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Title: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on December 01, 2011, 12:56:13 AM
Righto Martin, here is your first target in round 1. You said you were going to do some crunching, now head straight for that shoulder!!!!!....... ;D

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/chris-judd-shoulder-injury-scare/story-e6frf9jf-1226210695453

Should clean them up Round 1 WP, will over run them, bust them up bad, bring them down to where they belong....trust me, Round 1 will be one to remember....big win mate!!

 :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: dwaino on December 01, 2011, 01:10:32 AM
This is the result of Dusty and Judd doing push ups on opposite sides of the planet.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: eliminator on December 01, 2011, 06:50:17 AM
After the thrashing we got from Carlton this year we need to make a statement when we meet them in round 1.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on December 01, 2011, 07:18:24 AM
After the thrashing we got from Carlton this year we need to make a statement when we meet them in round 1.

Yes I raved on about this last year, really need to go out and smash them, start with Martin....big hip and shoulder at the bounce on Judd.......within 5 meters of the ball of course.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Phil Mrakov on December 01, 2011, 11:35:21 AM
Righto Martin, here is your first target in round 1. You said you were going to do some crunching, now head straight for that shoulder!!!!!....... ;D

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/chris-judd-shoulder-injury-scare/story-e6frf9jf-1226210695453

Should clean them up Round 1 WP, will over run them, bust them up bad, bring them down to where they belong....trust me, Round 1 will be one to remember....big win mate!!

 :gotigers

Don't think Judd will even play?
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Phil Mrakov on December 01, 2011, 11:52:05 AM
KB is now predicting a 90 point win to us :laugh:

and has put a line right through the Carltank list for 2012.

But Carlton has said its only minor surgery and that he will be back training in January.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: dwaino on December 01, 2011, 12:44:53 PM
KB is now predicting a 90 point win to us :laugh:

and has put a line right through the Carltank list for 2012.

But Carlton has said its only minor surgery and that he will be back training in January.

Remember the stink when guys like King and Jack were going to be a few weeks behind starting full on pre-season? Imagine the meltdown around here then if it were only January instead. Only January!

Judd will be ok I suspect. It's not like he tackles or lifts his arms above his hips. The umps will give him a few make up kicks too.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Phil Mrakov on December 01, 2011, 01:02:21 PM
Gotta admire KB's hatred for Carlton ;D
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Chuck17 on December 01, 2011, 03:45:29 PM
Dont get too carried away folks we are still a fair way off of being a good side.
Look for Shed to be cleaned up early.
l
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WilliamPowell on December 01, 2011, 04:04:26 PM
Judd's booked in for minor surgery

Scum say he'll be right for round 1

It's how we start that will determine the result  ;D

can we win = YEP

Will we win = who knows I'll get back to ya  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: wayne on December 01, 2011, 04:33:23 PM
Gotta admire KB's hatred for Carlton ;D

Haha, the Carltank fans on BF fall for it every time.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: mat073 on December 01, 2011, 04:56:26 PM
Not so optimistic.

Carlton have won six straight with an average winning margin of 63 pts. FACT.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Owl on December 01, 2011, 07:10:19 PM
which means statistically we are all that closer to winning one back. 
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on December 01, 2011, 09:43:29 PM
Lets not get carried away.

Yes we do need to beat this Filthy mob but lets keep our feet on the ground and not get too far ahead of ourselves.

Can remember The Filth going down a similar path in 2009 with injuries to Judd and a few others and then the O'Hailpan incident where he booted Cloke which clouded their pre season before Solarium Man opened his mouth and declared us "locked and loaded"...............

Lets not worry about them and worry about us and what we will do to combat them and if the golden boy mercenary aint playing because his shoulders are stuffed it is not remiss of me or any Richmond Supporter to be pleased about that. Let our footy do the talking and don't give in to excuses or reasons as to why or why not things are hapenning.

The pressure is on them to perform as noone expects much from us. Lets buck that trend. :gotigers






Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: mightytiges on December 02, 2011, 06:53:10 PM
Dusty can test out Judd's shoulder in the first 5 minutes to find out if it's really okay or not  :eyebrow.

What about everyone's early thoughts for their round 1 side?

Here's mine:
B:    Grimes       Rance             Morris
HB:  Newman    Astbury/Post   Batchelor
C:    Houli         Cotchin           Deledio
HF:   Ellis          Riewoldt         Conca
F:    Nahas        Vickery         Griffiths/Miller   
R:    Maric         Martin          Foley
Int (from):  Grigg, Edwards, Helbig, McCarthy*

At CHB there's still no obvious choice.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: tiger101 on December 02, 2011, 07:03:08 PM
Judd's booked in for minor surgery

Scum say he'll be right for round 1

It's how we start that will determine the result  ;D

can we win = YEP

Will we win = who knows I'll get back to ya  ;D

Yep we gotta keep with them at the start. We don't have to work extra in the 3rd quarter to get back in it to only be blown away in the 4th.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on December 03, 2011, 06:23:19 AM
Judd's booked in for minor surgery

Scum say he'll be right for round 1

It's how we start that will determine the result  ;D

can we win = YEP

Will we win = who knows I'll get back to ya  ;D

WP...WP, I can feel the vibe in your post this year bud.....you can feel it can't you.... :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: one-eyed on January 02, 2012, 12:39:02 PM
Early odds for round 1  :-\

RICHMOND   $4.95
CARLTON      $1.17

http://www.thetote.com.au/sportsbet/propositions.aspx?tid=2&eId=594937   
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: cub on January 02, 2012, 12:47:35 PM
That is very tempting, VERY tempting!
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on January 02, 2012, 02:36:06 PM
Early odds for round 1  :-\

RICHMOND   $4.95
CARLTON      $1.17

http://www.thetote.com.au/sportsbet/propositions.aspx?tid=2&eId=594937

Bloody hell, not looking good for No Excuses based on that figure.... :(
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on January 02, 2012, 05:39:56 PM
What odds on the mercenary getting the most frees during the game?
The girls at school are playing a skipping rope game
How many 360's before Juddy gets pinned 1,2,3,4, etc.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Penelope on January 02, 2012, 05:42:29 PM
 :lol

Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on January 02, 2012, 07:22:35 PM
What odds on the mercenary getting the most frees during the game?
The girls at school are playing a skipping rope game
How many 360's before Juddy gets pinned 1,2,3,4, etc.

 :clapping

Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: cub on January 02, 2012, 09:28:09 PM
Be funny if it wasn't disgustingly true, well the day dusty cotch and
Co get them thy shalt not complain
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: mightytiges on January 03, 2012, 01:31:35 PM
I just firstly want to see us be competitive for 4 quarters against them. No more giving them 5 goal starts or us being witches hats for 3 quarters while they run rings around us having 40+ shots at goal. They have owned us since the centenary game :chuck. Those odds are spot on until we show otherwise.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on January 03, 2012, 01:37:56 PM
Let Deledio tag Judd and Maric roughen up Warnock in the ruck and we're half way to victory  8)
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on January 03, 2012, 04:51:50 PM
I just want to see them be competitive.......stuff me......I just want to see them have fun and enjoy themselves. So long as they have a great time......

stuff that....I want victory, big, massive victory, Martin to smash Judd at the bounce, Jack and Vicks to bag 10......6&4 respectively....

Cotchin to make people say Marc Murphy who, the Blues supporters to say why did we pick Kruz ahead of Cotch. Lids to pick up 35 possies and kick 4 goals......

C'mon for Gods sake, odds mean poo, unless you let them.....this year we must win this game!!!! WE CAN!!!!!

 :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: NACKERS on January 03, 2012, 05:17:03 PM
I realy want someone to clean Jarrod Waite up,after his horse kick to Mcguanes nuts last year.I absolutly hate him ,come on Kingy,Martin do your best :clapping
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Phil Mrakov on January 03, 2012, 06:19:57 PM
I realy want someone to clean Jarrod Waite up,after his horse kick to Mcguanes nuts last year.I absolutly hate him ,come on Kingy,Martin do your best :clapping

Hes a massive wanker. He is the definition of Carlton scum. Sometimes I wish he had put mcguane out of the game permanently though.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: The Big Richo on January 03, 2012, 06:46:16 PM
I have gone into the last few years thinking we would win.

This year my feeling is we will lose.

I actually have a nagging feeling we will have a bad year and see the end of Hardwick.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on January 03, 2012, 07:03:04 PM
I have gone into the last few years thinking we would win.

This year my feeling is we will lose.

I actually have a nagging feeling we will have a bad year and see the end of Hardwick.

Go away  :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: yellowandback on January 03, 2012, 07:06:48 PM
I just want to see them be competitive.......stuff me......I just want to see them have fun and enjoy themselves. So long as they have a great time......

stuff that....I want victory, big, massive victory, Martin to smash Judd at the bounce, Jack and Vicks to bag 10......6&4 respectively....

Cotchin to make people say Marc Murphy who, the Blues supporters to say why did we pick Kruz ahead of Cotch. Lids to pick up 35 possies and kick 4 goals......

C'mon for Gods sake, odds mean poo, unless you let them.....this year we must win this game!!!! WE CAN!!!!!

 :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers

The odds are about right for this time of year WAT.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: smasha on January 03, 2012, 08:35:20 PM
I want no bumping.

Martin will be out for 10 weeks the way the tribunal treats Richmond players.

Can't pick our nose without being penalised for something.

The mule is allowed to kick our players in the nutbag but as soon our players breathe on those precious ones from Lygon St.,the umpires will come running with the pen and notepad.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: smasha on January 03, 2012, 08:37:19 PM
What odds on the mercenary getting the most frees during the game?
The girls at school are playing a skipping rope game
How many 360's before Juddy gets pinned 1,2,3,4, etc.

How true and the umpires pull out the whistle faster than Quick Draw McGraw when our players are tackled.

Hope the umpires are consistent and don't let emotions(hatred of Richmond) get to them this year.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: smasha on January 03, 2012, 08:43:54 PM
I have gone into the last few years thinking we would win.

This year my feeling is we will lose.

I actually have a nagging feeling we will have a bad year and see the end of Hardwick.

The media will turn into The Truth newspaper at any Richmond loss.
Will really try to put the pressure on Hardwick the pricks.

I still think next year ,2013, is the pressure year for him.

The media will not be that forgiving especially as it's Richmond.

Golden boy will be treated like a lamb when Essendon loses.

Hardwick will have flames under the feet.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on January 03, 2012, 10:09:34 PM
I just want to see them be competitive.......stuff me......I just want to see them have fun and enjoy themselves. So long as they have a great time......

stuff that....I want victory, big, massive victory, Martin to smash Judd at the bounce, Jack and Vicks to bag 10......6&4 respectively....

Cotchin to make people say Marc Murphy who, the Blues supporters to say why did we pick Kruz ahead of Cotch. Lids to pick up 35 possies and kick 4 goals......

C'mon for Gods sake, odds mean poo, unless you let them.....this year we must win this game!!!! WE CAN!!!!!

 :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers

The odds are about right for this time of year WAT.

I know they are spot on, but we don't have to pay any attention to them when the ball is bounced!!
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on January 03, 2012, 10:14:51 PM
FFS, I can't believe some of you are actually already blaming the umpires......here come the excuses I talked about... :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: tiga on January 03, 2012, 10:45:17 PM
FFS, I can't believe some of you are actually already blaming the umpires......here come the excuses I talked about... :banghead :banghead

Here are some quotes you might like WAT....  ;D

Excuses are the nails used to build a house of failure.  ~Don Wilder and Bill Rechin

Excuses are the tools with which persons with no purpose in view build for themselves great monuments of nothing.  ~Steven Grayhm

And oftentimes excusing of a fault Doth make the fault the worse by the excuse. ~William Shakespeare

Bad excuses are worse than none.  ~Thomas Fuller

We are all manufacturers - some make good, others make trouble, and still others make excuses.  ~Author Unknown

Success is a tale of obstacles overcome, and for every obstacle overcome, an excuse not used.  ~Robert Brault

An excuse is a skin of a reason stuffed with a lie.  ~Billy Sunday

Bad men excuse their faults; good men abandon them.  ~Author Unknown

He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else.  ~Benjamin Franklin

It is wise to direct your anger towards problems - not people, to focus your energies on answers - not excuses.  ~William Arthur Ward

The person who really wants to do something finds a way; the other person finds an excuse.  ~Author Unknown



Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on January 04, 2012, 05:44:00 AM
FFS, I can't believe some of you are actually already blaming the umpires......here come the excuses I talked about... :banghead :banghead

Here are some quotes you might like WAT....  ;D

Excuses are the nails used to build a house of failure.  ~Don Wilder and Bill Rechin

Excuses are the tools with which persons with no purpose in view build for themselves great monuments of nothing.  ~Steven Grayhm

And oftentimes excusing of a fault Doth make the fault the worse by the excuse. ~William Shakespeare

Bad excuses are worse than none.  ~Thomas Fuller

We are all manufacturers - some make good, others make trouble, and still others make excuses.  ~Author Unknown

Success is a tale of obstacles overcome, and for every obstacle overcome, an excuse not used.  ~Robert Brault

An excuse is a skin of a reason stuffed with a lie.  ~Billy Sunday

Bad men excuse their faults; good men abandon them.  ~Author Unknown

He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else.  ~Benjamin Franklin

It is wise to direct your anger towards problems - not people, to focus your energies on answers - not excuses.  ~William Arthur Ward

The person who really wants to do something finds a way; the other person finds an excuse.  ~Author Unknown

Tiga....please bump this thread regularly each week during the season IF we lose via excuses......great stuff.... :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: JVT on January 04, 2012, 08:16:34 AM
FFS, I can't believe some of you are actually already blaming the umpires......here come the excuses I talked about... :banghead :banghead

Here are some quotes you might like WAT....  ;D

Excuses are the nails used to build a house of failure.  ~Don Wilder and Bill Rechin

Excuses are the tools with which persons with no purpose in view build for themselves great monuments of nothing.  ~Steven Grayhm

And oftentimes excusing of a fault Doth make the fault the worse by the excuse. ~William Shakespeare

Bad excuses are worse than none.  ~Thomas Fuller

We are all manufacturers - some make good, others make trouble, and still others make excuses.  ~Author Unknown

Success is a tale of obstacles overcome, and for every obstacle overcome, an excuse not used.  ~Robert Brault

An excuse is a skin of a reason stuffed with a lie.  ~Billy Sunday

Bad men excuse their faults; good men abandon them.  ~Author Unknown

He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else.  ~Benjamin Franklin

It is wise to direct your anger towards problems - not people, to focus your energies on answers - not excuses.  ~William Arthur Ward

The person who really wants to do something finds a way; the other person finds an excuse.  ~Author Unknown
NO EXCUSES. ~WA Tiger
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: tiga on January 04, 2012, 09:14:40 AM
FFS, I can't believe some of you are actually already blaming the umpires......here come the excuses I talked about... :banghead :banghead

Here are some quotes you might like WAT....  ;D

Excuses are the nails used to build a house of failure.  ~Don Wilder and Bill Rechin

Excuses are the tools with which persons with no purpose in view build for themselves great monuments of nothing.  ~Steven Grayhm

And oftentimes excusing of a fault Doth make the fault the worse by the excuse. ~William Shakespeare

Bad excuses are worse than none.  ~Thomas Fuller

We are all manufacturers - some make good, others make trouble, and still others make excuses.  ~Author Unknown

Success is a tale of obstacles overcome, and for every obstacle overcome, an excuse not used.  ~Robert Brault

An excuse is a skin of a reason stuffed with a lie.  ~Billy Sunday

Bad men excuse their faults; good men abandon them.  ~Author Unknown

He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else.  ~Benjamin Franklin

It is wise to direct your anger towards problems - not people, to focus your energies on answers - not excuses.  ~William Arthur Ward

The person who really wants to do something finds a way; the other person finds an excuse.  ~Author Unknown

Tiga....please bump this thread regularly each week during the season IF we lose via excuses......great stuff.... :thumbsup
WAT I will try my best but sometimes I might have to run up the shops or feed the dog or I might get a flat tyre on the way home or have problems with my computer which may affect my ability to bump this thread reliably.  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on January 04, 2012, 09:17:20 PM
FFS, I can't believe some of you are actually already blaming the umpires......here come the excuses I talked about... :banghead :banghead

Here are some quotes you might like WAT....  ;D

Excuses are the nails used to build a house of failure.  ~Don Wilder and Bill Rechin

Excuses are the tools with which persons with no purpose in view build for themselves great monuments of nothing.  ~Steven Grayhm

And oftentimes excusing of a fault Doth make the fault the worse by the excuse. ~William Shakespeare

Bad excuses are worse than none.  ~Thomas Fuller

We are all manufacturers - some make good, others make trouble, and still others make excuses.  ~Author Unknown

Success is a tale of obstacles overcome, and for every obstacle overcome, an excuse not used.  ~Robert Brault

An excuse is a skin of a reason stuffed with a lie.  ~Billy Sunday

Bad men excuse their faults; good men abandon them.  ~Author Unknown

He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else.  ~Benjamin Franklin

It is wise to direct your anger towards problems - not people, to focus your energies on answers - not excuses.  ~William Arthur Ward

The person who really wants to do something finds a way; the other person finds an excuse.  ~Author Unknown

Tiga....please bump this thread regularly each week during the season IF we lose via excuses......great stuff.... :thumbsup
WAT I will try my best but sometimes I might have to run up the shops or feed the dog or I might get a flat tyre on the way home or have problems with my computer which may affect my ability to bump this thread reliably.  ;D

NO EXCUSES Tiga..... :lol :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on January 07, 2012, 12:06:04 AM
I realy want someone to clean Jarrod Waite up,after his horse kick to Mcguanes nuts last year.I absolutly hate him ,come on Kingy,Martin do your best :clapping

Hes a massive wanker. He is the definition of Carlton scum. Sometimes I wish he had put mcguane out of the game permanently though.



It is an indictment on any Richmond side from any era from the late 60's onwards to not treat a Waite with the disdain and disrespect they deserve.
When Waite Snr was belting our little blokes like Bartlett Barrott etc because he was such a "tough bloke and hard nut" we had enforcers like Ricky McLean, Robbir McGhie and Neal Balme dishing out retribution to him. Everyone remembers Balme's puch on Southby any Richmond fan who recognises the hatred we have for Carlton and the Waites would know the punch on Waite was more clinical brutal surgical methodical and wonderful to a man of big body but small mind, heart and soul.
The way I see it Waite Jnr is merely trying to "square up" for the sins of his old man. McGuane in Rnd 1 and Griffiths in second game last year are just two pathetic exapmples.
Without saying what goes around comes around to the petulant an insolent turd with all the cameras and inconsistencies of the MRP and Tribunal it is just much easier to say that regardless of what this disgusting degenerate dysfunctional disgraceful disillusional disrespectful displaced dipsh1t of a footy player does the Waite family will always be Richmond's b1atches.
All I can hope for is that we do not allow him to
a) Kick his two or three goals
b) Use any unecessary and unwarranted violence towards our players that won't be punished
c) If he tries any violence have some sort of enforcer scoop up the piece of skata with a pair of tongs and dispose of him appropriately.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Coach on January 07, 2012, 12:08:48 AM
I have gone into the last few years thinking we would win.

This year my feeling is we will lose.

I actually have a nagging feeling we will have a bad year and see the end of Hardwick.

Go away  :banghead

TBR, please stay and continue with such posts. MadTugger is a slapper. Anything that annoys him is worth doing.

Regards,
The Coach
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Penelope on January 07, 2012, 09:11:01 AM
I realy want someone to clean Jarrod Waite up,after his horse kick to Mcguanes nuts last year.I absolutly hate him ,come on Kingy,Martin do your best :clapping

Hes a massive wanker. He is the definition of Carlton scum. Sometimes I wish he had put mcguane out of the game permanently though.



It is an indictment on any Richmond side from any era from the late 60's onwards to not treat a Waite with the disdain and disrespect they deserve.
When Waite Snr was belting our little blokes like Bartlett Barrott etc because he was such a "tough bloke and hard nut" we had enforcers like Ricky McLean, Robbir McGhie and Neal Balme dishing out retribution to him. Everyone remembers Balme's puch on Southby any Richmond fan who recognises the hatred we have for Carlton and the Waites would know the punch on Waite was more clinical brutal surgical methodical and wonderful to a man of big body but small mind, heart and soul.
The way I see it Waite Jnr is merely trying to "square up" for the sins of his old man. McGuane in Rnd 1 and Griffiths in second game last year are just two pathetic exapmples.
Without saying what goes around comes around to the petulant an insolent turd with all the cameras and inconsistencies of the MRP and Tribunal it is just much easier to say that regardless of what this disgusting degenerate dysfunctional disgraceful disillusional disrespectful displaced dippoo of a footy player does the Waite family will always be Richmond's b1atches.
All I can hope for is that we do not allow him to
a) Kick his two or three goals
b) Use any unecessary and unwarranted violence towards our players that won't be punished
c) If he tries any violence have some sort of enforcer scoop up the piece of skata with a pair of tongs and dispose of him appropriately.

I think he has a lot to answer for the rot we have seen in the last 10 years at tigerland and i dont have a lot of time for him, but the footage of Mal Brown decking three Carlton players one after another is just so sweeeeet.

(think he was playing for claremont?)
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Smokey on January 07, 2012, 09:19:13 AM

It is an indictment on any Richmond side from any era from the late 60's onwards to not treat a Waite with the disdain and disrespect they deserve.
When Waite Snr was belting our little blokes like Bartlett Barrott etc because he was such a "tough bloke and hard nut" we had enforcers like Ricky McLean, Robbir McGhie and Neal Balme dishing out retribution to him. Everyone remembers Balme's puch on Southby any Richmond fan who recognises the hatred we have for Carlton and the Waites would know the punch on Waite was more clinical brutal surgical methodical and wonderful to a man of big body but small mind, heart and soul.
The way I see it Waite Jnr is merely trying to "square up" for the sins of his old man. McGuane in Rnd 1 and Griffiths in second game last year are just two pathetic exapmples.
Without saying what goes around comes around to the petulant an insolent turd with all the cameras and inconsistencies of the MRP and Tribunal it is just much easier to say that regardless of what this disgusting degenerate dysfunctional disgraceful disillusional disrespectful displaced dippoo of a footy player does the Waite family will always be Richmond's b1atches.
All I can hope for is that we do not allow him to
a) Kick his two or three goals
b) Use any unecessary and unwarranted violence towards our players that won't be punished
c) If he tries any violence have some sort of enforcer scoop up the piece of skata with a pair of tongs and dispose of him appropriately.

Bad day Tucker?   :lol

But I do agree with you all the same - couldn't stand Waite snr, a thug with limited skills, and can't stand his son.

Comment is made with reference to Waite snr's football traits, not personal ones, due to respect for his passing.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on February 15, 2012, 11:31:01 PM
Better be ready Tiges, they are going to come out like they usually do against us.........we must be able to counter their physical strength.... :pray

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-gets-down-and-dirty-for-new-season/story-e6frf9jf-1226272151715
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Owl on February 16, 2012, 08:49:03 AM
Bit of cuddling and kissing makes them tougher, run ya tongue...
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: MintOnLamb on February 16, 2012, 10:51:07 AM
Why not Tucky at CHB and have delivery types who he can feed off to streaming past him on the way to delivering the ball to Jack Jack Jacky and Big Ty??

Dusty can test out Judd's shoulder in the first 5 minutes to find out if it's really okay or not  :eyebrow.

What about everyone's early thoughts for their round 1 side?

Here's mine:
B:    Grimes       Rance             Morris
HB:  Newman    Astbury/Post   Batchelor
C:    Houli         Cotchin           Deledio
HF:   Ellis          Riewoldt         Conca
F:    Nahas        Vickery         Griffiths/Miller   
R:    Maric         Martin          Foley
Int (from):  Grigg, Edwards, Helbig, McCarthy*

At CHB there's still no obvious choice.
Title: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on February 22, 2012, 02:04:02 AM
So that's why they call it the Blues
Matt Murnane, Alice Springs
February 22, 2012


IT'S time for Richmond to play finals, but avoiding the diabolical starts that have sucked the life out of so many seasons looms as the crucial first step, the players have declared.

Richmond has not survived the first six weeks of a season with a winning record since 2005, and its round one wipeouts against Carlton in the past three years have been a recurring bad omen.

Tigers young guns Ty Vickery and Alex Rance have stated that opening night against the premiership-contending Blues in front of 70,000-plus fans at the MCG is the game the players most want to win this season.

The key position duo, who finished fifth and sixth respectively in last year's best and fairest, have also revealed the burning desire that is driving the players to end the club's 10-year finals drought.

"It's been enough time now and I think it's definitely time that we stood up," Rance said.

"It's time to walk the walk. We are confident enough in our game plan now that it's definitely time. We are mature enough to play finals and we should be playing them. We definitely want to be that competitive beast this year. 'Dimma' [coach Damien Hardwick] has drummed it into us. There is no more playing around, we've got to earn our ticket into the finals."

Richmond has beaten Carlton once in round one since the clubs began their blockbuster to open the season five years ago and its average losing margin in the past three matches sits at almost 60 points.

Speaking to The Age at Richmond's "Outback Tigers" community camp in Alice Springs, Rance and Vickery described the round-one clash as "massive" to the club's fortunes this year.

"Not only for the group's confidence, but also you underestimate how much the supporters come into it," said Rance, who enjoyed a coming-of-age season in 2011.

"For a game to go from 25,000 Tigers fans when you're playing say Melbourne, to 35,000 when you're playing Carlton, that gets behind you and it helps you grow an extra leg," he said. "So if we do have a good start and we can take that game out against Carlton, we will have that support through the season. And you never know, it could be the difference for us later on."

The Tigers have not won a game in the first four rounds of a season since 2008 and have another tough first month this year - playing the Blues, and then grand finalists Collingwood and Geelong, either side of a round three clash with Melbourne.

Richmond had a similarly brutal start last season, emerging with just a draw against St Kilda among losses to Carlton, Hawthorn and Collingwood.

Given the Tigers finished 12th, but only just off the top-eight pace, breaking even in the first month could have made a difference.

There have been countless examples of other clubs that have finished the season strongly, only to end up just outside the finals and rue a sluggish start to the year, such as North Melbourne in 2010 and 2011, Adelaide in 2010, Hawthorn in 2009 and the Brisbane Lions in 2008.

But the Tigers are confident they have addressed the defensive and contested ball issues highlighted pre-season, and Vickery said the players were gearing themselves for a big challenge first-up.

"We don't want to be playing catch up again a month into the season. We want to have a winning ledger early on," said Vickery, the Tigers second-highest goalkicker last year.

"We're looking to set ourselves up for a good, consistent year and it will start with a tough month where we have to play well.''

Rance said it was important the Tigers at least broke even out of the first month, with the games against Carlton and Melbourne the most crucial.

"If we could take three wins out of that lot then it would be a great start to the season for us. But I think probably two wins would be an OK result," Rance said.

"We had a good crack at Melbourne last year, so we'd fancy our chances against them.

"And round one is always fantastic and something the Tigers fans always love to come and watch, so if we can put in a good performance against Carlton, it would be ideal."

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/so-thats-why-they-call-it-the-blues-20120221-1tlvv.html#ixzz1n1qWb7oN
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: WA Tiger on February 22, 2012, 04:44:59 AM
Mmmmm need I say it..... :whistle

"It's been enough time now and I think it's definitely time that we stood up," Rance said.

"It's time to walk the walk. We are confident enough in our game plan now that it's definitely time. We are mature enough to play finals and we should be playing them. We definitely want to be that competitive beast this year. 'Dimma' [coach Damien Hardwick] has drummed it into us. There is no more playing around, we've got to earn our ticket into the finals."
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: Mr Magic on February 22, 2012, 05:57:06 AM
As we all know by now, talk is cheap.

Round 15 2011
Carlton 28.16 - 184
Richmond 12.9 - 81

A repeat of that performance would be disastrous and a lot will have to change from that day to get anywhere near the Blues.
Let's see what this Tiges 2012 team is made of.
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 22, 2012, 07:01:35 AM
Personally would still prefer them to shut up about finals for so many reasons  ;) ;D

This is one reason why:

"It's time to walk the walK' = EXACTLY but at the moment it is all talk and talk is cheap

Time for actions not words
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on February 22, 2012, 09:38:16 AM
We shouldn't have mentioned we fancied ourselves against melbourne. They'll use those comments to fire up when we play them
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on February 22, 2012, 10:07:17 AM
I'll say it again, all I want this year is to beat carlscum round 1 that's all I want. I really hate that cheating arrogant club.  Their supporters annoy me the most & I still haven't got over 1972 & especially 1982.

We should never allow that scum to beat us easily. Cheaters should never win. I can't stand the colour blue.
I'll be there with the hope that dimma's boys have some pride in that great jumper & go out there not just win but to hurt & embarrass them.  :pray

The likes of Robertson stretchered off in the first minute with a perfectly timed & legal hip & shoulder.
Betts with 2 kicks 0 goals 2 clangers to his name.
Judd with only 15 possies total all hard earned & under pressure.
Etc etc etc.

.... An all in brawl in the first minute would be great to just to let the footy world know we aren't gonna be pushed around anymore.

And most of all is to win I don't care by how much as long as we get the four points.
If this comes true I'll be a happy man this year.
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: Mr Magic on February 22, 2012, 10:35:56 AM
So who plays on Judd this time?
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: 1965 on February 22, 2012, 10:36:32 AM

Jacko
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: MADTIGER2010 on February 22, 2012, 10:39:18 AM
So who plays on Judd this time?

Deledio. He's the one who can keep Judd quiet and still hurt them with his attack
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: Loui Tufga on February 22, 2012, 10:52:42 AM
So who plays on Judd this time?

Will Judd play.............???
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on February 22, 2012, 10:53:10 AM
Helen D'Amico  ;D
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: Owl on February 22, 2012, 11:20:38 AM
I like Lids on Judd he beat him in a few nice tussles in one game I recall, not that the commentators could be stuffed mentioning that, they were too busy shellacking themselves over the fact that Judd was on the screen, never mind the fact that lids had ripped the ball out of his hands and peeed off with it lol.
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: smasha on February 22, 2012, 01:36:54 PM
Beat these bastards round one and we will make the 8 no questions.

The line in the sand is drawn.
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: WA Tiger on February 22, 2012, 02:11:10 PM
WP and MM...always the pessimist... :sleep
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on February 22, 2012, 02:14:46 PM
Beat these bastards round one and we will make the 8 no questions.

The line in the sand is drawn.
how great would it be if we won.

I can see your line smasha & Im ready  :cheers :gotigers
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 22, 2012, 02:28:44 PM
WP and MM...always the pessimist... :sleep

No on the contrary always the realist  ;D

You are all excited saying there is NO EXCUSES regarding finals (apart from when you place caveats on it of course)  :sleep

Now the players are saying it publicly you are getting even more excited but if they fail to make it you are going to the be one doing "woofer valve" over it....

You would hope they are aiming to play finals but personally I just don't want to read about in the media ....

Sick of the words want to see the results
 
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: Mr Magic on February 22, 2012, 03:56:13 PM

You are all excited saying there is NO EXCUSES regarding finals (apart from when you place caveats on it of course)  :sleep


 :lol

Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on February 22, 2012, 07:42:52 PM
Helen D'Amico  ;D

That name should never be typed on this forum. EVER.
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: Stripes on February 22, 2012, 08:57:21 PM
Just on the news - Judd will not play us in Round One!  :thumbsup


He was on tonight saying he was hoping after shoulder surgery to be back by round two
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 22, 2012, 08:58:59 PM
Just on the news - Judd will not play us in Round One!  :thumbsup


He was on tonight saying he was hoping after shoulder surgery to be back by round two

Errr sorry stripes he was talking about the NAB Cup  ;D

He's hoping to be back for round 2 of the NAB cup in a fortnight

Fitness & medicos want him to wait until round 3 of the NAB cup
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: Stripes on February 22, 2012, 09:04:39 PM
Just on the news - Judd will not play us in Round One!  :thumbsup


He was on tonight saying he was hoping after shoulder surgery to be back by round two

Errr sorry stripes he was talking about the NAB Cup  ;D

He's hoping to be back for round 2 of the NAB cup in a fortnight

Fitness & medicos want him to wait until round 3 of the NAB cup

Thought it was too good to be true  :'(
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: rogerd3 on February 22, 2012, 09:10:55 PM
WP and MM...always the pessimist... :sleep

No on the contrary always the realist  ;D

You are all excited saying there is NO EXCUSES regarding finals (apart from when you place caveats on it of course)  :sleep

Now the players are saying it publicly you are getting even more excited but if they fail to make it you are going to the be one doing "woofer valve" over it....

You would hope they are aiming to play finals but personally I just don't want to read about in the media ....

Sick of the words want to see the results

 :thumbsup
especially "woofer valve".
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: WA Tiger on February 22, 2012, 09:15:41 PM
WP and MM...always the pessimist... :sleep

Sick of the words want to see the results

Gee who will be doing the woofer valve if we lose.....

Hey at least I am going into it full of optimism

Think sometimes you confuse yourself as a realist V's a pessamist....thats just looking from the outside of course..

MM, why do I have a mental picture of you curled up on a shawl at the feet of WP in front on a blazing fire while he smokes a pipe with a glass of brandy in his hands..... ::)
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: WA Tiger on February 22, 2012, 09:30:26 PM
WP and MM...always the pessimist... :sleep

No on the contrary always the realist  ;D

You are all excited saying there is NO EXCUSES regarding finals (apart from when you place caveats on it of course)  :sleep

Now the players are saying it publicly you are getting even more excited but if they fail to make it you are going to the be one doing "woofer valve" over it....

You would hope they are aiming to play finals but personally I just don't want to read about in the media ....

Sick of the words want to see the results

 :thumbsup
especially "woofer valve".

Another one at the feet.. :whistle
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: cub on February 22, 2012, 09:43:30 PM
Carlton are ahead of us, no doubt about that! All the same we need to step up to the plate now and if we do there is no reason we can't pull it of f "No Dustin references please!'.
If we can, definately even being round 1 the 8 will be in the sights, Huge game AGAIN.
Already getting the abusive Carlton emails and it's about time for some payback.
3 years of pent up abuse is going to rebound like a sideways volcano. :gotigers
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: WA Tiger on February 22, 2012, 09:48:47 PM
Carlton are ahead of us, no doubt about that! All the same we need to step up to the plate now and if we do there is no reason we can't pull it of f "No Dustin references please!'.
If we can, definately even being round 1 the 8 will be in the sights, Huge game AGAIN.
Already getting the abusive Carlton emails and it's about time for some payback.
3 years of pent up abuse is going to rebound like a sideways volcano. :gotigers

Dead right, great way to lok at it, I want to see the scumbags get flogged. We are in a much better way this year to knock them off, better than we have ever been IMO.
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 22, 2012, 09:59:20 PM
Gee who will be doing the woofer valve if we lose.....


Wont be me I'll be too busy monitoring over reactions here win or lose  ;D

Quote

Hey at least I am going into it full of optimism

Think sometimes you confuse yourself as a realist V's a pessamist....thats just looking from the outside of course..

I actually think we are a show in round 1 if we get off to a fast start but if we lose it wont be the end of the season or the end of the world and I can guarantee you I wont be blowing a gasket over it..

I think you sometimes confuse yourself by making assumptions about what gets said in ways only to suit your case.

I dont think this:
" You would hope they are aiming to play finals but personally I just don't want to read about in the media .... Sick of the words want to see the results

is being pessimistic at all. Just saying the actions are far more important than the words. I've said all along I think we are a chance of finals but I am also realsitic enough to know that we need everything to go our way... If I was to say we had no chance at finals then yep you could label me a pessimist
 
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: Mr Magic on February 22, 2012, 10:19:04 PM
MM, why do I have a mental picture of you curled up on a shawl at the feet of WP in front on a blazing fire while he smokes a pipe with a glass of brandy in his hands..... ::)

No idea but I sure don't want to be part of your fantasies. :whistle
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 22, 2012, 10:19:33 PM
Snip back to the topic people and leave the smut in the gutter
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: Coach on February 22, 2012, 10:28:57 PM
 :banghead
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 22, 2012, 10:35:33 PM
:banghead

Exactly  :banghead :banghead :banghead

Snip - again stop the sniping back to the topic
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: WA Tiger on February 22, 2012, 10:37:12 PM
:banghead

Need some panadol CD.... ;D
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: cub on February 22, 2012, 10:37:20 PM
lolz
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: gerkin greg on February 22, 2012, 10:39:29 PM
:banghead

Exactly  :banghead :banghead :banghead

Snip - again stop the sniping back to the topic

 ::)

it's only sniping if you delete it

back on topic, just beat the blues you stuffwits, and davey rides a goat to work (dj rainbow)
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: gerkin greg on February 22, 2012, 10:41:07 PM
:banghead

Need some panadol CD.... ;D

  ;D

he needs more than that
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: rogerd3 on February 22, 2012, 10:48:35 PM
WP and MM...always the pessimist... :sleep

No on the contrary always the realist  ;D

You are all excited saying there is NO EXCUSES regarding finals (apart from when you place caveats on it of course)  :sleep

Now the players are saying it publicly you are getting even more excited but if they fail to make it you are going to the be one doing "woofer valve" over it....

You would hope they are aiming to play finals but personally I just don't want to read about in the media ....

Sick of the words want to see the results

 :thumbsup
especially "woofer valve".

Another one at the feet.. :whistle

love the comedy value mate.
you are all over the shop as per usual. :lol
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: WA Tiger on February 22, 2012, 10:59:11 PM
Gee who will be doing the woofer valve if we lose.....


Wont be me I'll be too busy monitoring over reactions here win or lose  ;D

Quote

Hey at least I am going into it full of optimism

Think sometimes you confuse yourself as a realist V's a pessamist....thats just looking from the outside of course..

I actually think we are a show in round 1 if we get off to a fast start but if we lose it wont be the end of the season or the end of the world and I can guarantee you I wont be blowing a gasket over it..

I think you sometimes confuse yourself by making assumptions about what gets said in ways only to suit your case.

I dont think this:
" You would hope they are aiming to play finals but personally I just don't want to read about in the media .... Sick of the words want to see the results

is being pessimistic at all. Just saying the actions are far more important than the words. I've said all along I think we are a chance of finals but I am also realsitic enough to know that we need everything to go our way... If I was to say we had no chance at finals then yep you could label me a pessimist

Mate I build myself up so much for this win every year that I am too stuffed to go beserk.......see last years posts.....

Others however that maintain this cool lets wait and see facarde.........

I know what you have said, you are covering both sides.....if we make it....but if we dont........at least I have called it.....NO EXCUSES....except major injuries to many players.... :lol

Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: WA Tiger on February 22, 2012, 11:00:51 PM
WP and MM...always the pessimist... :sleep

No on the contrary always the realist  ;D

You are all excited saying there is NO EXCUSES regarding finals (apart from when you place caveats on it of course)  :sleep

Now the players are saying it publicly you are getting even more excited but if they fail to make it you are going to the be one doing "woofer valve" over it....

You would hope they are aiming to play finals but personally I just don't want to read about in the media ....

Sick of the words want to see the results

 :thumbsup
especially "woofer valve".

Another one at the feet.. :whistle

love the comedy value mate.
you are all over the shop as per usual. :lol

Should change your name to 2 cents, as usual thats all your comments are worth and never on topic... :wallywink
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: rogerd3 on February 23, 2012, 09:38:42 PM
bit strange havent posted for over a year as i was suffering cancer mate...
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: WA Tiger on February 23, 2012, 10:30:25 PM
bit strange havent posted for over a year as i was suffering cancer mate...

Well hope your better!!!
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on February 23, 2012, 10:33:19 PM
Just finished watching round 1 2008, need one of those come rd 1 this year!! :birthday
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: gerkin greg on February 24, 2012, 09:20:22 AM
bit strange havent posted for over a year as i was suffering cancer mate...

NO EXCUSES!

 ;D
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: Owl on February 24, 2012, 09:57:16 AM
Cup of concrete!!!!  I stubbed me toe once, didn't hear me complaining much after the first few minutes.
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on February 24, 2012, 02:03:17 PM
Not sure if those comments are so bad they're good, or so good they're bad.......  :whistle

Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: Owl on February 24, 2012, 06:47:06 PM
Dunno either, took a chance...  Hope it comes off. o.O
Title: Re: Carlton in round 1 is the game the Tigers most want to win (Age)
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on February 24, 2012, 06:54:45 PM
Dunno either, took a chance...  Hope it comes off. o.O

I like it. Nothing wrong with a bit of good spirit.

And as insurance, send in the clowns  ;)

Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: one-eyed on February 27, 2012, 09:27:40 PM
Book your seat for Round 1
richmondfc.com.au
Mon 27 Feb, 2012



Richmond supporters can make sure they are part of the ‘roar action’ at the opening round MCG ‘Blockbuster’ clash with arch rival Carlton, on March 29, by booking their tickets early.

The Club’s General Admission members will be able to upgrade to a seat for Round 1 as of tomorrow (Tuesday February 28), by following the link provided in the EDM that will go out in the morning.

A crowd of 80,000 is expected at the Richmond-Carlton opening round battle, so purchasing a reserved seat is clearly the best way to guarantee you’re at the ‘G’ to see the two tribes go to war . .

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/129671/default.aspx
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: dwaino on February 28, 2012, 09:20:51 PM
What's the likelihood of this selling out before the round starts? I don't really want to reserve because then I won't be able to sit with my wanker Blues missus and I couldn't convince her to get even a 3 game Tigers membership this year. If I really have to I'll buy some tickets in the week leading up to it or something. Maybe next year I'll just have to buy the both of us reserved seats whether she likes it or not. I always just get general access memberships then chuck some extra cash in the FTF kitty, that way I can sit with my mates or my missus or whatever if they want to come. That's the only draw back with reserved :(
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: gerkin greg on February 28, 2012, 09:28:57 PM
no chance of a sell out dwaino
just go GA on the night
i got a bit antsy last year until blacky calmed me down with a bunger

yr missus barracks for the scum too? seems there are a lot of us richmond blokes who take masochism to the very edge  :lol
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: dwaino on February 28, 2012, 09:35:27 PM
no chance of a sell out dwaino
just go GA on the night
i got a bit antsy last year until blacky calmed me down with a bunger

yr missus barracks for the scum too? seems there are a lot of us richmond blokes who take masochism to the very edge  :lol

Cheers mate. Yeah I remember all the huff and puff leading up to the Dreamtime match. I got there with some mates 2 and a half hours early to make sure we could get in. It wasn't necessary so we just went up the road and got sloshed for a couple hours.

:lol yep. Her whole family are scumbags too. When we first met and I learned she was a wog, I knew straight away who she went for. The only upside with them is they have no problem with Richmond :D I still remember her dad saying "at least you don't go for Essendon... or Collingwood" lol. Their hatred for the Bummers brings us closer together.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: bojangles17 on February 28, 2012, 09:47:41 PM
if the weathers fine, then whoa, it could be a bumper crowd and Im talkin in the order of 84k+, maybe not a sellout as such but last man standing :shh
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Owl on February 28, 2012, 10:12:17 PM
Hey nonnny nonny!  Poke a green mop in my bottom and call me a carrot! 
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on February 28, 2012, 10:16:42 PM
You had me at 'whoa'  :shh
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Loui Tufga on February 28, 2012, 11:22:00 PM
He had me at nonny nonny  :-*
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on February 28, 2012, 11:31:38 PM
He didnt have me til bottom
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on February 28, 2012, 11:32:58 PM
So can I ask?? Is anyone one game to share their best 22-23 for round 1.
I know it early but I'm curious as to who you'll put out on the park without seeing the next two nab cup games.
 :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: gerkin greg on March 05, 2012, 11:18:43 PM
B: Grimes Rance Newman
HB: Houli Post Batchelor
C: Grigg Jackson Deledio
HF: A.Maric Miller Martin
F: Nahas Riewoldt Vickery
Foll: I.Maric Cotchin Foley
Int: Tuck Conca Edwards
Sub: Ellis

Emg: Derickx, Morris, McGuane

near enough anyway
includes coach's pets
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Willy on March 05, 2012, 11:20:01 PM
I like it, Gerks.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: gerkin greg on March 05, 2012, 11:34:08 PM
McGuane will probably get the gig ahead of Post
Helbig stiff
Only 1 debutant and that's the sub
Blues by five goals  :chuck
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Coach on March 05, 2012, 11:34:19 PM
B: Grimes Rance Newman
HB: Houli Post Batchelor
C: Grigg Jackson Deledio
HF: A.Maric Miller Martin
F: Nahas Riewoldt Vickery
Foll: I.Maric Cotchin Foley
Int: Tuck Conca Edwards
Sub: Ellis

Emg: Derickx, Morris, McGuane

near enough anyway
includes coach's pets

Grigg yuck :lol

I'll spew if McGuane gets a gig over Postman Pat
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: gerkin greg on March 05, 2012, 11:40:39 PM
Grigg yuck :lol
I'll spew if McGuane gets a gig over Postman Pat

 :chuck :chuck
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Loui Tufga on March 05, 2012, 11:41:07 PM
Yes, it's time to throw Post into the frypan. Give him 5 or 6 games straight to try and get some confidence, the kid can play if he put his mind to it.

I recon that team will be spot on Gerks, it is easily our best and most experienced side we could field ;)
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Danog on March 06, 2012, 01:22:39 AM
Exact same team as mine, with a few players in diff positions.  :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on March 06, 2012, 07:36:40 AM
Only 6 played the 2nd half on Sunday night
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: JBFTiger on March 06, 2012, 09:29:21 AM
Aren't A.Maric & Miller both Rookies?

I know Moore is on the long term Injury list. Is there someone else?
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: gerkin greg on March 06, 2012, 09:31:11 AM
lift Jon Bon, lift
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on March 06, 2012, 10:09:49 AM
I reckon we pick a fight with these cheats and smash 'em early.

Is King playing?
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: gerkin greg on March 06, 2012, 10:15:26 AM
Exact same team as mine, with a few players in diff positions.  :gotigers

lookout  :shh
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Bengal on March 06, 2012, 10:31:33 AM
Thought it was time now, after 3 NAB games to have a go at the round 1 team..

Grimes - Rance - Newman

Houli - Post - Batchelor

Deledio - Martin - Grigg

Edwards - Miller - Conca

Nahas - Riewoldt - Vickery

Ruck - I Maric, Cotchin, Foley

I/C - Jackson, Tuck, Helbig  sub Maric
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Loui Tufga on March 06, 2012, 10:35:20 AM
Aren't A.Maric & Miller both Rookies?

I know Moore is on the long term Injury list. Is there someone else?

Pretty sure we can promote one or two rookies at the start of the season because we don't have anyone on the veterans list.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: gerkin greg on March 06, 2012, 10:36:59 AM
don't mind that lineup either Bengal  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Loui Tufga on March 06, 2012, 10:43:29 AM
Ellis will be the interesting one, will we play him from round one to get some games into his legs or will we make him earn his spot from the VFL?
I haven't seen him do to much wrong so far but the kid needs to build a tank and will probably be a liability at this stage unless he is used as a sub. For the first time in years we have the depth to not feel like we "have to" play our first round draft pick from round 1.

Exciting times......
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Willy on March 06, 2012, 10:48:25 AM
Ellis will be the interesting one, will we play him from round one to get some games into his legs or will we make him earn his spot from the VFL?
I haven't seen him do to much wrong so far but the kid needs to build a tank and will probably be a liability at this stage unless he is used as a sub. For the first time in years we have the depth to not feel like we "have to" play our first round draft pick from round 1.

Exciting times......

Think he is already well on his way to having a tank. He's About as fit as a rookie can be. Has been ranked very highly in our time trials.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Loui Tufga on March 06, 2012, 10:54:51 AM
For sure, i'm not having a dig at the kid just saying ATM i think he will be best suited for the sub roll to slowly get some game time and miles into his legs. I think he will be fighting for a position with Helbig and he is going o.k at the moment too, he also has  a few more miles under his belt witch may just get him over the line just ahead of Ellis
As I said, it's nice to finally have some depth.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Bengal on March 06, 2012, 11:16:58 AM
For sure, i'm not having a dig at the kid just saying ATM i think he will be best suited for the sub roll to slowly get some game time and miles into his legs. I think he will be fighting for a position with Helbig and he is going o.k at the moment too, he also has  a few more miles under his belt witch may just get him over the line just ahead of Ellis
As I said, it's nice to finally have some depth.

That is exactly my thinking in leaving Ellis out.  i thought Helbig and Maric have both shown as enough so it came to personal preference to choose between the 3 of them..

i left Ellis out due to the other 2 having seasons behind them and having stronger bodies..
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: gerkin greg on March 06, 2012, 11:27:39 AM
Ellis will be the interesting one, will we play him from round one to get some games into his legs or will we make him earn his spot from the VFL?
I haven't seen him do to much wrong so far but the kid needs to build a tank and will probably be a liability at this stage unless he is used as a sub. For the first time in years we have the depth to not feel like we "have to" play our first round draft pick from round 1.

Exciting times......

Think he is already well on his way to having a tank. He's About as fit as a rookie can be. Has been ranked very highly in our time trials.

was the only bloke still running in the 4th qtr vs Freo

For sure, i'm not having a dig at the kid just saying ATM i think he will be best suited for the sub roll to slowly get some game time and miles into his legs. I think he will be fighting for a position with Helbig and he is going o.k at the moment too, he also has  a few more miles under his belt witch may just get him over the line just ahead of Ellis
As I said, it's nice to finally have some depth.

That is exactly my thinking in leaving Ellis out.  i thought Helbig and Maric have both shown as enough so it came to personal preference to choose between the 3 of them..

i left Ellis out due to the other 2 having seasons behind them and having stronger bodies..

It's a fair call and was in my thinking too. I think Ellis has a body capable of stepping straight up to seniors, chose him because he's had a bit more ball than Helbig this pre-season and is a more defensive minded player. Would like them both in TBH.

Don't think we have any depth though, the side was pretty easy to pick apart from the last couple, which was a choice between proven duds and unproven kids.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Willy on March 06, 2012, 11:37:55 AM
Ellis will be the interesting one, will we play him from round one to get some games into his legs or will we make him earn his spot from the VFL?
I haven't seen him do to much wrong so far but the kid needs to build a tank and will probably be a liability at this stage unless he is used as a sub. For the first time in years we have the depth to not feel like we "have to" play our first round draft pick from round 1.

Exciting times......




Think he is already well on his way to having a tank. He's About as fit as a rookie can be. Has been ranked very highly in our time trials.

was the only bloke still running in the 4th qtr vs Freo

For sure, i'm not having a dig at the kid just saying ATM i think he will be best suited for the sub roll to slowly get some game time and miles into his legs. I think he will be fighting for a position with Helbig and he is going o.k at the moment too, he also has  a few more miles under his belt witch may just get him over the line just ahead of Ellis
As I said, it's nice to finally have some depth.

That is exactly my thinking in leaving Ellis out.  i thought Helbig and Maric have both shown as enough so it came to personal preference to choose between the 3 of them..

i left Ellis out due to the other 2 having seasons behind them and having stronger bodies..

It's a fair call and was in my thinking too. I think Ellis has a body capable of stepping straight up to seniors, chose him because he's had a bit more ball than Helbig this pre-season and is a more defensive minded player. Would like them both in TBH.

Don't think we have any depth though, the side was pretty easy to pick apart from the last couple, which was a choice between proven duds and unproven kids.

 :yep

I think he is just straight up a better player than Helbig. Ran out four quaters in the Perth heat too. Ready to go. Play the man!
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Loui Tufga on March 06, 2012, 11:44:09 AM
 :thumbsup :thumbsup Well if we don't BoJo stands to loose his house on the Rising Star bet he had :shh :shh
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: gerkin greg on March 06, 2012, 11:45:10 AM
I'm leaning towards Helbig now  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: one-eyed on March 08, 2012, 12:05:16 AM
Tickets for round 1 on sale now ...

http://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=RICHM0112&cat=25004858B2322DFC (http://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=RICHM0112&cat=25004858B2322DFC)
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: eliminator on March 08, 2012, 07:02:27 AM
If possible would like Helbig and Ellis to play against Carlton. It would be a great education for Ellis to play in a blockbuster match
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Phil Mrakov on March 10, 2012, 07:20:28 PM
Blues rested these guys against the Lions today:

Murphy
Gibbs
Simpson
Kreuzer
Robinson
Betts
Garlett
Jamison
Scotland
Henderson
Laidler
Warnock
Carrazzo
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Loui Tufga on March 10, 2012, 07:47:14 PM
Blues rested these guys against the Lions today:

Murphy
Gibbs
Simpson
Kreuzer
Robinson
Betts
Garlett
Jamison
Scotland
Henderson
Laidler
Warnock
Carrazzo

Robinson Jamison and Warnock Wernt rested they are all injured, none have played a game yet this season ;)
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on March 10, 2012, 07:49:28 PM
Laidler also out for 6 weeks, dislocated knee cap.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Willy on March 10, 2012, 08:35:04 PM
Jamieson possibly out, at the very least under-done. Robinson in doubt. Carlton defense could be vulnerable.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: tigs2011 on March 10, 2012, 09:58:08 PM
whoa look out carlton  :shh
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 10, 2012, 10:14:01 PM
Lets not get carried away.
Carlton since 2007 has always been a barometer to our season.
Positive is we have genuine hype and a young team doing all the right things.
I am feeling very positive about our future. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Ox on March 11, 2012, 03:38:12 AM
Carlton are unfit in comparison.

This is how or why we could win.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on March 11, 2012, 10:07:32 AM
There is more than hope for once. We are a good chance.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on March 13, 2012, 09:15:17 PM
Without under estimating the opposition (who deep down I think are overated anyway) I honestly think Carlton are going into round one a little underdone.

Have they even managed to play their full squad yet??

Judd might of burned the training track up but how have him, Murph, Giggs, McLean, Carazzo gone......I know Kruz went ok in one game, but gee they seem off it so far...

Ox is onto it, thats what I think too...
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: yellowandback on March 13, 2012, 09:17:01 PM
Carlton are unfit in comparison.

This is how or why we could win.

Riiiiight, and you tip a bucket on TM posts.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 13, 2012, 09:31:55 PM
Without under estimating the opposition (who deep down I think are overated anyway) I honestly think Carlton are going into round one a little underdone.

Have they even managed to play their full squad yet??

Judd might of burned the training track up but how have him, Murph, Giggs, McLean, Carazzo gone......I know Kruz went ok in one game, but gee they seem off it so far...

Ox is onto it, thats what I think too...

Re-posted from the other thread  ;D

I know I am supposed to be "quasi" banned

But in answer to your question the answer is NO

But Gibbs was on Ch7 news this evening and said they would playing their strongest possible team this week minus Jamieson who's still injured
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on March 13, 2012, 10:02:03 PM
Without under estimating the opposition (who deep down I think are overated anyway) I honestly think Carlton are going into round one a little underdone.

Have they even managed to play their full squad yet??

Judd might of burned the training track up but how have him, Murph, Giggs, McLean, Carazzo gone......I know Kruz went ok in one game, but gee they seem off it so far...

Ox is onto it, thats what I think too...

Re-posted from the other thread  ;D

I know I am supposed to be "quasi" banned

But in answer to your question the answer is NO

But Gibbs was on Ch7 news this evening and said they would playing their strongest possible team this week minus Jamieson who's still injured


 :lol.............Well then, lets see how they go, both us and them at near full stregth, barring a couple.
Title: Blues underdone for opener against Tigers (Australian)
Post by: one-eyed on March 14, 2012, 03:18:27 AM
Blues underdone for opener against Tigers

    by: Greg Denham
    From: The Australian
    March 14, 2012


WIDELY touted as a premiership contender, Carlton could limp into the new season with three key players under injury doubts.

Half-back Jeremy Laidler (knee), already ruled out for the first two or three rounds, could be joined on the sidelines by stuff Michael Jamison, ruckman Robbie Warnock and forward-midfielder Andrew Walker.

With the Blues' first premiership match of the season just 15 days away, the high-profile trio are running out of time to be fit to play against Richmond under lights at the MCG.

Full article at: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/blues-underdone-for-opener-against-tigers/story-fnca0u4y-1226298608623
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on March 14, 2012, 04:09:09 AM
My God WP what did I say in my other post.........underdone.....mate my preseason is going great :lol
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Willy on March 14, 2012, 10:27:51 AM
Apparently Jamo is 50/50 to play against us. At best, he is going to be very underdone. Good news for us because he is critical to their defensive structure.

Better watch out for this fella!

(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2010/06/05/1225875/839757-pn-new-jack-riewoldt.jpg)
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Stripes on March 14, 2012, 11:09:40 AM
I'm finding it hard to force myself to believe we have any chance at all particularly given the Blues have improved their midfield lineup from last year. Their injuries and converse preseason form  compared to ourselves have my hopes soaring but this game has a tendency of smashing my expectations every single year! God I hope we can laugh in those Carlton supporters faces this year  :pray :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Mr Magic on March 14, 2012, 11:31:39 AM
Better watch out for this fella!

Yep that fella looks to be back. Must play at CHF.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: 10 FLAGS on March 14, 2012, 01:29:04 PM
I hope all of carltons underdone players play in r1.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Smokey on March 14, 2012, 06:47:11 PM
I hope they're all fighting fit and we still smash them.  Give the cheating pr1cks no excuses except karma's a bitch.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: one-eyed on March 15, 2012, 02:09:56 AM
KEY Carlton defender Michael Jamison indicated yesterday he was unlikely to play in the opening round against Richmond.

Source: Herald Sun, 15-03-2012, Pg: 86


Jamison in no rush to take on Tigers

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/jamison-in-no-rush-to-take-on-tigers/story-fnca0u4y-1226299752139
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: cub on March 15, 2012, 03:21:06 AM
This is just an example of the poop I put up with - Dude at works supercoach team BluesbunnysKBtiges .
Cmon Tiges let me lose on this prik
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Owl on March 15, 2012, 04:54:41 PM
but we want you to win, not lose...
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: cub on March 16, 2012, 11:32:11 AM
oops loose
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: one-eyed on March 16, 2012, 02:24:03 PM
Be there as the rivalry continues
richmondfc.com.au
Fri 16 Mar, 2012



This year, the two clubs are inviting their fans to ‘Be there for the beginning’, when the 2012 AFL season kicks off.

The build-up to the game will feature a march to the MCG, with supporters of both teams meeting at the famous stadium before the action begins.

Tiger fans are invited to the ME Bank Centre, Punt Road Oval, from 4pm, for a warm-up kick before the march starts.  Blues fans will start their march from Federation Square and the Tigers supporters will depart Punt Rd at 6.40pm.

Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/130809/default.aspx
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on March 16, 2012, 03:52:43 PM
Be there as the rivalry continues
richmondfc.com.au
Fri 16 Mar, 2012



This year, the two clubs are inviting their fans to ‘Be there for the beginning’, when the 2012 AFL season kicks off.

The build-up to the game will feature a march to the MCG, with supporters of both teams meeting at the famous stadium before the action begins.

Tiger fans are invited to the ME Bank Centre, Punt Road Oval, from 4pm, for a warm-up kick before the march starts.  Blues fans will start their march from Federation Square and the Tigers supporters will depart Punt Rd at 6.40pm.

Full article at: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/130809/default.aspx

Soccer anyone?
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: 1965 on March 17, 2012, 08:09:38 AM


I just purchased reserve seats next to the cheer squad for myself and no 1 son.

Am I mad?

 :lol
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Owl on March 17, 2012, 09:26:40 AM
Definately, very zany stuff right there.  I bet one of your eyeballs is bigger than the other.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on March 17, 2012, 09:46:37 AM
Could be worse, sitting in front of the grog squad
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Penelope on March 17, 2012, 09:48:40 AM
 :lol
i reckon poor ol '65 would be curled up in the foetal position by 1/4 time if he was within earshot of the grog squad
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Owl on March 17, 2012, 09:50:19 AM
probably not the best place to for your nipper either lol
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: gerkin greg on March 17, 2012, 10:11:36 AM
Definately, very zany stuff right there.  I bet one of your eyeballs is bigger than the other.

 :lol

Someone has been on the googy eggs this morning
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: 10 FLAGS on March 17, 2012, 10:15:37 AM
probably not the best place to for your nipper either lol

the kid has to learn the language of the working class sooner or later. he may as well be taught by the grog squad who will give the kid a fuller array of the language. better value for money IMHO  :lol
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: 1965 on March 17, 2012, 10:40:56 AM
probably not the best place to for your nipper either lol

The "nipper" is a 6' 2" 25yo engineer.

I think he will cope.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: 10 FLAGS on March 17, 2012, 10:56:07 AM
probably not the best place to for your nipper either lol

The "nipper" is a 6' 2" 25yo engineer.

I think he will cope.

 :thumbsup

better late than never  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Jackstar is back again on March 17, 2012, 03:18:22 PM


I just purchased reserve seats next to the cheer squad for myself and no 1 son.

Am I mad?

 :lol

will keep an eye on you from one level up ;)
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Coach on March 17, 2012, 03:28:59 PM
probably not the best place to for your nipper either lol

The "nipper" is a 6' 2" 25yo engineer.

I think he will cope.

 :thumbsup

Is Rhett Jordon your son :shh
Title: 5 Blues to miss round 1 clash (Courier Mail)
Post by: one-eyed on March 17, 2012, 03:58:15 PM
Back to the topic ...


Andrew Walker, Michael Jamison add to Carlton's injury woes

    Glenn McFarlane
    From: Herald Sun
    March 17, 2012 1:10PM


CARLTON has suffered a major blow ahead of its Round 1 clash with Richmond with four key players -- Andrew Walker, Michael Jamison, Nick Duigan and Robbie Warnock -- being ruled out today.

Blues football operations manager Andrew McKay confirmed that all four will miss the Tigers' game on March 29, leaving the club without at least five of its best 22.

The quartet will join Jeremy Laider, who suffered a knee injury in the NAB Cup game against the Western Bulldogs, on the sidelines.

But despite the losses the injury-ravaged Blues remain $1.30 favourites with TAB Sportsbet, while the Tigers are at $3.45 to win.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/andrw-walker-michael-jamison-add-to-carltons-injury-woes/story-e6frepf6-1226302472145
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on March 17, 2012, 03:59:29 PM
$3.45 is a great pay day.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: 1965 on March 17, 2012, 04:01:05 PM
probably not the best place to for your nipper either lol

The "nipper" is a 6' 2" 25yo engineer.

I think he will cope.

 :thumbsup

Is Rhett Jordon your son :shh

Rhett is an unemployed first year PE teacher.

Not a bad one either.

 :thumbsup

But no, not my son.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 17, 2012, 04:46:22 PM
$3.45 is a great pay day.

Depending on what the filth do with Nought we may be around $2 by the time Thursday week arrives.

Let's just keep a lid on things. :shh
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on March 17, 2012, 07:06:13 PM
$3.45 is a great pay day.

Depending on what the filth do with Nought we may be around $2 by the time Thursday week arrives.

Let's just keep a lid on things. :shh

Get on the Tiges at $3.25 to make the top 8  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: acefreemok on March 17, 2012, 09:23:19 PM
After some advice guys...
For the first time, signed up me and my 7 year old son as members... (If for no other reason to force me to turn up for the home matches)...
For the match against Carlton I have a couple of questions:

a) Is there a risk that GA members can't get in...
b) What will the seating be like for GA members...
c) Is it worth upgrading?

Cheers guys...
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: mightytiges on March 17, 2012, 10:33:47 PM
After some advice guys...
For the first time, signed up me and my 7 year old son as members... (If for no other reason to force me to turn up for the home matches)...
Great stuff Ace and welcome aboard OER  :)

For the match against Carlton I have a couple of questions:

a) Is there a risk that GA members can't get in...
b) What will the seating be like for GA members...
c) Is it worth upgrading?

Cheers guys...
a)  It depends on the crowd obviously. If the bandwagon pushes the crowd above 80-85k+ then there's a risk. Sometimes the AFL will say in that situation that the game's ticketed so people don't get locked out.
b) A 80k+ crowd usually means back of the top deck of the Southern Stand or Ponsford Stand unless you get there when the gates open (3 hours early). If you don't care about a seat you can always stand at the back on the ground level. Join the ferals ;D at the back behind the Richmond end goals. When I go by myself I stand with some people I know at the bay one over from the grog squad. Good fun with the chanting although the language at times might be not suitable for a 7 year old  ;D.
c) If you would like the same guaranteed seat every week and the convenience of being able to turn up to the 'G at the last minute without having to worry about finding a seat then it's worth it I guess. Of course it costs more so that's a personal decision.
c)
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: 1965 on March 17, 2012, 10:57:57 PM
After some advice guys...
For the first time, signed up me and my 7 year old son as members... (If for no other reason to force me to turn up for the home matches)...
Great stuff Ace and welcome aboard OER  :)

For the match against Carlton I have a couple of questions:

a) Is there a risk that GA members can't get in...
b) What will the seating be like for GA members...
c) Is it worth upgrading?

Cheers guys...
a)  It depends on the crowd obviously. If the bandwagon pushes the crowd above 80-85k+ then there's a risk. Sometimes the AFL will say in that situation that the game's ticketed so people don't get locked out.
b) A 80k+ crowd usually means back of the top deck of the Southern Stand or Ponsford Stand unless you get there when the gates open (3 hours early). If you don't care about a seat you can always stand at the back on the ground level. Join the ferals ;D at the back behind the Richmond end goals. When I go by myself I stand with some people I know at the bay one over from the grog squad. Good fun with the chanting although the language at times might be not suitable for a 7 year old  ;D.
c) If you would like the same guaranteed seat every week and the convenience of being able to turn up to the 'G at the last minute without having to worry about finding a seat then it's worth it I guess. Of course it costs more so that's a personal decision.
c)

The upgrade from a RFC membership to a reserved seat (for the Carlton match) is only $14.35.

There were seats left on level 1 of the Southern stand (RFC cheer squad end) or the Ponsford stand (with the scum followers).

Car park fills up prettyy quick so public transport is the way to go.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: mightytiges on March 17, 2012, 11:05:43 PM
After some advice guys...
For the first time, signed up me and my 7 year old son as members... (If for no other reason to force me to turn up for the home matches)...
Great stuff Ace and welcome aboard OER  :)

For the match against Carlton I have a couple of questions:

a) Is there a risk that GA members can't get in...
b) What will the seating be like for GA members...
c) Is it worth upgrading?

Cheers guys...
a)  It depends on the crowd obviously. If the bandwagon pushes the crowd above 80-85k+ then there's a risk. Sometimes the AFL will say in that situation that the game's ticketed so people don't get locked out.
b) A 80k+ crowd usually means back of the top deck of the Southern Stand or Ponsford Stand unless you get there when the gates open (3 hours early). If you don't care about a seat you can always stand at the back on the ground level. Join the ferals ;D at the back behind the Richmond end goals. When I go by myself I stand with some people I know at the bay one over from the grog squad. Good fun with the chanting although the language at times might be not suitable for a 7 year old  ;D.
c) If you would like the same guaranteed seat every week and the convenience of being able to turn up to the 'G at the last minute without having to worry about finding a seat then it's worth it I guess. Of course it costs more so that's a personal decision.
c)

The upgrade from a RFC membership to a reserved seat (for the Carlton match) is only $14.35.

There were seats left on level 1 of the Southern stand (RFC cheer squad end) or the Ponsford stand (with the scum followers).

Car park fills up prettyy quick so public transport is the way to go.

 :thumbsup
Apart from the 88k for Cuz's first game, the average crowd for round 1 has been between 70-75k so there's still been plenty of room for GA. Once the crowd gets to or above 80-85k then the GA sections fill up quickly.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: yellowandback on March 18, 2012, 08:09:58 AM
$3.45 is a great pay day.

Depending on what the filth do with Nought we may be around $2 by the time Thursday week arrives.

Let's just keep a lid on things. :shh

It's a casserole  :shh
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on March 18, 2012, 08:47:03 AM
After some advice guys...
For the first time, signed up me and my 7 year old son as members... (If for no other reason to force me to turn up for the home matches)...

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: one-eyed on March 18, 2012, 03:23:52 PM
Petrie has kicked 7 goals against the Blues today. No Jamieson really leaves a big hole in the Carlton's defence. A fit and firing Jumpin' Jack is awaiting them in round 1  :thumbsup.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on March 18, 2012, 03:56:06 PM
Unleash carnage on the filth!
Blues supporters are still quite confident though from the ones I've spoken too
Some of which have told me not to turn up unless I want to be dissapointed again  ::)

In my eyes this game is 50/50 until its won
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: smasha on March 18, 2012, 04:53:28 PM
Need every lung at the game.

Need to bring the BS chant back. ;D

Get into em.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: tiger101 on March 18, 2012, 04:56:27 PM
Unleash carnage on the filth!
Blues supporters are still quite confident though from the ones I've spoken too
Some of which have told me not to turn up unless I want to be dissapointed again  ::)

In my eyes this game is 50/50 until its won

Agree with all of this. Carlton supports still seem confident of beating us(in reality why wouldn't they be they have had the wood over us). I see the game still at 50/50 as well. I've learn't over the years as many others have not to buy into the hype.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: yellowandback on March 18, 2012, 07:01:34 PM
Fact is Carlton were beaten by 5 sides who actually finished outside the 8 last year.
Eagles played GF, Magpies won 3? Hawks won 4, Cats 3? So all the excuses in the world can be made by Carlton for their players but this would not have been in the grand plan.

Can you smell what they are cooking? I think it's burnt.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Owl on March 18, 2012, 07:16:42 PM
We will dismantle them
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on March 18, 2012, 07:57:52 PM
Done again today by 16 against Norf.....

Must put negatives in their mind heading into round 1.... Nab, preseason call it what you want they will have this preseason in the back of their minds.........ripe for the picking this year.....just ripe.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Stripes on March 18, 2012, 08:17:05 PM
Will all come down to the midfield battle and most importantly the ruck duel. They have their second tier ruck line up in but even so it will be an interesting challenge. We have more chance this time than for years - bring it home Tigers  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 18, 2012, 08:43:59 PM
Petrie has kicked 7 goals against the Blues today. No Jamieson really leaves a big hole in the Carlton's defence. A fit and firing Jumpin' Jack is awaiting them in round 1  :thumbsup.

Jamison didn't play in the FTF game last year and we know what hapenned there.
Furthermore in the week leading up to the FTF game Jack had tweeted with no Jamison he should have a big one.
Its a new year I know and we have had a bloody good pre season lets hope the boys don't get complacent. Pre season is now officially over. We still have to play well to beat them.

I want to dismantle this filth just to get something back on this filth club for them being at the core of some of our most defining moments.
Team needs to stay focused with their feet on the ground and their minds on the job and we should be right. :thumbsup

Filth in round 1 Sums in round 2 and bums at Dreamtime. :gotigers
Filth scums and bums.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: bojangles17 on March 18, 2012, 10:10:09 PM
Its a must win game this, really want to get the season off to a good start then win the next 5 or 6 after that, wouldnt suprise me if we did either :shh
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Willy on March 18, 2012, 10:23:12 PM
I am feeling more and more confident with each day. It's freaking me out.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on March 19, 2012, 11:54:36 AM
I have taken the $3.50 from Sportingbet as I only think we will come in.  Im thinking of taking the $4.00 for top eight because if we beat Carlton it will come in too but if we loose then it should drift after maybe a 1-4 start. Not sure what to do there.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Penelope on March 19, 2012, 12:00:50 PM
can you take a double fluffy?

just keep some coin for if we loose, to take advantage of the higher odds. by round 5 the odds for making the finals will either blow out or shorten, id guess
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Stripes on March 19, 2012, 12:28:42 PM
All this growing confidence makes me nervous  :o :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on March 19, 2012, 12:44:19 PM
All this growing confidence makes me nervous  :o :thumbsup

Me too stripes as we have seen it all before. I just have the feeling we are on the right track for a change. Before I have seen light at end of the tunnel but this time I think I can see the end of the tunnel itself.  Im going to try and let the feeling roll over me this year and enjoy every min (well thats the plan) :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on March 19, 2012, 01:40:41 PM
can you take a double fluffy?

just keep some coin for if we loose, to take advantage of the higher odds. by round 5 the odds for making the finals will either blow out or shorten, id guess

I had a double fluffy this morning after too many beers last night!
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: MintOnLamb on March 19, 2012, 01:43:12 PM
I can't stand it, going with 1 carlton idiot to the game, if we lose where does the line for the West Gate Bridge start. I am copping so much stuff it is unbearable, the worst one??
Anticappointment - definition.  A tiger supporter at the start and end of game 1 home and away season.

Herald Sun, we are plastered all over it pre season as it boosts their sales.

If we win the Carlton supporter buys a RFC membership and vice versa. PLeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease win.

On paper we look good, on the field we look good, on our matchups we look good, on the scoreboard ?
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Penelope on March 19, 2012, 03:52:27 PM
can you take a double fluffy?

just keep some coin for if we loose, to take advantage of the higher odds. by round 5 the odds for making the finals will either blow out or shorten, id guess

I had a double fluffy this morning after too many beers last night!
:lol
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on March 19, 2012, 04:26:39 PM
can you take a double fluffy?

just keep some coin for if we loose, to take advantage of the higher odds. by round 5 the odds for making the finals will either blow out or shorten, id guess

I had a double fluffy this morning after too many beers last night!

Made my day   :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 19, 2012, 06:46:05 PM
can you take a double fluffy?

just keep some coin for if we loose, to take advantage of the higher odds. by round 5 the odds for making the finals will either blow out or shorten, id guess

I had a double fluffy this morning after too many beers last night!

Hey fluffy what hapenned to your avatar? Hope she hasn't gotten dressed and gone home. :-\

Made my day   :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Upgraded Tigers duo a tall order for Blues (Australian)
Post by: one-eyed on March 23, 2012, 05:07:15 AM
Upgraded Tigers duo Brad Miller and Addam Maric a tall order for Blues

    by: Greg Denham
    From: The Australian
    March 23, 2012


RICHMOND has given a strong indication of its likely line-up to play Carlton in the opening MCG match of the season on Thursday.

And it's not all good news for the Blues and their makeshift defence, forced on them in round one because of a spate of injuries.

The Tigers will upgrade rookie-list players Brad Miller and Addam Maric, almost certainly meaning they will go with a tall forward structure in an attempt to exploit Carlton's extended injury list, where its backline appears particularly vulnerable.

Miller is in his second season with Richmond after 133 games in nine years with Melbourne, while his former Demons teammate is a strong chance to debut for the Tigers next week after 21 games in four seasons with Melbourne.

Richmond general manager of football operations Craig Cameron yesterday said Miller and Maric would be upgraded to the primary list in place of Kelvin Moore and Dean MacDonald, who have been placed on the long-term injury list.

"They've earned their spots with their good form in the pre-season, and they are obviously in contention for a game next week," Cameron said. "You can make what you want of the upgrades, but we're not picking our side until next week."

Miller, who played 14 senior games for the Tigers last season but none against Carlton in their two clashes last year, will almost certainly be part of a three-pronged tall-forward structure, which will include Jack Riewoldt and back-up ruckman Ty Vickery.

Last year the trio kicked 115 of the Tigers' 300 goals, headed by Riewoldt's 62 goals, while Vickery's contribution was 36.

Carlton's backline has been decimated by injuries to Michael Jamison (back stress reaction), Jeremy Laidler (knee), Nick Duigan (knee) and Simon White (hamstring), leaving it with only four other tall options -- Lachie Henderson, Paul Bower, Matthew Watson and Bret Thornton.

The Blues, who have beaten the Tigers in their past seven encounters, will also be missing Andrew Walker (quadriceps) and ruckman Robert Warnock (shoulders).

Jamison, Matthew Kreuzer and Jarrad Waite have not played together since round 13, 2010.

Carlton hopes Jamison will be fit to resume by round three against Collingwood at the MCG.

The Tigers will introduce up to three new faces against Carlton if Maric and Steven Morris join former Crows ruckman Ivan Maric.

Morris was recruited from the SANFL and traded to the Tigers via Greater Western Sydney last year. The club's first national draft selection in November, Brandon Ellis, is also a chance to make his debut next week.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/upgraded-tigers-duo-a-tall-order-for-blues/story-fnca0u4y-1226307658466
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: rogerd3 on March 23, 2012, 11:15:53 AM
oh dear, already hearing that their backline decimated by injury

by the time the game comes round we will be that talked up by the media

just hope it doesnt end with a huge THUD...

Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: one-eyed on March 23, 2012, 11:58:47 AM
The weather forecast for Thursday is 24 degrees and fine.

The goal posts have gone up at the 'G btw so all is ready for a Tiger rampage  ;D

(http://s1-03.twitpicproxy.com/photos/large/544057102.jpg?key=1024768)
http://twitpic.com/8zx15a
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: 10 FLAGS on March 23, 2012, 12:39:45 PM
I agree with the Wizard of Oz here its time we saw some rampaging tigers  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on March 23, 2012, 02:18:59 PM
I have taken the $3.50 from Sportingbet as I only think we will come in.  Im thinking of taking the $4.00 for top eight because if we beat Carlton it will come in too but if we loose then it should drift after maybe a 1-4 start. Not sure what to do there.

Already come in to $2.90, Im thinking by game time it will be about $2.60
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: rogerd3 on March 23, 2012, 03:54:13 PM
just wanna see us up pump this mob
right out of the ground.



Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on March 23, 2012, 07:44:47 PM
Well its worked out excellent for me....It just so happens that I will be in Brisbane when this game is on, finally I get to watch a game on TV...... ;D :lol.....

Might be watching many more, even live, should my tour turn out successful... ;) :shh
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Loui Tufga on March 23, 2012, 07:48:51 PM
Well its worked out excellent for me....It just so happens that I will be in Brisbane when this game is on, finally I get to watch a game on TV...... ;D :lol.....

Might be watching many more, even live, should my tour turn out successful... ;) :shh

 :o :o :o Can't wait for the meet and greet :thumbsup :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Coach on March 23, 2012, 07:50:10 PM
Well its worked out excellent for me....It just so happens that I will be in Brisbane when this game is on, finally I get to watch a game on TV...... ;D :lol.....

Might be watching many more, even live, should my tour turn out successful... ;) :shh

Does that mean you have something to base your opinions on now rather than going ape poo over things you're unable to watch?

:cheers
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on March 23, 2012, 07:52:48 PM
Well its worked out excellent for me....It just so happens that I will be in Brisbane when this game is on, finally I get to watch a game on TV...... ;D :lol.....

Might be watching many more, even live, should my tour turn out successful... ;) :shh

 :o :o :o Can't wait for the meet and greet :thumbsup :thumbsup

Very good.....yes likewise TFT, will keep you informed after the visit!!! :thumbsup

Actually Brisbane will be on the way to where I end up but if successfull, we will move there, I will FIFO!!
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on March 23, 2012, 07:53:48 PM
Well its worked out excellent for me....It just so happens that I will be in Brisbane when this game is on, finally I get to watch a game on TV...... ;D :lol.....

Might be watching many more, even live, should my tour turn out successful... ;) :shh

Does that mean you have something to base your opinions on now rather than going ape poo over things you're unable to watch?

:cheers

No my opinions will still be based on my crappy thought process.... :lol
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: one-eyed on March 24, 2012, 12:54:50 AM
(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2012/03/23/1226308/561799-matthew-kreuzer.jpg)
Picture: Michael Dodge Herald Sun

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/carlton-to-revel-in-its-ruck-riches-in-2012/story-fnctrk3q-1226308562784
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on March 24, 2012, 05:47:52 AM
(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2012/03/23/1226308/561799-matthew-kreuzer.jpg)
Picture: Michael Dodge Herald Sun

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/carlton-to-revel-in-its-ruck-riches-in-2012/story-fnctrk3q-1226308562784

Look at those typical dodgy Carlton turds on the right. Youd shake their hands and have to count your fingers afterwards. Used car salesman, vacuum cleaner salesman, banned real estate agent, pawn broker.....not to mention the three little pick pockets down the front
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on March 24, 2012, 07:49:29 AM
was thinking the same thing dooks
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Owl on March 24, 2012, 09:17:50 AM
lol
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Willy on March 24, 2012, 09:44:31 AM
The tiger-goth is Hully's daughter.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on March 24, 2012, 09:46:49 AM
The tiger-goth is Hully's daughter.

Oh dear!
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: gerkin greg on March 24, 2012, 12:08:24 PM
Step daughter. Tried the Woody Allen move but it didn't quite work out.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 24, 2012, 12:12:02 PM
Dooks that's some of your finest work there. :lol :rollin :lol
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: gerkin greg on March 24, 2012, 12:44:59 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/richmonds-jake-king-still-wondering-why-he-must-sit-out-round-1/story-fnctrk3q-1226308609085

JAKE King is still wondering why he must sit out Richmond's opening game against Carlton on Thursday night.

(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2012/02/24/1226280/950477-jake-king.jpg)

King was condemned to make another late start to a season after his failed challenge at the AFL Tribunal last August.

The tough Tiger could not convince the tribunal to overturn a two-match suspension for rough conduct after his sling tackle on Adelaide's Andy Otten in Round 23.

This last tribunal sitting to adjudicate on a suspension is an example of why clubs increasingly believe that fighting a charge on Tuesday nights is a futile exercise.

Poring over my notes from the hearing, I'm still puzzled how the jury upheld the charge and the penalty.

more...
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/richmonds-jake-king-still-wondering-why-he-must-sit-out-round-1/story-fnctrk3q-1226308609085
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 24, 2012, 12:59:42 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/richmonds-jake-king-still-wondering-why-he-must-sit-out-round-1/story-fnctrk3q-1226308609085

JAKE King is still wondering why he must sit out Richmond's opening game against Carlton on Thursday night.

(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2012/02/24/1226280/950477-jake-king.jpg)

King was condemned to make another late start to a season after his failed challenge at the AFL Tribunal last August.

The tough Tiger could not convince the tribunal to overturn a two-match suspension for rough conduct after his sling tackle on Adelaide's Andy Otten in Round 23.

This last tribunal sitting to adjudicate on a suspension is an example of why clubs increasingly believe that fighting a charge on Tuesday nights is a futile exercise.

Poring over my notes from the hearing, I'm still puzzled how the jury upheld the charge and the penalty.

more...
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/richmonds-jake-king-still-wondering-why-he-must-sit-out-round-1/story-fnctrk3q-1226308609085

I am sure we can return the favour to the Adelaide Footy Club some day soon. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Penelope on March 24, 2012, 01:00:51 PM
do you have to subscribe to read this article?

Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 24, 2012, 01:05:14 PM
Page filler, time filler nuffer article al.

Too many journos writing too much crap.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Penelope on March 24, 2012, 01:07:54 PM
 :lol
which is why there is no way in hell i will pay money for the "privilege" to read it.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 24, 2012, 01:13:53 PM
:lol
which is why there is no way in hell i will pay money for the "privilege" to read it.

Which is why we come to OER for free and then take the "privilege to comment on it.
Now that's democracy for you. :lol :rollin :lol
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: yellowandback on March 24, 2012, 05:47:32 PM
:lol
which is why there is no way in hell i will pay money for the "privilege" to read it.

Which is why we come to OER for free and then take the "privilege to comment on it.
Now that's democracy for you. :lol :rollin :lol
:thumbsup they have an inflated opinion of their worth.

Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on March 24, 2012, 06:05:06 PM
Well its worked out excellent for me....It just so happens that I will be in Brisbane when this game is on, finally I get to watch a game on TV...... ;D :lol.....

Might be watching many more, even live, should my tour turn out successful... ;) :shh

 :o :o :o Can't wait for the meet and greet :thumbsup :thumbsup

Hey TFT, what time and channel is the game on in Brissy please mate??

Cheers
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Loui Tufga on March 24, 2012, 06:31:45 PM
Well its worked out excellent for me....It just so happens that I will be in Brisbane when this game is on, finally I get to watch a game on TV...... ;D :lol.....

Might be watching many more, even live, should my tour turn out successful... ;) :shh

 :o :o :o Can't wait for the meet and greet :thumbsup :thumbsup

You don't have foxtel then......

Hey TFT, what time and channel is the game on in Brissy please mate??

Cheers
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on March 24, 2012, 06:34:56 PM
Well its worked out excellent for me....It just so happens that I will be in Brisbane when this game is on, finally I get to watch a game on TV...... ;D :lol.....

Might be watching many more, even live, should my tour turn out successful... ;) :shh

 :o :o :o Can't wait for the meet and greet :thumbsup :thumbsup

You don't have foxtel then......

Hey TFT, what time and channel is the game on in Brissy please mate??

Cheers

Not sure I am staying in a hotel that night, I just looked it up, AFL site says live on foxtel and 7 mate, would that be right??

Also, whats the weather like?
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Loui Tufga on March 24, 2012, 06:40:31 PM
Well its worked out excellent for me....It just so happens that I will be in Brisbane when this game is on, finally I get to watch a game on TV...... ;D :lol.....

Might be watching many more, even live, should my tour turn out successful... ;) :shh

 :o :o :o Can't wait for the meet and greet :thumbsup :thumbsup

You don't have foxtel then......

Hey TFT, what time and channel is the game on in Brissy please mate??

Cheers

Not sure I am staying in a hotel that night, I just looked it up, AFL site says live on foxtel and 7 mate, would that be right??

Also, whats the weather like?

Hang on? I think you have got he wrong vibe from somewhere :huh where I am there was snow on my doorstep this morning and foot long icicles hanging off the gutters! I would be berry happy to see some Brisbane weather here at the moment :o :o

And yes, footy will be live into Brisbane on 7 mate from 6.30 ;)
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on March 24, 2012, 06:56:12 PM
Well its worked out excellent for me....It just so happens that I will be in Brisbane when this game is on, finally I get to watch a game on TV...... ;D :lol.....

Might be watching many more, even live, should my tour turn out successful... ;) :shh

 :o :o :o Can't wait for the meet and greet :thumbsup :thumbsup

You don't have foxtel then......

Hey TFT, what time and channel is the game on in Brissy please mate??

Cheers

Not sure I am staying in a hotel that night, I just looked it up, AFL site says live on foxtel and 7 mate, would that be right??

Also, whats the weather like?

Hang on? I think you have got he wrong vibe from somewhere :huh where I am there was snow on my doorstep this morning and foot long icicles hanging off the gutters! I would be berry happy to see some Brisbane weather here at the moment :o :o

And yes, footy will be live into Brisbane on 7 mate from 6.30 ;)

 :lol, looks like I have then....thought you were there going by the "meet and greet" in your other post..

Anyway cheers for the info mate!!
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Loui Tufga on March 24, 2012, 06:58:15 PM
Don't worrie, I'm on Drugs.......... :cheers :cheers
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on March 24, 2012, 07:04:49 PM
Don't worrie, I'm on Drugs.......... :cheers :cheers

Aren't we all..... :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on March 24, 2012, 07:44:18 PM
Don't worrie, I'm on Drugs.......... :cheers :cheers

I'll have what he's having  ;)
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Loui Tufga on March 24, 2012, 08:19:51 PM
Don't worrie, I'm on Drugs.......... :cheers :cheers

I'll have what he's having  ;)

At the moment it's Ice :o
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on March 24, 2012, 08:23:42 PM
Don't worrie, I'm on Drugs.......... :cheers :cheers

I'll have what he's having  ;)

At the moment it's Ice :o

How disappointment. I had literally just located a non-collapsed vein in anticipation  :-\
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: gerkin greg on March 25, 2012, 07:18:57 AM
do you have to subscribe to read this article?

Pro tip:

Copy and paste the article headline into google and click on the first link that comes up. Circumnavigates the pay wall.
= Free HSun  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Penelope on March 25, 2012, 09:00:01 AM
sounded good in theory gerks........
Title: Mick Malthouse backs Richmond to beat Carlton (AAP)
Post by: one-eyed on March 25, 2012, 07:07:06 PM
Mick Malthouse backs Richmond to beat Carlton in Round 1

    Roger Vaughan
    From: AAP
    March 25, 2012


FORMER Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse rates Richmond a big chance to break its losing streak against Carlton.

The Tigers will be outsiders when they open the regular season on Thursday night in its now-traditional blockbuster against the Blues at the MCG.

Richmond have had an encouraging pre-season and the re-signing of coach Damien Hardwick earlier this month is a major boost to morale.

But it has lost the past seven matches against its arch-rivals.

Richmond's last win over Carlton was in round one, 2008.

Carlton will go into the game missing five of their best 22 through injury - ruckman Robbie Warnock, forward Andrew Walker and defenders Michael Jamison, Nick Duigan and Jeremy Laidler.

Malthouse said the absence of the three defenders would be particularly concerning for the Blues.

"If Richmond are going to win that game ... it's got to be this time," Malthouse said on Channel Seven's Game Day.

"They have the form and Carlton's backline has been hit hard.

"It doesn't matter - you can always have first-choice players out, but when it's first, second and third backline players, they're very hard to replace.

"That chemistry is so important to them."

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/mick-malthouse-backs-richmond-to-beat-carlton-in-round-1/story-e6freck3-1226309531621
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: bojangles17 on March 25, 2012, 09:41:53 PM
put it this way , weve pretty well got our best 22 on the park. I reckon if Jack and vickers can kick 8 or more between them, Cotch, Martin, Foley and Lids can get on top  then whoa, LOOK OUT :shh
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: yellowandback on March 25, 2012, 09:57:17 PM
do you have to subscribe to read this article?

Pro tip:

Copy and paste the article headline into google and click on the first link that comes up. Circumnavigates the pay wall.
= Free HSun  :thumbsup

That is Gerkalicious  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: tony_montana on March 25, 2012, 10:33:46 PM
Most experts are tipping us, it's hilarious.... I'm very keen to see how the team handles this build up, will we believe the hype and go out just expecting it to happen? or will we go out and MAKE it happen? Silly as this sounds, this is a big test of our team character IMO, a team truly hungry and desperate to climb the ladder should come out breathing fire, all too often in the past these are the times this club has folded under the heat waiting for it to happen.

I'm starting to get pumped now, bring it and don't let us down tigers, big effort is all I ask
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 25, 2012, 10:34:52 PM
We know what we can potentially do and we know who won't be playing for the filth.

In four days we'll know lots about us and our prospects for 2012 which I am sure will be positive.

This is just such a low key approach by us. The journos are writing their crap and we are not going

out of our way to amplify it. I like this approach and to me its the most serious the club has been

in a very long time. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 25, 2012, 10:38:56 PM
Most experts are tipping us, it's hilarious.... I'm very keen to see how the team handles this build up, will we believe the hype and go out just expecting it to happen? or will we go out and MAKE it happen? Silly as this sounds, this is a big test of our team character IMO, a team truly hungry and desperate to climb the ladder should come out breathing fire, all too often in the past these are the times this club has folded under the heat waiting for it to happen.

I'm starting to get pumped now, bring it and don't let us down tigers, big effort is all I ask

I would call them experts TM. Some are just muckracking and hoping we fail to supplement some enjoyment into their pathetic little lives.

The low key approach the club has taken is refreshing and correct. Dimma will let the kids do the talking on Thursday night.

One way or another whether the result goes our way or doesn't on Thursday night there will not be the thud we heard about 15 minutes into the first quarter in the corresponding fixture a number of years back.

I am slowly building up to this right now I am just quiet but by Thursday I'll be a raging bull full of adrenalin. I hope the selected 22 for the RFC think feel that way too. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: tony_montana on March 25, 2012, 10:46:41 PM
Most experts are tipping us, it's hilarious.... I'm very keen to see how the team handles this build up, will we believe the hype and go out just expecting it to happen? or will we go out and MAKE it happen? Silly as this sounds, this is a big test of our team character IMO, a team truly hungry and desperate to climb the ladder should come out breathing fire, all too often in the past these are the times this club has folded under the heat waiting for it to happen.

I'm starting to get pumped now, bring it and don't let us down tigers, big effort is all I ask

I would call them experts TM. Some are just muckracking and hoping we fail to supplement some enjoyment into their pathetic little lives.

The low key approach the club has taken is refreshing and correct. Dimma will let the kids do the talking on Thursday night.

One way or another whether the result goes our way or doesn't on Thursday night there will not be the thud we heard about 15 minutes into the first quarter in the corresponding fixture a number of years back.

I am slowly building up to this right now I am just quiet but by Thursday I'll be a raging bull full of adrenalin. I hope the selected 22 for the RFC think feel that way too. :thumbsup

No doubt about it tuckerbag, lots of them are tipping us purely for the reason you mentioned, to build us up and then enjoy the perceived fallout. The only way that will happen is if it's another 90point shocker which I agree, won't happen.


 I've also noticed a different approach this year, we're not buying into the media hype, just ready to go.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: one-eyed on March 26, 2012, 02:46:14 AM
Carlton won't push Jarrad Waite to defence against Richmond

    Jon Ralph
    From: Herald Sun
    March 26, 2012


CARLTON will resist bolstering its injury-riddled backline with one-time defender Jarrad Waite, despite Richmond's goalkicking firepower.

The Blues have won four of their past five Round 1 encounters against Richmond but concede Michael Jamison, Nick Duigan and Jeremy Laidler will miss Thursday night's contest.

Jack Riewoldt kicked six goals in Round 1 last year with Jamison out, but the Tigers now have an array of attacking talent.

It means Lachie Henderson will have to play on Riewoldt, with re-signed Tiger tall Ty Vickery likely to benefit from a match-up with either Paul Bower or Bret Thornton.

Carlton football manager Andrew McKay said Jamison, Duigan and Laidler likely would play in the VFL next weekend.

But the Blues will back their back six in against the Tiger forwards.

"We feel as though we still have a good shot at it. Bower can play tall, Thornton can play tall, Lachie Henderson will play back, so we are confident those guys can take care of the tall blokes," McKay said.

"Who knows what happens in the game, but certainly our aim is to start Waite forward."

Five Tigers kicked more than 25 goals last season, but Richmond supporters hyping their side after an excellent NAB Cup also should recall Round 15 against Carlton last year.

In that game the Tigers were slaughtered at the centre bounces and gave up 44 scoring shots in a 103-point loss.

"The NAB Cup was a balancing act for us to get enough time into our stars as well as giving the younger guys a run," McKay said.

"We haven't got a win on the board, but at least we managed to get some guys up and running."

The Blues will consider the make-up of their side at tomorrow's match committee, having kept players in consideration out of Saturday's VFL game.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/carlton-wont-push-jarrad-waite-to-defence-against-richmond/story-e6frf9jf-1226309633950
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Tigermonk on March 26, 2012, 09:32:21 AM
Hurry up Thursday night.  :pray

 :gotigers


Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Penelope on March 26, 2012, 09:34:16 AM
Aint that the truth
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: dwaino on March 26, 2012, 10:18:09 AM
Marc Murphy on MMM this morning. They were talking to him about it being the all star mid field verses the up and coming and who normally plays on who. He said Jackson goes to Judd and he has times with Cotchin and Martin. Said something about them looking out for Foley considering his recent form suggests him going back to Foley of 2-3 years ago. Missed exactly what he said there as the compressor here conveniently kicked in.

Nothing new there, but I can't see any difference to the usual vanilla match ups.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Stripes on March 26, 2012, 02:19:53 PM
Looking at the teams as they are expected to be named. We have the biggest amount of positive changes where they have the most negative. I don't believe the game will be won or lost in our forward end though. It all comes down to Big Ivan for us really. That and our all ground press. If Maric is competitive and gives our midfielders their fair share of the ball at clearances and we keep the pressure up all overt eh ground we have a chance.

To many times in the past it has been Carltons pressure that has created turnovers which have resulted in their small forwards getting the cheapy goals over the back of our zone. We need to do this to them this game and I finally believe we have the capabilities to achieve this if we are switched on. Conversely, we now have a better chance than ever to cut through their zones given the amount of quality ball users we now possess.

I believe we can be competitive at the bare minimum but I hope like hell we finally turn the tables on those arrogant Bluebagger supporters  :pray
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Stripes on March 26, 2012, 03:31:47 PM
Just read the Carlton article interviewing Rattan and it does give me a very clear indication that he is very clear on the strategies we employed to beat Geelong so convincingly in the midfield. This above all else makes me worry. I guess it's one thing to know how a team plays and another to stop it but at least we are changing things up for this game compared to other years.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: smasha on March 26, 2012, 04:04:39 PM
Carlton won't push Jarrad Waite to defence against Richmond

    Jon Ralph
    From: Herald Sun
    March 26, 2012


CARLTON will resist bolstering its injury-riddled backline with one-time defender Jarrad Waite, despite Richmond's goalkicking firepower.

The Blues have won four of their past five Round 1 encounters against Richmond but concede Michael Jamison, Nick Duigan and Jeremy Laidler will miss Thursday night's contest.

Jack Riewoldt kicked six goals in Round 1 last year with Jamison out, but the Tigers now have an array of attacking talent.

It means Lachie Henderson will have to play on Riewoldt, with re-signed Tiger tall Ty Vickery likely to benefit from a match-up with either Paul Bower or Bret Thornton.

Carlton football manager Andrew McKay said Jamison, Duigan and Laidler likely would play in the VFL next weekend.

But the Blues will back their back six in against the Tiger forwards.

"We feel as though we still have a good shot at it. Bower can play tall, Thornton can play tall, Lachie Henderson will play back, so we are confident those guys can take care of the tall blokes," McKay said.

"Who knows what happens in the game, but certainly our aim is to start Waite forward."

Five Tigers kicked more than 25 goals last season, but Richmond supporters hyping their side after an excellent NAB Cup also should recall Round 15 against Carlton last year.

In that game the Tigers were slaughtered at the centre bounces and gave up 44 scoring shots in a 103-point loss.

"The NAB Cup was a balancing act for us to get enough time into our stars as well as giving the younger guys a run," McKay said.

"We haven't got a win on the board, but at least we managed to get some guys up and running."

The Blues will consider the size of their brown paper bags at tomorrow's match committee, having kept players in consideration out of Saturday's VFL game.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/carlton-wont-push-jarrad-waite-to-defence-against-richmond/story-e6frf9jf-1226309633950
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Penelope on March 26, 2012, 04:08:25 PM
maric major just has to be competitive.

If maric minor and nahas can match the output of betts or garlett we will go close to rolling the scum
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: dwaino on March 26, 2012, 08:39:15 PM
On the Couch just now:

Healy: Richmond will dead set beat Carlton
Roos: Due to Collingwood injury list, Collingwood could be 0-2 and Richmond 2-0.

Dwaino: knock over Melscum and Poo Power and be 4-2 and watch us all turn absolutely rotten feral and unleash 30 years of pent up frustration.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on March 26, 2012, 08:45:12 PM

Dwaino: knock over Melscum and Poo Power and be 4-2 and watch us all turn absolutely rotten feral and unleash 30 years of pent up frustration.

And if it happens, I hope all opposition pricks feel threatened by it
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on March 26, 2012, 09:43:56 PM
Does anyone know if the Maurice Rioli/social club will be open pregpost game for round 1??
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: tiger101 on March 26, 2012, 09:50:40 PM

Carlton won't push Jarrad Waite to defence against Richmond



"Who knows what happens in the game, but certainly our aim is to start Waite forward."



http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/carlton-wont-push-jarrad-waite-to-defence-against-richmond/story-e6frf9jf-1226309633950

The headline is abit misleading seeing how McKay only says he will start forward.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: cub on March 26, 2012, 09:51:03 PM
They have usually sent an email by now and I haven't seen one yet! So NFI and wont be happy if not.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on March 26, 2012, 09:54:04 PM
They have usually sent an email by now and I haven't seen one yet! So NFI and wont be happy if not.

Havnt seen an email yet either which leads me to believe they'll have nothing for rd 1.
Title: Tigers, Blues to make a statement (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on March 27, 2012, 04:01:31 AM
Tigers, Blues to make a statement
Jon Pierik
The Age/ Ballarat Courier
27 Mar, 2012


FOR Carlton and Richmond, their now traditional season-opener on Thursday night is a chance to make a statement of intent for the season, culminating in what each hopes will be an extended campaign come September.

This statement is collective and individual as there will be players from each side keen to show they belong at the elite level - whether for the first time or after being recycled - and deserve greater opportunities.

Tough defender Steven Morris and former Adelaide ruckman Ivan Maric appear to be two for the Tigers. For the Blues, recalled defenders Paul Bower and Jordan Russell will be given this opportunity as three frontline defenders - Michael Jamison, Jeremy Laidler and Nick Duigan - are still not fit.

Russell, off contract this year, was squeezed out of the line-up last season through injury, poor form and a drop in confidence.

Bower played just three senior games and struggled for momentum because of foot, quad and calf injuries and the emergence of Chris Yarran and Duigan across half-back.

He sought a trade in October but a deal could not be done. He would remain a Blue - only because Setanta O'hAilpin was cut - and be handed a modest contract.

''[Thursday night] is going to give some players the opportunity to rekindle their career with Russell down back and Bower as well, from last year to this year,'' Blues coach Brett Ratten said yesterday.

''We have spoken about that even at the start of pre-season. That was one year, now it's another season, so they can really change perception or I suppose the landscape around them in regards to how they are perceived and how they perform in 2012.''

Bower told The Sunday Age in January he had tinkered with his running technique under the tutelage of new fitness and conditioning coach Joel Hocking in a bid to avoid more injury.

''He's taken really big steps forward in regards to his versatility in the team,'' Ratten said. ''We trialled him through some different spots in the NAB Cup and been really pleased with his development in certain areas of the ground.''

Maric is seen as key for the Tigers as they were desperate for a frontline ruckman last season.

Tigers captain Chris Newman yesterday said Morris, who is the son of 1973-'74 premiership player, Kevin, had impressed through his work ethic. The small defender, 23, was secured last year after being a Greater Western Sydney pre-listed player.

It's hoped his inclusion will allow Brett Deledio to spend more time on the ball.

''He has done everything right. He is the sort of guy that always is nagging you to work on his 'extras' and definitely deserves an opportunity,'' Newman said.

''He has had some good form over the summer. He will be one of those guys you feel confident running out with because you know what you are going to get.''

Newman said Morris was indicative of where the improvement needed to come from in the team this season if the Tigers were to challenge for the top eight.

''We just need a lot of those mature-age players in the 23 to 26-year-old bracket to step up as well as the younger players,'' he said.

The Tigers will also want to make a statement after dropping their past seven matches against the Blues, including a loss by 103 points when the clubs last met, in round 15 last year.

Newman insisted that result would count for nought, as did Ratten.

Newman said he believed it was time for the Tigers to begin the season positively.

''We haven't won a first round for a few years now,'' he said. ''I would say the pressure is on us to perform.''

http://www.thecourier.com.au/news/national/national/sport/tigers-blues-to-make-a-statement/2501708.aspx?storypage=0
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on March 27, 2012, 09:10:44 AM
To give you an idea of the bandwagon that is forming:

They had a poll on SEN this morning on which club would win a flag next? Richmond or carlton?

58% of callers said tigers... The deluded band wagon has started...

Brace yourself if there's a meltdown...
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: 10 FLAGS on March 27, 2012, 09:20:03 AM
To give you an idea of the bandwagon that is forming:

They had a poll on SEN this morning on which club would win a flag next? Richmond or carlton?

58% of callers said tigers... The deluded band wagon has started...

Brace yourself if there's a meltdown...

Carlton is closer but what happens if they dont get over the line for a flag and Judd retires in 2 or 3 years. How does Carlton replace a Judd?
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Coach on March 27, 2012, 09:22:15 AM
Have you forgotten that Brock McLean is waiting in the wings :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: one-eyed on March 27, 2012, 02:59:37 PM
A preview without a prediction on the AFL website  :huh

Preview: Richmond v Carlton
By Paul Daffey and Jason Phelan
afl.com.au
Tue 27 Mar, 2012



WHERE AND WHEN: MCG, Thursday, March 29, 7.45pm
LAST TIME: Carlton 28.16 (184) d Richmond 12.9 (81), round 15, 2011, at MCG
TV AND RADIO: Click here for broadcast guide

This is a mouth-watering clash. Carlton is widely tipped to play off in the Grand Final and yet many pick it to lose its opening-round clash to the once hapless Tigers. The key is NAB Cup form. Richmond's scalps included Hawthorn and Geelong while Carlton lost all five games. It remains to be seen whether the Blues can overturn that form when the real stuff begins.

Richmond
1. Dustin Martin's performance in gaining 12 possessions in the first quarter of the Tigers' NAB Cup match against Geelong posed a juicy question. Could the Tigers' midfield actually mix it with the best midfields in the competition? Trent Cotchin and Nathan Foley were in fine form during the NAB Cup, while Brett Deledio kicked four goals in his return from a hamstring injury. Carlton's much-heralded midfield would seem to hold no terrors for the Tiger tyros.

2. Jack Riewoldt last year kicked six goals in a losing team in the opening-round match against Carlton. So what could he do against the Blues' depleted backline on Thursday night? Riewoldt started the pre-season late, having recovered from a series of operations after the 2011 season, but he was jumping out of his skin during the NAB Cup games, especially, it should be noted, when he was moved upfield against Fremantle. Lachie Henderson is likely to be his opponent. He would want to be completely on his game or he'll be munched.

3. Defenders Steven Morris and Brandon Ellis are likely to be Richmond's two AFL debutants, while Addam Maric will play his first game in the yellow and black after turning out for 21 games at Melbourne. Morris and Ellis are a study in contrasts regarding their kicking. Morris needs to add some shine while Ellis's kicking could barely be shinier. The 18-year-old was entrusted with kick-in duties during the NAB Cup. It'll be interesting to see whether he'll receive the same trust in a big match in front of 80,000 fans.

4. Richmond's kicking has long been considered deplorable, but the stats now say otherwise. While the Tigers were ranked 15th in kicking efficiency in 2010, they rose to become the 10th most efficient team by foot in 2011 and the fifth most efficient team last year. Carlton was ranked below Richmond last year. The Blues did, however, have the fewest clanger kicks in 2012 while Richmond was ranked second on that score. If the Tigers show more composure than the Blues with their kicking skills, they can win.

Carlton
1. How will the Blues' makeshift defence hold up? With Michael Jamison, Nick Duigan and Jeremy Laidler looking on from the stands, Brett Ratten has called on the likes of Paul Bower and Jordan Russell to step in and play a role.

2. Chris Judd and his blue-chip midfield corps will need to ease the pressure on the back six. The skipper had an interrupted pre-season thanks to pre-Christmas shoulder surgery and looked rusty when he did take the field. He'll need to be right back at his peak here.

3. Carlton has won its last seven matches against Richmond. The Blues can rightfully feel like they've had a mental edge over the Tigers over that period, but solid pre-season form and the recent signings of Damien Hardwick and Brett Deledio has them up and about at Punt Road.

4. Mitch Robinson will play his 50th AFL game. The combative midfielder quickly became a fan favourite with his hard-headed approach and he has plenty of skill to boot. He made great strides forward in the second half of last season and looms as a key figure in 2012.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/131531/default.aspx
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Owl on March 27, 2012, 06:02:50 PM
Well lets hope we just thrash the crap out of them, I don't want a close games so the maggots can come in and start applying their annual anti RFC bias.  I couldn't take it...
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: cub on March 28, 2012, 12:48:13 AM
A couple of decent practice matches and we're flavor of the month. (for whatever they have counted for in the past)
Nervous as hell and hope it once again doesn't all turn to poo in front of my eyes, tomorrow night can't come fast enough! Time for action boys  :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: gerkin greg on March 28, 2012, 10:08:52 AM
Nervous as hell and hope it once again doesn't all turn to poo in front of my eyes, tomorrow night can't come fast enough! Time for action boys  :gotigers

This. Got the day off tomorrow and it will be a hard effort not to hit the cans at breakfast to calm the nerves. I've had enough of losing to this mob, and you can stick the honourable loss up your ass too. I can't handle the smirks, it'll be shotgun and machete time. Time for a Tiger ambush of epic proportions and tear these poachers limb from limb.

Anyway, one thing that I did notice during the pre-season that I do think translates to the season proper was our fast or break even starts - something that needed to be rectified from last year that I think the boys have got sorted out. We jumped the Cats and Giants early and were never headed. eff I hope we bring that tomorrow.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: 1965 on March 28, 2012, 10:13:57 AM
Nervous as hell and hope it once again doesn't all turn to poo in front of my eyes, tomorrow night can't come fast enough! Time for action boys  :gotigers

This. Got the day off tomorrow and it will be a hard effort not to hit the cans at breakfast to calm the nerves. I've had enough of losing to this mob, and you can stick the honourable loss up your ass too. I can't handle the smirks, it'll be shotgun and machete time. Time for a Tiger ambush of epic proportions and tear these poachers limb from limb.

Anyway, one thing that I did notice during the pre-season that I do think translates to the season proper was our fast or break even starts - something that needed to be rectified from last year that I think the boys have got sorted out. We jumped the Cats and Giants early and were never headed. eff I hope we bring that tomorrow.

Curriculum day?

 :lol
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: gerkin greg on March 28, 2012, 10:18:39 AM
Sorry I'm not Jewish. Please don't even insinuate it. I find it quite offensive.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: 1965 on March 28, 2012, 10:25:00 AM
Sorry I'm not Jewish. Please don't even insinuate it. I find it quite offensive.

Not your best there Gerks.

  :sleep
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: JVT on March 28, 2012, 10:25:47 AM
Sorry I'm not Jewish. Please don't even insinuate it. I find it quite offensive.
Gerkins are not binded by race, they grow wherever they can  :rollin
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: gerkin greg on March 28, 2012, 10:38:52 AM
Sorry I'm not Jewish. Please don't even insinuate it. I find it quite offensive.

Not your best there Gerks.

  :sleep

Barry Humphries? Is that you?  :shh
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Loui Tufga on March 28, 2012, 10:40:52 AM
Sorry I'm not Jewish. Please don't even insinuate it. I find it quite offensive.
Gerkins are not binded by race, they grow wherever they can  :rollin

And the more poo you feed em the better :lol
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Ox on March 28, 2012, 10:44:26 AM
hahahahahaha
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Ox on March 28, 2012, 10:45:02 AM
otherwise known as the pickling process
Title: How can Carlton stop Jumpin' Jack? (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on March 28, 2012, 10:52:31 AM
Back to the topic ppl!


How can Carlton stop Jumpin' Jack?
Martin Blake
The Age
March 28, 2012


(http://images.theage.com.au/2012/03/27/3168366/art-353-svJACKSTATS-200x0.jpg)


A COUPLE of weeks ago, after Carlton completed an eyebrow-raising 0-5 sweep of the pre-season, coach Brett Ratten faced the media in a corner of the Blues' rooms at Princes Park.

Was he worried? ''That depends on your philosophy on life, if the glass is half-full, or half-empty,'' he said.

Ratten is a glass-half-full kind of coach, as it happens, and generally in the public arena he talks positively about his team. You will not often hear him talk about defensive systems or structures. From a distance, it appears that he focuses on what he can control, that being his own team and its method.

Which brings us to the Jack Riewoldt problem. Carlton's season-opening match against Richmond has become a hugely dangerous assignment for a team widely tipped as a top-four lock, and Riewoldt is a big part of that.

Carlton has a match-up problem with Riewoldt now that so many defenders - cross off Michael Jamison, Jeremy Laidler, Nick Duigan - are absent through injury. Watch a video of the same match-up a year ago and it becomes blatantly apparent.

Riewoldt kicked six that night, and from limited opportunities. In the third quarter, when the Tigers surged to the lead, he kicked three. His opponents were White, Laidler and Bret Thornton, although instructively, Carlton still won by 20 points on the back of midfield domination.

In the round 15 match, Lachie Henderson played on him and Riewoldt kicked four; Carlton smashed Richmond to take its streak of wins over the Tigers to seven, stretching over four years.

This time around, Jamison would have been the obvious opponent.

With him injured, it will have to be Henderson, an enigmatic player who has spent time at both ends of the ground, but made progress last season.

Carlton's problem is broader than Riewoldt because the Tigers can post plenty of marking targets in their front half. Just add Ty Vickery and Brad Miller and stir. But it is the mercurial Tasmanian who presents the biggest danger. He has played against Carlton seven times for seven defeats, and you fancy he's had about enough of that feeling.

How to solve it? Back your match-ups to start with. Let's say Henderson for Riewoldt, Paul Bower for Miller and Thornton for Vickery.

But most of all - and this is where the half-full glass comes in - Carlton will be intent on winning more than its share of midfield ball, pushing it forward and keeping it there. In a sense, the greatest form of defence is attack, especially when your midfield includes Messrs Judd, Murphy, Simpson, Gibbs, Robinson, Carrazzo to name but six.

Richmond has a talented, young midfield but the group has never stepped up and beaten Carlton's brilliant group in recent years. In round one last year, the Tigers were eclipsed by 18 in clearances and coach Damien Hardwick was moved to challenge his midfield group after the game.

Chris Judd and Marc Murphy were dynamic in both clashes last year, and Eddie Betts and Jeff Garlett kicked a lot of goals. Tiger favourites Brett Deledio, Dustin Martin and, to a lesser extent, Trent Cotchin, were subdued.

You could debate for hours who are the most important players in football - the midfielders or forwards (the defenders hardly ever get a mention).

In this case, Richmond has the forwards to exploit a weakened Carlton side. But only if the Tigers see enough ball.

''I think that's the case most weeks,'' Ratten said. ''The team that can win that battle, the forward-of-centre percentages, the yardages are so critical in the game. We hope Judd and co are getting their hands on the ball and sending it our way.''

If he was so inclined, Ratten might have laid awake every night this week worrying about Jumpin' Jack Riewoldt. But, as he says, it depends how you look at it.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/how-can-carlton-stop-jumpin-jack-20120327-1vwja.html#ixzz1qMeUEQg8
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: gerkin greg on March 28, 2012, 11:17:41 AM
otherwise known as the pickling process

some have been up there so long they've turned into cocktail onions
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Stripes on March 28, 2012, 12:51:29 PM
Rattan is right. The game will be won and lost in the center and for years now we have had our pants pulled down by their midfield brigade. More importantly though the difference has been our rucks. Their midfielders have been on the offense every stoppage and we have been just focused on trying to stop them. This sort of mindset and confidence discrepency can only finish in one possible result - a Blues win. Rattan wants to keep that dominance and mindset going. If we start to become more proactive in the middle and attacking, the wheel will turn.

Really the game comes down to Maric and Vickery for us  :pray
Title: Pay Blues respect: Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: one-eyed on March 28, 2012, 02:44:19 PM
Pay Blues respect: Hardwick
By Paul Daffey
Wed 28 Mar, 2012



RICHMOND coach Damien Hardwick says too much has been made of the injuries to Carlton's defenders and not enough attention has been paid to importance of the Blues midfield.

Michael Jamison, Nick Duigan and Jeremy Laidler will be missing from the Blues defence during Thursday night's season opener at the MCG, while forward Andrew Walker and Rob Warnock will also be unavailable through injury.

The key to the Blues is that gun midfielders such as Chris Judd, Marc Murphy, Bryce Gibbs and Kade Simpson will be playing, although Judd is expected to be underdone after a limited pre-season.

"A lot's been made of the Carlton injuries, but their midfield is the key," Hardwick said.

"We've lowered our colours to [their midfield] in the last couple of years and we're looking to reverse that tend.

"If we can get the ball inside 50, a strength of ours is our ability to score.

"We'll try and win the midfield battle and go from there."

The Tigers' midfield could not be more cherry ripe going into the round one clash. Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin, Nathan Foley and Daniel Jackson are at full fitness following impressive pre-seasons.

Brett Deledio missed a month with a hamstring injury but kicked four goals on his return against Greater Western Sydney last week.

Hardwick said the Tigers' were in the best shape they had been in for the opening round since he took over as Richmond coach before the 2010 season.

"Our pre-season's been very good, our talent has improved, so we go in confident," he said.

"We've played some good football.

"But Carlton on the other hand are formidable opposition. They're a top four or five side.

"Although their NAB Cup form says they haven't won a game, they've well and truly been in every game. So we're under no illusions about how good they can be."

Hardwick said there would be between two and four new faces in the Tigers' line-up. Defenders Steven Morris and Brandon Ellis and forward Addam Maric are expected to be in the squad when it's named this afternoon.

Morris and Ellis would want to be on their guards if they're to play as small defenders. Blues small forward Eddie Betts and Jeff Garlett are renowned for their ability to escape from their opponents' grasp.

"They're chaotic in that every player can bob up and kick goals," Hardwick said.

The Tigers coach said his coaches and players had paid no attention to the 103-point loss to Carlton in round 15 last year.

"It's long gone."

But he did admit that the Tigers might be more settled now that he and Brett Deledio had signed new contracts.

Hardwick's contract was extended by three years, taking him to the end of the 2014 season. Deledio announced on Monday that he had a new five-year contract.

When asked what the Tigers would take out of the much-hyped match against Carlton if they win, Hardwick said: "Confidence.

"It's a massive build-up to round one. But we just control what we can control."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/131633/default.aspx
Title: Punters jump on Richmond (SNF)
Post by: one-eyed on March 28, 2012, 02:58:59 PM
Markets courtesy of sportsbet.com.au
2012 AFL Round 1
Prices in brackets from Tuesday 27 March

$1.55 Carlton (out from $1.50)
$2.55 Richmond (in from $2.60)

Full article at: http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2012/03/28/punters-jump-on-richmond/
 
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: one-eyed on March 28, 2012, 03:02:19 PM
Sportal's preview is tipping Carlton by 8 pts...


WE THINK:
If ever Richmond had a chance to turn the tables on their old foes Carlton, this would be it. The Blues have owned the Tigers in recent years, winning their past seven encounters by an average of 57 points - including four of the five now traditional Round 1 matches. But the out-of-form Carlton, who failed to win any of their five pre-season matches, will be up against it to repeat the dose on Thursday night with five key players missing due to injury. Conversely, Richmond are up and running and on the back of an encouraging NAB Cup, which saw them beat the likes of Hawthorn and Geelong, will be champing at the bit to have a crack at Carlton. The Blues appear to be ripe for the picking but they still have their full complement of top-line midfielders and if they win the crucial battle in the middle of the ground, they'll start the season off on the right note
Carlton by 8 points.

Full preview here: http://www.sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/preview-richmond-v-carlton-168599
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Stripes on March 28, 2012, 03:18:35 PM
The media is making far too much of Carltons outs. I would be much more confident if 3 of their best midfielders were injuried rather than their backline.  :o
Title: Re: Pay Blues respect: Hardwick (afl site)
Post by: Smokey on March 28, 2012, 04:27:44 PM

The Tigers' midfield could not be more cherry ripe going into the round one clash.

A cringe-worthy comment if ever I read one!   :help
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on March 28, 2012, 04:33:48 PM
The media is making far too much of Carltons outs. I would be much more confident if 3 of their best midfielders were injuried rather than their backline.  :o

The media are trying to make Richmond something we aint which will make for a great lynching on fri morning
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: tiga on March 28, 2012, 05:01:12 PM
I'm worried about the nuffers like Armfield, Betts & Co who always seem to lift against us.  :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on March 28, 2012, 05:05:44 PM
Sorry guys, but after all this over hype and tiger campaign in the HUN for the last few weeks...
The Blues are exactly where they want to be, which is lying low and they will burst out of the gates..

Im tipping the blues by 3 goals
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: smasha on March 28, 2012, 05:46:07 PM
Well lets hope we just thrash the crap out of them, I don't want a close games so the maggots can come in and start applying their annual anti RFC bias.  I couldn't take it...

If it's close,the umps will find some 50/50 to pay Carlton.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on March 28, 2012, 05:58:37 PM
Well lets hope we just thrash the crap out of them, I don't want a close games so the maggots can come in and start applying their annual anti RFC bias.  I couldn't take it...

If it's close,the umps will find some 50/50 to pay Carlton.

I'm sure Giesch will be in their earpiece... ::)
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: TigerTimeII on March 28, 2012, 06:09:56 PM
BETTS is the one we have to contain..... he is the one who always slaughters us and lifts the blues... lets hit him harm early and make him second guess every time he is near the ball...
lets smash these mofos
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 28, 2012, 08:40:24 PM
It will go down to the midfield however I also think that Carlton is underdone and if the pace is frenetic I feel our fitness is superior to theirs at this stage of the year we may overrun them.
Much like the 2008 Round 1 match where we won by 5 goals in a canter. :thumbsup

This leaves no room for conspiracy theories with umps and Giesche and soft frees.
If we play smart the contest may be over at three quarter time. :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Judge Roughneck on March 28, 2012, 09:26:00 PM
BETTS is the one we have to contain..... he is the one who always slaughters us and lifts the blues... lets hit him harm early and make him second guess every time he is near the ball...
lets smash these mofos

Morris will take him i think. If not the sub. 
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Francois Jackson on March 28, 2012, 11:12:24 PM
Hey does anyone have any experience streaming games live on the net.

I'm over in Mexico and was wondering if anyone had watched it live through AFL website or any others before
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: one-eyed on March 29, 2012, 05:04:00 AM
Hey does anyone have any experience streaming games live on the net.

I'm over in Mexico and was wondering if anyone had watched it live through AFL website or any others before
Not sure about live streams but isn't the AFL site putting up whole replays 12 hours after the game?
Title: Carlton centres on first blood against Richmond (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on March 29, 2012, 05:05:57 AM
Carlton centres on first blood against Richmond

    Eliza Sewell
    From: Herald Sun
    March 28, 2012 11:00PM


CARLTON'S Andrew Carrazzo says the Blues are determined to pin down a Richmond midfield he thinks can help propel the Tigers into the finals.

The Blues are embracing the hype around tonight's match, which Carrazzo said would be won and lost in the midfield.

"Obviously that's Richmond's strength and it's our strength as well, so it will probably determine the result and if we're going to have a good night we're going to have to take it right up to their midfield," he said.

"It's the strength of their team, you could string off five or six guys that are really quality midfielders and even guys that are pushing into that elite bracket."

Carlton has won its past seven matches against Richmond, but Carrazzo said it was only a "small positive".
"They're a different team now," he said.

"They've improved, they're showing that they've got the talent and the team play to play finals."

The Blues failed to win a pre-season match, but Carrazzo said it meant little.

"I've played here in two pre-season premierships and then we've won the wooden spoon in both years, so you can draw from pre-season form what you like," he said.

Marc Murphy didn't participate in the main training session yesterday as part of his usual pre-match routine.

"Murph's done that the last two years, he just doesn't train the day before the game," Carrazzo said.

"Murph is fine and fighting fit."

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-centres-on-first-blood-against-richmond/story-e6frepf6-1226312396325
Title: We'll turn it on against Tigers, says Chris Judd (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on March 29, 2012, 05:07:24 AM
We'll turn it on against Tigers, says Carlton captain Chris Judd

    Mark Robinson
    From: Herald Sun
    March 29, 2012


SKIPPER Chris Judd is confident the Blues will stuff the switch tonight against Richmond at the MCG.

The Blues lost all five pre-season matches, and have crucial players missing through injury, but Judd said their entire planning was focused on the Tigers.

"That's been our focus from the start, to get the right amount of game time into each other, so they're ready to go Round 1," Judd said.

"Most people are pretty confident we're a good team that's doing the right thing ... and we get to prove that (tonight)."

The best pictures from Carlton training

Admitting excitement before his 11th season, and fifth season at Carlton, the 28-year-old was confident he was at the top of his game, and tonight's game would be furious in front of a projected crowd of 80,000 at the MCG.

"Internally, the game's worth four points, externally it's probably worth 12," Judd said. "They will be focused on the win, and so will we."

Tonight the Blues will be without defenders Michael Jamison, Nick Duigan, ruckman Rob Warnock and forward Andrew Walker.

Judd said the injuries and expectation on a team that last year won its first final in 10 years were not a concern.

"If you want to be a good club it's one of the many challenges you have to deal with, and we see it as a real positive that people expect something from us because we expect something positive from each other," Judd said.

"Talent, hard work and time is what you need to be successful, and we've got a talented list, we've been working hard on a good program for a few years now, and we're starting to get to the point where the players have played together for a decent amount of time."

Judd acknowledged his below-par games at the end of last year, and worked on his "running patterns" with assistant coach Mark Riley.

"I became an easy player to play on, my running patterns weren't where they should've been and my general intensity. I just think it came down to workrate," he said.

"I'm very confident I can contribute to the team and that's all I need to worry about."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-news/well-turn-it-on-against-tigers-says-carlton-captain-chris-judd/story-e6frf9jf-1226312910639
Title: Roar Preview: Round 1 (RFC)
Post by: one-eyed on March 29, 2012, 02:39:07 PM
Richo and assistant coach Ross Smith preview the Carlton game tonight

http://bigpondvideo.com/RichmondTV/434474/Roar%20Preview:%20Round%201/
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: mightytiges on March 29, 2012, 05:07:02 PM
I'm heading off to the 'G now. Let's hope the boys come out switched on and focussed on getting the job done over 4 quarters. Thrive on the big occassion rather than freezing. We have a good enough side to win tonight if the boys deliver. Bring it on!  :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: wayne on March 29, 2012, 08:52:35 PM
EFFIN' FUMBLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :banghead :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: mat073 on March 29, 2012, 08:56:56 PM
Deep deep trouble at half time
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Go Richo 12 on March 29, 2012, 08:58:24 PM
I not sure i can put up with another season of this crap!
Unfortunately it's the same old stuff, lets announce a raft of extended contracts, talk about how where we're headed in the right direction and then choke on the big stage!
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Loui Tufga on March 29, 2012, 09:01:02 PM
First half was very poor! No pressure, fumbling and mist shots at goal is really hurting us. Both Martin and Lids need to lift big time! There defensive pressure is poor at best.

A hell of allot will Ned to change in the next half if we're going to win this!
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: 10 FLAGS on March 29, 2012, 09:02:58 PM
First half was very poor! No pressure, fumbling and mist shots at goal is really hurting us. Both Martin and Lids need to lift big time! There defensive pressure is poor at best.

A hell of allot will Ned to change in the next half if we're going to win this!

I just had that bad feeling when Miller missed that early shot in the match. Ive seen it too many times. We had early chances and didnt take them. Now we're chasing our tails.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Loui Tufga on March 29, 2012, 09:06:20 PM
Same here! Just can't believe the lack of pressure! Why play a zone if your not milling to run and chase? Letting them just chip around it is very poor footy!!
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on March 29, 2012, 09:09:30 PM
Players not working hard enough IMO.  They look slow, tired and worse of all scared. Besides Cotchin and Martin late in the second there's no run noone creating anything. Our kick ins are dreadful too too slow getting it out from a point. About 5 or six times players trying to run with the footy but they forgot one thing... The footy. No one clean with hands or foot beside Cotchin. Jack is playing a very lazy game not leading at all. On one occassion he had a completly open forward line & instead of working hard and leading to space he waited behind his man & lost.

This is a very very very disappointing display at the minute as we sit here at half time pondering how bad it's gonna get.

This is really the only game that matters to me this year. Beating Carlscum is everything because I hate them. But the reality is we have a long way to go.
I hope they can turn it around.
 :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: wayne on March 29, 2012, 09:11:10 PM
We might have a promising midfield, but until we can get quality clearances and not bomb the ball 20m forward and 50m high, we're not going to beat these top sides.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: tony_montana on March 29, 2012, 09:17:42 PM
They spread a lot better, could have axed us by halftime with their overlap.

We can't win a clearance, every time the ball is in dispute they whisk it away. And they kick the first 2 of the 3rd game over
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Francois Jackson on March 29, 2012, 09:27:10 PM


Once again the likes of Edwards and Jackson make us look pathetic

Training the house down. Hahahahahaha
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: wayne on March 29, 2012, 09:45:39 PM
Back in it, lucky they've kicked poorly.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: tony_montana on March 29, 2012, 09:48:22 PM
Morris changed the momentum that quarter with some big efforts. Felt we started to run harder that quarter, reckon of we snag the first one and get a run on we can do it. Still need to win more when the ball hits the deck
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: 10 FLAGS on March 29, 2012, 10:11:35 PM
Have to say being 26 down at the 20 minute mark of the last is very disappointing. Carlton a much more professional unit than us. We are long long way behind them in real terms. Copping these goals just shows where we are at. You cant teach Pride.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: mat073 on March 29, 2012, 10:13:30 PM
looks like you can just "stuff the switch" after all.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: 10 FLAGS on March 29, 2012, 10:21:41 PM
Flogged by the Carlton twos. You cant teach things like PRIDE, HONOR, COMMITMENT! We have a long long way to go! A season wasted right here tonight IMHO.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: wayne on March 29, 2012, 10:22:21 PM
First sign of improvement i'd like to see is not the ability to shut down the Judds, Murphys, Gibbs', it's the ability to shut down 2nd tier spuds like Carrazzo, Robinson and Simpson.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: mat073 on March 29, 2012, 10:31:12 PM
Well we have been put in our place (again)
Another rd 1 reality check.
Typical Richmond...no poise under pressure.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on March 29, 2012, 10:34:22 PM
Oh well here we are...
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: The Big Richo on March 29, 2012, 10:35:35 PM
Riewoldt's body language was a disgrace tonight.

So is his haircut.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Ruanaidh on March 29, 2012, 10:35:39 PM
Playing Tuck and Jackson in the starting 21 was always going to backfire. :banghead Conca will never be a 'sub' again. BTW why wouldn't Matt White be played on Yarran tonight considering the job he did on him last year?
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: wayne on March 29, 2012, 10:36:25 PM
The most disappointing thing for mine was that there was none of the pressure that I saw in the first half against Freo and the entire Geelong game in the NAB cup. It was same old, same old.

Not many hit ups, everyone just seems to bomb the ball down the line. Most kicks into the forward 50 were bombed from the centre square and getting whisked out at about 40 metres out, there weren't many long kicks deep into the 50 to put pressure on their undermanned defence.

Vickery or Post was worst on ground for me. I didn't even see Vickery in the last quarter, he kept getting spoiled by small defender Laidler and after he dropped the sitter in the 3rd, he disappeared.

It's not going to get any easier next week  :help
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: tiger101 on March 29, 2012, 10:36:34 PM
Well that sucked but Im going to honest I under estimated Carlton. They don't look like a premiership side but they are better than us still. Vickery couldn't buy a mark it seemed kept slipping backwards and letting it go through his hands.
Our defenders really need to step up another level from tonights game if we won't to play finals.

On a positive our tackling looking alot better than last years all over the ground.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Ruanaidh on March 29, 2012, 10:37:01 PM
Riewoldt's body language was a disgrace tonight.

So is his haircut.
Hear...bloody hear!
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: wayne on March 29, 2012, 10:39:01 PM
Playing Tuck and Jackson in the starting 21 was always going to backfire. :banghead Conca will never be a 'sub' again. BTW why wouldn't Matt White be played on Yarran tonight considering the job he did on him last year?

Yarrans and Whites graphs are going in opposite directions. White is limited, Yarran would have taken him apart.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on March 29, 2012, 10:42:24 PM
Gary March "no excuses" what is your excuse?
I like Dimma but why give him a contract extenion bEFORE the season?
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: dwaino on March 29, 2012, 10:46:54 PM
Agree with the negatives everyone has written. How long will the Darrou or Wright project take? Our back talls get monstered by average forwards. Need a goliath down there for Rance and Grimes to take the second and third talls. Post is crap.


But I saw signs of improvement. We started well and clearances were solid right through. Big Maric was a welcome addition, shame he didn't get that goal in the third. Judd was reasonably quiet for three quarters so I assume the tag worked. But Cotchin was quiet after the first. Did they switch the tag from Dusty to Chimp? Dusty certainly shone. Glad to see Foley is going to be up there with Cotch and Dusty.

Haven't read back through for comments on Morris yet, but I'm in love. So many times sitting at the ground watching him I saw him chase hard, smother and punch like mad and laid some brilliant tackles and stopped some certain goals. His reading of the play was more than passable but sometimes let his man get a little too much space and couldn't always close the gap. IMO he performed exactly what he was recruited for.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: tony_montana on March 29, 2012, 10:47:51 PM
We got lazy tonight, we didn't stretch them at all with our fwd setup, we just bombed it long expecting to monster an undermanned Carlton defence, instead we made it easy for them. Dissapiinted in miller he's meant to be the hit up fwd he hardly did that. Jack didn't work hard enough either. Suck and tired of seeing duds like armfield have an 'arrival' game against us, broke the lines better than anyone on the ground.

Not slash your wrists dissapointment, but a big reality check. This caper is hard you need to earn it, it doesn't just fall into place nice easy

stuff!!
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Lozza on March 29, 2012, 10:49:56 PM
Being smashed in contested marks means unless you can retain possession which we couldn't then its pretty much game over. We are just not strong in a pack marking situation. Vickery desperately needs to find some form, his efforts above his head are woeful at the present, even during the pre season he was very poor, a stark contrast to last year, seems to be totally lacking in confidence.

Our defence (and i use the term loosely) is our Achilles heel which i know is stating the bleeding obvious but it will be for at least this season until we recruit specialist defenders with both strength and height. All opponents expose this and play tall timber in the forward line where we are pretty much helpless to counter. At the moment all we can offer in height is Post who is quite simply a stop gap measure and is miles away from being a decent defender. Cloke should kick 10 goals against us next week (subject to his kicking), not sure who is going to be able to contest with him for four quarters.

Again as with every other season opener the hype of a big game has fatigued the players before they start. Once fatigued then the greatest game plan in the world wont win you a game if you are simply too tired to execute. Have we improved from last year, on tonight's effort alone you would have to say no, we got closer to the scum last season. Is there room for improvement, i think there is quite a bit but its going to be more a confidence thing given we could be 0-5 before we know whats happened.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: tony_montana on March 29, 2012, 10:52:11 PM
Playing Tuck and Jackson in the starting 21 was always going to backfire. :banghead Conca will never be a 'sub' again. BTW why wouldn't Matt White be played on Yarran tonight considering the job he did on him last year?

Yarrans and Whites graphs are going in opposite directions. White is limited, Yarran would have taken him apart.

No doubt, but you need to shut yarran down, was worth bringing him in for it especially with king out. Nahas and maric aren't as intense defensively
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WA Tiger on March 29, 2012, 10:56:43 PM
Geezus... And you all thought I would over react :whistle
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: dwaino on March 29, 2012, 10:57:47 PM
Geezus... And you all thought I would over react :whistle
. C'mon, my post was sensible!!  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on March 29, 2012, 11:06:48 PM
Our defence is 2 years away so we are atleast 2 years away from playing finals.
Post is a Post. He really has no idea what hes doing.
Jack played lazy footy tonight. He could learn something from Thornton tonight. If you are willing to work hard & present hard then the ball will come. Our forward structure was non productive because noone was willing to present. It takes a leader to lead the way. To me it looked like he was too concerned to be a hero than work his ass off for the team & lead the way. Too little too late in the last when it's all over. Not good enough. Miller is a fill in player let's hope griffiths can take his place soon.

Lids was probably counting his money. If you want to play finals then as a leader he & Newman have to lead by example. Be clean, composed, self assured and a guiding light to the lesser likes. Bring the others into the game by showing leadership & example.

I came tonight expecting to lose but Im still bitterly disappointed because I want to see skill and poise and belief and all those things were non existant.

I HATE CARLSCUM. I Cant wait tlll we beat them. 

Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on March 29, 2012, 11:12:15 PM
Geezus... And you all thought I would over react :whistle
. C'mon, my post was sensible!!  ;D

Mate, it was pretty dissapointing
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: yellowandback on March 29, 2012, 11:22:35 PM
Wow.....just wow.

Early thoughts are that we have a capability issue.
To play Tuck, Jackson and Grigg in the one side is just not seeing the forest for the trees.

Hardwick too close to it, that is not a good sign.

To be fair, who comes in?

A bad but not totally unexpected result. Hun should lap this up in the morning, as will Gerald and Roosy.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: hyperlite on March 29, 2012, 11:30:21 PM
i think some of us - mostly the media - underestimated carlton. They played some high quality football when ours was at our worst and that was the difference. I thought our forward line was probably the most disappointing thing. Jack was waiting for the ball to pop over the back instead of leading, and vickery was a bit lacklustre at times. Miller was also a bit sloppy, missing marks and tackles.

The backline missed a cool head like batchelor i thought. But i suppose even newman looked a bit startled at times so maybe it was just the tempo of the game. Morris 1%ers was a positive. That smother in the 3rd quarter was solid. Still thought he left too much space on his opponent at times tho. Ellis played ok for his first game. Is a neat kick and with time will be a very important cog in the team.

Carltons 2nd/3rd tier players like curnow armfield and thornton looked good which was the most frustrating part. Seems that Carlton always find a way against us when it matters most. Yarrans goal in the last was freakish. Game killer.

Going to be a tough 5 rounds. Will be interesting to see what hardwick has to say in his press conf.

Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: dwaino on March 29, 2012, 11:30:53 PM
Geezus... And you all thought I would over react :whistle
. C'mon, my post was sensible!!  ;D

Mate, it was pretty dissapointing

We lost the second quarter and got blown out midway into the 4th. Still a few things to take away.

My old man is a QAFL level coach (nothing to gloat about but still insightful) and he's constantly picking. Anyone at the game notice the kick ins? I was front of third tier Ponsford and got a good view of structures. We had NO kick in plan. Zip. Newy held the ball up and there was no movement. Players were flat footed and Carlton held the gaps and their talls sheltered the press. Our kick ins turned into junior style of kicking to any free man you can find, or bomb long. Every team is employing a press. We need a get out tactic. Also, we never employed a press. We flooded and left open centre squares. Another I picked up was when Carlton were switching, our boys were running hard to cover their men and the new holes. But if you watched the linker, every time he would look down the guts to see if we had a free man due to one of our blokes straggling or losing their man due GI hurriedly getting numbers in front. They hurt us every time with this.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on March 29, 2012, 11:43:45 PM
Oh well here we are...

That familiar feeling.....

Our defence leaked like a siv on the rebound. Nahas and edwards did virtually nothing. Vickery had a stinker and Jackson still can't kick.

Need four quarters of football from guys like Deledio and Martin if we are going to beat the better sides.

And why did we alway go forward around the boundary line?

On the upside Morris had a real crack as did Cotch and Foley.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: tony_montana on March 29, 2012, 11:48:16 PM
Geezus... And you all thought I would over react :whistle
. C'mon, my post was sensible!!  ;D

Mate, it was pretty dissapointing

We lost the second quarter and got blown out midway into the 4th. Still a few things to take away.

My old man is a QAFL level coach (nothing to gloat about but still insightful) and he's constantly picking. Anyone at the game notice the kick ins? I was front of third tier Ponsford and got a good view of structures. We had NO kick in plan. Zip. Newy held the ball up and there was no movement. Players were flat footed and Carlton held the gaps and their talls sheltered the press. Our kick ins turned into junior style of kicking to any free man you can find, or bomb long. Every team is employing a press. We need a get out tactic. Also, we never employed a press. We flooded and left open centre squares. Another I picked up was when Carlton were switching, our boys were running hard to cover their men and the new holes. But if you watched the linker, every time he would look down the guts to see if we had a free man due to one of our blokes straggling or losing their man due GI hurriedly getting numbers in front. They hurt us every time with this.

Great post dwaino, I was right where you were in th ponsford and could see the way they murdered us on the spread all night. I think we were naive, a little lazy and typically just expected that it would happen, tonight - was a rude awakening. I'm not writing us off yet, we're better than that even by our standards  :lol.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Tigeritis™©® on March 29, 2012, 11:52:02 PM
Geezus... And you all thought I would over react :whistle
. C'mon, my post was sensible!!  ;D

Mate, it was pretty dissapointing

We lost the second quarter and got blown out midway into the 4th. Still a few things to take away.

My old man is a QAFL level coach (nothing to gloat about but still insightful) and he's constantly picking. Anyone at the game notice the kick ins? I was front of third tier Ponsford and got a good view of structures. We had NO kick in plan. Zip. Newy held the ball up and there was no movement. Players were flat footed and Carlton held the gaps and their talls sheltered the press. Our kick ins turned into junior style of kicking to any free man you can find, or bomb long. Every team is employing a press. We need a get out tactic. Also, we never employed a press. We flooded and left open centre squares. Another I picked up was when Carlton were switching, our boys were running hard to cover their men and the new holes. But if you watched the linker, every time he would look down the guts to see if we had a free man due to one of our blokes straggling or losing their man due GI hurriedly getting numbers in front. They hurt us every time with this.
yes. I noticed the kick ins & mentioned it at half time. It was excruciating to watch. The blues just hurried the ball out except in the third but all night we took ages & ages to get the ball out from a point. But all night they guys were flat footed.
The forwards weren't presenting. When a player wanted to switch there was hardly anyone running to space. That's why Im upset with our leaders tonight. And i'm not including the young guys because if you've been at Richmond for a while and you so desperately want to play finals you show everyone how desperate you are. That takes hard work and our leaders didn't work hard tonight.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hard Roar Tiger on March 29, 2012, 11:55:56 PM
 I see a general lack of competence everywhere
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Jackstar is back again on March 29, 2012, 11:58:23 PM
Gary March "no excuses" what is your excuse?
I like Dimma but why give him a contract extenion bEFORE the season?

EXTREMELY poorly coached.
*The kick ins were a disgrace.
*Listened to Mick Malthouse on 3AW at the game, and her couldnt believe why J.Post stood behind his man ALL night, I couldnt beleive it either
*Jack Riewoldt has to play in front. He should have a look at the way Cotchin played when he went forward.
*Carlton switch of play in D50 was so predictable it wasnt funny.
And we haven given Hardwick an extension, this will come back to bite once again :banghead
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on March 30, 2012, 12:00:45 AM
Considering the rest of the draw is fairly even this rd, ill guess well end up 17th by %
I did tip carlton but just disspointed in the way in which we played/ or lack of
Thereno point in bagging out our players, that will count for nothing.
Sitting on level 1 I cant see the strucures as well as those sitting higher, but it was evident they were slower, fumbly, nervous and failed to provide options or when it counted sollutions.

I think any winning team can afford to have 2-3 players with average/off games.
Tonight we just had half a dozen plus,  and were outclassed.

In hindsight, what changes would you make to our starting lineup?? What should we have done differently?
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on March 30, 2012, 12:12:17 AM
Did I mention Jackson can't kick?
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: dwaino on March 30, 2012, 12:13:55 AM
Geezus... And you all thought I would over react :whistle
. C'mon, my post was sensible!!  ;D

Mate, it was pretty dissapointing

We lost the second quarter and got blown out midway into the 4th. Still a few things to take away.

My old man is a QAFL level coach (nothing to gloat about but still insightful) and he's constantly picking. Anyone at the game notice the kick ins? I was front of third tier Ponsford and got a good view of structures. We had NO kick in plan. Zip. Newy held the ball up and there was no movement. Players were flat footed and Carlton held the gaps and their talls sheltered the press. Our kick ins turned into junior style of kicking to any free man you can find, or bomb long. Every team is employing a press. We need a get out tactic. Also, we never employed a press. We flooded and left open centre squares. Another I picked up was when Carlton were switching, our boys were running hard to cover their men and the new holes. But if you watched the linker, every time he would look down the guts to see if we had a free man due to one of our blokes straggling or losing their man due GI hurriedly getting numbers in front. They hurt us every time with this.

Great post dwaino, I was right where you were in th ponsford and could see the way they murdered us on the spread all night. I think we were naive, a little lazy and typically just expected that it would happen, tonight - was a rude awakening. I'm not writing us off yet, we're better than that even by our standards  :lol.

Where abouts exactly were you, tones? Small world if we were on top of each other lol. I was on the front railing immediately in front of where the booze was sold, in front of escalators. I was pretty vocal and often yelled "slimy green maggot!" if you heard that and saw it coming from a tattood bloke in a media polo sitting with a couple old fellas/ferals (dad and uncle)... That was me ;D
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Ox on March 30, 2012, 12:19:40 AM
Malthouse>Hardwick
Post<A Post
Richmond = Trainwreck
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: georgies31 on March 30, 2012, 12:30:59 AM
Must say very dissapointed with that effort tigers.Th things that concerned me is that we lacked basic skills and basic footy smarts.Sloopy handballs,to slow to move the footy,dropping easy marks,stupid kick inns and our defenders didnt play smart footy at all.We were also to predictable.Some of our guys need to put more effort in.Kick inns were laughable at times by Newman and the rest no system or structure at all.I dont think Dimma and his assistants had a good day out.Jack has to be isolated one on one in the square that's were he does his damage.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Ox on March 30, 2012, 12:32:46 AM
Deledio man-Whats this guys vibe?

Some days he does poo
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Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: TigerTimeII on March 30, 2012, 12:32:57 AM
Blah blah blah
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: georgies31 on March 30, 2012, 12:41:26 AM
This game proved how far we are still from the pack and playing finals.Massive reality check for us backline needs alot of work.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 30, 2012, 12:52:08 AM
Yep it hurts I'm frustrated.

This is the the glaring issue

Garlett Betts Yarran Robinson Lucas Hampson Henderson Scotland Armfield

all lower tier players and not elite by any standards but they have impact and their contributions count .

Grigg Edwards Miller Tuck Jackson Nahas Vickery

Look at their impact and contributions from our perspective.

Until we develop or our lower tier rise and make proactive inputs and contributions no fumbles and clangers and poor decisions then we will at best be a 6-10 side that will wallow in mid table mediocrity. No amount of first rounders will save us if we don't get a competitive second tier that impacts.

No point doing that against Freo or Sydney at the G b/c they struggle here need to do it against the filth, scums, Hawks, Cats.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: rogerd3 on March 30, 2012, 12:57:45 AM
nervous nellies are jumping up and down.

love it. you guys make me laugh, actually roar with laughter :lol
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: TigerLand on March 30, 2012, 01:00:15 AM
Don't think it was all doom and gloom. Many of our better players had a poor game. If Dusty kicked that goal we were 1 point behind at the 10 min mark.

Lids was quiet, Dusty was quiet, Vickey was no where, Newman hardly got a touch, Riewoldt was beaten. Other than Cotchin our A Graders were wel below par.
As always our bottom dozen are not AFL standard and were over awed, again. (Jackson, Post, Edwards, new comers Ellis and Morris were OK but over awed).

So to think we could have been in within a point in the last qtr is staggering.

Nothing has changed for me, finishing 7th or 8th is still 50-50, if we don't cop injuries and have some luck its possible, with some bad luck and injuries we could finish bottom 6. Still a long way away, just wish our President would shut up and stop pumping us up. Still don't have a B Grade or above KP backman. Grimes is our best backman and hes' played 10 games.

If I could have 1 wish, 1 wish in this world it would involve Daniel Jackson never playing a game of football again. As an opposition, you're happy when he has the ball in his hands. We will never play finals with Jackson in our best 22. Never.

Shame we don't have a easy game next week, would be good to get some momentum started with an easy win over an ordinary Brisbane or Port. Think next week will be same result as will Round 3. Our season will start in Round 4.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Willy on March 30, 2012, 01:12:00 AM
Im disapointed but at the end of the day Carlton are top four hopefuls, we are top 8 hopefuls... We  simply do not have their class yet.

Our season is not over.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: kingkingston on March 30, 2012, 01:13:39 AM
As an avid Carlton supporter "don't kill me" i like the Tigers, they are one of my favourite "other" teams.

I just thought our experienced players were the difference in the end and we got a pretty even effort from everyone in our team.

Richmond showed some good signs i thought, the midfield got clearances but i thought the tigers bombed the ball too much on top of Riewoldt and Vickery and really didn't give them a real good chance at taking the mark.

Also i think the Tigers need another real fast small forward to help Nahas out, i know you have Jake King but just think you guys need a zippy small forward, do you have one in the reserves that could come in ?
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 30, 2012, 01:16:05 AM
Our season starts round 4 against Geelong Pope? :help

It started tonight with Edwards and Jako playing an all too familiar and disappointing role.

Realistically if we can't beat the Pies I'm hoping the Dees are focusing on the Jim Stynes game in Round 4 and they can be physically building to that and off the boil against us. This could be our saving grace in the next fortnight.



Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Francois Jackson on March 30, 2012, 01:38:28 AM
What makes me laugh is the blokes who pre season boasted of players like Edwards and Jackson tearing the house down and yet again they lead our insipid side once again.

We were virtually owned and  if it weren't for Cotch and Foley it would've been 100 pts.

Jack played for himself tonight

There is no excuse to lose by that margin. None!!  Every year we seem to find new ways to keep our % below 80. We are a joke and come rd 5 our % will be 70 and season on par like all the others we have to come know

Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: TigerLand on March 30, 2012, 01:45:07 AM
Our season starts round 4 against Geelong Pope? :help

It started tonight with Edwards and Jako playing an all too familiar and disappointing role.

Realistically if we can't beat the Pies I'm hoping the Dees are focusing on the Jim Stynes game in Round 4 and they can be physically building to that and off the boil against us. This could be our saving grace in the next fortnight.

I'm lazy and havent checked the fixture

Don't we have

Coll
Geel
WCE (at Telstra Dome)

? Starts against West Coast in Vic?
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: TigerLand on March 30, 2012, 01:46:34 AM
What makes me laugh is the blokes who pre season boasted of players like Edwards and Jackson tearing the house down and yet again they lead our insipid side once again.

We were virtually owned and  if it weren't for Cotch and Foley it would've been 100 pts.

Jack played for himself tonight

There is no excuse to lose by that margin. None!!  Every year we seem to find new ways to keep our % below 80. We are a joke and come rd 5 our % will be 70 and season on par like all the others we have to come know

We'll never be successful with Edwards and Jackson on our list. Can't play. Move on.

Can find players like them easily for nothing in state leagues. Easily.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: TigerLand on March 30, 2012, 01:48:03 AM
Sorry I've somehow ommitted the Dees game.

Its not that bad a fixture then. Good measuring stick versing Dees Round 3. Would think being 2-3 after 5 rounds would be a good result.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Francois Jackson on March 30, 2012, 01:49:32 AM
I'm sick to death of this teachers pet rubbish

If Dimma wants to play Favourites with these 2 then he should prepare for a very unsuccessful coaching career

They can't play not today not last year not ever


Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: TigerLand on March 30, 2012, 01:54:23 AM
I'm sick to death of this teachers pet rubbish

If Dimma wants to play Favourites with these 2 then he should prepare for a very unsuccessful coaching career

They can't play not today not last year not ever

The only excuse is that unfortunately we probably don't have anyone that comes in that makes us better. So when trying to win a game you pick your best 22. Jackson and Edwards would be somewhere between 18-22.

I don't see Connors or say a young Helbig doing much better. The worst decision the club made was to resign Jackson last year. Horrible.

Look forward to the day our list is too good for Jackson or Edwards to get a game, its sad its taken so long. Probably a yard stick showing how bad we once were.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: one-eyed on March 30, 2012, 04:46:04 AM
Pics from last night's game...

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Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: mightytiges on March 30, 2012, 06:29:50 AM
As an avid Carlton supporter "don't kill me" i like the Tigers, they are one of my favourite "other" teams.

I just thought our experienced players were the difference in the end and we got a pretty even effort from everyone in our team.

Richmond showed some good signs i thought, the midfield got clearances but i thought the tigers bombed the ball too much on top of Riewoldt and Vickery and really didn't give them a real good chance at taking the mark.

Also i think the Tigers need another real fast small forward to help Nahas out, i know you have Jake King but just think you guys need a zippy small forward, do you have one in the reserves that could come in ?
Addam Maric was brought over from Melbourne to be another small forward. There's really no one else after him, Nahas and King. At least not of the talent/class of a Garlett or Yarran. As happened at Hawthorn with them adding Rioli as the final piece of their premiership puzzle, that sort of player is still on our 'yet to do' list.

I agree with you about us lazily bombing the ball forward. Up and under kicks are easy to defend against. It was just systematic of our structures and systems just going to the wayside once Carlton put us under pressure. Too many of the usual suspects went to water. That second quarter from a Richmond perspective was diabolical. We were soft and lazy with our mids and forwards expecting the ball to come to then which meant our defenders often looked up and saw flat-footed teammates not presenting. There was one play where in the space of 30 secs two of our defenders each gained possession in and back 50 and looked towards the Southern stand wing for a lead and all our mids were still plodding away on the other side of the ground. Not one Tiger midfielder shifted across to the Southern stand wing whereas Carlton had about 4 players disciplinary set up in their zone.

Our defensive structures broke down far too often. Not just in our backline where Ratten worked out by the 2nd qtr that the Blues could exploit us by going through Post's direct opponent (another piece of puzzle missing is a big key defender). Long Carlton balls out of their defensive 50 were allowed to get over the back which gave Carlton an open forward and easy goals. I think on the radio they said Richmond's talls dropped 17 marks alone. Carlton are a good side as is without handing them charity. If I was Dimma I would've done my block in at half-time. It was as if all the preseason set-ups were thrown out of the window once the pressure of a real season went up. Some might blame have a soft lead into round 1 with GWS but we just had too many passengers who wanted it easy. Footy is a pretty simple game deep down. If you're not first to the ball and hard at it you don't win the footy.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 30, 2012, 07:04:28 AM
Didn't going in thinking we'd was hoping we would

I've always believed that when the real stuff starts pre-season form is just that "pre-season form" and it means nothing.

Biggest disappointment is 7 goals to 1 in the last 15-20 minutes = totally unacceptable but at the same time sadly not surprising. A goal down and the Blues got a very soft goal and then heads dropped. You can have the best game plan in the world but if mentally the majority of your team haven't got fortitude to dig that little bit deeper then you will end up with results like last night

Round 1, 2012 = REALITY CHECK

I thought our back 6 outside of Rance & Morris (and I will cut Ellis some slack here) were terrible.

Sadly Post showed last night why as I have said many times I don't think he will make it. He should be embarrassed by his game last night. I hate the term "soft" in the AFL because for players to get to this level they aren't soft. But when you refuse to go in for the ball and pull out of contess when you are about to cop a hit or hard body contact then what else can you call it? He was worse than terrible

We were promised from now on players have to earn games, then that should by extension players who play badly should get dropped. While understanding you can't drop all of them, there are some who simply don't deserve to wear that jumper not only next week but any time soon until they show they are committed to not just the jumper but the contest
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Tigermonk on March 30, 2012, 08:00:13 AM
shattered  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Penelope on March 30, 2012, 09:42:08 AM
I must admit the chicken little response is not as bad ad I thought.

What did people think martin's game? I notice that he barely gets a mention.
People often talk about players killing momentum....

Misses a "gimme" goal, and badly, one that would have put us with in a point.

Follows it up with a poor chase on betts ( i think). you could see martins effort drop off once he realised he could'nt catch him. The thing was that betts ran into trouble, which meant that if martin had chased hard he would have got to the contest, but by dropping off it allowed carlton to clear, and goal.

soon after he wrapped up judd in a tackle, but beacause it was half hearted he allowed judd to get his hands free, dish off and this resulted in another carlton goal.  basically that is game over from there.

He tackles and chases like he has to, not because he wants to. even nahas is a more proficient tackler than martin pound for pound

Martin needs to improve his defensive aspect still. he needs to learn that he can still impact games, even when he isn't with the ball.

Post was atrocious.

Vickery was poor up up forward, but at least tapped to advantage in the ruck.

Newman gave every indication that the pace of the game has gone past him.

Conca should not have played, particularily when you compare his output to their sub, lucas. he just lacked that edge you can only get from playing, rather than training.  we really needed those fresh legs to be match fit.

I though maric minor showed glimpses and although was relatively quiet ( not robinson carusoe there) his ability to spot up players in the forward 50 should be a valuable asset.

Morris's attack on the ball... :clapping. I reckon there were times that carlton forward were second guessing whether he was going to make them earn their kick. The amount of times he had to leave his man to pressure a loose blue taking possession was an indictment on the side as whole, but gee he does it like a madman.

Ellis, again without a lot of the ball, showed that he does belong when he did get it .

Deledio did a lot of hard work without having a major impact. i must admit i was surprised to see the amount of possessions he got. wasnt his fault we lost

Cotchin, atlthough his impact was curtailed a bit after swapping the tag to him at 1/4 time he carried the side  :bow

People question why griffiths has been playing down back, well last night answered that. we need a mosnter backman. simple as that. As much as rance has improved he struggles in the air against tall forwards, as does grimes. Untill we get that monster backmen we are going to get exposed down back when we get touched up in the middle.

funny how edwards gets singled out when there were so many poor performers. he was involved in a number of goals at least and didnt do a lot wrong, just didn't get involved enough.

Maric major.....he tried.

Overall we were beaten by a better side. The final margin is not a true reflection of the game, as it was really only the last quarter we we were cracked wide open. A trend in modern football, particlarily with young sides against more seasoned ones. The old adage about tall players not getting any smaller when the players get tired was shown once again to be true as the tall scum forwards ran riot as fatigue set in.

The media will be thinking mission accomplished. got every one worked up and then the fall. they will peeing themselves this morning.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 30, 2012, 10:00:49 AM
Follows it up with a poor chase on betts ( i think). you could see martins effort drop off once he realised he could'nt catch him. The thing was that betts ran into trouble, which meant that if martin had chased hard he would have got to the contest, but by dropping off it allowed carlton to clear, and goal.

If that's the chase I thinking of al, then the fact he expected big Ivan to do the hard chaisng left me like this  :gobdrop :gobdrop

It was extremely poor and simply not good enough
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: dwaino on March 30, 2012, 10:14:40 AM
After sleeping on it I'm still stoked with Morris. Never thought I'd say it,  but I hope McGuane comes in next week. It pains me to think of Post going to Dawes. Glad I'll be in Tassie next weekend and won't have to tune into footy.

I think the AFL site said Maric won the hitouts and got 18possies? I'll take that. Hard to expect many to keep up with Kreuzer around the ground.

Hoping the Wright or Darrou experiment works out and we can have a monster defender next year.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: rogerd3 on March 30, 2012, 10:19:03 AM
Dustin Martin you need to chase son, this is starting
to become a trait in your game..

Its Dustin watching this season,  not when he has the ball
hey he is fine in that regard,  but when he dosent..lets see
he goes through the year.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: 1965 on March 30, 2012, 10:33:11 AM


Dusty is still only a 20yo kid, plenty of time for improvement.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: JVT on March 30, 2012, 10:38:10 AM
What frustrated me last night was the amount of times the scum were able to waltz in to an open goal. I think they kicked 7 goals running into the goal square!  :banghead :banghead Don't know how many times we see a 2 on 2 in the scum forward line where Betts or Garlett stay on the ground, the 2 Tigers go up, ball falls behind the pack and off they waltz for an easy goal . . .

Post was pathetic, couldn't take a mark to save his life, didn't chase hard when it was his errors causing us to chase and time after time goes into a contest half bummed. His decision making was worse than his marking and thats saying something as neither were evident.

I think we played better in patches yesterday, but again, it comes down to switching off in the last quarter. That, and Kreuzer had an absolute monster of a game.

Not to mention how many times we laid a tackle, the scum player drops the ball like its a hot potato after clearly having possesion and the maggots waved their arms in the air for play on . . . . however when Tucky did the same thing, they didnt hesitate to call 'holding the ball'.  :banghead

Cotchin is all class, Maric tried his heart out and was 100 fold better than Gus (looked worse thanks to Kreuzer), Deledio was solid, Martin needs to chase when he doesn't have it., but going forward he is A grade. Morris was important in the pressure he applied, his stats aren't going to be overly impressive, but his chasing and determination to win the ball was evident. Ellis looked about as solid as you would expect for a kid in his first game in front of 80k people. Rance our best defender by a long margin.

I thought Newy and Houli were disappointing last night also, needed better from them both.

Hopefully Waite finally sees a suspension this time for his knock on Grimes.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: tony_montana on March 30, 2012, 11:10:24 AM
Geezus... And you all thought I would over react :whistle
. C'mon, my post was sensible!!  ;D

Mate, it was pretty dissapointing

We lost the second quarter and got blown out midway into the 4th. Still a few things to take away.

My old man is a QAFL level coach (nothing to gloat about but still insightful) and he's constantly picking. Anyone at the game notice the kick ins? I was front of third tier Ponsford and got a good view of structures. We had NO kick in plan. Zip. Newy held the ball up and there was no movement. Players were flat footed and Carlton held the gaps and their talls sheltered the press. Our kick ins turned into junior style of kicking to any free man you can find, or bomb long. Every team is employing a press. We need a get out tactic. Also, we never employed a press. We flooded and left open centre squares. Another I picked up was when Carlton were switching, our boys were running hard to cover their men and the new holes. But if you watched the linker, every time he would look down the guts to see if we had a free man due to one of our blokes straggling or losing their man due GI hurriedly getting numbers in front. They hurt us every time with this.

Great post dwaino, I was right where you were in th ponsford and could see the way they murdered us on the spread all night. I think we were naive, a little lazy and typically just expected that it would happen, tonight - was a rude awakening. I'm not writing us off yet, we're better than that even by our standards  :lol.

Where abouts exactly were you, tones? Small world if we were on top of each other lol. I was on the front railing immediately in front of where the booze was sold, in front of escalators. I was pretty vocal and often yelled "slimy green maggot!" if you heard that and saw it coming from a tattood bloke in a media polo sitting with a couple old fellas/ferals (dad and uncle)... That was me ;D

haha, i was about 20 metres to your right then, in line with the rh point post a few rows up from the railing, had the mrs and daughter with me. small world  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Mr Magic on March 30, 2012, 11:47:34 AM
Our endevour for 3/4s was good but Carlton are simply much better than us.

Fair bit of work to do to bridge that gap.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Willy on March 30, 2012, 12:11:17 PM
beaten by a side with more class and a much more 'rounded' list.
The hype around us was unjustified.
I'm disappointed but not really all that surprised.
Let's see how we go next week.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: cub on March 30, 2012, 12:26:24 PM
Lid on, Gas off, season over, cricket bats at the ready! ;D
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Penelope on March 30, 2012, 12:29:23 PM
That was pretty intense game at times last night. In the past that sort of pressure would have seen us totally wilt. we even fought back when the game looked lost, only to stumble in the home straight

when was last time we fielded a side capable of doing that?

things have improved, but we still have a long way to go, as dimma keeps saying himself.

too many people went looking for reasons why we would win and started to believe their own BS. It was really just wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Ox on March 30, 2012, 12:40:29 PM
stuffen coaches that continually say were a long way off should stuff OFF
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Penelope on March 30, 2012, 12:44:33 PM
...as opposed to supporters who cry like bunnies and tell the world how crap we are?
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: dwaino on March 30, 2012, 12:52:08 PM
...as opposed to supporters who cry like bunnies and tell the world how crap we are?

 :thumbsup

Those sorts should stuff off for the sake of their own health, and the club.

 :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Captain__Blood on March 30, 2012, 06:56:16 PM
 - Do not understand how Post can have a bloke jump into the back of his head with the ball nowhere in site (2nd Q, about 14m) and not get a free kick.
 - fumblingpresent participle of fum·ble (Verb)
Verb:
1.Use the hands clumsily while doing or handling something.
2.(of the hands) Do or handle something clumsily.

 - Cartlons aboringals are far too fast for us.  :(
 - Tuck (or Edwards, or Jackson) if in the team should be the sub. Conca, one of our few skilled blokes should be in the starting 21.
 - If our 4 stars dont have great games we struggle.
 - Did not think Grigg, Miller, Edwards, Jackson were much good.

Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: Yeahright on March 31, 2012, 12:48:52 AM
stuffen coaches that continually say were a long way off should stuff OFF

your an absolute flog
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: tdy on March 31, 2012, 03:22:43 PM
What happened to Houli?
Just a  bad day at the office or had Carlton thought out our back line and realized how important he is to us as a distributor and deliberately stopped him.

I didn't get to see the whole game but he was under pressure whenever I saw him get the ball, was he being tagged?
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: one-eyed on April 02, 2012, 03:07:43 AM
What happened to Houli?
Just a  bad day at the office or had Carlton thought out our back line and realized how important he is to us as a distributor and deliberately stopped him.

I didn't get to see the whole game but he was under pressure whenever I saw him get the ball, was he being tagged?
Re: tag - Not from what I saw tidyman. Ratten prior to Thursday night made no secret of Carlton targetting Houli, Newy and Lids. He saw those three as our key players off HB. In the end he was right as we really struggled to get clean and clear rebounds out of defence. Of course our kick-ins were a complete joke too.
Title: Re: Richmond V Carlton Round 1
Post by: one-eyed on April 02, 2012, 02:32:37 PM
The groans of Melbourne supporters through the second half were tortured but familiar. They were surpassed only by the moans of Tiger fans.

The Richmond brethren know nothing of self-preservation. You could have some sympathy for the club as it’s hard to say whether the annual case of Elevated Expectation Syndrome was of its making or cast on its behalf. Either way, by the time they took to the MCG the hype was palpable.

Richmond lost for the purest reason possible. It isn’t good enough to beat a top four aspirant like Carlton. The Blues debunked the preseason form and, once they’d soaked the early enthusiasm of their rivals, the class differential was inescapable.

Instead of celebrating the gains – Ivan Maric looks a sustainable answer in the ruck and Trent Cotchin is ready to become the team’s best player – Tiger fans had the air drained from them by a defeat they could have factored in.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-04-02/gerard-whateley-april-2/3927286/?site=melbourne