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Re: Melbourne surely cant beat us
« Reply #45 on: April 01, 2012, 05:19:04 PM »
Mate, I see tanking as deliberately losing and couldnt give a rats about how it is used in the USA.

For that reason, to me, your question was ambiguous. As the question was put to me and not an American maybe you can see that.

Simple enough?

Anyway, to answer your question - Kruezer Cup in r22 2007.  And to be honest, we looked very sus against the saints in the same year.
Although it can be argued, I would say that the Eagles deliberately lost games in 2010, Collingwood when they picked up priority draft picks.
They are 2 sides that made "miraculous" climbs up the ladder in subsequent years.

It appears you think the Demons are the only side to have this culture. I dont agree.
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Re: Melbourne surely cant beat us
« Reply #46 on: April 01, 2012, 05:52:04 PM »
seems we are playing the game of twister, are you suggesting that two years deliberately losing by melbourne played no part in them being the rabble they are now. that was my original point.

Sorry I didnt realise that you and Hard Roar Tiger were one and the same?

But, just to clarify the answer to the question i put to Hard Roar Tiger, (which i didnt realise was in fact you)
carlton deliberately lost in 2007 and it was one game?

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Re: Melbourne surely cant beat us
« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2012, 06:48:58 PM »
seems we are playing the game of twister, are you suggesting that two years deliberately losing by melbourne played no part in them being the rabble they are now. that was my original point.

Where did I post that? How is this Twister? Because I don't agree with your American definition of tanking?

I also think a fanny is a vag  ;D
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Re: Melbourne surely cant beat us
« Reply #48 on: April 01, 2012, 07:00:18 PM »
Oh dear  :-[

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Re: Melbourne surely cant beat us
« Reply #49 on: April 02, 2012, 04:54:03 PM »
no if i had said tanking then the question is ambiguous.

Tanking by definition is to deliberately lose. It stems from boxing terminology to take a dive or more precisely to dive into the tank. A Tank being a term in the USA for a pool way back then. you could use use the term match fixing, but generally that is used when money is involved and tanking is used when draft picks are involved, again coming from the USA, but basically both refer to deliberately losing. The term tanking has also been used in politics in the USA , but still refers to candidates setting out to lose.

Many people who follow AFL refer to tanking as things like putting injured players in for surgery, trying players in different positions giving youngsters a game or two and playing bordeline players just so you have a last look at them before cutting, as tanking, but that is not what i am talking about

so the term tanking is ambiguous, as different people see it as having different reasons.

I deliberately have not used the term tanking in this particular discussion, for that reason.

I have only referred to deliberately losing games.

So the simple, unambiguous question remains, what year did Carlton deliberately lose games?

The year of the Kruezer cup and to be able to nail Judd by having the added draft pick, the year before that and the year before that.

Surely youre not suggesting that Melbourne tanked but carlton didnt?  Also ftr, collingwood took advantage of the system, its hilarious a side can play 2 GF's in a row and 2 years later land Pendles and Thomas with 2 top 4 picks or whatever it was. All teams milked it, Haweks did too, purposely not playing guys like dutchy holland and playing roughead instead even though he was pretty useless for the first few seasons

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Re: Melbourne surely cant beat us
« Reply #50 on: April 02, 2012, 05:43:47 PM »
no if i had said tanking then the question is ambiguous.

Tanking by definition is to deliberately lose. It stems from boxing terminology to take a dive or more precisely to dive into the tank. A Tank being a term in the USA for a pool way back then. you could use use the term match fixing, but generally that is used when money is involved and tanking is used when draft picks are involved, again coming from the USA, but basically both refer to deliberately losing. The term tanking has also been used in politics in the USA , but still refers to candidates setting out to lose.

Many people who follow AFL refer to tanking as things like putting injured players in for surgery, trying players in different positions giving youngsters a game or two and playing bordeline players just so you have a last look at them before cutting, as tanking, but that is not what i am talking about

so the term tanking is ambiguous, as different people see it as having different reasons.

I deliberately have not used the term tanking in this particular discussion, for that reason.

I have only referred to deliberately losing games.

So the simple, unambiguous question remains, what year did Carlton deliberately lose games?

The year of the Kruezer cup and to be able to nail Judd by having the added draft pick, the year before that and the year before that.

Surely youre not suggesting that Melbourne tanked but carlton didnt?  Also ftr, collingwood took advantage of the system, its hilarious a side can play 2 GF's in a row and 2 years later land Pendles and Thomas with 2 top 4 picks or whatever it was. All teams milked it, Haweks did too, purposely not playing guys like dutchy holland and playing roughead instead even though he was pretty useless for the first few seasons

We are playing Post instead of McGuane. Surely we aren't tanking?  :lol

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Re: Melbourne surely cant beat us
« Reply #51 on: April 02, 2012, 06:29:02 PM »
no if i had said tanking then the question is ambiguous.

Tanking by definition is to deliberately lose. It stems from boxing terminology to take a dive or more precisely to dive into the tank. A Tank being a term in the USA for a pool way back then. you could use use the term match fixing, but generally that is used when money is involved and tanking is used when draft picks are involved, again coming from the USA, but basically both refer to deliberately losing. The term tanking has also been used in politics in the USA , but still refers to candidates setting out to lose.

Many people who follow AFL refer to tanking as things like putting injured players in for surgery, trying players in different positions giving youngsters a game or two and playing bordeline players just so you have a last look at them before cutting, as tanking, but that is not what i am talking about

so the term tanking is ambiguous, as different people see it as having different reasons.

I deliberately have not used the term tanking in this particular discussion, for that reason.

I have only referred to deliberately losing games.

So the simple, unambiguous question remains, what year did Carlton deliberately lose games?

The year of the Kruezer cup and to be able to nail Judd by having the added draft pick, the year before that and the year before that.

Surely youre not suggesting that Melbourne tanked but carlton didnt?  Also ftr, collingwood took advantage of the system, its hilarious a side can play 2 GF's in a row and 2 years later land Pendles and Thomas with 2 top 4 picks or whatever it was. All teams milked it, Haweks did too, purposely not playing guys like dutchy holland and playing roughead instead even though he was pretty useless for the first few seasons

I'm not suggesting anything, i asking a question FFS.
do my posts get translated into chinese and back into english or something?
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

Yahweh? or the great Clawski?

yaw rehto eht dellorcs ti fi daer ot reisae eb dluow tI

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Re: Melbourne surely cant beat us
« Reply #52 on: April 02, 2012, 06:39:39 PM »

I'm not suggesting anything, i asking a question FFS.
do my posts get translated into chinese and back into english or something?

translate.reference.com

English to Chinese:

我不建議任何東西,我要求一個問題是.做我員額得到翻譯成中文,再譯成英文或嗎?

Chinese to English:

I do not propose any raiment, that I have to ask a question, do I get additional Members interest, and interest in Chinese into English or?

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Re: Melbourne surely cant beat us
« Reply #53 on: April 02, 2012, 06:47:17 PM »
 :lol
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

Yahweh? or the great Clawski?

yaw rehto eht dellorcs ti fi daer ot reisae eb dluow tI

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Re: Melbourne surely cant beat us
« Reply #54 on: April 02, 2012, 07:11:22 PM »
 ;D

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Re: Melbourne surely cant beat us
« Reply #55 on: April 02, 2012, 07:18:39 PM »
no if i had said tanking then the question is ambiguous.

Tanking by definition is to deliberately lose. It stems from boxing terminology to take a dive or more precisely to dive into the tank. A Tank being a term in the USA for a pool way back then. you could use use the term match fixing, but generally that is used when money is involved and tanking is used when draft picks are involved, again coming from the USA, but basically both refer to deliberately losing. The term tanking has also been used in politics in the USA , but still refers to candidates setting out to lose.

Many people who follow AFL refer to tanking as things like putting injured players in for surgery, trying players in different positions giving youngsters a game or two and playing bordeline players just so you have a last look at them before cutting, as tanking, but that is not what i am talking about

so the term tanking is ambiguous, as different people see it as having different reasons.

I deliberately have not used the term tanking in this particular discussion, for that reason.

I have only referred to deliberately losing games.

So the simple, unambiguous question remains, what year did Carlton deliberately lose games?

The year of the Kruezer cup and to be able to nail Judd by having the added draft pick, the year before that and the year before that.

Surely youre not suggesting that Melbourne tanked but carlton didnt?  Also ftr, collingwood took advantage of the system, its hilarious a side can play 2 GF's in a row and 2 years later land Pendles and Thomas with 2 top 4 picks or whatever it was. All teams milked it, Haweks did too, purposely not playing guys like dutchy holland and playing roughead instead even though he was pretty useless for the first few seasons

I'm not suggesting anything, i asking a question FFS.
do my posts get translated into chinese and back into english or something?

fair enough, just looked like you were asking a loaded question

lmao dwaino  :lol

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Re: Melbourne surely cant beat us
« Reply #56 on: April 09, 2012, 01:16:33 PM »
Richo on 3aw said he'll commentate Saturday night footy next week in his undies if Richmond loses to Melbourne (we play Sat. arvo).

The media no doubt are going to build the pressure up on this game so they can go to town on the loser. 3aw are already saying season over (no finals) for the loser.

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Re: Melbourne surely cant beat us
« Reply #57 on: April 09, 2012, 01:21:51 PM »
sheesh how can our season be over already when we have had the draw from hell ....As kevin killer sheedy once said...no judgements should be made before round 7.

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Re: Melbourne surely cant beat us
« Reply #58 on: April 09, 2012, 01:35:04 PM »
Must win! No excuses!

If we lose this then we don't deserve to play finals.. We have put in decent performances against the blooze and pies and if we lose this game I will find it very hard to smile again this season.
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« Reply #59 on: April 09, 2012, 05:59:43 PM »
sheesh how can our season be over already when we have had the draw from hell ....As kevin killer sheedy once said...no judgements should be made before round 7.

 I actually agree if we lose next week then its all she wrote for season 2012.