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Title: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: one-eyed on September 25, 2011, 03:36:36 AM
Next up is Shane Edwards.

Shane played 20 games in his fifth season of AFL to take his career tally to 89. He was injured and taken off early on in the round 8 clash against the Dogs and subsequently missed round 9 and 10 before returning after the bye against the Swans. Shane had 20+ possessions on five occasions in 2011 with a year high of 25 against the Pies in round 4.


          Games  Disposals  Marks  Tackles    G.B      1st   Clear.   In50   R50    1%ers
2007:    16         10.3       3.4       2.2     11.7
2008:    16         11.6       2.9       1.9     12.11
2009:    15         12.6       2.3       2.0       5.3   
2010:    22         18.8       2.8       3.5       7.8
2011:    20         16.1       3.3       3.2       4.12     1.6    1.8      2.6     0.9      3.4

http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1728&SeasonID=ALL
http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=2007109


How did we all rate Edwards' year?
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Chuck17 on September 25, 2011, 03:42:51 AM
*Chucky ducks for cover*
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Smokey on September 25, 2011, 07:09:27 AM
Gave Shane a 6.  Thought he does a fair bit of unnoticed good work in and around the packs but then completely stuffs up his good work and value to the team with some of the worst disposal mistakes you see on an AFL ground, on an all too consistent basis.  Needs to remove those glaring skill errors from his game if he is ever going to be classed as a good player.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on September 25, 2011, 07:19:32 AM
5.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Penelope on September 25, 2011, 07:33:20 AM
Gave Shane a 6.  Thought he does a fair bit of unnoticed good work in and around the packs but then completely stuffs up his good work and value to the team with some of the worst disposal mistakes you see on an AFL ground, on an all too consistent basis.  Needs to remove those glaring skill errors from his game if he is ever going to be classed as a good player.

I think that sums him up pretty well smokey.

The thing i have noticed about shane in the last two years is that he seems to be a touch player.

While some players play well when fresh, shane seems to one who needs game time to find form.

Last year his pre season was atrocious as but as the year went on he got better and better.

This year he his pre season was hampered badly by shoulder surgery which meant he was not involved in contact work for much of the pre season and then missed those games from rnd 8.

It took him untill deep in the season before he started to get his inside work going and reduce those shocking disposals.

Needs a good pre season if he stays on the list ( which he probably will) so he can hit the ground running at the start of the year.

Neither shane himself or the club can afford another half season of his worst.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Damo on September 25, 2011, 08:22:16 AM
4.

Reason. 5 is a pass mark. And I think he needs to do more. I also believe he can do more.



Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Francois Jackson on September 25, 2011, 09:36:29 AM
2
Bases on 2 games he did okay in. The rest were on par with the worst I've seen

Would trade him back to Adelaide in a heart beat in a direct swap Collins type deal




Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: WilliamPowell on September 25, 2011, 09:51:19 AM
Gave Shane a 6.  Thought he does a fair bit of unnoticed good work in and around the packs but then completely stuffs up his good work and value to the team with some of the worst disposal mistakes you see on an AFL ground, on an all too consistent basis.  Needs to remove those glaring skill errors from his game if he is ever going to be classed as a good player.

Agreed and gave the same

His good is very good his average is poor

Overall I thought he'd improve on last year or at least equal it and in too many games he didn't.

Finally think the club needs to make a call on what h's best position is a a keep him there
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: eliminator on September 25, 2011, 02:16:35 PM
Agree with comments "Thought he does a fair bit of unnoticed good work in and around the packs but then completely stuffs up his good work and value to the team with some of the worst disposal mistakes you see on an AFL ground, on an all too consistent basis.  Needs to remove those glaring skill errors from his game if he is ever going to be classed as a good player." He is also a poor kick at goal. Would give him a 5
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: J Buckthorn on September 25, 2011, 02:28:42 PM
Gave him a 9. Excellent year, very damaging some games. Minor kicking deficiency, other wise a great season
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Chuck17 on September 25, 2011, 02:29:54 PM
5. The thing about sheds clangers are usually he has weaved through heavy traffic, made it into the clear and you go you beauty a goal assist coming up here and then this huge shank or worm burner gets unleashed
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Owl on September 25, 2011, 03:22:35 PM
I gave him a 7.  I like Sheds, I think he has more up than down and could be something special if he can clean up the disposal issue.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Coach on September 25, 2011, 03:32:50 PM
Gave him a 9. Excellent year, very damaging some games. Minor kicking deficiency, other wise a great season

:lol
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Chuck17 on September 25, 2011, 04:06:27 PM
Gave him a 9. Excellent year, very damaging some games. Minor kicking deficiency, other wise a great season

:lol

Didn't know it was out of 20 I will move my score uP to a 10
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: bojangles17 on September 25, 2011, 04:19:10 PM
5/10 if we could swap him for dangerfield or gunston, id certainly consider it
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Coach on September 25, 2011, 04:25:06 PM
5/10 if we could swap him for dangerfield or gunston, id certainly consider it

:lol
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: WA Tiger on September 25, 2011, 05:51:43 PM
Not even going to bother scoring him, simply must be traded, what we have seen of Edwards is about as good as it's going to get...IMO
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: J Buckthorn on September 25, 2011, 05:55:25 PM
I think people are forgetting how good some of his best games have been.

Yes, his disposal can be questionable at times, but I think it is fair and reasonable to say it's only a minor issue.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: T_o_O on September 25, 2011, 06:27:37 PM
5.5 from me.
Overall a disappointing year and I have been a staunch supporter.
Many forget he had a vastly interrupted pre season with shoulder surgery which may have been a reason for his poor start. Ended the year off much better but still was somewhat unconvincing.

Edwards biggest problem has always been consistency. He is capable of genius but equally makes fundamental mistakes that undoes much of his good work. Frustrating player.
Personally I can see why Dimma has persevered as Shane is a damn hard worker both ways and is well liked in the playing group. However the clock is ticking on his career and he needs to tighten up the difference between his best and worst in a real hurry.

He has one more season to do it IMO..
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Gigantor on September 25, 2011, 06:51:44 PM
However good all the other facets of his game are ,his disposal just rips it all appart
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 25, 2011, 07:38:45 PM
lol, he has two 10's :o :o ;D Buckthorn, are you responsible for this sham :lol :lol
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: gerkin greg on September 25, 2011, 07:58:23 PM
i gave him a 1 and that point was for his aboriginal grandmother
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 26, 2011, 12:03:26 AM
Gave him a 9. Excellent year, very damaging some games. Minor kicking deficiency, other wise a great season

I wouldn't call his momentum killing kicks and some of those misses at goal as a minor kicking deficiency.
Memo the Collingwood game and the Gold Coast game. How about his speccy against Essendon only to kick the ball 5 metres to a teammate who was tackled dispossessed and resulted in a goal. Watch them with both eyes not one.

Needs bulk a bigger tank and to do some gut running instead of prancing through games.
Just another pee wee flanker brought to the club by Wallet that gets monstered by the better opponents.


Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Owl on September 26, 2011, 08:04:21 AM
Gave him a 9. Excellent year, very damaging some games. Minor kicking deficiency, other wise a great season

I wouldn't call his momentum killing kicks and some of those misses at goal as a minor kicking deficiency.
Memo the Collingwood game and the Gold Coast game. How about his speccy against Essendon only to kick the ball 5 metres to a teammate who was tackled dispossessed and resulted in a goal. Watch them with both eyes not one.
Needs bulk a bigger tank and to do some gut running instead of prancing through games.
Just another pee wee flanker brought to the club by Wallet that gets monstered by the better opponents.

I think you may have made your mind up a long time ago and are not looking with both eyes yourself Tucker, I have seen him give good fend offs, ride some hits weave through tackles and win his own ball.  He is small and agile, if you start 'bulking him up' he will lose his agility, he is very quick off the mark which I have seen again and again when he intercepts marks or swoops on the ball meant for opposition players.  This is his job, not long distance running or brazillian jujutsu ala Tucky winning the hard ball on the deck against 3 opposition players.  He plays his role well for the most part just needs to tidy up the disposal and not spend it too early, he is quite capable just rushes it because he thinks he has to but they will beat that out of him soon.  He also doesn't shirk a contest where he probably knows he is gonna get himself a smack from a bigger bloke either so give the bloke some credit.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on September 26, 2011, 02:34:44 PM
The calm before the storm........ ;D
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Coach on September 26, 2011, 03:42:04 PM
Owl loves mediorce players
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: gerkin greg on September 26, 2011, 03:42:50 PM
and mediocre posters.
Hi Owl  :-*
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Owl on September 26, 2011, 04:36:48 PM
GO ALL IN!
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Owl on September 26, 2011, 04:37:37 PM
Geez I hang it all out there and no one bites
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on September 26, 2011, 04:41:42 PM
Owl,
The kid is a C grade AFL standard footballer at best and would not get a game on a regular basis in a top 4-6 club.
Unfortunantely for the most part it is players like Edwards who seem to evoke the "passion" among supporters and unfortunantely it is players like him that get given about 150 games at our club b/c we have such a poor list.
Has been in the system for 5 seasons and there are still many facets of hius game where he is still struggling. Had a very poor first half of the year and a few late season wins by the club glossed over his poor season IMHO.
Just another token undersized flanker brought to Punt Rd by the Wallace era.

As for the Brazilian Jujitsu maybe he should save it for a post AFL career.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Loui Tufga on September 26, 2011, 05:07:36 PM
Geez I hang it all out there and no one bites

Sorry Owl, I only read posts that are no longer than two lines 8) 8) I get bored and loose interest otherwise :laugh:
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: tony_montana on September 26, 2011, 07:10:12 PM
I was patient and a fan of edwards up until this season. I knew he came to the club with a massive tank and was a potential elite gut runner in the making. Last season he improved from seasons past and I thought my faith was justified when many were calling for his head. He completely lost me in the first 10 weeks of this season, was borderline diabolical at times -  we need to get rid of halfway there players like edwards he will never reach great heaights and isnt even solid b grade material bc he is so erratic with his ridiculous unforced gumby errors. 3 and being generous!
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Mr Magic on September 27, 2011, 12:56:54 PM
Good to see a fair bit of support for Shane. Hopefully has a great 2012.
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Coach on September 27, 2011, 02:37:11 PM
Dont tell me you're a Shed fan. He kicks the ball to the opposition more than Tucky and the funny thing is that he's not even under pressure when doing it
Title: Re: Rate a Tiger's year - 10. Shane Edwards?
Post by: Mr Magic on September 27, 2011, 04:32:56 PM
Dont tell me you're a Shed fan. He kicks the ball to the opposition more than Tucky and the funny thing is that he's not even under pressure when doing it

I'm a Hardwick fan and the coach rates him, that I know.

There is no comparison with Tuck. Tuck wins harder footy no doubt but he's not as good with the football as Eddy despite his odd shank.
Shane also works hard two ways. There is still room for improvement in his game and I think it will come. Alternatively Tuck is what he is by now.