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Title: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 01, 2011, 11:36:14 PM
Please explain how this is a St kilda free kick.

If you are being tackled it does not count as pressure?
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on April 01, 2011, 11:39:08 PM
It's horsesh|t that's what.
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: wayne on April 01, 2011, 11:44:47 PM
Umpires sucked in, overwhelmed on the big stage.  :banghead
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: TigerLand on April 02, 2011, 12:01:21 AM
Tonight was the worst umpired game I've ever seen.

Gwilt's deliberate out of bounds was horrible.
Holding the ball against all night was a lottery
Morton's Mark disallowed pathetic, how any of the 3 umpires couldn't see it is pathetic.
McGuanes rushed behind is blatant incorrect interpretation of the rule and the reason why the umpiring industry are hated.


The rushed behindrule is pointless to start with, if your under pressure you can rush it. When does anyone rush a behind that isn't under pressure, you could argue Joel Bowden walking the ball back over the line was under pressure as the man on the mark was running at him. Disgusting rule. Regardless the interpretation of the rule was 100% wrong.
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on April 02, 2011, 12:04:00 AM
Tonight was the worst umpired game I've ever seen.

Holding the ball against all night was a lottery

The rushed behindrule is pointless to start with, if your under pressure you can rush it.

Number 12 your veal parmagana is ready  >:(
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: RedanTiger on April 02, 2011, 12:09:53 AM
Interesting that a St Kilda player handballed a point 3 or 4 minutes later but of course no free kick at goal.
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: cub on April 02, 2011, 12:10:43 AM
Umpys cost us no doubt and saints are a joke
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 02, 2011, 12:12:51 AM
Interesting that a St Kilda player handballed a point 3 or 4 minutes later but of course no free kick at goal.

well said.
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on April 02, 2011, 12:13:27 AM
Saints are a joke with no punchline. Effing flacid cocks.

Not even worth existing.

In 12 months time they'll be pushing it to be top 8
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: TigerLand on April 02, 2011, 12:14:21 AM
I expect an apology from Jeff.

Tonight as good as the officiating was an absolute circus.

56 free kicks, is pathetic
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on April 02, 2011, 12:15:02 AM
Unleash the quiche
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: RedanTiger on April 02, 2011, 12:44:59 AM

In 12 months time they'll be pushing it to be top 8

If Hayes has done the knee as badly as it looks that may be his career over at 31.
May not make the eight this year.
Think Collingwood, Bulldogs, Geelong, Hawthorn, Sydney, Essendon, Adelaide, Fremantle that's eight before you get to Carlton, North and Melbourne.   
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 02, 2011, 12:56:12 AM
i just wanna kill those maggots
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 02, 2011, 02:32:23 AM
Terrible umpiring.
By the letter of the law Luke McGuane was under pressure and he rushed the behind. Where is the breaking of the rules there. To further cloud the issue the tackling player was Archer yet the free was given to RIewoldt because he was closer to the goals than what Archer was. Another grey area.

How was Morton not paid a mark in the third and I just can't think of any more after a combination some quality p1$$ tonight and the current time.

It's these little things that just make people turn off this game of ours due to the lack of comprehension and inconsistencies in interpreting the rules. Maybe just maybe if AA and his cohorts at AFL House try to justify their over inflated salaries by making money for the league rather than changing the rules every few weeks or months we would have an umpiring fraternity that know the rules and a umpiring fraternity that is not as despised as it us. Bring back World of Sport and What's Your Decision lets see how they justify it. ::) :-\ >:(
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: mightytiges on April 02, 2011, 04:43:49 AM
We should as a Club make a formal complaint to Giesch. The AFL has continually stated since they brought in the new rule that if your under pressure it's not deliberate. 

Tonight was the worst umpired game I've ever seen.

Gwilt's deliberate out of bounds was horrible.
Holding the ball against all night was a lottery
Morton's Mark disallowed pathetic, how any of the 3 umpires couldn't see it is pathetic.
McGuanes rushed behind is blatant incorrect interpretation of the rule and the reason why the umpiring industry are hated.
Add Jason Blake's one arm throw 15m out from our goal in the 3rd quarter which wasn't paid along with Fisher from memory placing the ball on the turf when tackled. Last I knew both should be obvious frees against for illegal disposal  ::).
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: 1965 on April 02, 2011, 06:39:02 AM
Unleash the quiche

Occasionally you are clever and funny without needing to resort to schoolboy crassness.

This was one of those rare occasions.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: Go Richo 12 on April 02, 2011, 08:45:08 AM
We should as a Club make a formal complaint to Giesch. The AFL has continually stated since they brought in the new rule that if your under pressure it's not deliberate. 

Tonight was the worst umpired game I've ever seen.

Gwilt's deliberate out of bounds was horrible.
Holding the ball against all night was a lottery
Morton's Mark disallowed pathetic, how any of the 3 umpires couldn't see it is pathetic.
McGuanes rushed behind is blatant incorrect interpretation of the rule and the reason why the umpiring industry are hated.
Add Jason Blake's one arm throw 15m out from our goal in the 3rd quarter which wasn't paid along with Fisher from memory placing the ball on the turf when tackled. Last I knew both should be obvious frees against for illegal disposal  ::).
You took the words out of my mouth, MT!
The saints continually placed the ball on the ground whilst being tackled and tapped it away, now that is dropping the ball! The one armed throw's were when the player had no proir opportunity but it is still a throw!
Those lack of decisions making cheesed me more than McGuanes rushed behind!
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: bojangles17 on April 02, 2011, 09:09:12 AM
was an appalling decision, i understood the rule that allowed for a rushed if the player was under pressure...the dozy umpire was fooled because he was 10metres out, rather than on the line...and spot earlier with that play in 3 or 4th qtr with saints paddling the ball up in the air spilling out of tackle , was plain obvious...Poor night from umps after a pretty good one in R 1  :o
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: Ekto on April 02, 2011, 09:15:35 AM
It will be interesting to read the lame excuse that Geishan cames up with for that one........NOT.
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: Penelope on April 02, 2011, 09:16:57 AM
Three certainies in life;
taxes, death and when Richmond dont win people will sook on this forum about the umpiring.

Yes, the mcguane decision was terrible, and there were a few otherw as well, but overall we got a reasanble run with the umps.

our players make many more poor, costly decisions than the umpires and they get paid a lot more.
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: one-eyed on April 02, 2011, 06:36:07 PM
The AFL has admitted the McGuane deliberate rushed behind free was wrong.

A bit late now Jeff  ::)
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: Smokey on April 02, 2011, 07:08:37 PM
The AFL has admitted the McGuane deliberate rushed behind free was wrong.

A bit late now Jeff  ::)

Any apology for the Morton mark OE?
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: mightytiges on April 03, 2011, 12:46:51 AM
The AFL has admitted the McGuane deliberate rushed behind free was wrong.

A bit late now Jeff  ::)

Any apology for the Morton mark OE?
I don't believe there was smokey. The Morton mark that wasn't was simply a mistake by the ump who thought it had bounced first. Whereas the ump who paid the free against McGuane didn't understand the rule. Even Leigh Matthew on the coverage who is on the rules committee apparently didn't know if it was a free or not commentating live. That gives you confidence about the rules doesn't it  :P.
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: Ox on April 03, 2011, 01:00:18 AM
The AFL has admitted the McGuane deliberate rushed behind free was wrong.

A bit late now Jeff  ::)

I want to get Geischen in a small room and tie him to a chair.

Over the course of 5 weeks i will inject him with A Grade pure Smack (starting with a gram a day),feed him kfc and prune juice,allowing him,"standing time" for a period of no more than 1 hour a day.

At the end of this fruitful period he shall be released back into the offices of the AFL umpires association,where hopefully he'll die in a pile of his own poo and highly toxic bodily fluids
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on April 03, 2011, 01:29:05 AM
LMAO  :lol
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 03, 2011, 02:42:54 AM
In seriousness

Who ever Is in charge up the refs these
dys deserves. To experience some form of punishment. 

The AFL has admitted the McGuane deliberate rushed behind free was wrong.

A bit late now Jeff  ::)

I want to get Geischen in a small room and tie him to a chair.

Over the course of 5 weeks i will inject him with A Grade pure Smack (starting with a gram a day),feed him kfc and prune juice,allowing him,"standing time" for a period of no more than 1 hour a day.

At the end of this fruitful period he shall be released back into the offices of the AFL umpires association,where hopefully he'll die in a pile of his own poo and highly toxic bodily fluids
Title: Umps: We were wrong against Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on April 03, 2011, 06:02:09 AM
Umps: We were wrong against Richmond
Rod Nicholson
Sunday Herald Sun
April 03, 2011


THE AFL has admitted umpire Scott Jeffery made a mistake when he awarded a free kick against Richmond defender Luke McGuane in the draw with St Kilda at the MCG on Friday night.

AFL media manager Patrick Keane said the umpires' department conceded the error, which cost Richmond a goal late in the tense final term.

"McGuane was under immediate pressure and is allowed to defend in that situation. The umpire made a mistake," Keane said.

McGuane handballed the ball through the posts when about to be tackled with the Tigers a goal in front at the time.

The decision changed the momentum of the game.

It was not McGuane's night. He must defend a report for a head-high bump on Saint Farren Ray after being reported.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/umps-we-were-wrong-against-richmond/story-e6frf9jf-1226032586531
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on April 03, 2011, 08:19:31 AM
Scott Jeffrey should be put into stocks and peeed on outside our game against hawthorn.

10 buck entry fee.

Money towards the ftf.

Everyones a winner.
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: RollsRoyce on April 03, 2011, 08:36:32 AM
Scott Jeffrey should be put into stocks and peeed on outside our game against hawthorn.

10 buck entry fee.

Money towards the ftf.

Everyones a winner.

Great idea Dooks! I'll be there with rotten tomatoes, tinned of course :lol
(Disturbing avatar by the way :) )
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: TigerTimeII on April 03, 2011, 09:28:10 AM
Scott Jeffrey should be put into stocks and peeed on outside our game against hawthorn.

10 buck entry fee.

Money towards the ftf.

Everyones a winner.

lets put one of those dentist moth pieces in his mouth so it cant shut, and all scat in his mouth , and then wash it down first with pee then petrol and light a match
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: eliminator on April 03, 2011, 02:28:43 PM
Agree with Pope. Morton clearly took that mark. Anyone could see that. Umpiring amateur at best. Fisher threw the ball in the3 or 4th quarter and it was play on. Pathetic
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: 2JD on April 03, 2011, 08:29:28 PM
What a classy bunch we have become
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: 1965 on April 03, 2011, 08:32:38 PM
What a classy bunch we have become

supporters, players on OERers

 ???
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: Mr Magic on April 04, 2011, 08:05:58 AM
Anyone else see Jake King almost get decapitated up forward in the last couple of minutes and not get a free kick? :wallywink
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on April 04, 2011, 12:46:03 PM
Scott Jeffrey should be put into stocks and peeed on outside our game against hawthorn.

10 buck entry fee.

Money towards the ftf.

Everyones a winner.

lets put one of those dentist moth pieces in his mouth so it cant shut, and all scat in his mouth , and then wash it down first with pee then petrol and light a match
Dookie wholeheartedly endorses this product and/or concept.
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: Penelope on April 04, 2011, 05:45:22 PM
From Hardwick himself
Quote
Much has been made of a couple of umpiring decisions, which went against us at crucial stages of the
match, but those sort of things are the 'uncontrollables' that occur in a game of football.

Umpires make mistakes, just as players do.  Sometimes the mistakes go your way, sometimes they
don't.   Unfortunately, it wasn't our night, but we'll move on because you can waste your energy
focusing on that stuff and it's certainly not going to help us beat Hawthorn next Saturday night.

thank stuff those that count can get over it and get on with the business at hand
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: RedanTiger on April 04, 2011, 06:28:10 PM
From Hardwick himself
Quote
Much has been made of a couple of umpiring decisions, which went against us at crucial stages of the
match, but those sort of things are the 'uncontrollables' that occur in a game of football.

Umpires make mistakes, just as players do.  Sometimes the mistakes go your way, sometimes they
don't.   Unfortunately, it wasn't our night, but we'll move on because you can waste your energy
focusing on that stuff and it's certainly not going to help us beat Hawthorn next Saturday night.

thank eff those that count can get over it and get on with the business at hand

Lovely backhanded way of reminding umpires how they screwed us ahead of Hawks match.
Nice move Dimma. :clapping
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 04, 2011, 09:57:27 PM
Very succint message to the umpires from Dimma, was McGuane's lesser suspension another way from the AFL apologising to us for that decision on Friday or will the umpiring fraternity get a directive from the Quiche that whoever is rostered on Saturday night give the Tigers the rub of the green.  :shh
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: mightytiges on April 04, 2011, 10:01:12 PM
LOL at the AFL's own DVD example on what isn't a deliberate rushed behind being far more deliberate than what McGuane did  :wallywink.
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 04, 2011, 10:02:05 PM
LOL at the AFL's own DVD example on what isn't a deliberate rushed behind being far more deliberate than what McGuane did  :wallywink.

Yep saw that on One week at a time. Murphy was on hardly any pressure compared to McGuane.
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: Willy on April 04, 2011, 10:08:51 PM
the only time a player would want to rush a behind is when he is under pressure. The rule does not make sense to me.  :(
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: mightytiges on April 05, 2011, 12:34:37 AM
the only time a player would want to rush a behind is when he is under pressure. The rule does not make sense to me.  :(
It's another stupid rule change but the initial reason given by Anderson for bringing in the change was to stop players giving up a point under no pressure so their side could set up again from the kick-in. Basically what Hawthorn did in the 2008 GF and what Joel did walking through points to run down the clock. It wasn't meant to ping players for what backmen have done under pressure since the year dot. The rule is pretty simple to understand as if there's pressure it's not deliberate but the problem most of the rules committee and umpire #29 on Friday night still don't understand the rule and how it works. That sure gives us footy supporters confidence doesn't it :P.
Title: Re: Last 1/4 free kick - rush behind.
Post by: gerkin greg on April 05, 2011, 11:40:40 AM
I want to get Geischen in a small room and tie him to a chair.

Over the course of 5 weeks i will inject him with A Grade pure Smack (starting with a gram a day),feed him kfc and prune juice,allowing him,"standing time" for a period of no more than 1 hour a day.

At the end of this fruitful period he shall be released back into the offices of the AFL umpires association,where hopefully he'll die in a pile of his own poo and highly toxic bodily fluids

LMFAO

Visions at the end of that fruitful period of him wearing a see-through jumpsuit he's made out of refresher towels, skull cap and cod piece fashioned from fried chicken skin, Dimitirou's steamed dim sim gimp ready for banquet