps with a full preseason he could up his speed??
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Not taking the pee. Connors has a very elegant looking kicking style, but the results are anything but elegant. All style no substance. Take a look at the footage and the net result of his kicks, it's not pretty.
It isn't all about the kicking efficiency stats. Nathan Buckley used to have more clangers and a lower efficiency than you would expect, but that was because he was often kicking over 40m and thus statistically less likely to hit the mark.
With some players, you are willing to put up with some kicks that miss the mark because the ones that do hit are damaging. Believe me, the coaching staff, with a player like Connors, would be looking at Richmond goal/scoring movement involvements versus goals/scores against from direct turnovers from his foot and seeing if that comes up acceptably positive. If he is involved in 4 or 5 SOG a game, and gives up a couple the other way, then they will wear that. He would know exactly what stats he needs to achieve.
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Put both in the back 6
hardwick likes good kicks behind the ball
Agreed. Tambling should be our small back.
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Do we still all think Connors can kick or have we moved across to the dark side.
All sizzle and no sausage!
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Over to the dark side
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Over to the dark side
then call me Darth
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Yes master
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Over to the dark side
then call me Darth
Oooiiii
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By the way, its Connor's inconsistent ball drop which is the problem there, the left hand grips and the ball tilts which mistimes the kick. Other than that he is very left sided.
Tambling is more of a spoon scoop action where he will miss 25 to 35 metre targets cos he drops the hips and uplifts to compensate.
Would hope that these 2 guys can make an impact in the next 2 years or otherwise they would be classified as list cloggers. Tambling is maligned however IMHO is worth a further 2 seasons before a delist.
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tambling all the way
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both should be given the stuff and traded out of Punt Rd
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I am just happy to see more joining me on the dark side re Connors
:rollin :rollin
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Both appear to be in danger of delisting but have a feeling the Club won't delist either this year. Fully concede I may be totally wrong
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Both appear to be in danger of delisting but have a feeling the Club won't delist either this year. Fully concede I may be totally wrong
tambling is safe
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If Tambling is safe then we really are going nowhere as a club
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Tambling for me, He holds his booze better than Conners ;D
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Neither whipping boy will be going anywhere- there is half team below them in the pecking order.
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Over to the dark side
then call me Darth
Oooiiii
haha sorry call me Vaider then :P
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If Tambling is safe then we really are going nowhere as a club
best post of the year so far, thank you Rolls
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neither will be traded,
connors in particular is safe as houses
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neither will be traded,
connors in particular is safe as houses
are we gonna get anyone decent from another club this year Blaisee?
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connors V tambling..now theres a bout between 2 real heavyweights.
wouldnt give a pack of twisties for either of them at this stage
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I agree. Connors is better by foot
Connors is ordinary by foot. Massively overrated by the fans IMO.
lol, get a clue...is a beautiful kick...for a fella <20 games he is travelling just right
would disagree ordinary about sums him up by foot and decision making especially under pressure.
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I agree. Connors is better by foot
Connors is ordinary by foot. Massively overrated by the fans IMO.
lol, get a clue...is a beautiful kick...for a fella <20 games he is travelling just right
would disagree ordinary about sums him up by foot and decision making especially under pressure.
To be fair, I thought he was ordinary a few weeks ago. Lately he simply stinks.
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neither will be traded,
connors in particular is safe as houses
are we gonna get anyone decent from another club this year Blaisee?
only if it can be done in the pre season draft
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What did everyone think of Connors today.
Can't understand the change in him over the last six or so games.
Personally dragged down our kicking efficiency when everyone else was hitting targets. The number of long bombs into the forward line after waiting for the Saints defense to flood was really impressive.
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What did everyone think of Connors today.
Can't understand the change in him over the last six or so games.
Personally dragged down our kicking efficiency when everyone else was hitting targets. The number of long bombs into the forward line after waiting for the Saints defense to flood was really impressive.
Dan was the same old Dan = SELFISH (just look at that "effort" on the wing :banghead)
But hey the coach loves him
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His kicking was very poor. He was lazy. He just kicked without thinking. Kicks never went to our advantage. Was very unimpressed. Should be dropped.
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His kicking was very poor. He was lazy. He just kicked without thinking. Kicks never went to our advantage. Was very unimpressed. Should be dropped.
Agree. His kicking was disgraceful yesterday.
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yesterday leigh matthews gave Dan a descent rap...thought he had a future.....just cant see what he sees,but hey he's leigh mathews and i'm not
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His kicking was very poor. He was lazy. He just kicked without thinking. Kicks never went to our advantage. Was very unimpressed. Should be dropped.
Agree. His kicking was disgraceful yesterday.
I would argue (strongly) that it's been like that all year but can get hidden away when things are going well (read you're winning) compared to when things aren't going well.
As I said before and I will say it again he is a very selfish player
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His kicking was very poor. He was lazy. He just kicked without thinking. Kicks never went to our advantage. Was very unimpressed. Should be dropped.
He is a pretty good kick but you have nailed the problem - "He doesn't think". Just slings his legs across his body and hopes. Also dislike his addiction to the '70s dummy sell. Players just run straight at him and his farkt.
He does has talent but needs to get fit.
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I think Connors goes on the list of "need another year" to make a call. Becasue we have such a high number of new players this year (14 from memory) that list is getting very long and thats why we wont be to good next year either. The year after will be the big turnover of players if they dont come up to scratch.
Both Dan and Richard have another year.