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Title: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Jackstar is back again on January 25, 2012, 08:49:05 AM
those who live  around Waverley, you might want to get there and have a look at the scratch match there today.
Starts at 9.00am.
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Phil Mrakov on January 25, 2012, 11:13:14 AM
Off BF:
Quote
They won by around 15. It was hard to tell though cause even if a goal was scored they would kick it out or do a boundary throw in etc to simulate different situations.

Good things; our intensity was good, the young guys didn't take a back step. Post was very solid and grimes is a man possessed probably should mark more. White ran hard made some nice passes, king broke the lines a bit.

Derickx and vickery have strong hands, around 5-6 contested marks between them (game went for 2 x 20 min qtrs) we switched the ball well but still over possessed at times which got us into trouble. We looked inside when passing too.

Arnott and Ellis impressed, very hard at it. Arnott throws his weight around. Cleaned a hawks player up and he stayed down for a while..

Below are notes I took on my phone, bit scratchy and negative but its something. I'll try add more later.

Richmond v hawks game;
Pre game training, graham dropped some easy marks. Ball launched into the air. Maric has strong hands.
Game;
- good ball movement. Derickx good hands. Arnott sheperds.
Helbig fumble under pressure
-maric hard at it
-Jackson needs to use first option
-graham needs to not kick.
-Connors playing up forward
-we get exposed on the rebound.
-struggle from kick ins
Tried to maintain possession in the middle of the ground. As soon as we played on with a dinky handball we turned it over.
- Ellis kicking out
- sloppy handballing when trying to play on quickly around half forward.
- grimes always gives a contest
-switching better, looking inside a lot.
-post looks good

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?s=be1ec6655a536efe16fe5ea1aa6abad6&p=23232020&postcount=6

Edited: to include link to source - reminder you must include a link to the original source when you use a direct quote off the interent
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Jackstar is back again on January 25, 2012, 02:29:10 PM
Just got back .
Will say this.
Dimma would be pulling his hair out at a few.
Daniel Connors ::)
Maric ?? Goes hard ,but was up against Adam Pattison who is rookied by the Hawks.
Turnovers turnovers turnovers
None of our guns played, none of theirs either
although we would of had a more senior team in
Shoemakers was probably there most experienced.
Vickery looks set for a big year.
Derickx as well.
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on January 25, 2012, 02:35:34 PM
I stopped by for a while
Was happy with what I saw from Derikx, agree with Jackstar there
Brandon Ellis wasnt too bad either, and was handling kick in duties when I got there
Some good passages of play and some not so good.
Agree with the turnover's comment and also when the hawks were coming outta defence it didnt take long nor was hard work to get into F50 or a result.

Alot of what I saw covered in that BF post anyhow
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: torch on January 25, 2012, 04:31:09 PM
Did Hawthorn win by 15 points?

Who played and who scored goals?
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: one-eyed on January 25, 2012, 04:51:28 PM
Did Hawthorn win by 15 points?

Who played and who scored goals?
According to the report on BF the Hawks by 15.

It sounds like this was another one of those joint Richmond-Hawthorn sessions for both clubs' younger players spoken about last year and organised between Clarkson and Dimma.
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on January 25, 2012, 04:56:47 PM
Just got back .
Will say this.
Dimma would be pulling his hair out at a few.
Daniel Connors ::)
Maric ?? Goes hard ,but was up against Adam Pattison who is rookied by the Hawks.
Turnovers turnovers turnovers
None of our guns played, none of theirs either
although we would of had a more senior team in
Shoemakers was probably there most experienced.
Vickery looks set for a big year.
Derickx as well.

The turnovers and poor kicking I keep hearing about (and have witnessed) from training and now this paint a consistent and very concerning picture.  >:(

The culprits need to be read the riot act and told to improve or GF to Coburg, otherwise it's going to be a long long year for us fans.

Not good enough in modern football.  :banghead

Connors is a lost cause and a complete waste of space. Has lost alot of size to the point it is now a liabilty for him. Is clearly going through the motions of his contract and will be goneski at the end.
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: JVT on January 25, 2012, 05:04:58 PM
It was a hit out for the younger guys, probably not used to the game plan, they would have been playing like the first 9 rounds of 2010.  :rollin Will be different when the experienced players are in the side.
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: TigerLand on January 25, 2012, 05:16:36 PM
Bottom half of list is rubbish, no surpirses.

Glad to hear RE: Derickx, really like this lad.
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Danog on January 25, 2012, 05:45:35 PM
Bottom half of list is rubbish, no surpirses.

Glad to hear RE: Derickx, really like this lad.
Good to hear positives.  ::)

I'd say bottom quarter is rubbish  ;)
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Jackstar is back again on January 25, 2012, 06:22:13 PM
Did Hawthorn win by 15 points?

Who played and who scored goals?
According to the report on BF the Hawks by 15.

It sounds like this was another one of those joint Richmond-Hawthorn sessions for both clubs' younger players spoken about last year and organised between Clarkson and Dimma.

Correct, thought the margin was 3 goals.
we did play alot of middle of the list players
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: one-eyed on January 25, 2012, 07:09:07 PM
The Hawthorn squad was Smith, Bruest, Suckling, Bailey, Frank, Wanganeen, Kelly, Culkin, Woodward, Hallahan, Schnieder, Savage, Patto, Gunston, Cheney, Schoey, Langers, Puopolo, Hill, Duryea and Litherland.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=905448

A view of us from a Hawks fan:

I wouldn't expect either side to take much out of todays game. Both sides were very junior.

Hawks were also very sloppy with the footy, but then again it's the first game against an unknown opponent, so the structures and pressures are different to what they have been doing during the pre season.

Your tall structures up forward look good, but then again you didn't have Riewoldt there, so not sure what your real structure would look like. You did manage to get a guy free on a few occasions in the F50, which is good for you and a worry for us.

You also seem to play a guy who plays loose in defence, but right on the boundary, as a get out option. Not sure who the player was, but he was basically unmanned and stays within 5-10 metres of the chalk. You used him a bit to clear it out of D50. Must be one of your better users of the footy.

Nahas played up the ground in a rebounding role. King was further up the ground too. Gibson Turner looks to have a great turn of speed.

Some of your blokes were having a real crack (possibly a bit more than what the agreement was), and I think Arnott, who cleaned up Hallahan was told to ease up, and ensured he made an apology after the siren.


http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=23232777&postcount=20
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on January 25, 2012, 09:53:27 PM


http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=905448

A view of us from a Hawks fan:

Some of your blokes were having a real crack (possibly a bit more than what the agreement was), and I think Arnott, who cleaned up Hallahan was told to ease up, and ensured he made an apology after the siren.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=23232777&postcount=20

No deal. Eff em
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: WA Tiger on January 25, 2012, 10:15:24 PM
Just got back .
Will say this.
Dimma would be pulling his hair out at a few.
Daniel Connors ::)
Maric ?? Goes hard ,but was up against Adam Pattison who is rookied by the Hawks.
Turnovers turnovers turnovers
None of our guns played, none of theirs either
although we would of had a more senior team in
Shoemakers was probably there most experienced.
Vickery looks set for a big year.
Derickx as well.

The turnovers and poor kicking I keep hearing about (and have witnessed) from training and now this paint a consistent and very concerning picture.  >:(

The culprits need to be read the riot act and told to improve or GF to Coburg, otherwise it's going to be a long long year for us fans.

Not good enough in modern football.  :banghead

Connors is a lost cause and a complete waste of space. Has lost alot of size to the point it is now a liabilty for him. Is clearly going through the motions of his contract and will be goneski at the end.

Um...Drama Queen....FFS a scratch match worth nothing...more concerned about Lids contract... :whistle :whistle :whistle ::)
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on January 25, 2012, 10:53:37 PM
Just got back .
Will say this.
Dimma would be pulling his hair out at a few.
Daniel Connors ::)
Maric ?? Goes hard ,but was up against Adam Pattison who is rookied by the Hawks.
Turnovers turnovers turnovers
None of our guns played, none of theirs either
although we would of had a more senior team in
Shoemakers was probably there most experienced.
Vickery looks set for a big year.
Derickx as well.

The turnovers and poor kicking I keep hearing about (and have witnessed) from training and now this paint a consistent and very concerning picture.  >:(

The culprits need to be read the riot act and told to improve or GF to Coburg, otherwise it's going to be a long long year for us fans.

Not good enough in modern football.  :banghead

Connors is a lost cause and a complete waste of space. Has lost alot of size to the point it is now a liabilty for him. Is clearly going through the motions of his contract and will be goneski at the end.

Um...Drama Queen....FFS a scratch match worth nothing...more concerned about Lids contract... :whistle :whistle :whistle ::)

Oh yeah, nothing, gee whiz *hurls more chum*, how's that contract I know I'm super concerned  :police:

Lawlawlawlawl Edward is lighting up tha track  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: WA Tiger on January 25, 2012, 11:22:15 PM
Just got back .
Will say this.
Dimma would be pulling his hair out at a few.
Daniel Connors ::)
Maric ?? Goes hard ,but was up against Adam Pattison who is rookied by the Hawks.
Turnovers turnovers turnovers
None of our guns played, none of theirs either
although we would of had a more senior team in
Shoemakers was probably there most experienced.
Vickery looks set for a big year.
Derickx as well.

The turnovers and poor kicking I keep hearing about (and have witnessed) from training and now this paint a consistent and very concerning picture.  >:(

The culprits need to be read the riot act and told to improve or GF to Coburg, otherwise it's going to be a long long year for us fans.

Not good enough in modern football.  :banghead

Connors is a lost cause and a complete waste of space. Has lost alot of size to the point it is now a liabilty for him. Is clearly going through the motions of his contract and will be goneski at the end.

Um...Drama Queen....FFS a scratch match worth nothing...more concerned about Lids contract... :whistle :whistle :whistle ::)

Oh yeah, nothing, gee whiz *hurls more chum*, how's that contract I know I'm super concerned  :police:

Lawlawlawlawl Edward is lighting up tha track  :thumbsup

Um ....ok...back to rehab for you DD... :jump :stupid
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Owl on January 26, 2012, 09:47:35 AM


http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=905448

A view of us from a Hawks fan:

Some of your blokes were having a real crack (possibly a bit more than what the agreement was), and I think Arnott, who cleaned up Hallahan was told to ease up, and ensured he made an apology after the siren.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=23232777&postcount=20

No deal. Eff em
Lawl
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on January 27, 2012, 06:53:26 AM
Ben Elton also took a couple of good marks in foward line, but both resulted in poaters.
I'd say that might be just the nerves, with some confidence behind him he will show some good signs
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Sabretooth on January 27, 2012, 08:59:48 AM
Ben Elton also took a couple of good marks in foward line, but both resulted in poaters.
I'd say that might be just the nerves, with some confidence behind him he will show some good signs

Is that Floaters or Posters? Or a Floating poster?  :lol
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on January 27, 2012, 09:21:33 AM
Pointers?
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on January 27, 2012, 11:44:33 AM
Sorry gents, posters. I'm using my phone again
Although a ploater has a nice ring to it.
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Owl on January 27, 2012, 05:16:59 PM
sounds like what the kids leave in the bath sometimes...
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on January 27, 2012, 05:26:10 PM
sounds like what the kids leave in the bath sometimes...

Lawlawlawlawl  ;D
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: tony_montana on January 27, 2012, 10:59:20 PM
sounds like what the kids leave in the bath sometimes...

Lawlawlawlawl  ;D

X2   :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Tigermonk on January 28, 2012, 11:54:11 AM
The Hawks got thier man Pattison  ;D we got trash again  :huh
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Jackstar is back again on January 28, 2012, 07:57:30 PM
The Hawks got thier man Pattison  ;D we got trash again  :huh

he is only Rookied after playing with the Box Hill dawks last year
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Tigermonk on January 28, 2012, 09:31:24 PM
The Hawks got thier man Pattison  ;D we got trash again  :huh

he is only Rookied after playing with the Box Hill dawks last year

yeah l know J. Hawks were after him for a few years. He got damaged at Tigerland lol  ;D
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: yellowandback on January 29, 2012, 06:45:54 AM
The Hawks got thier man Pattison  ;D we got trash again  :huh

he is only Rookied after playing with the Box Hill dawks last year

yeah l know J. Hawks were after him for a few years. He got damaged at Tigerland lol  ;D

Yeah, apparently the coaching staff taught him to play with a stoop  :wallywink
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Penelope on January 29, 2012, 08:33:46 AM
cotch plays with a stoop. it's actually advantageous, as long as you straighten up to mark, as it lowers your center of gravity

I remember reading that Emma Quayle was allowed to sit in on a recruiters meeting at Hawthorn and they were very keen on patto in the year we drafted him.

My suspicion is that he is the one player that Hardwick said he would have kept
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: yellowandback on January 29, 2012, 09:53:35 AM
cotch plays with a stoop. it's actually advantageous, as long as you straighten up to mark, as it lowers your center of gravity

I remember reading that Emma Quayle was allowed to sit in on a recruiters meeting at Hawthorn and they were very keen on patto in the year we drafted him.

My suspicion is that he is the one player that Hardwick said he would have kept

Pattos stoop was accentuated when in a marking contest, I believe was recruited to be the jumping bag at training
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Penelope on January 29, 2012, 10:01:44 AM
 :laugh:
not sure what attracted them TBH. he did give his all though
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: tony_montana on January 29, 2012, 11:16:35 AM
cotch plays with a stoop. it's actually advantageous, as long as you straighten up to mark, as it lowers your center of gravity

I remember reading that Emma Quayle was allowed to sit in on a recruiters meeting at Hawthorn and they were very keen on patto in the year we drafted him.

My suspicion is that he is the one player that Hardwick said he would have kept

Pattos stoop was accentuated when in a marking contest, I believe was recruited to be the jumping bag at training

unfortunately he had the agility and lateral movement of a mack truck - Ben Holland 2.0 minus the marking prowess
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Mr Magic on January 29, 2012, 12:06:40 PM
unfortunately he had the agility and lateral movement of a mack truck - Ben Holland 2.0 minus the marking prowess

 :lol Excellent description.

Patto, the guy not tall enough to be a ruckman who can't jump or mark above his head.

Not doubting his heart or work ethic and I'm sure he's a great bloke but the Hawks are welcome to him.
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: The Big Richo on January 29, 2012, 12:40:44 PM
He will always be a member of the Fab 5 to me.
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: 10 FLAGS on January 29, 2012, 06:10:47 PM
The Fab 5 lol ... down to the Fab 1 and he's not signing up either at the moment  :lol
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on January 29, 2012, 06:23:48 PM
(http://rodnews.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/famous-five-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Mr Magic on January 29, 2012, 06:34:04 PM
The Fab 5 lol ... down to the Fab 1 and he's not signing up either at the moment  :lol

Sad ain't it. :huh
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: The Big Richo on January 29, 2012, 07:01:46 PM
Diabolical
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Owl on January 30, 2012, 10:32:13 AM
'Lets have an eclaire and some ginger ale idiot'  Said Anne, frotaging Timmy lovingly twixt his ears.
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: The Big Richo on January 30, 2012, 05:38:32 PM
ANother game this Wednesday?
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on January 30, 2012, 07:34:59 PM
'Lets have an eclaire and some ginger ale idiot'  Said Anne, frotaging Timmy lovingly twixt his ears.

 :lol

Those kids were on the gear for sure. Even the dog looks like he's eaten one too many hash treats.
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Mr Magic on February 01, 2012, 02:32:42 PM
Rumours abound..Was there another practice match today RFCO?
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Penelope on February 01, 2012, 04:33:09 PM
yeah there was. just need to to find a write up from a richmond perspective.

Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Penelope on February 01, 2012, 04:59:52 PM
both sides were minus their top line mids and we "pasted" them at the stoppages, according to a hawk who attended.
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Eat_em_Alive on February 01, 2012, 05:31:27 PM
wouldve swung past if i knew it was on again  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Ox on February 01, 2012, 05:59:26 PM
unfortunately he had the agility and lateral movement of a mack truck - Ben Holland 2.0 minus the marking prowess

 :lol Excellent description.

Patto, the guy not tall enough to be a ruckman who can't jump or mark above his head.

Not doubting his heart or work ethic and I'm sure he's a great bloke but the Hawks are welcome to him.

Alternatively,you have Andrew Browne.
7ft tall and plays like he's 175cm.
Can't mark,can't kick cant run and can't handballyet the club persists.....
It's a mystery.
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Mr Magic on February 01, 2012, 08:58:07 PM
Alternatively,you have Andrew Browne.
7ft tall and plays like he's 175cm.

Averaged 21 hit outs a game last year.
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: taztiger4 on February 01, 2012, 09:46:43 PM
Alternatively,you have Andrew Browne.
7ft tall and plays like he's 175cm.

Averaged 21 hit outs a game last year.
bloody hell Maurice dont go introducing facts into the discussion !
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Loui Tufga on February 01, 2012, 10:58:15 PM
Facts are overated.......
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Dubstep Dookie on February 01, 2012, 10:59:44 PM
................*cough cough*
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Loui Tufga on February 01, 2012, 11:05:25 PM
................*cough cough*

You can remove those two fingers from under your balls now Dude, it's all good down there....
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Penelope on February 01, 2012, 11:06:53 PM
Facts are overated.......
yeah, you can use facts to prove anything that is remotely true
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: gerkin greg on February 01, 2012, 11:11:11 PM
................*cough cough*

You can remove those two fingers from under your balls now Dude, it's all good down there....

Apparently not the case for old Uncle
Speaking of which he should be home soon
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: Loui Tufga on February 01, 2012, 11:15:00 PM
Quote from: Dubstep Dookie link=topic=14782.msg279483#msg279483 :birthday date=1328097584
................*cough cough*

You can remove those two fingers from under your balls now Dude, it's all good down there....

Apparently not the case for old Uncle
Speaking of which he should be home soon

Get Excited
Title: Re: Hawthorn Vs Richmond today
Post by: The Big Richo on February 02, 2012, 07:32:01 PM
Welcome back Coach you salty old dog.