One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 21, 2011, 06:05:05 AM
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Richmond's Damien Hardwick is also in that category, but will have his contract extended before Round 1.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/settled-season-likely-for-afl-coaches/story-e6frf9jf-1226172373377
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And I expect an extension of Cameron's contract will be announced at the same time, with the purpose of getting everyone to focus on the high profile coach extension.
Same as with the delistings of players and development coaches, no-one looked very hard at the coaches. All attention on the players.
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Good job, need to extend his contract and stick to the plan...well done Tiges, well done Damien.
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I am in the process of clarifying the legal issues that determine when a SGM must be called.
Once that is done I will begin to collect the required number of members signatures to call a SGM with all board positions declared vacant.
More information will follow shortly............
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Thanks TBR much appreciated :cheers
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Great move.
More infighting :help!
When will people learn to let the club continue it's journey without every Tom, Dick or Harry deciding it knows best. Don't waste your energy! Put your energy to much better use. The reasons we have been so poo for so many years are diverse. But instability must rank right up there.
Hardwick came in and practically has brought in a new team over the past 2 years. The new blood that has come in has begun to perform sporadically. He is improving and learning as a coach. The team is playing for him. FFS players are leaving clubs to be at Richmond because of the Hardwick factor. With limited resources and funding he has put us on the road to sustained success. As long as we continue improving albeit slowly, I'm right behind Dimma. Even if it means we have to take a step or two back to take 5 steps forward, I'm happy to support the board.
It really takes 7 to 8 years to build a premiership side (yeah I know there are always exceptions) but Dimma is trying to do that with expansion teams as well!
Give the guy the support he deserves, give him an extra 2 years extension to show the world we know the meaning of stability.
Don't go down the path of eating our own.... AGAIN!
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Its a myth the instability of coaches.
Spud 5 years , Wallet 5 years.
Now we are going to give a coach an extension when he still has a year to run. :banghead :banghead ::) ::)
Thats why we are where we are.
This is INSANE !
If this keeps up, I will nominate for a position on the board, wouldnt do any worse than some of the ''parasites"" there at present
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Yay we are finally on the right track and people want to cause in-house fighting. ::)
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If this keeps up, I will nominate for a position on the board, wouldnt do any worse than some of the ''parasites"" there at present
rubbish. Walk the walk don't just talk. Put your hand up then you toss. Sick of you talking about stuff but not doing it. Take a risk and actually put yourself out there rather than big noting yourself and throwing poo at the people that actually have the balls to take some responsibility and give it their best. Right or wrong they're not just armchair warriors. Talks cheap.
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If this keeps up, I will nominate for a position on the board, wouldnt do any worse than some of the ''parasites"" there at present
rubbish. Walk the walk don't just talk. Put your hand up then you toss. Sick of you talking about stuff but not doing it. Take a risk and actually put yourself out there rather than big noting yourself and throwing poo at the people that actually have the balls to take some responsibility and give it their best. Right or wrong they're not just armchair warriors. Talks cheap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZlWbbg-jYY
:lol
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Bit worried about what that kid has on his head in this video.
Anyway. back to the topic, why would you give a guy a contract extension when he has a year to go.
I support Hawthorns approach to Clarkson.
Make them earn the contract !
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Jack is right. Forgot about Clarkson people how about a guy some of you may know his names John Worsfold.
This guy was basically gawn this time last year and he has earnt his extension only given a few weeks ago.
he and the club should say to each and every player you go out there and do it for your coach.
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we "'hand out "" contracts at Punt Road.
Why on earth is there any valid reason to extend a contract with still a year to run is beyond belief.
Although it is the Richmond Football Club after all ::)
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I have nothing to back this up but my cynicism and suspicions have me thinking the whole of the Eagles' inner sanctum including their Prez was in on them tanking last year and Worsfold was never in any risk of being sacked. I think he's the only wooden spoon winning coach never to have been sacked and West Coast this year had the largest jump in number of wins from the previous season on record or least in the modern era. All very suss!
As for us, the Club obviously has total faith in Dimma as the right man for the job unlike Plough where March's comments in late-2008 put the Club in the media spotlight as in will we/won't we sack Wallace. Walace also had a 5-year contract so we couldn't afford to sack him until the final year of it.
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we "'hand out "" contracts at Punt Road.
Why on earth is there any valid reason to extend a contract with still a year to run is beyond belief.
Although it is the Richmond Football Club after all ::)
Agreed
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I can see what people are saying but every circumstance is different. Clarkson had won a premiership (with Dimma's help) and they were in a different situation than us. From a premiership there is only one way and that is down (unless you win another of course). So they were on the decline and Kennet wanted to make sure that the ship was again steering in the right direction (top four) before re-signing him. The tiges however have started from rock bottom, a brand new side almost, and have shown improvement under Hardwick, albeit incremental. The board realise how hard it is to improve dramatically with the two expansion clubs taking most of the elite talent. Dimma has earnt an extension because the side has improved and he will have a difficult enough job as it is without the media circling around the club if we string a couple of losses together next year. I know Wallace was given five years but he had lost the players totally! Does everybody forget the player meetings and the media leaks? He deserved not to be re-signed.
Can't anyone see the insurmountable pressure on Dimma and the team to perform if a few losses are posted? The media loves blood. Coaches blood in particular. They'll stop at nothing to get it. It would become another Richmond circus.
I'm sure the board would not extend Dimma's contract unless he fulfilled key permanence indicators that were set out for him to achieve. I for one can easily see how he would have reached them. I think he is doing a good job, not brilliant but solid.
Go Tiges!
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It was interesting to see robbie deans get his contract as the australian rugby coach extended before the world cup.
ARU must be run by the same buffoons as RFC ::)
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we aint in the world cup and we havent played finals in years ::)
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No but they too are in a rebuilding phase.
It's a case of knowing where you are at and if it's about where you expected to be.
It meant that deans went into the world cup with no added pressure.
Considering that early loss made it very hard, they went deeper into the tournament than most would have expected.
They then beat wales with largely a second side (wales 2nd as well?) for 3rd so overall not a bad world cup for the wallabies.
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Damien Hardwick should coach the Wallabies.
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Legals are done, website will be launched next week to vote.
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Oh, good luck. Club is finally united, wins trending upwards, list being constantly churned, kids getting games, record memberships, off field improvement and you want to turn things upside down. Right or wrong, I think most supporters are encouraged by the last two years
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No but they too are in a rebuilding phase.
It's a case of knowing where you are at and if it's about where you expected to be.
It meant that deans went into the world cup with no added pressure.
Considering that early loss made it very hard, they went deeper into the tournament than most would have expected.
They then beat wales with largely a second side (wales 2nd as well?) for 3rd so overall not a bad world cup for the wallabies.
WE have been in a rebuilding phase for 30 years ::)
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No but they too are in a rebuilding phase.
It's a case of knowing where you are at and if it's about where you expected to be.
It meant that deans went into the world cup with no added pressure.
Considering that early loss made it very hard, they went deeper into the tournament than most would have expected.
They then beat wales with largely a second side (wales 2nd as well?) for 3rd so overall not a bad world cup for the wallabies.
WE have been in a rebuilding phase for 30 years ::)
Crap. But what is FACT is that you've been in a in a bitter phase for the past 6 or so years.
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Its a myth the instability of coaches.
Spud 5 years , Wallet 5 years.
Now we are going to give a coach an extension when he still has a year to run. :banghead :banghead ::) ::)
Thats why we are where we are.
This is INSANE !
If this keeps up, I will nominate for a position on the board, wouldnt do any worse than some of the ''parasites"" there at present
Apart from the last sentence, this post is spot on. I believe we are insecure when it comes to publicly dealing with media scrutiny of our coaches. our paranoia is well founded, If we didn't re-sign Hardwick the media would be like a pack of hyenas.
Re-signing Hardwick when he has done a lot of good but achieved little in tangible on field results is a weak decision.
Holding on until the end of next year is real courage and is backing the club to manage the inevitable spotlight.
Hardwick has been a good coach but Clarkson, Worsfold and even Eade/Craig were/are all good coaches with much better records than Hardwicks and those clubs showed a strong resolve to wait.
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we "'hand out "" contracts at Punt Road.
Hasn't always been the case, eh Jack?
:bow
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They(Benny and co) have brought it forward to cover their own arses - the very public goal of 3 finals series by 2014 means it starts next season, if it looks like we wont play finals by midseason the vultures in the media will pounce. Once again we shot ourselves in the foot with stupid public comments and now are running scared to cover for the potential public backlash if we dont fulfill those very public comments.
This club hasnt changed. Clubs should not back themselves into a corner for an all or nothing season, too many variables that can throw an individual season off course.. but we have done that all for PR all for the moment back then.
TBR you have my signature
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Sign him up, the day the club starts doing what Jackstar wants is when I start wearing black and white.
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Legals are done, website will be launched next week to vote.
Hey Cho,
A few questions
1) What do you believe is the % chance of getting enough signatures, and what is your timing?
2) What is your/the platform at this stage.
3) What do you believe your % chance is of getting enough votes to be in a position to achieve this?
4) What do you believe is the % chance of us playing finals this coming season, and if you knew that we were going to, would it change your/the platform position?
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Legals are done, website will be launched next week to vote.
Hey Cho,
A few questions
1) What do you believe is the % chance of getting enough signatures, and what is your timing?
2) What is your/the platform at this stage.
3) What do you believe your % chance is of getting enough votes to be in a position to achieve this?
4) What do you believe is the % chance of us playing finals this coming season, and if you knew that we were going to, would it change your/the platform position?
^ cheers mate - was going to ask the same sort of questions but you saved me the hassle of typing them :)
...interested to hear/read the answers to these...
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Legals are done, website will be launched next week to vote.
I support Big Richos democratic rights as a member. Good onya BR. :thumbsup
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Sign him up, the day the club starts doing what Jackstar wants is when I start wearing black and white.
Maybe just maybe we would play finals if we took a hard stance on things instead of handing out contracts to players and coaches.earn your stripes I say
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Legals are done, website will be launched next week to vote.
Hey Cho,
A few questions
1) What do you believe is the % chance of getting enough signatures, and what is your timing?
2) What is your/the platform at this stage.
3) What do you believe your % chance is of getting enough votes to be in a position to achieve this?
4) What do you believe is the % chance of us playing finals this coming season, and if you knew that we were going to, would it change your/the platform position?
I must be losing my touch.
Relax, just my colourful way of expressing my displeasure at recent admin decisions, including a contract extension for a man that is still unproven as an AFL coach.
Although I wonder whether a Sack Cameron, Delist Jackson, Hold a Member's vote on the new logo, Don't extend Hardwick contract till current one is due ticket would work............ ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) :shh :shh :shh :shh
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Sign him up, the day the club starts doing what Jackstar wants is when I start wearing black and white.
Maybe just maybe we would play finals if we took a hard stance on things instead of handing out contracts to players and coaches.earn your stripes I say
bla bla bla jackstar to be captain coach head of recruiting president and ceo
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Awww gee
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No but they too are in a rebuilding phase.
It's a case of knowing where you are at and if it's about where you expected to be.
It meant that deans went into the world cup with no added pressure.
Considering that early loss made it very hard, they went deeper into the tournament than most would have expected.
They then beat wales with largely a second side (wales 2nd as well?) for 3rd so overall not a bad world cup for the wallabies.
WE have been in a rebuilding phase for 30 years ::)
not with this current ceo playing group and coach you baffoon
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wasting your time trying to point things like that out. The mind is very narrow and clamped securely shut.
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Legals are done, website will be launched next week to vote.
Hey Cho,
A few questions
1) What do you believe is the % chance of getting enough signatures, and what is your timing?
2) What is your/the platform at this stage.
3) What do you believe your % chance is of getting enough votes to be in a position to achieve this?
4) What do you believe is the % chance of us playing finals this coming season, and if you knew that we were going to, would it change your/the platform position?
I must be losing my touch.
Relax, just my colourful way of expressing my displeasure at recent admin decisions, including a contract extension for a man that is still unproven as an AFL coach.
Although I wonder whether a Sack Cameron, Delist Jackson, Hold a Member's vote on the new logo, Don't extend Hardwick contract till current one is due ticket would work............ ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) :shh :shh :shh :shh
top platform IMHO. with this platform real change and reform can come to Tigerland. All the way with TBR and Jacko ;D