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Title: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 10, 2010, 12:10:41 PM
Tigers look to rattle Blues' finals run
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen
Tue 10 August, 2010



THE CHANCE to make mischief with Carlton's finals aspirations will be just one of the subtexts bubbling beneath the surface when Richmond clashes with the Blues at the MCG on Saturday afternoon.

Carlton is in sixth place on the AFL ladder and have a better percentage than the sides below them.

However, with Melbourne and North Melbourne hovering just outside the eight, the Blues are by no means assured of September action.

They face a tough road home, with Richmond, Geelong and Fremantle - at Subiaco - to come, so this week is a vital game.

Round one 2008 was the last time the Tigers beat their bitter rival and the Blues will take heart from the recent record between the sides.

Richmond captain Chris Newman said the side had not forgotten those performances.

"They've put out some really good performances the last couple of times, and we've been really disappointing," he said at St Kilda beach on Tuesday morning.

"It's another opportunity to get one back on them, and show them how far we've come from the start of the season.

"It's a nice opportunity to play a rival team that draws a really big crowd and a big stage, so I think it’s an exciting time."

While the second game of each of those seasons has been far closer, Newman was quick to point out the differences from a week ago, when Carlton surged home over the Bombers like a tidal wave, kicking 10 goals to one, while the Tigers were outscored six goals to two when the match was on the line.

“I think it’s going to be a huge challenge for the group - last week Carlton absolutely annihilated Essendon late in the game, and we fell away, so it’s obviously a huge area of improvement that we’ve got to show this week.”

Newman also said that there was plenty more to be gained before the season ended, underlining Richmond's aim of winning its remaining matches.

“There’s still a huge amount of respect and belief to be got out of the last three weeks - there’s obviously still 12 points to be had, too,” he said.

“We’ve got a hell of a lot of work to do with a whole range of areas, so for the supporters’ sake, to be going out there and giving ourselves every possible chance to win the game, I think it’s really important.

“I think putting four quarters together throughout the year has been a bit of a challenge for a young group, but I think that we’re making steady progress.”

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/100022/default.aspx
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 10, 2010, 05:45:42 PM
QUESTION MARKS
Can Richmond find some support for Jack Riewoldt in the forward line?
Last weekend against Melbourne, the Tigers had 11 more inside-50s yet lost by five goals. Damien Hardwick tried Luke McGuane, Will Thursfield and Shane Tuck next to Riewoldt in attack, but they had little impact on the contest. This week he’ll need to find a plan D.

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
While there isn’t a whole lot more talent in the Carlton team when compared to the emerging Tigers, the simple fact is that the Blues have more to play for. The prospect of sewing up their place in the finals should be enough to inspire a winning performance.

PREDICTION
Carlton by 33 points

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/100081/default.aspx
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: mightytiges on August 10, 2010, 09:31:25 PM
The Blues small forwards - Betts and Gartlett - are the main concern. They had a day out against us in round 1 IIRC when everyone was wondering where the Blues would get their goals without Fev. It's been a weakness of ours for a long time trying to quell the opposition's quick goal-smart small forwards. See Milne and the other week with Leon Davis.

Scoreboard pressure is the other issue. We can't find ourselves down by 5 goals at quarter time as we've done the past 3 times we've played them. The Blues are very good frontrunners and a confidence side once they have a decent lead.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: tiger till i die on August 10, 2010, 09:50:20 PM
QUESTION MARKS
Can Richmond find some support for Jack Riewoldt in the forward line?
Last weekend against Melbourne, the Tigers had 11 more inside-50s yet lost by five goals. Damien Hardwick tried Luke McGuane, Will Thursfield and Shane Tuck next to Riewoldt in attack, but they had little impact on the contest. This week he’ll need to find a plan D.

WHO WILL WIN AND WHY
While there isn’t a whole lot more talent in the Carlton team when compared to the emerging Tigers, the simple fact is that the Blues have more to play for. The prospect of sewing up their place in the finals should be enough to inspire a winning performance.

PREDICTION
Carlton by 33 points

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/100081/default.aspx

Morton up foward? webberly? what about dusty see how he goes up foward i bet he can relive some pressure on Reiwoldt
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Penelope on August 11, 2010, 08:17:18 AM
Hardwick said there no place in the modern game for forwards of the ilk of Morton, thus the move up the ground.

I think he is looking for the taller type of forward to work in tandem with Jack rather than midsized.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: richmondrules on August 11, 2010, 10:49:18 AM
QUESTION MARKS
Can Richmond find some support for Jack Riewoldt in the forward line?
Last weekend against Melbourne, the Tigers had 11 more inside-50s yet lost by five goals. Damien Hardwick tried Luke McGuane, Will Thursfield and Shane Tuck next to Riewoldt in attack, but they had little impact on the contest. This week he’ll need to find a plan D.

Griffiths was a huge loss and very important to our structures and the team going forward. It is no coincidence that we won every game he played and Jack kicked an absolute poo-load with him around. He didn't kick a bag of goals but there is no doubt he knows how to play in the forward line. A very clever player. Positions himself well and will draw players away from the contest. You rarely saw both Jack and Griff going for the same mark or getting in each others way. Jack would have loved having him there. Hopefully his shoulders will be OK because he is going to be a ripper. I'm really excited about this kid.

We really need another KPF as a back up to both Griff and Jack.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: eliminator on August 11, 2010, 02:30:47 PM
totally agree
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: smasha on August 11, 2010, 05:58:43 PM
Depth will come in a few years.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: tiger till i die on August 11, 2010, 07:05:54 PM
QUESTION MARKS
Can Richmond find some support for Jack Riewoldt in the forward line?
Last weekend against Melbourne, the Tigers had 11 more inside-50s yet lost by five goals. Damien Hardwick tried Luke McGuane, Will Thursfield and Shane Tuck next to Riewoldt in attack, but they had little impact on the contest. This week he’ll need to find a plan D.

Griffiths was a huge loss and very important to our structures and the team going forward. It is no coincidence that we won every game he played and Jack kicked an absolute poo-load with him around. He didn't kick a bag of goals but there is no doubt he knows how to play in the forward line. A very clever player. Positions himself well and will draw players away from the contest. You rarely saw both Jack and Griff going for the same mark or getting in each others way. Jack would have loved having him there. Hopefully his shoulders will be OK because he is going to be a ripper. I'm really excited about this kid.

We really need another KPF as a back up to both Griff and Jack.

The only one i can think of is Tuck?
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Lozza on August 11, 2010, 08:01:32 PM
The only one i can think of is Tuck?
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I realise this maybe right out of left field but why couldnt we experiment with Gourdis in the forward line as a foil for Jack? At least it gets him in the team and he is athletic enough at ground level to apply forward pressure.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: tiger till i die on August 11, 2010, 08:45:08 PM
The only one i can think of is Tuck?

I realise this maybe right out of left field but why couldnt we experiment with Gourdis in the forward line as a foil for Jack? At least it gets him in the team and he is athletic enough at ground level to apply forward pressure.
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should try that if we start gettng smashed but.. give credit to the blues they won't care if we put him up there they will just focus on Jack like all teh other teams have .. we need a goal threat .. so Morton tuck or collins ?
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: mat073 on August 11, 2010, 10:21:09 PM
Over here in Perth we do not get the Richmond/Carlton game live.....infact the earliest I can watch it is MIDNIGHT :banghead :banghead

I would normally get on the 3aw website and listen to the game  however I believe we might now live in an age where you can watch the game live on the net. :pray

Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Penelope on August 12, 2010, 08:10:44 AM
There are a couple of sites about that people stream sports on. justin dot tv used to have AFL games , not sure if they still do as the AFL were trying to prevent it from happening.

Someone posted another site on here a while back that also has people stream AFL games but i cant remember what it was, sorry.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: tiga on August 12, 2010, 02:02:43 PM
Why don't we try and utilise the resting ruckman for this. I think both Gus and Browne are capable of marking and kicking goals or even Vickery as a permanent forward.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: richmondrules on August 12, 2010, 02:49:46 PM
It's not just a case of being tall and standing in the forward line. You need to understand how to play the position. When to stay down and block. How to block without giving a free away. When to lead and where to lead, hopefully dragging a few defenders with you.

Jacks being double, triple, quadruple teamed at the moment. If a player can lead away from Jack and take a defender or 2 with him, or if the defenders stay with Jack then that should leave the player reasonably open. Then it's a matter of the rest of the team being smart enough to look ahead and spot the unmarked man in the open. A couple of times being caught out and the opposition is going to take a bit more notice of you leaving Jack potentially 1 on 1 and we know he's a good contested mark.

It worries me when I see Jack taking a contested mark and the player most likely to spoil him is his own team-mate. I've seen this a couple of times recently.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 12, 2010, 03:05:33 PM
There are a couple of sites about that people stream sports on. justin dot tv used to have AFL games , not sure if they still do as the AFL were trying to prevent it from happening.

Someone posted another site on here a while back that also has people stream AFL games but i cant remember what it was, sorry.
Justin tv is notorious for losing it's link! The afl catch on and the link is severed!
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Penelope on August 12, 2010, 03:17:19 PM
How? Do they hack it? Denial of service attack?
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Smokey on August 12, 2010, 04:07:16 PM
I watched the North game a few weeks back via a JustinTV link that I found through Googling on the morning of the game.  It took a bit of digging around before I found it and turned out to be a relay of a UK TV feed (funny watching all the UK ads).  It was occasionally jerky on my slower connection but very watchable all the same.  First time I had ever had to resort to that but I will do it again in a heartbeat if I get stuck.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: mat073 on August 12, 2010, 04:55:23 PM
I watched the North game a few weeks back via a JustinTV link that I found through Googling on the morning of the game.  It took a bit of digging around before I found it and turned out to be a relay of a UK TV feed (funny watching all the UK ads).  It was occasionally jerky on my slower connection but very watchable all the same.  First time I had ever had to resort to that but I will do it again in a heartbeat if I get stuck.

Thanks Al and Smokey,I will give Justin tv a try on Saturday.Its not every day an Irish man debuts for Richmond. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 13, 2010, 04:40:24 AM
Bookies Odds (luxbet.com)

Richmond   $3.45
Carlton      $1.32

Line at 21.5 points


"Experts" tips:

The Age:  2-22 ...... Richo tipped us
H-Sun:    3-17 ...... Ablett and Mark Robinson  :o have tipped us
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 13, 2010, 01:34:00 PM
CARLTON assistant coach Brett Montgomery also talked down comments made by Richmond coach - and former Port Adelaide teammate - Damien Hardwick.

Hardwick said yesterday he thought the Tigers would gee themselves up for a clash against one of their traditional rivals.

But the Blues assistant coach said he felt otherwise.

"I’m not sure where he gets that from, he hasn’t been there all that long," Montgomery said.

"Certainly he did as a player, no doubt about it, and if he can get that across to his players we’ll be in for a real tough, tight contest. But that remains to be seen."

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-assistant-coach-brett-montgomery-admits-power-talks/story-e6freck3-1225904851347
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: 3rogerd on August 13, 2010, 08:07:45 PM
hit em hard, this mob are soft. :thumbsup

Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 12:56:44 PM
A bit blowy which may make goalkicking a bit tougher but fine and bright sunshine here in Melbourne.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Danog on August 14, 2010, 02:14:01 PM
Beautiful pass by Edwards
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 02:26:43 PM
Blues getting on top. 5 - 10 inside 50s  :-\. Lucky they are missing

7 - 10
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 02:30:09 PM
Lids on Henderson  :-\ and Lids not being a key defender gets beaten.

Lids then gets pinged for a free against for waving a towel in the face. You are a joke umpire  :banghead

7 - 17
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 02:33:03 PM
What's wrong with Connors today? Sheesh talk about making a dumb mistake with every possies  :help.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 02:35:36 PM
We've been 8 times inside 50 for just 1 possession  :help

Lucky the Blues are missing.

8 - 18
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 02:38:16 PM
Morton on Judd. Not really working as Judd will still get the ball while it nullifies Morton's influence.

Just as I say that Morton does well peeling off lol and King goals.

14 - 24
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 02:42:21 PM
Gourdis to O'Reilly. Newbies looking after each other  :thumbsup

Lids shocking kick misses Post  :scream

1/4 time

Richmond   2.2-14
Carlton      3.7-25


Goals: Jackson, King.


It'd be nice one day to have a good first quarter against the Blues  :banghead.

Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: mightytiges on August 14, 2010, 02:45:24 PM
Nice kick and then run and receive by O'Reilly. Shows he is starting to understand the game.

We've had more of the ball even though the Blues have been on top but it's been all kick and mark. No flow on footy whatsoever so it's too slow.

Lids and Connors need to start the game again  :-\. A better game from Nason today after looking tired the past few weeks.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 02:48:26 PM
Possies:

Tuck     8
Connors 8
Gourdis  8
Nason    7
Edwards 7
Cousins  7
Morton   6
Moore    6
Lids       6
Martin    5
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 02:50:30 PM
Kingy has hurt his left ankle and is taken into the rooms. Was that his bad ankle?

Point to Blues.

14 - 26
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: mat073 on August 14, 2010, 02:54:05 PM
Nothing more painful than getting towelled up by the Blues....God I hate them.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: mightytiges on August 14, 2010, 02:56:42 PM
Nothing more painful than getting towelled up by the Blues....God I hate them.
Yep a training drill for them today. we're getting smashed and can't get our hands on the footy accept in the bakcline where we are always  pressure.   :help.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: mightytiges on August 14, 2010, 03:02:35 PM
This could be a 80 point flogging today. We're flooding now to try and stop the bleeding.

Can't afford to miss our few chances either  :-\
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: mightytiges on August 14, 2010, 03:13:01 PM
Is there are mercy rule? Sheesh we just look like a side who doesn't care and just wants the season to end. 22 witches hats.

Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 03:15:05 PM
Cuz off with a lower leg injury and in the rooms. Tops off a 'great' day  :(
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: mat073 on August 14, 2010, 03:16:51 PM
Thats it...Im done for today.This is too bloody painful  :banghead.I would rather pick up all the dog poo in the back yard that listen to this.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: wayne on August 14, 2010, 03:19:46 PM
Thats it...Im done for today.This is too bloody painful  :banghead.I would rather pick up all the dog poo in the back yard that listen to this.

Yeah i've just turned the radio off as well. I don't think i've heard a Richmond player called for the last 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 03:21:41 PM
Kingy has started a melee lol. Players running off the bench.


1/2 time

Richmond   2.2   2.3-15
Carlton      3.7  10.12-72

Goals: Jackson, King


Pathetic!
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 03:25:38 PM
Possies:  166 - 204  ..... we had 10 more possies at 1/4 time which says it all.

Tuck      16
Connors 16
Gourdis   13
Deledio   12
Edwards  12
Cousins   11
Astbury   11


Jack has had just the one handpass  :(


Frees:  8 - 15
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on August 14, 2010, 03:29:21 PM
I think they've forgotten how to tackle.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: mightytiges on August 14, 2010, 03:42:22 PM
When you're getting flogged everyhting goes against you. Betts dragged that underneath Kingy and Kingy gets pinged.


Hooray we got a goal. Gus get our first in about 50 minutes.

21 - 78
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 03:46:21 PM
Matty White injured leg too. Came back on after missing most of the 2nd qtr but has gone off gaain.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 03:52:37 PM
27 inside 50s to just 5 since quarter time.

To half-time we had 49 marks inside defensive 50 to Carlton's 14.


Nice kick by Astbury and Jack finally gets a touch. Goal.

27 - 93

Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 03:55:43 PM
Jack's got it again. The Coleman is the only thing left that's interesting today. Misses bugger.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: wayne on August 14, 2010, 03:58:41 PM
Yeah all I want out of this game is for Jack to kick 3-4 goals and keep some interest in watching Richmond for the next 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 03:58:55 PM
Collo goal from a free.

Lucky there as Gus was open yet we went ot Jack covered.

34 - 94
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 03:59:34 PM
Cuz nice goal. Here's the comeback  ;D

40 - 94
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 04:02:05 PM
Postie makes it 4 in a row

46 - 94
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 04:12:13 PM
We won the quarter lol.

Morton 11 disp., Connors 9 and Cuz were best that quarter.


3/4 time

Richmond   2.2    2.3     7.5-47
Carlton      3.7  10.12  14.17-101

Goals: Jack, Collo, Cuz, Gus, Post, Jacko, King

Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Ramps on August 14, 2010, 04:15:52 PM
For what its worth I thought the Greek has shown very good potential today. Could develop really well at FB. Mind you I switched out at half time, so I dont know how hes gone in the 2nd half. He is a definate retain based on his 1st half IMHO.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: mightytiges on August 14, 2010, 04:27:38 PM
Hard to tell anything from today. It seems we pumped ourselves up for last week as our last hoorah for the year and we didn't care about today. Today was first 6 rounds stuff.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 04:29:14 PM
Martin's trademark fend off for a goal and Nason follows it up with a great long kick from 50m.

59 - 119
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: mightytiges on August 14, 2010, 04:37:03 PM
Jack's got 2 now so 3 ahead in the Coleman.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 04:43:48 PM
Blowing out over 80 points now  :help

Gus off after copping friendly fire (knee into the midrift).
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2010, 04:51:52 PM
Out of our misery. 9 goal last quarter to Carlton :chuck

Final Score

Richmond    2.2    2.3    7.5     10.7-67
Carlton       3.7  10.12  14.17  23.18-156

Goals:  Riewoldt 2, Collins, Cousins, King, Jackson, Nason, Martin, Post, Graham
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Ramps on August 14, 2010, 04:52:29 PM
last quarter just disgraceful - our r1 date with carlton in serious doubt I reckon, we could be up against the Suns in R1.

The same players always peter out at some point in the season. To many hard triers, to many who lack class, to many not up to it.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: mat073 on August 14, 2010, 04:54:27 PM
What an absolute debarcle.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: taztiger4 on August 14, 2010, 04:55:46 PM
What an absolute debarcle.

Like your spelling !!!

cheers Taz
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: mightytiges on August 14, 2010, 05:04:50 PM
last quarter just disgraceful - our r1 date with carlton in serious doubt I reckon, we could be up against the Suns in R1.
I was thinking the same thing. The AFL won't like us starting against Carlton if everytime we play them we get flogged by 10-15 goals  :help. The only redeeming fact is they have finals to play for whereas we had nothing and we played accordingly. Zero intensity and pressure today whereas for round 1 next year with something to play for you'd hope we'd at least put up a fight.

Opposition sides have worked out to target our few good users of the footy. Shut down Lids and Newy across half-back and we are easy to shut down. We need a whole heap of class across the park before we will improve. Triers only get you so far.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Ramps on August 14, 2010, 05:06:39 PM
concerning that HArdwick has said its a shallow draft - we have to cut about 10 blokes and bring in new players from the draft, hopefully we can find some players.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: tony_montana on August 14, 2010, 05:09:48 PM
last quarter just disgraceful - our r1 date with carlton in serious doubt I reckon, we could be up against the Suns in R1.
I was thinking the same thing. The AFL won't like us starting against Carlton if everytime we play them we get flogged by 10-15 goals  :help. The only redeeming fact is they have finals to play for whereas we had nothing and we played accordingly. Zero intensity and pressure today whereas for round 1 next year with something to play for you'd hope we'd at least put up a fight.

Opposition sides have worked out to target our few good users of the footy. Shut down Lids and Newy across half-back and we are easy to shut down. We need a whole heap of class across the park before we will improve. Triers only get you so far.

nothing like a good reality check. That was incredibly frustrating, non competitive players just had enough as the season draws to a close
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Gigantor on August 14, 2010, 06:39:47 PM
to say i was frustrated with one particular player is an understatement...D connors really cheesed me off today..His disposal was atrocious..he needs to stop NOW being a smart alec with the pill...do the dour team things Dan
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: tony_montana on August 14, 2010, 06:43:43 PM
to say i was frustrated with one particular player is an understatement...D connors really cheesed me off today..His disposal was atrocious..he needs to stop NOW being a smart alec with the pill...do the dour team things Dan

I'm glad more and more ppl are starting to see this fraud for what he currently is! Connors is a very selfish footballer and for a supposedly skilledand talented player, his skills are very very ordinary.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 14, 2010, 08:07:00 PM
concerning that HArdwick has said its a shallow draft - we have to cut about 10 blokes and bring in new players from the draft, hopefully we can find some players.

ill tell you whats scary Ramps is pre game on triple M, the Gypsy president Brayshaw asked March about our cull at the end of season and he was very quick to talk down any more than the normal 3 or 4 delistings.

He said after last years 14 or so i would think its very unlikely we would get rid of any more than 4.

That is unnaceptable IMO and such a move would cement many more years near the bottom for us.

The cattle we have can only take you so far
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: harry bosch on August 14, 2010, 08:29:17 PM
So both march and dimma suggested minimal changes? looks like they are trying to soften us up..
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: tony_montana on August 14, 2010, 08:30:22 PM
concerning that HArdwick has said its a shallow draft - we have to cut about 10 blokes and bring in new players from the draft, hopefully we can find some players.

ill tell you whats scary Ramps is pre game on triple M, the Gypsy president Brayshaw asked March about our cull at the end of season and he was very quick to talk down any more than the normal 3 or 4 delistings.

He said after last years 14 or so i would think its very unlikely we would get rid of any more than 4.

That is unnaceptable IMO and such a move would cement many more years near the bottom for us.

The cattle we have can only take you so far


if thats the case, then i flat out will lose th rest of the little faith i have remaining in this club. There are 7-9 no-brainer changes that are as clear as day...
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 14, 2010, 08:32:15 PM
concerning that HArdwick has said its a shallow draft - we have to cut about 10 blokes and bring in new players from the draft, hopefully we can find some players.

ill tell you whats scary Ramps is pre game on triple M, the Gypsy president Brayshaw asked March about our cull at the end of season and he was very quick to talk down any more than the normal 3 or 4 delistings.

He said after last years 14 or so i would think its very unlikely we would get rid of any more than 4.

That is unnaceptable IMO and such a move would cement many more years near the bottom for us.

The cattle we have can only take you so far


if thats the case, then i flat out will lose th rest of the little faith i have remaining in this club. There are 7-9 no-brainer changes that are as clear as day...

Straight out of March's mouth i nearly three my I phone when i heard it.

I just hope he doesnt have a clue about list management and it was purely opinion based, but it sounded like they are fair dinkum.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: jackstar is back again on August 14, 2010, 08:40:58 PM
today was day that we seen who can play, we cant, and who wont make.
Would be trading Connors, had a gutfull of him.
Hicks is just way too small.
Opposition just push him away, and his defensive pressure , well ? running around in circles aint defensive pressure.
pathetic effort today.
thank god we had no 32 and 21 out there
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: jackstar is back again on August 14, 2010, 09:12:12 PM
reading this thread and others , it amazes me how many actually dont go to the games
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 14, 2010, 09:20:08 PM
last quarter just disgraceful - our r1 date with carlton in serious doubt I reckon, we could be up against the Suns in R1.

The same players always peter out at some point in the season. To many hard triers, to many who lack class, to many not up to it.

The best thing to happen to our football club is that pig demetriou gives that game to somebody else.

we dont deserve it and honestly i dont want it anymore.

Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: yellowandback on August 14, 2010, 09:29:34 PM
Reading this thread and others, it amazes me how many posters come out on this forum when we lose games to bag the club
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 14, 2010, 09:41:06 PM
Reading this thread and others, it amazes me how many posters come out on this forum when we lose games to bag the club

if you read my posts i do applaud when we win games but this was no ordinary loss as Dimma pointed out.

I accept we are young and raw but to dish up that today was unnaceptable and if March is right in that he said we will only be delisting a max of 4 players then we are stuffed.

too many toothpicks and Jockey impersonators on our list.

Once more clean out Dimma please :pray

Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Ramps on August 14, 2010, 09:42:48 PM
reading this thread and others , it amazes me how many actually dont go to the games

If people pay for a membership they are entitled to go or not go and still have an opinion jacko! At least they have forked out money to the club and stuff out for raffles and other bits and pieces.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: jackstar is back again on August 14, 2010, 09:45:00 PM
am just amazed that of the 44,000 there today, the Richmond numbers were very very poor.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Ramps on August 14, 2010, 09:46:37 PM
Im more concerned that the club looks like they dont want to cut the list cloggers and no hopers and only get rid of like 4 or 5 players 1 of which looks like its Cousins. Its wrong list management - 100% wrong! Richmond could get rid of at least 10 blokes before Cousins goes IMHO!
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: jackstar is back again on August 14, 2010, 09:48:34 PM
reading this thread and others , it amazes me how many actually dont go to the games

If people pay for a membership they are entitled to go or not go and still have an opinion jacko! At least they have forked out money to the club and stuff out for raffles and other bits and pieces.

Might also say that most of the abuse i get is from non attending posters ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Tigermonk on August 14, 2010, 11:18:07 PM
That was a reality check. 5 years behind Carlscum  :banghead
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: RollsRoyce on August 15, 2010, 12:12:49 AM
to say i was frustrated with one particular player is an understatement...D connors really cheesed me off today..His disposal was atrocious..he needs to stop NOW being a smart alec with the pill...do the dour team things Dan

Daniel Connors was absolutely abysmal today. He had the Midas touch in reverse , because everything he touched turned to s#*t! Carlscum scored an avalanche of goals directly from his turnovers all day long.
If the selection committee is fair dinkum,he should be the first player dropped next week after that pathetic performance.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: jackstar is back again on August 15, 2010, 06:49:25 AM
keep playing him and trade him at years end.
he looks like a V8 car but has the motor of a two stroke Victa lawn mower, two stroke being appropriate :lol
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 15, 2010, 07:37:19 AM
keep playing him and trade him at years end.
he looks like a V8 car but has the motor of a two stroke Victa lawn mower, two stroke being appropriate :lol
Have you had sex with him?
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Gigantor on August 15, 2010, 09:07:36 AM
jack i hate to say it but Connors really gives me the impression that he's brainless out there..some of the audacious things he trys are fine in theory i guess but Geez all mighty they can absolutely destroy a team
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: jackstar is back again on August 15, 2010, 09:16:10 AM
keep playing him and trade him at years end.
he looks like a V8 car but has the motor of a two stroke Victa lawn mower, two stroke being appropriate :lol
Have you had sex with him?

Nah, not compatable, I use four stroke in my lawn mower, :lol
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: jackstar is back again on August 15, 2010, 09:18:14 AM
jack i hate to say it but Connors really gives me the impression that he's brainless out there..some of the audacious things he trys are fine in theory i guess but Geez all mighty they can absolutely destroy a team


From what I see, he breaks most team rules on the ground.
And by the size of his fat folds he now has, he is breaking rules off the ground as well ::)
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Gigantor on August 15, 2010, 09:53:26 AM
jack i think Post gives me the impression of a lazy footballer..many instances yesterday he showed no interest in the ball and more the argy bargy...better second half though although a hell of a long way to go
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: jackstar is back again on August 15, 2010, 10:04:04 AM
jack i think Post gives me the impression of a lazy footballer..many instances yesterday he showed no interest in the ball and more the argy bargy...better second half though although a hell of a long way to go

We are in a bad situation , we have ''too many "' players who we rolll the dice with and hope they will come good.
Most clubs do it, would take the punt on Post due to his ability to leap and sometimes look the part.
Guys like Hicks who is way too small and  not worth the risk.
Get rid of Connors, he aint going to make it, forget about what the club say, have a look at his guts and his inability to improve his endurance, enough said
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Ramps on August 15, 2010, 10:12:52 AM
I can't see it in Post, I reckon hes a VFL footballer at the moment. Needs to find massive improvement. Showing very little Im afraid.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Gigantor on August 15, 2010, 10:18:20 AM
probably get lynched here but i think i have gourdis stamped ,as see ya later as well
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: jackstar is back again on August 15, 2010, 10:22:55 AM
probably get lynched here but i think i have gourdis stamped ,as see ya later as well

I actually agree, why ? doesnt seem quick enough leg speed wise and decision making wise.
Can read the play although Waite towelled him in simple situations where he just had to put a fist in but couldnt because he was that half a metre away from it.
Sorry but I agree, as i dont want to be 15th in 2011
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Gigantor on August 15, 2010, 10:27:28 AM
slow football brain is what struck me..lol
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: eliminator on August 15, 2010, 02:36:11 PM
From the match I got the following we need a small crumbing forward which so far we can't find. We need a centre half back. We need a ruckman who can take a contested mark and need a foil for Jack. I think the foil for Jack is Griffiths. I hope that Taylor is the x factor up forward we need but we desparately need a quality small forward. I hope Graham develops into a ruckman that can take a big contested grab.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Chuck17 on August 15, 2010, 03:17:22 PM
Like it or lump it what we got now is practically it for a few years with the compromised drafts.

If we got rid of all the players you jokers want to we would only end up with half a team.

As for 2011 don't hold your breath, getting way ahead of yourselves, its all about getting games into the youngsters and developing them right.
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 15, 2010, 04:53:23 PM
to say i was frustrated with one particular player is an understatement...D connors really cheesed me off today..His disposal was atrocious..he needs to stop NOW being a smart alec with the pill...do the dour team things Dan

I'm glad more and more ppl are starting to see this fraud for what he currently is! Connors is a very selfish footballer and for a supposedly skilledand talented player, his skills are very very ordinary.

 :bow :bow

It really does warm ny heart to have people finally seeing what I see  ;D

jack i hate to say it but Connors really gives me the impression that he's brainless out there..some of the audacious things he trys are fine in theory i guess but Geez all mighty they can absolutely destroy a team


 :clapping :clapping

Daniel Connors was absolutely abysmal today. He had the Midas touch in reverse , because everything he touched turned to s#*t! Carlscum scored an avalanche of goals directly from his turnovers all day long.
If the selection committee is fair dinkum,he should be the first player dropped next week after that pathetic performance.

Just yesterday  ???

Been doing it all season but IMHO these sorts of things get overlooked when you are winning - that's what happened with Connors for most of the year. Howeve, now that we've got thumped again the turn overs, the lairising (sp?), the selfishness shows out in a massive way

From what I see, he breaks most team rules on the ground.And by the size of his fat folds he now has, he is breaking rules off the ground as well ::)

That's why I constantly refer to him as a selfish footballer - he doens't do the team things

Yesterday was the worst his been in 2010  


Can I say it  ;D ;D

I TOLD YA SO
:thumbsup :thumbsup

Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: tiger till i die on August 15, 2010, 05:24:21 PM
to say i was frustrated with one particular player is an understatement...D connors really cheesed me off today..His disposal was atrocious..he needs to stop NOW being a smart alec with the pill...do the dour team things Dan

I'm glad more and more ppl are starting to see this fraud for what he currently is! Connors is a very selfish footballer and for a supposedly skilledand talented player, his skills are very very ordinary.
what u havent said  is taht he is a bad player .. he has massive talent so we need to work out that bads and fill them with the goods :) i say alot of good runs from him during the day but the negtives were in more numbers
 :bow :bow

It really does warm ny heart to have people finally seeing what I see  ;D

jack i hate to say it but Connors really gives me the impression that he's brainless out there..some of the audacious things he trys are fine in theory i guess but Geez all mighty they can absolutely destroy a team


 :clapping :clapping

Daniel Connors was absolutely abysmal today. He had the Midas touch in reverse , because everything he touched turned to s#*t! Carlscum scored an avalanche of goals directly from his turnovers all day long.
If the selection committee is fair dinkum,he should be the first player dropped next week after that pathetic performance.

Just yesterday  ???

Been doing it all season but IMHO these sorts of things get overlooked when you are winning - that's what happened with Connors for most of the year. Howeve, now that we've got thumped again the turn overs, the lairising (sp?), the selfishness shows out in a massive way

From what I see, he breaks most team rules on the ground.And by the size of his fat folds he now has, he is breaking rules off the ground as well ::)

That's why I constantly refer to him as a selfish footballer - he doens't do the team things

Yesterday was the worst his been in 2010  


Can I say it  ;D ;D

I TOLD YA SO
:thumbsup :thumbsup


Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: tony_montana on August 15, 2010, 06:21:27 PM
I actually agree, why ? doesnt seem quick enough leg speed wise and decision making wise.
Can read the play although Waite towelled him in simple situations where he just had to put a fist in but couldnt because he was that half a metre away from it

Turn it up Jackstar, he might be slow decision making wise but in legspeed he's unbelievably quick. Quicker than Lids over the first 20 metres
Title: Re: Tigers vs Blues game thread
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 15, 2010, 09:29:01 PM
probably get lynched here but i think i have gourdis stamped ,as see ya later as well

I actually agree, why ? doesnt seem quick enough leg speed wise and decision making wise.
Can read the play although Waite towelled him in simple situations where he just had to put a fist in but couldnt because he was that half a metre away from it.
Sorry but I agree, as i dont want to be 15th in 2011

deserves to play the remaining 2 games Jack. Did show enough IMO and was no way near our worst player in fact id say he was one of our best.

I mean whats the alternative mcguane. Please give me a spell. I hope he is GC bound but i feel we are stuck with him for another 2 years.