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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: TigerTimeII on March 31, 2012, 03:51:27 PM
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must win game for us in 2 weeks
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lol....you watch, they will fire up just for the occasion.....
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Feeling sorry for their supporters. Given how much this game means to Melbourne, this is an insipid effort by their players.
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yeah one thing that gets quickly forgotten when we overcome in last 10 minutes of the game is we were actually up against premiership fancies, err umm me finks there will be easier days at the office :shh
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i tipped brisbane, went to school with mark neeld, he will be sacked sometime next yr
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i tipped brisbane, went to school with mark neeld, he will be sacked sometime next yr
No, he won't.
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yes he will
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they do fire up against us though, especially Silvia
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Luckily we don't play them next week after they've been given a rocket.
We'll smash them.
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yes he will
Is very well respected at Melbourne. he is the sort of coach they've been looking for.
NFI, guy. sacked within two season lol yeah
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lmao
yep he has earned great respect
nice guy but wont make it
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lmao
yep he has earned great respect
nice guy but wont make it
my mail comes from a player so why don't you stop pretending like you actually have a clue and just be quiet.
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Listen up geezer,
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Snip! Leave out the namecalling and insults ppl! ::)
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i tipped brisbane, went to school with mark neeld, he will be sacked sometime next yr
Malthouse loves him. Said hed make a great coach.
Problem with Melbourne is that they have mediocrititis they find it very difficult to get up the ladder, they cant develop players properly, they loose good players, they are a laughing stock and if they do climb the ladder they fail & come crashing down the ladder again.
Sound familiar?
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the problem with melbourne is they had a coach who set out to lose games.
you reap what you sow
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he was told to pick a side that would get them draft picks. don't post poo like that al you disgraceful neanderthal
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i tipped brisbane, went to school with mark neeld, he will be sacked sometime next yr
Malthouse loves him. Said hed make a great coach.
Problem with Melbourne is that they have mediocrititis they find it very difficult to get up the ladder, they cant develop players properly, they loose good players, they are a laughing stock and if they do climb the ladder they fail & come crashing down the ladder again.
Sound familiar?
malthouse said the same poo about laidley
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he was told to pick a side that would get them draft picks. don't post poo like that al you disgraceful neanderthal
careful son, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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:cutetiger
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Now listen here geezer,
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yes he will
Is very well respected at Melbourne. he is the sort of coach they've been looking for.
NFI, guy. sacked within two season lol yeah
Seen this guy in action firsthand at the western jets, not in the least bit surprised that 4 years on he's a senior coach. Is a quality football person, was spewin when the pies picked him up
As for the op, as ppl have mentioned those pricks always fire up against us, they feel they have our measure, if I was a player I'd be circling games like this to stomp on them and put them in their place
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Melbourne play West Coast in Perth next week. Most likely we will both be 0-2.
Both teams will be needing a win. Given our two weeks after that.
Would hate to see dejavu and see them get flogged in Perth fire up against us and then go lame in the game they hopefully should honour Jimmy with right result.
MUST WIN IN ROUND 3. NOT NEGOTIABLE.
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yes he will
Is very well respected at Melbourne. he is the sort of coach they've been looking for.
NFI, guy. sacked within two season lol yeah
Seen this guy in action firsthand at the western jets, not in the least bit surprised that 4 years on he's a senior coach. Is a quality football person, was spewin when the pies picked him up
:thumbsup
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yep we are in strife .
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lol may just be a totally different feel around here next Sunday morn
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Agree with tucker.
They will play in perth the week before and get burnt.
They will seek redemption at the G against us.
We must beat this poser club with players like silvia, watts and jones ( and that wnkr with the mostache)
no excuses.
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It was a big week for the club
Stynes was an icon for the club and state so I understand why they weren't focused on beating the Lions
If any of you think we will cream them in Rd3 you are dilluded
This game IMO will decide what year our club has
There is absolutely no excuses not one for losing against this pathetic team
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Dunno what dilluded is but sounds like a cross between dildoed and deluded.
Stop sooking Daniel your mascara is running and its an ugly look.
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:lol
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the problem with melbourne is they had a coach who set out to lose games.
you reap what you sow
Unlike Carlton hey Al, or Collingwood who picked up Thomas and Pendles the year they tanked.
The problem Al, not the symptom
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Not everyone who finishes last did it on purpose.
How long did it take carlton to recover from their alleged tanking?
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Didn't notice that they have the Eagles at subi next week.
They will get murdered over there, and then they will come back and fire up to win against us. Then their 10 thousand supporters will do our heads in at the match when Watts kicks 5 on Post.
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Didn't notice that they have the Eagles at subi next week.
They will get murdered over there, and then they will come back and fire up to win against us. Then their 10 thousand supporters will do our heads in at the match when Watts kicks 5 on Post.
just about right there.
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Just watched the replay of the Cats vs Shockers. Funny how a couple of the Cat's mids can be in the back pocket to clear the ball and then in the forward pocket 30 secs later, time and time again, in the last quarter. Bartel and Chappy lead the way. Pity that our mids can't learn from watching that effort.
I thought that was the critical difference between the Blooze and us. Their mids, who aren't renown for it, were prepared to run both ways a lot harder than our guys were.
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Not everyone who finishes last did it on purpose.
How long did it take carlton to recover from their alleged tanking?
Carlton played finals in 2001 and 2012 will be their 4th consecutive year in finals. Compared to the Tigers tanking has been a huge success!
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Remember we said the same thing in round 4, 2009 and we lost :help. SEN today were sure putting us in the same boat as the Dees today ::).
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Remember we said the same thing in round 4, 2009 and we lost :help. SEN today were sure putting us in the same boat as the Dees today ::).
Let me tell you MT, we don't beat the toffs in Round 3 and its a long way back from 0-5 to 12th spot let alone 6-10 position.
Anyone ever made finals having lost their first 5 in the same season?
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Remember we said the same thing in round 4, 2009 and we lost :help. SEN today were sure putting us in the same boat as the Dees today ::).
Let me tell you MT, we don't beat the toffs in Round 3 and its a long way back from 0-5 to 12th spot let alone 6-10 position.
Anyone ever made finals having lost their first 5 in the same season?
Nup.
I never saw us and still don't see us making the finals. While our top end has improved, we are still too young and inexperienced and our depth across our list still isn't there. You would remember I told Craig Cameron that last year ;).
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Not everyone who finishes last did it on purpose.
How long did it take carlton to recover from their alleged tanking?
Carlton played finals in 2001 and 2012 will be their 4th consecutive year in finals. Compared to the Tigers tanking has been a huge success!
what year did they set out to deliberately lose matches?
compared to the tigers everyone has been a huge success
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we could pee talk whether melb loss was worse than ours, facts where we lost to a side widely tipped to be Top 3 or 4 this year, whereas Melbourne....Put that asie, we cant afford to take anyone lightly, we need our A grade game ea week...and that should take care of 14 or so sides in the comp :shh
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Not everyone who finishes last did it on purpose.
How long did it take carlton to recover from their alleged tanking?
Carlton played finals in 2001 and 2012 will be their 4th consecutive year in finals. Compared to the Tigers tanking has been a huge success!
what year did they set out to deliberately lose matches?
compared to the tigers everyone has been a huge success
So are you suggesting that Carlton never tanked?
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no what i'm suggesting (originally) is that by deliberately creating a losing culture Melbourne now have a lot of work to undo that culture.
But in the above post you quoted, i am asking what year did Calrton set out to deliberately lose games..
Not to sure if i can make the question any simpler :huh
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no what i'm suggesting (originally) is that by deliberately creating a losing culture Melbourne now have a lot of work to undo that culture.
But in the above post you quoted, i am asking what year did Calrton set out to deliberately lose games..
Not to sure if i can make the question any simpler :huh
The question is ambiguous because you appear to be differentiating deliberate losing with tanking
If so, what is the difference, if not are you suggesting Carlton never tanked. :-\
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no if i had said tanking then the question is ambiguous.
Tanking by definition is to deliberately lose. It stems from boxing terminology to take a dive or more precisely to dive into the tank. A Tank being a term in the USA for a pool way back then. you could use use the term match fixing, but generally that is used when money is involved and tanking is used when draft picks are involved, again coming from the USA, but basically both refer to deliberately losing. The term tanking has also been used in politics in the USA , but still refers to candidates setting out to lose.
Many people who follow AFL refer to tanking as things like putting injured players in for surgery, trying players in different positions giving youngsters a game or two and playing bordeline players just so you have a last look at them before cutting, as tanking, but that is not what i am talking about
so the term tanking is ambiguous, as different people see it as having different reasons.
I deliberately have not used the term tanking in this particular discussion, for that reason.
I have only referred to deliberately losing games.
So the simple, unambiguous question remains, what year did Carlton deliberately lose games?
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Mate, I see tanking as deliberately losing and couldnt give a rats about how it is used in the USA.
For that reason, to me, your question was ambiguous. As the question was put to me and not an American maybe you can see that.
Simple enough?
Anyway, to answer your question - Kruezer Cup in r22 2007. And to be honest, we looked very sus against the saints in the same year.
Although it can be argued, I would say that the Eagles deliberately lost games in 2010, Collingwood when they picked up priority draft picks.
They are 2 sides that made "miraculous" climbs up the ladder in subsequent years.
It appears you think the Demons are the only side to have this culture. I dont agree.
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seems we are playing the game of twister, are you suggesting that two years deliberately losing by melbourne played no part in them being the rabble they are now. that was my original point.
Sorry I didnt realise that you and Hard Roar Tiger were one and the same?
But, just to clarify the answer to the question i put to Hard Roar Tiger, (which i didnt realise was in fact you)
carlton deliberately lost in 2007 and it was one game?
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seems we are playing the game of twister, are you suggesting that two years deliberately losing by melbourne played no part in them being the rabble they are now. that was my original point.
Where did I post that? How is this Twister? Because I don't agree with your American definition of tanking?
I also think a fanny is a vag ;D
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Oh dear :-[
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no if i had said tanking then the question is ambiguous.
Tanking by definition is to deliberately lose. It stems from boxing terminology to take a dive or more precisely to dive into the tank. A Tank being a term in the USA for a pool way back then. you could use use the term match fixing, but generally that is used when money is involved and tanking is used when draft picks are involved, again coming from the USA, but basically both refer to deliberately losing. The term tanking has also been used in politics in the USA , but still refers to candidates setting out to lose.
Many people who follow AFL refer to tanking as things like putting injured players in for surgery, trying players in different positions giving youngsters a game or two and playing bordeline players just so you have a last look at them before cutting, as tanking, but that is not what i am talking about
so the term tanking is ambiguous, as different people see it as having different reasons.
I deliberately have not used the term tanking in this particular discussion, for that reason.
I have only referred to deliberately losing games.
So the simple, unambiguous question remains, what year did Carlton deliberately lose games?
The year of the Kruezer cup and to be able to nail Judd by having the added draft pick, the year before that and the year before that.
Surely youre not suggesting that Melbourne tanked but carlton didnt? Also ftr, collingwood took advantage of the system, its hilarious a side can play 2 GF's in a row and 2 years later land Pendles and Thomas with 2 top 4 picks or whatever it was. All teams milked it, Haweks did too, purposely not playing guys like dutchy holland and playing roughead instead even though he was pretty useless for the first few seasons
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no if i had said tanking then the question is ambiguous.
Tanking by definition is to deliberately lose. It stems from boxing terminology to take a dive or more precisely to dive into the tank. A Tank being a term in the USA for a pool way back then. you could use use the term match fixing, but generally that is used when money is involved and tanking is used when draft picks are involved, again coming from the USA, but basically both refer to deliberately losing. The term tanking has also been used in politics in the USA , but still refers to candidates setting out to lose.
Many people who follow AFL refer to tanking as things like putting injured players in for surgery, trying players in different positions giving youngsters a game or two and playing bordeline players just so you have a last look at them before cutting, as tanking, but that is not what i am talking about
so the term tanking is ambiguous, as different people see it as having different reasons.
I deliberately have not used the term tanking in this particular discussion, for that reason.
I have only referred to deliberately losing games.
So the simple, unambiguous question remains, what year did Carlton deliberately lose games?
The year of the Kruezer cup and to be able to nail Judd by having the added draft pick, the year before that and the year before that.
Surely youre not suggesting that Melbourne tanked but carlton didnt? Also ftr, collingwood took advantage of the system, its hilarious a side can play 2 GF's in a row and 2 years later land Pendles and Thomas with 2 top 4 picks or whatever it was. All teams milked it, Haweks did too, purposely not playing guys like dutchy holland and playing roughead instead even though he was pretty useless for the first few seasons
We are playing Post instead of McGuane. Surely we aren't tanking? :lol
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no if i had said tanking then the question is ambiguous.
Tanking by definition is to deliberately lose. It stems from boxing terminology to take a dive or more precisely to dive into the tank. A Tank being a term in the USA for a pool way back then. you could use use the term match fixing, but generally that is used when money is involved and tanking is used when draft picks are involved, again coming from the USA, but basically both refer to deliberately losing. The term tanking has also been used in politics in the USA , but still refers to candidates setting out to lose.
Many people who follow AFL refer to tanking as things like putting injured players in for surgery, trying players in different positions giving youngsters a game or two and playing bordeline players just so you have a last look at them before cutting, as tanking, but that is not what i am talking about
so the term tanking is ambiguous, as different people see it as having different reasons.
I deliberately have not used the term tanking in this particular discussion, for that reason.
I have only referred to deliberately losing games.
So the simple, unambiguous question remains, what year did Carlton deliberately lose games?
The year of the Kruezer cup and to be able to nail Judd by having the added draft pick, the year before that and the year before that.
Surely youre not suggesting that Melbourne tanked but carlton didnt? Also ftr, collingwood took advantage of the system, its hilarious a side can play 2 GF's in a row and 2 years later land Pendles and Thomas with 2 top 4 picks or whatever it was. All teams milked it, Haweks did too, purposely not playing guys like dutchy holland and playing roughead instead even though he was pretty useless for the first few seasons
I'm not suggesting anything, i asking a question FFS.
do my posts get translated into chinese and back into english or something?
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I'm not suggesting anything, i asking a question FFS.
do my posts get translated into chinese and back into english or something?
translate.reference.com
English to Chinese:
我不建議任何東西,我要求一個問題是.做我員額得到翻譯成中文,再譯成英文或嗎?
Chinese to English:
I do not propose any raiment, that I have to ask a question, do I get additional Members interest, and interest in Chinese into English or?
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:lol
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;D
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no if i had said tanking then the question is ambiguous.
Tanking by definition is to deliberately lose. It stems from boxing terminology to take a dive or more precisely to dive into the tank. A Tank being a term in the USA for a pool way back then. you could use use the term match fixing, but generally that is used when money is involved and tanking is used when draft picks are involved, again coming from the USA, but basically both refer to deliberately losing. The term tanking has also been used in politics in the USA , but still refers to candidates setting out to lose.
Many people who follow AFL refer to tanking as things like putting injured players in for surgery, trying players in different positions giving youngsters a game or two and playing bordeline players just so you have a last look at them before cutting, as tanking, but that is not what i am talking about
so the term tanking is ambiguous, as different people see it as having different reasons.
I deliberately have not used the term tanking in this particular discussion, for that reason.
I have only referred to deliberately losing games.
So the simple, unambiguous question remains, what year did Carlton deliberately lose games?
The year of the Kruezer cup and to be able to nail Judd by having the added draft pick, the year before that and the year before that.
Surely youre not suggesting that Melbourne tanked but carlton didnt? Also ftr, collingwood took advantage of the system, its hilarious a side can play 2 GF's in a row and 2 years later land Pendles and Thomas with 2 top 4 picks or whatever it was. All teams milked it, Haweks did too, purposely not playing guys like dutchy holland and playing roughead instead even though he was pretty useless for the first few seasons
I'm not suggesting anything, i asking a question FFS.
do my posts get translated into chinese and back into english or something?
fair enough, just looked like you were asking a loaded question
lmao dwaino :lol
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Richo on 3aw said he'll commentate Saturday night footy next week in his undies if Richmond loses to Melbourne (we play Sat. arvo).
The media no doubt are going to build the pressure up on this game so they can go to town on the loser. 3aw are already saying season over (no finals) for the loser.
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sheesh how can our season be over already when we have had the draw from hell ....As kevin killer sheedy once said...no judgements should be made before round 7.
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Must win! No excuses!
If we lose this then we don't deserve to play finals.. We have put in decent performances against the blooze and pies and if we lose this game I will find it very hard to smile again this season.
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sheesh how can our season be over already when we have had the draw from hell ....As kevin killer sheedy once said...no judgements should be made before round 7.
I actually agree if we lose next week then its all she wrote for season 2012.
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sheesh how can our season be over already when we have had the draw from hell ....As kevin killer sheedy once said...no judgements should be made before round 7.
I actually agree if we lose next week then its all she wrote for season 2012.
FFS Even Flags can see it!
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sheesh how can our season be over already when we have had the draw from hell ....As kevin killer sheedy once said...no judgements should be made before round 7.
I actually agree if we lose next week then its all she wrote for season 2012.
FFS Even Flags can see it!
thanx for the sign of confidence ;D