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Football => View from the Outer => Topic started by: Francois Jackson on September 10, 2012, 12:28:19 PM
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Anyone have any info on this
Apparently a player is dead fell off a balcony
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??? What club?
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??? What club?
Interstate club apparently
Just heard it on Radio
no idea of details
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pete mcdonald @petemac9
Reports John McCarthy has had a serious accident in las Vegas. More to come
AN AFL footballer has died in an incident in Las Vegas.
The man was holidaying in the gambling mecca, according to sporting sources, when he is believed to have been found dead within the last 12 hours.
Victorian authorities are trying to reach family to inform them of the tragedy.
Players of his club are also understood to have been called together for a briefing on the incident.
This is sad sad news. He could have been in a Richmond jumper this year. Condolences to the McCarthy family.
:(
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apparantly a port player.
SEN said its an ex victorian
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/australian-sportsman-in-serious-incident-in-las-vegas/story-e6frf7jo-1226470914423
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Is it officially JMac? Triple M just reported it but wouldn't release the name or speculate.
Condolences anyway to the family. Too young and too tragic.
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Is it officially JMac? Triple M just reported it but wouldn't release the name or speculate.
Condolences anyway to the family. Too young and too tragic.
Twitter and BigFooty saying its Jmac.
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HUN are saying it is a Port player.
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Just trying to find out who it was, gee this is no good...
Condolences to all related.
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Off BF:
Johnny Mac fell off a balcony to his death. This is horrible. I'm freaking out.
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is that the ex- pies player?
geez thats a shock.
lets hope it isnt true for his friends
and family.
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Terrible news.
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is that the ex- pies player?
geez thats a shock.
lets hope it isnt true for his friends
and family.
Yeah it is, the guy that was going to come to us before Port pounced.
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port have released a statement confirming, but not releasing the name.
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oh dear falling off a balcony (if true)
is not good, just as my next door
neighbour did and fell to his death.
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Only 22 :(
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Horrible news. Player is rumoured to be McCarthy who was supposed to come to Richmond.
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waste what a waste...
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Tragic
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Just horrendous news :(. Condolences to his family.
Club statement: http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6038/newsid/147307/default.aspx
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condolences to the family, just tragic
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It seems that sportnews first are the ones who reported in is mccarthy.
Despite their artcile saying
"At this point, the club is unable to confirm the identity of the player involved in this tragedy as family members are still being informed"
they have named him, with no thought of these family members that have not been informed, not to mention if it wasnt mccarthy.
The website sprouts so much crap that i didnt think my opinion of them could get any lower, but they have just lowered the bar even further.
what a discraceful poor excuse for a media organistaion they are.
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his name should be removed from this forum until it is confirmed
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LAW$UIT
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his name should be removed from this forum until it is confirmed
worse than the C word,imo...
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Condolences to the family and friends. Very sad day indeed.
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Terrible thing to happen and just 22.
Just feel for his family and friends.
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SNF and Nova released his name publicly:
PORT Adelaide have confirmed that one of their players - believed to be John McCarthy - has died in an incident in Las Vegas.
http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2012/09/10/afl-player-dies-in-las-vegas-reports/
Poor parents on their way to Vegas.
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Tragic :( I remember seeing my old man fall off a decent size balcony when I was a kid. Luckily he landed feet first and escaped with a broken leg.
RIP John. Feel really sorry for his family and his girl friend who moved over to SA with him :(
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Life's so precious and can be taken so quickly :-(
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Terrible news :( Condolences to his friends and family.
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Condolences to the family, crap way to go out. wasn't the old pool diving trick gone wrong was it? Done that a few drunken nights myself in foriegn ports...
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Just confirmed by Port Adelaide it is John McCarthy who died :(
Official statement: http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6038/newsid/147336/default.aspx
RIP
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I don't want to speculate but this scenario doesn't suggest an accident. Neither does it reflect foul play.
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I don't want to speculate but this scenario doesn't suggest an accident. Neither does it reflect foul play.
Sounds like you're speculating to me
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Never good news to hear.
Tragic event. Thoughts with the McCartny family and all involved.
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I don't want to speculate but this scenario doesn't suggest an accident. Neither does it reflect foul play.
You are a s hit human being
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I don't want to speculate but this scenario doesn't suggest an accident. Neither does it reflect foul play.
You are a s hit human being
WTF......where does this come from >:( The news broadcasts are saying openly that it is a mystery.
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I don't want to speculate but this scenario doesn't suggest an accident. Neither does it reflect foul play.
Sounds like you're speculating to me
Yeah, I was thinking out loud and probably could have left my fingers in my pockets. I have a different view on these matters and to the uninitiated like Damo it may seem callous - that's not my intention. To me it is just a transition. And truth at this point is very important.......but also none of my business in this curcumstance.
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what is it about the incident that suggests its not an accident?
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what is it about the incident that suggests its not an accident?
At the risk of bringing on the hounds I'd suggest that the fact that he was alone and the time it occurred - at dawn. I'm not casting aspersions on him no matter what occurred. I'm just looking at it clinically. That's it on the subject for me.
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its also been reported that they were not staying at that hotel
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I don't want to speculate but this scenario doesn't suggest an accident. Neither does it reflect foul play.
Sounds like you're speculating to me
Yeah, I was thinking out loud and probably could have left my fingers in my pockets. I have a different view on these matters and to the uninitiated like Damo it may seem callous - that's not my intention. To me it is just a transition. And truth at this point is very important.......but also none of my business in this curcumstance.
don't worry about it mate.
All good.
I wasn't offended by what u said.
People r full of poo.
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I don't want to speculate but this scenario doesn't suggest an accident. Neither does it reflect foul play.
Sounds like you're speculating to me
Yeah, I was thinking out loud and probably could have left my fingers in my pockets. I have a different view on these matters and to the uninitiated like Damo it may seem callous - that's not my intention. To me it is just a transition. And truth at this point is very important.......but also none of my business in this curcumstance.
don't worry about it mate.
All good.
I wasn't offended by what u said.
People r full of poo.
Thanks mate
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Firstly,
Condolences to Johns parents, family and friends
I was very saddened to hear this news
he was too young to lose his life and this is a terrible tradegy
Secondly,
I cant but feel peeed off about this too
Now I know people might take some swipes at me, but idgaf
This pre season John was invited to train with us.
From what im led to believe he wanted to play with us,
we wanted him to play for us and POOrt had to take him despite
them knowing full well what we intended and probably discussed with them.
Had he not gone there who knows what wouldve happened?? may still be alive but thats the thing with life you never know whats around the corner.
Really sad news and wish it didnt happen :(
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I know I said that I wouldn't be commenting further but as Al correctly stated we now know that it wasn't his Hotel balcony that he fell from and there are witnesses (no team-mates). That changes everything.
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Firstly,
Condolences to Johns parents, family and friends
I was very saddened to hear this news
he was too young to lose his life and this is a terrible tradegy
Secondly,
I cant but feel peeed off about this too
Now I know people might take some swipes at me, but idgaf
This pre season John was invited to train with us.
From what im led to believe he wanted to play with us,
we wanted him to play for us and POOrt had to take him despite
them knowing full well what we intended and probably discussed with them.
Had he not gone there who knows what wouldve happened?? may still be alive but thats the thing with life you never know whats around the corner.
Really sad news and wish it didnt happen :(
sliding doors scenario EEA. Spot on!! However it happened and in what capacity his life was taken too short.
Ruanaidh i understood what you meant pal :thumbsup
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Firstly,
Condolences to Johns parents, family and friends
I was very saddened to hear this news
he was too young to lose his life and this is a terrible tradegy
Secondly,
I cant but feel peeed off about this too
Now I know people might take some swipes at me, but idgaf
This pre season John was invited to train with us.
From what im led to believe he wanted to play with us,
we wanted him to play for us and POOrt had to take him despite
them knowing full well what we intended and probably discussed with them.
Had he not gone there who knows what wouldve happened?? may still be alive but thats the thing with life you never know whats around the corner.
Really sad news and wish it didnt happen :(
sliding doors scenario EEA. Spot on!! However it happened and in what capacity his life was taken too short.
Ruanaidh i understood what you meant pal :thumbsup
First and foremost RIP John McCarthy God Bless his soul.
Secondly my heart goes out to the family and friends that are left behind to deal with this tragedy.
Thirdly his teammates travelling with him and the Port Adelaide Footy Club.
Fourthly in relation to EEA'S comments yes I know but if this was his destiny to die young whose to say that had he chosen the RFC ahead of Port we may have been sitting here on this site mourning the loss of one of our own players. Whatever has hapenned cannot be changed
as Daniel 161 mentioned sliding doors scenario. Who was to know do any of us know what will happen in 12 months time in our lives. Cannot blame anyone.
Rest in peace John.
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I know tucker, I suppose like I said I'm saddened and shocked by this and yeah just peed off the young fella is gone now.
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I know full well what you meant.
You werent speculating at all, but you were just speculating that he jumped/committed suicide.
Terrible thing to say
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I know full well what you meant.
You werent speculating at all, but you were just speculating that he jumped/committed suicide.
Terrible thing to say
I don't think it was a terrible thing to say, it was just prefaced incorrectly.
Suicide should not be a taboo subject. Open discussion on the topic reveals things that we don't like about ourselves as humans, which I think is why some people respond so emotively to it.
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I don't think it was a terrible thing to say, it was just prefaced incorrectly.
Suicide should not be a taboo subject. Open discussion on the topic reveals things that we don't like about ourselves as humans, which I think is why some people respond so emotively to it.
Fair point.
Well said.
I just thought far too soon and a bad thing to be speculating about.
I will leave it at that now.
Cheers DCrane
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yep.
As someone who immediately thought the same thing,due to the speculative nature of ww media.i fully understand the statement and take more offense from the ideology of berating one for saying such.
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I know full well what you meant.
You werent speculating at all, but you were just speculating that he jumped/committed suicide.
Terrible thing to say
I don't think it was a terrible thing to say, it was just prefaced incorrectly.
Suicide should not be a taboo subject. Open discussion on the topic reveals things that we don't like about ourselves as humans, which I think is why some people respond so emotively to it.
Yeah, good point.
The idea he may have jumped definitely crossed my mind, and I'm sure plenty of others as well.
The first night of an overseas trip would be a strange situation for that to happen in though.
Alcohol related misadventure is more often than not the case in these sort of things.
Yesterday was world suicide prevention day too......
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I don't want to play into speculation but suicide crossed my mind too. Though last night they said he was found in the driveway, but this morning on the radio they said he fell nine meters from a service structure? Still don't know why he was at a different hotel on his own, but may have just been a misadventure after all. Maybe the truth will come out. Maybe it won't, but I don't want to disrespect any parties involved.
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RIP John. Tragic that someone so young with so much to give has passed away. Last thing I remember is him playing a decent game against us with that terrible boy band haircut of his. As with all players who leave the Pies I was hoping for him to make a big impact at Port next year and make Collingwood regret their decision in delisting him but sadly this is not to be.
On another note, If you take a look at this pic, it is clear that the Flamingo has no balcony's. The coroner did mention a service structure with tall Palm trees outside it, so could he have climbed on top of the building on the right? It appears to be a multi level car park with a driveway below so access to the roof would have been pretty easy.
(http://i48.tinypic.com/34zhwr5.jpg)
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On another note, If you take a look at this pic, it is clear that the Flamingo has no balcony's. The coroner did mention a service structure with tall Palm trees outside it, so could he have climbed on top of the building on the right? It appears to be a multi level car park with a driveway below so access to the roof would have been pretty easy.
(http://i48.tinypic.com/34zhwr5.jpg)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/port-adelaide-football-star-john-mccarthy-seen-on-cctv-before-plunging-to-death-from-a-roof-at-flamingo-hotel-in-las-vegas/story-e6frf7jo-1226470914423
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On another note, If you take a look at this pic, it is clear that the Flamingo has no balcony's. The coroner did mention a service structure with tall Palm trees outside it, so could he have climbed on top of the building on the right? It appears to be a multi level car park with a driveway below so access to the roof would have been pretty easy.
(http://i48.tinypic.com/34zhwr5.jpg)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/port-adelaide-football-star-john-mccarthy-seen-on-cctv-before-plunging-to-death-from-a-roof-at-flamingo-hotel-in-las-vegas/story-e6frf7jo-1226470914423
Thanks for the update froars. :thumbsup
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Being in Vegas, end of season trip, someone else's hotel, pretty early in the morning. I reckon it's more likely a "good" scenario than suicide. Obviously just speculation
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That 'roof' part is 3 storeys high.
(http://nevadablogging.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Flamingo-Las-Vegas.jpg)
The newses on the radio were saying this morning the local police there don't believe they can find any CCTV of what exactly happened.
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Triple M just reported that apparently he had a fight with the missus or something and that he wanted to come home. :-\
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what, did shazza from broady ring up and tell 'em that?
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If Shazza from Broady is the PAFC then yeah, sure.
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you could be onto something there dwaino :P
is this something port have released or just given MMM the scoop?
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It's pretty noisy at work in between the crappy little pink radio with a broken speaker, the compressors, overhead cranes and the oven with the dodgy bearing so I only came in half way through. They mentioned something about PAFC are aware of a tear (sounded like tear) between John and his girlfriend moments (or something) before he was scene on the CCTV footage. They said he was upset and wanted to come home. Then they went to a lady who was either a representative or an actual member of the LVPD who said they were looking at CCTV footage, but there may be no actual footage of the final moment.
That's what I could ascertain anyway. I'm not sure where they got their info, but the blokes on MMM during the day here are pretty good and treated the news yesterday with respect an to the letter of the law and didn't give into any of the speculation. They probably said at the start of the news but I missed it.
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cheers dawino
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Distressed AFL footballer John McCarthy told his girlfriend he wanted to return home just hours before falling to his death at a Las Vegas hotel.
McCarthy told his girlfriend he was heading to the airport after becoming separated from his Port Adelaide teammates on an end-of-season trip to the US.
About two hours before his death, McCarthy telephoned his girlfriend Dani Smarrelli in Adelaide, sounding confused and saying he wanted to return home, Smarrelli has told Port officials.
She said she was unsuccessful in trying to contact the other Port players after McCarthy's call.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/national/14814955/mccarthy-distressed-in-phone-call/
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Cheers al. I was starting to get paranoid I stuffed it up lol.
But maybe they said 'teary' as in upset, rather than a tear as in argument or something. I may have misheard. :cheers
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yeah, it doesnt sound he had a barny with the missus, but something was afoot.
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looking more and more like he lunged at the palm tree and missed, according to freddie mcguire
some have seen the CCTV footage
Another fatal accident, so many lately like that jet ski incident in Hawaii
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Heard that this morning too, Daniel. So may just be misadventure after all. Poor bloke :-[
But I guess the next question now is, what was he doing in that closed off part and why couldn't he get out the same way he came in?
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Heard that this morning too, Daniel. So may just be misadventure after all. Poor bloke :-[
But I guess the next question now is, what was he doing in that closed off part and why couldn't he get out the same way he came in?
Maybe he went through a fire door and it closed on him?
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CCTV reveals AFL footballer John McCarthy aimed for palm tree in roof jump:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/cctv-reveals-afl-footballer-john-mccarthy-aimed-for-palm-tree-in-roof-jump-as-deeply-shocked-port-adelaide-players-arrive-home-after-teammates-tragic-death-in-las-vegas/story-e6frf7jo-1226470914423
The reason why he was disorientated and confused is still unanswered. That's what they are blaming for him entering through a side door into the closed off part and why he tried to aim for the Palm tree from the roof. Was he disorientated due to personal/health problems or could what he had been drinking earlier been spiked? Still too many unknowns.
However the accident happened, it's just a tragic loss of a young life.
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Tragic accident, afl (fit ppl) are not used to getting smashed was having fun got lost thought he was "superman" which I would say most of us have done at some stage and were just lucky? Unfortunately he wasn't, really sad
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Read that autopsy has been done, but the toxicity results will take 8-12 weeks
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Read that autopsy has been done, but the toxicity results will take 8-12 weeks
Read that too
Also read that the report will be released to his family and it will be up to them whether they release the details
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Read that autopsy has been done, but the toxicity results will take 8-12 weeks
Read that too
Also read that the report will be released to his family and it will be up to them whether they release the details
Just read that too haha
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if they find something that would indicate say a drink spike, thus a possible crime, I wonder if they would release it then?
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if they find something that would indicate say a drink spike, thus a possible crime, I wonder if they would release it then?
Can of worms..
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Hey- don't let facts get in the way of a good story,guys.
Had he not acted like a stuffwit he would still be here.
U can all say its tragic and brood about the fact u don't know him but at the end of the day,
the most important message to kids is,don't act like a stuffwit when ur drunk.
Spare me ur idealist retorts.
Fact.
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would have to agree with you Ox.
i did something really stupid crap whilst on the booze, so it could happen to any number of people
hopefully kids understand they aren't invincible
On a side note and totally meaningless for some but Pies and Sorrento scored the exact same score in their respective wins yesterday. Same score in the game against Pies earlier this year
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Disclaimer: no disrespect intended.
It really ticked me off with how Collingwood carried on with this on the weekend. Last week on 360 when they were talking to Luke Ball at the MVP awards he said he personally wasn't close to McCarthy and there were only about 6 or 7 who were still close to him. Before the game on the Fox broadcast on the bottom if the screen it said something like 'Collingwood playing for Fallen teammate.' then they all touch the banner. All but two images in the montage show McCarthy in a Pies jumper. Pendelbury last week carried on how courageous and amazing McCarthy was. Anyone watching and unfamiliar they wouldn't think he was a Port Adelaide player an played more games there. If he was so amazing and valuable at Collingwood then why didn't they give him more than 18 games in 4 years. Get your hand off it Collingwood.
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Disclaimer: no disrespect intended.
It really ticked me off with how Collingwood carried on with this on the weekend. Last week on 360 when they were talking to Luke Ball at the MVP awards he said he personally wasn't close to McCarthy and there were only about 6 or 7 who were still close to him. Before the game on the Fox broadcast on the bottom if the screen it said something like 'Collingwood playing for Fallen teammate.' then they all touch the banner. All but two images in the montage show McCarthy in a Pies jumper. Pendelbury last week carried on how courageous and amazing McCarthy was. Anyone watching and unfamiliar they wouldn't think he was a Port Adelaide player an played more games there. If he was so amazing and valuable at Collingwood then why didn't they give him more than 18 games in 4 years. Get your hand off it Collingwood.
I agree dwaino. I wonder if the Collingwood club and its players would have grieved so openly if the circumstances of his death were more clear cut and far less glamorous like a drug overdose or he drove drunk and killed himself as well as a another innocent party? I bet They'd be saying behind doors, "Lets keep our distance from this and let Port deal with it."
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Agreed. Everyone is twice the human they were once they die. All their impacts on society are forgotten and their very average lives are reflected upon as unique and brilliant out of fear of offnding someone of who is running with the rest of the herd.
Reality is 99.5% of us lead lives that 99.99% of everyone else ultimately dont give two shakes of poo about.
If you love and cherish someone that much, tell them when you are both alive or shut the eff up
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Hey- don't let facts get in the way of a good story,guys.
Had he not acted like a stuffwit he would still be here.
U can all say its tragic and brood about the fact u don't know him but at the end of the day,
the most important message to kids is,don't act like a stuffwit when ur drunk.
Spare me ur idealist retorts.
Fact.
Spot on. I used this tragedy as a 'teaching moment' for my two boys. The only disclaimer would be if his drink was 'spiked', but even then there is a lesson to be learnt.