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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Big Papa Bear on August 18, 2012, 08:02:47 PM
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Rather than :banghead - thought it maybe time to think positively about what we actually need or the type of player. :gotigers :cheers
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Players who can kick and handball well under pressure
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Get Cloke
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5 things we need
1. Neil Balme out Cameron FFS
The decision to sign Jackson, Graham & Edwards pre season was arguably the most pathetic thing the club has done in 30 years.
2. 1 A grade midfielder. Above 185 preferably. Bastinac type :banghead :banghead. We have 2 top 10 picks of later and whilst i think Conca and Morris have upside i think we need a stronger body in the middle
3. 1 Solid Defender. Chaplan
4. 1 Big Forward. Should aim for Cloke but no one with balls at the RFC so we will probably end up with Russell and try him in the F 50 alongside the "rejuvenated" Mcguane
5. 1 Small to give King a chop out as Edwards and Nahas are pathetic against quality opposition.
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I'd rather have the bloke from Norf who is giving Cloke a bath at the moment
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5 things we need
1. Neil Balme out Cameron FFS
The decision to sign Jackson, Graham & Edwards pre season was arguably the most pathetic thing the club has done in 30 years.
2. 1 A grade midfielder. Above 185 preferably. Bastinac type :banghead :banghead. We have 2 top 10 picks of later and whilst i think Conca and Morris have upside i think we need a stronger body in the middle
3. 1 Solid Defender. Chaplan
4. 1 Big Forward. Should aim for Cloke but no one with balls at the RFC so we will probably end up with Russell and try him in the F 50 alongside the "rejuvenated" Mcguane
5. 1 Small to give King a chop out as Edwards and Nahas are pathetic against quality opposition.
Neil balme, like hed make a world of difference, what for , relief ruck :lol
Under camerons watch we have created a recruiting network that has seen us make giant strides, as the director he is accountable for that
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5 things we need
1. Neil Balme out Cameron FFS
The decision to sign Jackson, Graham & Edwards pre season was arguably the most pathetic thing the club has done in 30 years.
2. 1 A grade midfielder. Above 185 preferably. Bastinac type :banghead :banghead. We have 2 top 10 picks of later and whilst i think Conca and Morris have upside i think we need a stronger body in the middle
3. 1 Solid Defender. Chaplan
4. 1 Big Forward. Should aim for Cloke but no one with balls at the RFC so we will probably end up with Russell and try him in the F 50 alongside the "rejuvenated" Mcguane
5. 1 Small to give King a chop out as Edwards and Nahas are pathetic against quality opposition.
We only have 1 top 10 pick ATM Dan
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Get Cloke
Cloke has been pee poor tonight and for most of the season exc against GWS.
Vickery will come good, let's use the 800- 1mil and buy 2 awesome mids
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Get Cloke
Cloke has been pee poor tonight and for most of the season exc against GWS.
Vickery will come good, let's use the 800- 1mil and buy 2 awesome mids
Agreed
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Cloke was poor tonight but he's got Donkey Dawes trying to play forward with him. Cloke and Riewoldt would be a nightmare for opposition coaches.
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Cloke was poor tonight but he's got Donkey Dawes trying to play forward with him. Cloke and Riewoldt would be a nightmare for opposition coaches.
No just a nightmare for our coach because they'll be aiming and pointing at everyone including themselves.
Agreed we need another good key fwd but not at his price $800k plus??
Recruiters need to identify someone ready to make a name for themselves and burst out of the shadows that's what they're paid for.
As I said before what could $800-1 mil get us in midfielders? 2 top notch? 3 good b graders??
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5 things we need
1. Neil Balme out Cameron FFS
The decision to sign Jackson, Graham & Edwards pre season was arguably the most pathetic thing the club has done in 30 years.
2. 1 A grade midfielder. Above 185 preferably. Bastinac type :banghead :banghead. We have 2 top 10 picks of later and whilst i think Conca and Morris have upside i think we need a stronger body in the middle
3. 1 Solid Defender. Chaplan
4. 1 Big Forward. Should aim for Cloke but no one with balls at the RFC so we will probably end up with Russell and try him in the F 50 alongside the "rejuvenated" Mcguane
5. 1 Small to give King a chop out as Edwards and Nahas are pathetic against quality opposition.
Neil balme, like hed make a world of difference, what for , relief ruck :lol
Under camerons watch we have created a recruiting network that has seen us make giant strides, as the director he is accountable for that
Giant strides?
You are joking aren't you?
Balme has been part of one of the most successful clubs in decades yet he wouldn't do much
Yeah Jackson 2 year extension February
Edwards see above
Gus last year extended contract
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a coach who can beat the press
how on earth on subiaco couldnt those morons find and create space
:wallywink :wallywink :wallywink :wallywink :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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1. Big bodied defender Chaplain it seems is coming.
2. A couple of hard nosed midfielders.
3. Strong big bodied lead up forward.
4. Small highly skilled forward.
5. Captain with inspiration.
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We need big blokes only and hopefully foley can put in a full season
He was the turning point of the season
His absence messed up our rotations plus he tackles not like the
Houlis
Newman
Griggs
Edwards
White
Etc
Big men a must
Griffo needs to be looked at because he's to soft
Post is very weak also
Dylan grimes is a star but his hankie strings have been an issue
I'm still not panicking I have faith in the coaching staff that we are heading upwards but they have to start wielding the axe starting from the non existent captano custard
Otherwise Dimmer needs to go
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Griffo needs to be looked at because he's to soft
Cotchin had 2 years of being "soft" as you put it give the kid a break
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Jay Schulz. Said he wants to play finals
Either that or come home Clokey :thumbsup ;D
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1. Big bodied defender Chaplain it seems is coming.
2. A couple of hard nosed midfielders.
3. Strong big bodied lead up forward.
4. Small highly skilled forward.
5. Captain with inspiration.
Could not agree more. :thumbsup
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In no particular order
- Half Forward to back up if Vickery gets injured
- Half back
- Tough Inside mid because we won't get 22 games out of Foley next year with his injury profile and age.
- Highly skilled kick out of defense
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Said it for two years now...
BIG BODIED BACKMEN
Start with Merritt!!
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Hopefully Vickery will have an injury-free year next year so we have another tall stuff relief. He was clearly hampered by injury all year until he had his surgery.
We need:
- Big backman to take on power forwards. Rance fights manfully and Grimes has shown a lot in his short career so far, but they each need another inch or so in height.
- Big MF'ing power forward to smash packs and slap around opposition key defenders. Jack does it solo and he's not a power forward, never will be. Too lean.
- Midfield depth - we already have some stars so a couple more competent/hard midfielders would add much needed depth. Was really hoping RFC would chase Dayne Beams hard.
Guys like Jackson, Edwards, Nahas, White etc are certainly players I would keep. They're not expensive and they do compete.
Jackson will never go soft in a 1VS1 and despite his leg speed/skill he is fit to run all game and we need the hardness he and Tuck give the side.
Edwards shows a lot of skill and his higher weight this year has helped him to lay more tackles, but he lets himself down with poor disposal at times in spite of his apparent ability.
Nahas hits the scoreboard but I'd like to see him put on a few more KG so he doesn't get thrown around so easily.
White isn't great but always has a go. He's a Richmond fan and will always try for the club at least.
And if we have to lose a ruckman from our stocks I'd probably lose A Brown rather than Gus or Derickx. Derickx has only had two years with RFC and one was stuffed by injury. Still a bit early to judge. And if it comes down to a choice between Brown and Gus I'd keep Gus simply because he's got a bigger/more mature body. Neither Gus nor Brown ever look comfortable when disposing the ball the way Maric does.
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we have needs in most areas. we all acknowledge the depth problems we have. that depth is lacking forward back and midfield.
its a real good draft for mids so lets target midfield as an area we must fix would also be looking to fix the defense.
we need to use 3 nd picks on 18 - 20 yo mids. picks 10, 30, 50 or similar.. to go with those 3 kids i would be looking for two mature mids as well maloney psd and sundberg/dwyer or both as rookies. thats 5 or 6 mids in one go with not only quality picks used on hopefully quality kids but older guys ready to make an immediate impact and improve our depth straight away.
the other priority would be GENUINE tall defenders.
Would like one in the nd tanner smith perhaps. would like to get chaplin in free agency or a similar type to him as far as size goes.
would take tom lee nd and perhaps rookie a bloke like kyle hartigan from state leagues.
thats 4 talls one 18yo a 21 a 23yo and a 26yo. three of them capable of playing straight away.
also it seems its likely we will cut two ruckmen would be looking to at least rookie one.
finally would like to find a way to trade into some picks below 50 to give ourselves an opportunity to get a crack at someone like max duffy.
with astbury, griffiths elton and vickery i would not be bothered if we didnt get a tall forward this yr all these blokes have been taken with decent picks you would really hope that two of them will cut it. if at the end of next yr none have come along we may well have to go to the well again. a player like tom lee could help in this area as he can play both ends.
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1. Big bodied defender
2. Inside midfielders
3. Back up ruckman
4. Small highly skilled forward.
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Why do we need a big bodied defender? Rance, post, griffiths and astbury weigh between 95 and 100kg. I'd rather they put on 3kg each instead of getting chaplain
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I tend to agree with you madtiger.However i think chaplain might be insurance just in case Grimesy has ongoing problems with hammys
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Why do we need a big bodied defender? Rance, post, griffiths and astbury weigh between 95 and 100kg. I'd rather they put on 3kg each instead of getting chaplain
Only Griff is over 95kg the rest are all 93kg or less.
Griff at 198cm and 99kg should be our monster backman but...
Chaplin at 195 and 110kg certainly could be used while Griff is still injury prone.
and let's not forget he still 20 years old
:thumbsup
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Why do we need a big bodied defender? Rance, post, griffiths and astbury weigh between 95 and 100kg. I'd rather they put on 3kg each instead of getting chaplain
Only Griff is over 95kg the rest are all 93kg or less.
Griff at 198cm and 99kg should be our monster backman but...
Chaplin at 195 and 110kg certainly could be used while Griff is still injury prone.
and let's not forget he still 20 years old
:thumbsup
In what world is Chaplin 110 kilo? With that weight he lost over pre-season he would be 95k tops I reckon.
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Why do we need a big bodied defender? Rance, post, griffiths and astbury weigh between 95 and 100kg. I'd rather they put on 3kg each instead of getting chaplain
take the blinkers off madone and you will see a real need for kpds on the list.
rance was horrible again this week and is suspect one on one.
if i listen to most posters on most sites post is a dud not my opinion by the way.
griffiths has not shown hes a backman imo hes not. he is being wasted down back and should be developed at ff.
same goes for astbury is a hit up hf dont see him as a kpd at all. if anything these two have been underwhelming with only youth and injury being their saving grace to date. you could not in all fairness call any of post, astbury or griffiths established players they may never be.
would much rather be going into next season with a list of
tall backs
rance, chaplin, lee, grimes, post, tanner smith nd, and a rookie like kyle hartigan as our tall options.
our tall forward options should be
riewoldt, elton, astbury, griffiths, lee, with vickery being the ruck/for. far far better depth and flexability. we should be developing forwards and shoring up the backhalf with genuine defenders.
as far as im concerned those numbers are spot on for tall forwards and defenders.
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Why do we need a big bodied defender? Rance, post, griffiths and astbury weigh between 95 and 100kg. I'd rather they put on 3kg each instead of getting chaplain
Only Griff is over 95kg the rest are all 93kg or less.
Griff at 198cm and 99kg should be our monster backman but...
Chaplin at 195 and 110kg certainly could be used while Griff is still injury prone.
and let's not forget he still 20 years old
:thumbsup
In what world is Chaplin 110 kilo? With that weight he lost over pre-season he would be 95k tops I reckon.
not 110 but 100kg. hes been listed at or near that weight for at least 5 seasons id say.
unlike what some think here he has taken on and beaten big kpfs in one on ones.
i happen to like ports set up down back.
carlisle 192/101
chaplin 195/100
trengove 197/97
the last couple of seasons trengove has been given the kp role as part of his development and chaplin has become the third tall if you like.
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They've all been poo this year, especially Trengove
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Why do we need a big bodied defender? Rance, post, griffiths and astbury weigh between 95 and 100kg. I'd rather they put on 3kg each instead of getting chaplain
Only Griff is over 95kg the rest are all 93kg or less.
Griff at 198cm and 99kg should be our monster backman but...
Chaplin at 195 and 110kg certainly could be used while Griff is still injury prone.
and let's not forget he still 20 years old
:thumbsup
In what world is Chaplin 110 kilo? With that weight he lost over pre-season he would be 95k tops I reckon.
Sorry 100kg.
Should have known it would have been my funny old mate that would pick up the typo. :lol
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Why do we need a big bodied defender? Rance, post, griffiths and astbury weigh between 95 and 100kg. I'd rather they put on 3kg each instead of getting chaplain
Only Griff is over 95kg the rest are all 93kg or less.
Griff at 198cm and 99kg should be our monster backman but...
Chaplin at 195 and 110kg certainly could be used while Griff is still injury prone.
and let's not forget he still 20 years old
:thumbsup
In what world is Chaplin 110 kilo? With that weight he lost over pre-season he would be 95k tops I reckon.
Sorry 100kg.
Should have known it would have been my funny old mate that would pick up the typo. :lol
We're so funny :lol
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5 things we need
1. Neil Balme out Cameron FFS
The decision to sign Jackson, Graham & Edwards pre season was arguably the most pathetic thing the club has done in 30 years.
2. 1 A grade midfielder. Above 185 preferably. Bastinac type :banghead :banghead. We have 2 top 10 picks of later and whilst i think Conca and Morris have upside i think we need a stronger body in the middle
3. 1 Solid Defender. Chaplan
4. 1 Big Forward. Should aim for Cloke but no one with balls at the RFC so we will probably end up with Russell and try him in the F 50 alongside the "rejuvenated" Mcguane
5. 1 Small to give King a chop out as Edwards and Nahas are pathetic against quality opposition.
Neil balme, like hed make a world of difference, what for , relief ruck :lol
Under camerons watch we have created a recruiting network that has seen us make giant strides, as the director he is accountable for that
Giant strides?
You are joking aren't you?
Balme has been part of one of the most successful clubs in decades yet he wouldn't do much
Yeah Jackson 2 year extension February
Edwards see above
Gus last year extended contract
He s been in right place at right time, collingwood couldnt get rid of him soon enough through the tarrant escapades, pre premiership days....lomg bow attributing cats success to balme whos effectively the welfare officer,mwhat next poach their proprty steward :lol
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Blokes that want to play footy at the top level
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Blokes that want to play footy at the top level
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